Well, I doubt he will go to a county lockup. I think the Feds have minimum security prisons. I'm sure he will go there.
Also, I would imagine the prisoners are responsible for cleaning their own cells. Most of them probably don't care. If one guy did, his cell would be clean, I'm sure. I don't see why they would keep cheap cleaning products from prisoners (well, maybe used as weapons), it would keep them from revolting and it is easier to guard busy people.
People who blindly want to criminalize "drugs" (really medical technology) should be poisoned by "religious extremists" until they come down with a medical condition (like I was), then they should be denied access to medical care (even if you can afford to pay cash, like I was), until the condition becomes so bad they now have a serious uncurable conditions (such as kindey failure and strokes, like I have), then they can join in the "fun" of dealing with the controlled medical system.
Why should I have to go to the trouble of arranging for prescrptions and such? There is no reasonable reason whatsoever to require prescriptions for a lot of medications and medical technology. Why for blood pressure medications, dialysis solution (steralized sugarfied salt water), eyeglasses, epogen, acid reducers (ranitidyne--now OTC--and prevacid), and so on. None of those are even addictive. The only one of those which could be abused is epo, but if some athlete dies because he wants to cheat, who cares? Fuck him.
One time I had to go for almost a week without blood pressure medication (which you are not supposed to stop at all) because the doctor was too busy, then there was a 3 day weekend on top of it.
Also I have difficulty getting to the pharmacy, and their mail system sucks. With the prescription system even trying out different mail order pharmacy would take a month or two to switch, and if they suck too, it's another month somewhere else. I could possibly be without essential medication (my blood pressure goes dangerously high) for a couple months looking for a mail order pharmacy that works, and I could not just magically find transport and go down to the origional pharmacy because they wouldn't have my prescription anymore.
I don't fucking care if some stupid junkies get shot up, overdose, or go fuck themselves. As for crimes they do, plenty of other people commit crimes for other reasons. So, what are you saying? Should we take away money, so those who don't work get the same things as those who do? Somebody already tried that, ask a Russian if they want to bring communism back. I bet most of them will not only say no, but they will beat the fuck out of you just for suggesting it.
Medical technologies should be avaliable to anyone who needs them.
You can do better than that. Install OpenBSD on one computer. Find a bunch of old terminals out of some junk heap and hook them up to the computer. Sell all the other computers on Ebay. Make them use the terminals while you stare at the logs all day. See them hack it now, mofos!
That sounds like an organized crime problem to me. Similar with alcohol in the prohibition era of the US. Last time I checked, the US didn't have organized crime lords smuggling booze anymore.
Shutting down the government is not acting on the will of the people
How can you be so sure about that? It will not always be true. Maybe this bill wasn't serious enough--though "redistricting" can be a tool for those in power to manipulate the voting system. What if congress or the president was about to sign a law/order requiring all non-politicans be made into slave labor?
This is true, but what about just recording unique IPs and timestamp(s)? Just one timestamp per second. How many different servers / peers do users connect to per hour? Probably not many.
You don't understand. One of the Nielsen execs had sex with a Wii. With the box shouting "Wii! Wii! Wii!" throughout the entire time, the guy couldn't help but remember its name. In the meeting, he said "I can't remember where, but I heard about some Wii game thing. What's this Wii thing I keep hearing about? We got to do something with it!"
Since all execs can only remember two things at a time, the Xbox fell out his brain, leaving only the PS3 and Wii. Corporate drones must follow. There you have it.
Either that, or M$ $uxx0rs!!! Yahhh!!! Maybe MS "alien probed" the company one too many times.;-P
shift the focus from producing something good or innovative to focusing on producing things that were popular in the past
Umm...how do they not do this now? I have seen very few innovative games recently. Many seem to be remakes of movies, or FPS, or RPGs, and such. Where are these great games? Animal Crossing is the best, most original one I've seen for a long time, and it isn't so spectacular.
My parents did the ratings bit a few months ago. They still do the diary. I'm sure it is much the same since the 1980s, but they may have added the page for VCR/DVR recordings since then...
Actually, it probably is a good idea to stop watching TV. However, I think Slashdot is my new TV. Old habits die hard.
You obviously haven't played many games from the '80s. A good portion of them were just jumping to get to platforms and avoid various objects. Take a look at the original Donkey Kong. Wikipedia article -- Appears to be a free flash version...
I'm 33 and my first computer didn't have a hard drive, just a floppy. I think each floppy could hold 128k on each side. Yes, you had to flip it over.
For hard drives, I think my first was 1 Gig. Maybe less, because I can't remember how big it was on my first IBM compatible. Old age can make the memory fade.;-)
Unless you count my dad's TI computer--wasn't really mine. It didn't even have a floppy or any storage at first. I think it had 16k of RAM. Eventually he bought a cassette tape drive...
Doesn't sound too bad, except I don't need a $100 underpowered dual head card. I see they have AGP, but what about normal 3d cards?...hmmm...I do recall seeing a "free" (after rebate) matrox card on tigerdirect. If it wouldn't fry my computer (my computer is not compatible with its voltage), I'd try it.
Maybe I should check tigerdirect again see if they have any better matrox cards...
ATI - since when did they become open source? I kept hearing all the crap about ati cards not only not being open source, but no linux drivers at all... When did this happen? I sense a vast conspiracy by ati and nvidia to make linux users buy lots of video cards...
Yeah, but where do you get video cards with their chipset? Or are they only on motherboards? Where can you buy them? The only place I've even seen one is on my dad's old emachine, but the current ones have some other video chipset (nvidia I think).
The problem is the same as why you shouldn't run as root all the time. If you use any networking app (such as Mozilla/Firefox) and it has any sort of code execution vulnerability (such as buffer overflows), then a potentially untrusted user could run code under your account, just by creating a buffer overflow using a specially formed web page or image file or mail/news message. With this vulnerablility, they can gain root access too. Do anything they want.
This is true. However, it seems the most common uses of dlopen are to either load optional modules or choose a specific module in its own package, so I am not sure how much of a problem that will be.
It would be helpful if those making the executables would make sure they encode the lib's version into the system, and standardize which version difference indicates an incompatible ABI. I think that is what GTK project was trying to do with their scheme (libgtk-x11-2.0.so whatever), but apparently someone messed it up.
Also I wonder if there is a way to encode dlopened modules or modules loaded another way onto the elf file. I admit, I haven't studied exactly how the libraries and variables all work in ELF, so I don't know if there is a way to indicate it already.
As for python files, the source could be parsed, that should detect most modules loaded by the.py file. Perhaps some syntax could be created, so programmers can indicate to the packager (and other systems) the undetectable modules which are required.
After all this, why not also allow these files to contain required data files as well. I think this would only improve the system. It would probably be a help for admins as well. Have you ever looked at a binary and wondered what files it needs? I suppose you could just look at all the strings in the file, but it would be tedious and the string may not even be there...
I'm not so sure about that one. First off, if it needed version 2.1, it should say 2.1, not 2.0.
Then there is the other problem: in general, it seemed to be a consensus that major version numbers would change if there was a significant change to the ABI, especially adding or removing functions. If programmers would follow this convention, using ldd to detect deps wouldn't be as much a problem. Though I suppose you could expand it to scanning all the variables, but you'd need a huge database for one thing...
I knew Debian provided source, but I don't know an easy way to find it. I probably just need to look through their site more...maybe I got lost, but the ftp site you gave appears to only have binaries. Not a problem, since I found alien, which says it will translate to any packaging format.
As for dependancy tracking, Slackware doesn't use any, so I won't notice much difference if the system just cut that out. However one of the main reasons for dependancies is finding all the libraries, so I don't understand why ldd can't be done on the binaries of a package, which will give all the missing libraries, then search the package system for which packages have those library files. There may be a problem if exact version numbers are needed, but I think it would work better than the current systems. At least as an extra check on the current dep system. I suppose data file deps might be a problem (does anyone do this?)
Unipkg looks promising. I haven't had the chance to try it yet, but sounds like they have a good plan.
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No that is a Free prison.
Open ones can release them under any license, BSD to GPL or whatever, just as long as you are allowed to copy the source code.
Well, I doubt he will go to a county lockup. I think the Feds have minimum security prisons. I'm sure he will go there.
Also, I would imagine the prisoners are responsible for cleaning their own cells. Most of them probably don't care. If one guy did, his cell would be clean, I'm sure. I don't see why they would keep cheap cleaning products from prisoners (well, maybe used as weapons), it would keep them from revolting and it is easier to guard busy people.
People who blindly want to criminalize "drugs" (really medical technology) should be poisoned by "religious extremists" until they come down with a medical condition (like I was), then they should be denied access to medical care (even if you can afford to pay cash, like I was), until the condition becomes so bad they now have a serious uncurable conditions (such as kindey failure and strokes, like I have), then they can join in the "fun" of dealing with the controlled medical system.
Why should I have to go to the trouble of arranging for prescrptions and such? There is no reasonable reason whatsoever to require prescriptions for a lot of medications and medical technology. Why for blood pressure medications, dialysis solution (steralized sugarfied salt water), eyeglasses, epogen, acid reducers (ranitidyne--now OTC--and prevacid), and so on. None of those are even addictive. The only one of those which could be abused is epo, but if some athlete dies because he wants to cheat, who cares? Fuck him.
One time I had to go for almost a week without blood pressure medication (which you are not supposed to stop at all) because the doctor was too busy, then there was a 3 day weekend on top of it.
Also I have difficulty getting to the pharmacy, and their mail system sucks. With the prescription system even trying out different mail order pharmacy would take a month or two to switch, and if they suck too, it's another month somewhere else. I could possibly be without essential medication (my blood pressure goes dangerously high) for a couple months looking for a mail order pharmacy that works, and I could not just magically find transport and go down to the origional pharmacy because they wouldn't have my prescription anymore.
I don't fucking care if some stupid junkies get shot up, overdose, or go fuck themselves. As for crimes they do, plenty of other people commit crimes for other reasons. So, what are you saying? Should we take away money, so those who don't work get the same things as those who do? Somebody already tried that, ask a Russian if they want to bring communism back. I bet most of them will not only say no, but they will beat the fuck out of you just for suggesting it.
Medical technologies should be avaliable to anyone who needs them.
You can do better than that. Install OpenBSD on one computer. Find a bunch of old terminals out of some junk heap and hook them up to the computer. Sell all the other computers on Ebay. Make them use the terminals while you stare at the logs all day. See them hack it now, mofos!
That sounds like an organized crime problem to me. Similar with alcohol in the prohibition era of the US. Last time I checked, the US didn't have organized crime lords smuggling booze anymore.
How can you be so sure about that? It will not always be true. Maybe this bill wasn't serious enough--though "redistricting" can be a tool for those in power to manipulate the voting system. What if congress or the president was about to sign a law/order requiring all non-politicans be made into slave labor?
This is true, but what about just recording unique IPs and timestamp(s)? Just one timestamp per second. How many different servers / peers do users connect to per hour? Probably not many.
That is why you use a laser printer with microscopic type. Say, a character size of .1 mm by .1 mm
Slashdot has always been an IT troubleshooting forum. What else are you going to do with it? Drink beer? I admit, beer and tacos are a good mix.
You don't understand. One of the Nielsen execs had sex with a Wii. With the box shouting "Wii! Wii! Wii!" throughout the entire time, the guy couldn't help but remember its name. In the meeting, he said "I can't remember where, but I heard about some Wii game thing. What's this Wii thing I keep hearing about? We got to do something with it!"
Since all execs can only remember two things at a time, the Xbox fell out his brain, leaving only the PS3 and Wii. Corporate drones must follow. There you have it.
Either that, or M$ $uxx0rs!!! Yahhh!!! Maybe MS "alien probed" the company one too many times. ;-P
Umm...how do they not do this now? I have seen very few innovative games recently. Many seem to be remakes of movies, or FPS, or RPGs, and such. Where are these great games? Animal Crossing is the best, most original one I've seen for a long time, and it isn't so spectacular.
My parents did the ratings bit a few months ago. They still do the diary. I'm sure it is much the same since the 1980s, but they may have added the page for VCR/DVR recordings since then...
Actually, it probably is a good idea to stop watching TV. However, I think Slashdot is my new TV. Old habits die hard.
Why use flash when you can make a real interface in 3D?
You obviously haven't played many games from the '80s. A good portion of them were just jumping to get to platforms and avoid various objects. Take a look at the original Donkey Kong. Wikipedia article -- Appears to be a free flash version...
Yeah, I wouldn't mind the cutscenes so much if I could play the damn game while they were running.
I'm 33 and my first computer didn't have a hard drive, just a floppy. I think each floppy could hold 128k on each side. Yes, you had to flip it over.
For hard drives, I think my first was 1 Gig. Maybe less, because I can't remember how big it was on my first IBM compatible. Old age can make the memory fade. ;-)
Unless you count my dad's TI computer--wasn't really mine. It didn't even have a floppy or any storage at first. I think it had 16k of RAM. Eventually he bought a cassette tape drive...
Doesn't sound too bad, except I don't need a $100 underpowered dual head card. I see they have AGP, but what about normal 3d cards? ...hmmm...I do recall seeing a "free" (after rebate) matrox card on tigerdirect. If it wouldn't fry my computer (my computer is not compatible with its voltage), I'd try it.
Maybe I should check tigerdirect again see if they have any better matrox cards...
Intel-where do I buy a graphics card?
ATI - since when did they become open source? I kept hearing all the crap about ati cards not only not being open source, but no linux drivers at all... When did this happen? I sense a vast conspiracy by ati and nvidia to make linux users buy lots of video cards...
Yeah, but where do you get video cards with their chipset? Or are they only on motherboards? Where can you buy them? The only place I've even seen one is on my dad's old emachine, but the current ones have some other video chipset (nvidia I think).
The problem is the same as why you shouldn't run as root all the time. If you use any networking app (such as Mozilla/Firefox) and it has any sort of code execution vulnerability (such as buffer overflows), then a potentially untrusted user could run code under your account, just by creating a buffer overflow using a specially formed web page or image file or mail/news message. With this vulnerablility, they can gain root access too. Do anything they want.
Okay, I'd love to buy a modern 3d accelerated video card with working open drivers. What chipset is it? Where do I get one? The magic yak fairyland?
This is true. However, it seems the most common uses of dlopen are to either load optional modules or choose a specific module in its own package, so I am not sure how much of a problem that will be.
It would be helpful if those making the executables would make sure they encode the lib's version into the system, and standardize which version difference indicates an incompatible ABI. I think that is what GTK project was trying to do with their scheme (libgtk-x11-2.0.so whatever), but apparently someone messed it up.
Also I wonder if there is a way to encode dlopened modules or modules loaded another way onto the elf file. I admit, I haven't studied exactly how the libraries and variables all work in ELF, so I don't know if there is a way to indicate it already.
As for python files, the source could be parsed, that should detect most modules loaded by the .py file. Perhaps some syntax could be created, so programmers can indicate to the packager (and other systems) the undetectable modules which are required.
After all this, why not also allow these files to contain required data files as well. I think this would only improve the system. It would probably be a help for admins as well. Have you ever looked at a binary and wondered what files it needs? I suppose you could just look at all the strings in the file, but it would be tedious and the string may not even be there...
I'm not so sure about that one. First off, if it needed version 2.1, it should say 2.1, not 2.0.
Then there is the other problem: in general, it seemed to be a consensus that major version numbers would change if there was a significant change to the ABI, especially adding or removing functions. If programmers would follow this convention, using ldd to detect deps wouldn't be as much a problem. Though I suppose you could expand it to scanning all the variables, but you'd need a huge database for one thing...
Oh, I see my problem, I was looking under "i" for Iceweasel. It wasn't there, so I looked at another package, and that one only had .debs
Thank you for the info.
I knew Debian provided source, but I don't know an easy way to find it. I probably just need to look through their site more...maybe I got lost, but the ftp site you gave appears to only have binaries. Not a problem, since I found alien, which says it will translate to any packaging format.
As for dependancy tracking, Slackware doesn't use any, so I won't notice much difference if the system just cut that out. However one of the main reasons for dependancies is finding all the libraries, so I don't understand why ldd can't be done on the binaries of a package, which will give all the missing libraries, then search the package system for which packages have those library files. There may be a problem if exact version numbers are needed, but I think it would work better than the current systems. At least as an extra check on the current dep system. I suppose data file deps might be a problem (does anyone do this?)
Unipkg looks promising. I haven't had the chance to try it yet, but sounds like they have a good plan.
Thanks for your input.