I saw this guy give a talk maybe 7-10 years ago about some system they'd built. They hadn't even take the time to install a proper garbage collector and Andy claimed the memory leak was a feature -- "our data is persistent" (even when it's become inaccessible).
sorry, but DOE isn't Lucent. I was saying that Lucent isn't putting any research R/D dollars into Plan9, who knows what DOE, NSA, ETC is doing. In fact, the whole group that had Kernighan and those guys was disbanded---most left for Google and others went their merry way inside and outside of Lucent.
There may be more users than ever, but no more development of Plan9 at the labs and very very few users if any. Plan9 is dead for Bell Labs and hence Lucatel.
No, their mangement was good. Before being disbanded they were headed by Aho -- you know, an author of the Dragon book and of the book on algorithms. It was probably company pressure that broke it apart and sent the pieces flying.
No, not really; but extrapolating, that's going to be the next headline out of that place. Declining search quality, mixed up internals, expensive ads, over drive hype. "Don't be evil" -- yeah, whatever.
Polymorph
Have you every considered that that company may be internally in chaos? Predicting financial markets when they can't even deliver relevant spam-free search results anymore? Please.
polymorph
Hear hear. Google has slipped so far over the last 2 years I feel they're trying to salvage what slight advantage they still have. Yahoo, for one, has comparable search results and advertising there is usually cheaper. MSN is chomping at the bit, and there are lots of other little search players waiting in the wings (A9.com for one).
Google needs to restore its pristine search results, then IPO.
I thought AllTheWeb.com is owned by Overture which
was bought by Yahoo!, or maybe AllTheWeb.com was
purchased independently by Yahoo! In any case,
AllTheWeb.com is Yahoo!'s.
The spammers, tweakers, and whatever-you-want-to-call-them -- those people rigging Google's rankings to get their sites on top, get paid for this service, so indirectly it's paid placement.
Only Google doesn't get paid! Yahoo is being smart by cutting out this middleman.
using the massive parallelism of/., we can test this.
tuck your thumb under your index finger, place a quarter on your thumb heads up, and flip the coin into the air. be sure to get the initial conditions right (quarter, heads up).
let it land on the floor.
message me with an H or T indicating whether it landed heads or tails. i'll tally as many msgs as i can and will post the results in a day or so.
But the term "googling" has already become generic, just as when I ask for a Kleenex and am handed a tissue made by Puff's or whatever -- it's a commodity and doesn't matter. Similarly, I can "google" something by using yahoo, alltheweb, askjeeves, msn, mooter, or anybody else and they'll answer my query.
In the end it won't matter where the results come from, as long as they are cheap and accurate. There'll always be some search box handy. Who cares if it's a Kleenex or not.
If anyone thinks that the most truly creative minds will jump through the hoops to get a PhD so they can learn to innovate, please think again. Case in point, Google's founders.
In fact, the inverse may be true:
Creativity implies not having a PhD.
not only is yahoo now serving its own queries, but the google ipo is on indefinite hold, as reported here and elsewhere a few weeks ago.
tr, get with it!
or like the Macarena...
it's a fad without commitment. coke tastes
good, windows is deeply rooted infrastructure, but show me a better search engine and i'll reset my home page faster than you can say xerox.
Yeah, Yahoo flipping the switch today(?) is a plausible reason for the Google (non) announcement. Not a coincidence at all, IMO. Google should worry a bit, but not too much since they're still way ahead.
Slashdot Mirror
So does that mean the proof is valid for some suitable definition of universal and that the prize will be awarded?
As described in: http://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-Jeff-Hawkins/dp /0805078533/sr=8-1/qid=1171294577/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/ 002-9722002-6024059?ie=UTF8&s=books
P.
I saw this guy give a talk maybe 7-10 years ago about some system they'd built. They hadn't even take the time to install a proper garbage collector and Andy claimed the memory leak was a feature -- "our data is persistent" (even when it's become inaccessible).
What a joker.
Polymorph
sorry, but DOE isn't Lucent. I was saying that Lucent isn't putting any research R/D dollars into Plan9, who knows what DOE, NSA, ETC is doing. In fact, the whole group that had Kernighan and those guys was disbanded---most left for Google and others went their merry way inside and outside of Lucent.
There may be more users than ever, but no more development of Plan9 at the labs and very very few users if any. Plan9 is dead for Bell Labs and hence Lucatel.
There's nothing left to get. Plan9 died a few years ago at the labs when everybody went to google.
Middle managers will be the first to go. That's where the problems are.
No, their mangement was good. Before being disbanded they were headed by Aho -- you know, an author of the Dragon book and of the book on algorithms. It was probably company pressure that broke it apart and sent the pieces flying.
PolyMorph
No, not really; but extrapolating, that's going to be the next headline out of that place. Declining search quality, mixed up internals, expensive ads, over drive hype. "Don't be evil" -- yeah, whatever. Polymorph
Aside from Google news, what's the last innovative thing to come out of them? Nothing. They have page rank and that's beginning to smell.
Have you every considered that that company may be internally in chaos? Predicting financial markets when they can't even deliver relevant spam-free search results anymore? Please. polymorph
Hear hear. Google has slipped so far over the last 2 years I feel they're trying to salvage what slight advantage they still have. Yahoo, for one, has comparable search results and advertising there is usually cheaper. MSN is chomping at the bit, and there are lots of other little search players waiting in the wings (A9.com for one).
Google needs to restore its pristine search results, then IPO.
polymorph
and they know it, hence the IPO. Quality of searches is way down, outages due to viruses, stiff competition. polymorph
What do you mean "catch-up"? Gmail isn't even available to the public yet!
Looks like only 2 of my 3 Yahoo! accounts got the boost overnight? Anyone know more details about the rollout? polymorpheus
don't be mistaken, playing winning poker, let alone playing at world-class level, is very very hard work. nothing's free.
I thought AllTheWeb.com is owned by Overture which was bought by Yahoo!, or maybe AllTheWeb.com was purchased independently by Yahoo! In any case, AllTheWeb.com is Yahoo!'s.
The spammers, tweakers, and whatever-you-want-to-call-them -- those people rigging Google's rankings to get their sites on top, get paid for this service, so indirectly it's paid placement. Only Google doesn't get paid! Yahoo is being smart by cutting out this middleman.
Live, Long, and Prosper.
Polymorph
using the massive parallelism of /., we can test this.
tuck your thumb under your index finger, place a quarter on your thumb heads up, and flip the coin into the air. be sure to get the initial conditions right (quarter, heads up). let it land on the floor.
message me with an H or T indicating whether it landed heads or tails. i'll tally as many msgs as i can and will post the results in a day or so.
how is search.yahoo.com more cluttered than google.com?
But the term "googling" has already become generic, just as when I ask for a Kleenex and am handed a tissue made by Puff's or whatever -- it's a commodity and doesn't matter. Similarly, I can "google" something by using yahoo, alltheweb, askjeeves, msn, mooter, or anybody else and they'll answer my query.
In the end it won't matter where the results come from, as long as they are cheap and accurate. There'll always be some search box handy. Who cares if it's a Kleenex or not.
If anyone thinks that the most truly creative minds will jump through the hoops to get a PhD so they can learn to innovate, please think again. Case in point, Google's founders.
In fact, the inverse may be true:
Creativity implies not having a PhD.
not only is yahoo now serving its own queries, but the google ipo is on indefinite hold, as reported here and elsewhere a few weeks ago. tr, get with it!
or like the Macarena...
it's a fad without commitment. coke tastes good, windows is deeply rooted infrastructure, but show me a better search engine and i'll reset my home page faster than you can say xerox.
Yeah, Yahoo flipping the switch today(?) is a plausible reason for the Google (non) announcement. Not a coincidence at all, IMO. Google should worry a bit, but not too much since they're still way ahead.