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  1. Other side of the story on Author Charles Stross: Is Amazon a Malignant Monopoly, Or Just Plain Evil? · · Score: 1

    Stross seems to take Hachette's side of the fight with Amazon. Some other authors see it differently:
      One author/publisher's take, and another's view.

  2. Re:I know this is Slashdot, but... on The Poor Neglected Gifted Child · · Score: 1

    I don't think American business elites' desire to make fuller use of kids' intellectual capacity is authoritarian. It mostly likely flows from their own experiences as gifted kids, wasting years of their childhood in schools that were, to put it charitably, not designed to maximize anyone's potential.

    Childhood is a rare time when you're primed for learning, have enormous amounts of free time, and few competing responsibilities. We should be leveraging that as best we can, not just for the gifted, but for every student.

    It's more important than ever, given the increasing automation away of many jobs, and the increased competition globally for work. We're not just talking about helping people who will get PhDs. We're also talking about helping ensure kids who will never get PhDs make full use of their talents. This helps not only on the job, but when transitioning careers as your old job becomes obsolete, as well as performing better in basic duties of citizenship.

    It's also a better time than ever to reform. The Internet makes it possible for the best lecturers to deliver to kids everywhere, and for kids to follow their interests and stay engaged in a way never before possible. Classroom technology will increasingly enable teachers to get real-time feedback on what each individual in their class is struggling with, enabling far more individualized feedback and tutoring. It can allow teachers to learn from a far larger set of their own peers about what works.

    We have the potential to maximize the potential of EVERY student - not just the "average" student, but special-needs and gifted kids too. Better yet, it's not a zero-sum game pitting gifted kids against special-needs kids. It's the ability to deliver individually-tailored instruction to every child at affordable cost, unlocking a vast amount of human potential that today is simply wasted.

    It'll take experimentation and innovation to evolve the right tools and practices, which is why if we get behind it I think we'll do better than the authoritarian regimes you mention. I just hope we don't allow bureaucratic inertia and fears over inequality to thwart progress. Inequality can be addressed through methods other than keeping kids ignorant, and it's far from clear that inequality would actually incease. While the gifted would benefit, I suspect the less-gifted and disadvantaged will benefit even more, simply because the current schooling approach offers such unequal opportunities for development.

  3. incoherent arguments throughout on Why Bitcoin Is Doomed To Fail, In One Economist's Eyes · · Score: 2

    First, a brief correction: the author of the op-ed is not an economist. He's a journalist and former financial analyst who writes on economics topics for the NY Times.

    Second, the op-ed makes a number of errors:

    1. He asserts without evidence that non-government currency is inherently inferior to government currency, without defining the purposes for which it is supposedly inferior and in what ways. Medium of exchange? Unit of account? Store of value?

    2. His argument relies upon his unsubstantiated belief that "no bank or bitcoin-emitter can be as public-minded as a government", and that "no private power can raise taxes or pass laws to unwind monetary excesses". This ignores the signficant body of research on the not-so-public-mindedness of public officials. It ignores the fact that the "monetary excesses" he needs to unwind are frequently caused by government monetary policy, rather than being inherent to currency. It also ignores the fact that Bitcoin's cap on supply was designed precisely to avoid such monetary excesses. Perhaps Bitcoin's design in this regard is deficient, but the author apparently could not be troubled to make any argument detailing how.

    3. He criticizes "private money" such as Bitcoin for having uncertain value, and for its potential to lose value if users lose faith, despite these problems applying to state-backed currencies as well. It's not as if we've never seen runs on banks, unexpected inflation or even hyperinflation with government fiat currency.

    4. He further criticizes Bitcoin for its alleged anonymity and thus a potential for tax evasion, neglecting the fact that Bitcoin is less anonymous than the goverment paper currency known as "cash".

    5. He repeatedly makes the argument that because we've had state-backed currencies for a long time, they must be superior. This neglects the possibility that effective non-government currencies were not feasible at scale in the past simply due to a lack of technology (crypto and global instant communications). And it neglects the possibility that the future of currency is not either-or, but both.

    This is what happens when the poltical-media establishment tries to shoehorn a story about technology and economics into the same tired left-vs-right, government-as-perfection vs. government-as-catastrophe narratives. You get an incoherent, poorly researched, poorly argued mess. The author may end up being right that Bitcoin won't last, but he's not given us any sound argument to support his claim.

  4. Re:True, but misleading. on Excel Error Contributes To Problems With Austerity Study · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that if mining gold is worth something (for whatever reasons people value that particular commodity - electronics, jewelry, or just as a collector's item), then by burying it that value is destroyed. Mining and burying are opposites, if one has positive value the other must have negative value.

    Also, paying people to do useless things means they have less time (and perhaps incentive) to look for real work, and less time to retrain for the jobs that are available. By prolonging the mismatch between the skills workers have with the skills jobs require, we could prolong the recession.

    Now did that happen in this case? I don't know. But I do think quality is a relevant and neglected consideration in stimulus discussion, mostly because nobody bothers to plan for it until we're in a crisis.

  5. Re:When you're cooking the data ... on Excel Error Contributes To Problems With Austerity Study · · Score: 1

    That's a fair point. Causation has not been proven (and in fact R&R are careful to state as much).

  6. Re:True, but misleading. on Excel Error Contributes To Problems With Austerity Study · · Score: 1

    If you are paying interests below inflation, you should pile up debt, if possible long term, as much as you can.

    It's true that sub-inflation interest rates means the lender is paying you to take the loan. But exploiting that without screwing yourself means more than just taking the loan.

    Most importantly you need to find someplace to save or invest the received loan money so that it doesn't disappear before you need to pay the loan back. Ideally something that gives you a positive return. Yes, you can roll over the debts to new lenders as the bonds mature, for quite a long time. Perhaps even indefinitely if you have a stable level of debt to income.

    The problem of course is that many Western countries do not have stable debt levels, they keep taking on more. That works until your ability to repay gets called into question. At some point lenders see the risk as too high, and won't lend except at high interest rates. Then your repayments or new interest burdens give you a nasty shock to your standard of living, which could have been avoided by either investing the loan prudently (human capital or infrastructure gaps, for example) or by avoiding the loan altogether. Sadly politicians do not seem particularly adept at this task.

    Also, in a semi-depressed economy, any kind of spending by the government, even on inane things, will turn out to help recovery, provided enough people get to dip in. Of course if you spend on unemployment benefits and on re-training of workers, you get much more immediate returns.

    The first sentence is the subject of considerable debate by professional economists. There are lots of studies in both directions ("multipliers" less than, or greater than, 1).

    I think your second sentence is getting at the right idea - the effect you get is a function of the quality of the spending. Stimulus that gives a well-connected person the ability to buy a house on a tropical island somewhere is unlikely to help your local economy, and indeed will hurt because the tax money to fund it came at the expense of some other (probably more useful) function. On the other hand, stimulus that helped displaced workers retrain in more in-demand fields would likely help.

  7. Re:When you're cooking the data ... on Excel Error Contributes To Problems With Austerity Study · · Score: 1

    Consider revising your assumption that the 2010 paper's data was "cooked" and not simply that mistakes were made (which the authors have acknowledged), given that:

    1. A more recent (2012) study published by Reinhart & Rogoff, using data going all the way back to 1800, shows results that look almost identical to the latest Herndon, Ash, and Pollin data. There's no use "cooking" the data in 2010 just to uncook it yourself in 2012, well before the HAP results.

    2. Even HAP's supposed debunking of the 2010 R&R paper shows largely the same conclusions, which is that high debt loads lead to lower economic growth. The dispute is over the magnitudes, particularly for countries over the 90% debt/GDP ratio.

    Debt/GDP Mean Growth Rate (1945-2009)
    0-30 R&R=4.1, HAP=4.2
    30-60 R&R=2.8, HAP=3.1
    60-90 R&R=2.8, HAP=2.9
    90+ R&R=-0.1, HAP=2.2

    Historically the US has had about 3% annual growth. If our debt loads drops GDP growth to 2%, that's a HUGE loss in job prospects as well as in public tax revenues.

    Source data is here (free registration required I think):
    http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/2013/04/17/the-reinhart-rogoff-response-i/

  8. Re:The Stupidity, It Hurts! on Video Game Industry Starting To Feel Heat On Gun Massacres · · Score: 1

    Times do change, and we have an amendment process by which the Constitution can too. In practice we also have a system of judicial interpretation that often has the same practical effect as amendments (for better or worse, perhaps both).

    But just as some ignorant people refuse to adapt to new circumstances, other ignorant people insist on repeating their ancestors' mistakes. The Constitution has lasted a long time (unlike its predecessors and some contemporary constitutions in other nations) because it was designed around fundamental insights into human nature. Insights that in most cases remain true today.

    It no doubt has flaws (some of which have been addressed through amendments). But its success means we ought to at least understand where it's worked. where's it's not, and WHY before we casually dismiss one of the great accomplishments of practical politics as merely a few rules from the 1780s.

  9. Re:jury trials cost more money on How To Crash the US Justice System: Demand a Trial · · Score: 1

    The media isn't asking "pointed questions", they're asking for black and white answers when most peoples' views are gray.

    Take for example Medicare cuts. Everyone claims they want to cut spending, but nobody wants to cut the big stuff like Medicare, right? All the polls and the media say so. But if you actually have a little curiosity about your fellow citizens, and dig deeper rather than assume the populace are merely being hypocrites, you find that many of the same people who oppose cuts in the generic sense support them if you simply ensure that everyone gets out at least what they paid in. Given that Medicare pays out way more than people paid in, that's a big cut with majority support.

    But you wouldn't know it listening to Big Media. They're too busy telling us that our fellow man is ignorant or hypocritical or both. Sells better I guess, but fortunately the truth isn't quite so grim.

  10. Re:Suicide boats is not Iran's primary weapon on Tensions Over Hormuz Raise Ugly Possibilities For War · · Score: 2

    Except that the US could just wait the Iranians out - time is on the US side, which is why the Iranians are the ones saber-rattling.

    New oilfields are starting to be developed on the huge reserves of "tight oil" in the Americas, which we only recently developed the technology to extract. Once those fields are running, Iranian influence is greatly diluted.

    In a decade the Iranian regime may well topple due to civil strife, as some of its neighbors in the region have.

    Iranian threats so far have only served to unite the Middle East against the Iranians. It used to be Israel that was isolated in the region, now it is Iran.

    The best outcome for Iran would be a North-Korea-style deal in which the US supplies economic aid in return for a stop to Iran's nuclear program. The problem for the Iranians is that the US got played by Kim Jong-Il, and is thus unlikely to try that approach again.

    The threats to close the Strait are nothing more than a frustrated Iranian regime trying to gain leverage it simply doesn't have.

  11. Re:Except on DOJ Drops FOIA Rule To Permit Lying · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's not being a troll.

    The concern is not simply that they're American-made. It's that the executive branch (you know, the one Obama and his appointees lead) intentionally sold those 2000+ guns to known members of Mexican drug cartels. They knew at the time that these people were murderous thugs. But the officials overrode the objections of the gun dealers and some of the field agents to sell them anyway. This was allegedly to track where the guns would go, but A) the operation lost track of where most of the guns went, until B) some of those weapons were later used to kill a Border Patrol agent, not to mention in numerous Mexican crimes.

    The debacle was called "Operation Fast and Furious". While investigations are ongoing, it's been reported that at least one of Obama's Cabinet members knew of the program - Attorney General Holder was briefed mid-program, in contradiction of his testimony to Congress.

  12. Re:Bitterness on Ask Slashdot: How Do You View the Wall Street Protests? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To determine a course of action, first we need to diagnose the problem. My take is this:

    1. Both parties in Congress have become largely unresponsive, over the past decade at least, to the will of the people.

    2. They have become less responsive because they have gerrymandered district lines to an insane level. The popularity of Congress has been hovering around a mere 20% for years, yet the last 3 elections (2006, 2008, 2010), heralded as huge sweeps, saw roughly 85% of incumbents keep their seats. The voters are no longer picking their politicians, the politicians are picking their voters.

    3. Because of this dilution in voter power, the power of moneyed interests has increased (certainly in relative terms, maybe in absolute terms too). We see both parties increasingly enmeshed in cronyism, in which they attempt to give subsidies to allies while levying taxes or regulations against opponents. Even after the biggest financial disaster since the Great Depression, on a bipartisan basis Congress proved unable or unwilling to tackle Too Big To Fail. If that's not a sign that Congress has freed itself from the will of the voters, I don't know what is.

    Doing something about gerrymandering would seem to be a step in the right direction. An example would be to put responsibility for district lines into a nonpartisan commission's hands, perhaps aided by algorithms to help maximize competitiveness. That has the advantage of being something that folks from across the political spectrum could get behind.

    An additional response to Congressional misdeeds is to stop allowing Congress to meddle in as much as it does, thus limiting the damage. But that has several downsides: 1) the left in the US seems reluctant to constrain the power of Congress, and 2) the right in the US, despite its rhetoric, has been extremely ineffective in electing members who actually would limit Congress, perhaps because 3) there is currently very little incentive for Congress to constrain itself.

  13. Re:Disagreement with Value of Online Classes on Should College Go Online? · · Score: 1

    As a student (and working professional) I disagree. I've taken a number of both types of courses. In-person was fine when I was a full-time college student with time to burn (it's how I got my BS and MS degrees). Now I work full-time as an engineer, and take classes on the side to continue my professional development. I've found online courses to be far more valuable in my current situation.

    Let me tell you why. In-person courses require me to travel to the university campus, which is time I could be using to study or be with my family. In-person lectures by necessity have pacing issues when the students' technical backgrounds or abilities are heterogeneous. You either hold up the lecture for the subset of the students that don't get a particular topic, or you fly through it and that subset misses out. With online (recorded) lectures, there is flexibility for the student to pause the main lecture to think something through, rewind, or even to go look at supplementary materials on that particular subtopic. They can browse the online help forum for answers to common questions. And the other students need not wait for them to catch up.

    Online also offers schedule flexibility, so if you need to delay watching the lecture by a few hours because your kid got sick or you have a tight work deadline, you can do so.

  14. Re:How you define compensation on US Gov't Pays IT Contractors Twice As Much As Its Own IT Workers · · Score: 1

    Even so that's still not all the relevant costs to consider, if you want to truly know whether it is more cost-effective to contract or perform the work in-house.

    The authors of the study note many big gaps in their data in their methodology section, yet they go on to proclaim the government is "wasting billions" by contracting instead of hiring directly. The lack of data is so grave that such a conclusion - or in fact any conclusion as to whether the contracts were worth it or not - cannot be justified. For example:

    The contractor rates used as comparison were ceilings, not the actually negotiated rates paid (which are not published).

    The authors did not have access to government documents containing the analysis and justifications for decisions to contract work out.

    The study did not include contractor "overhead" costs - facilities (expensive in the DC metro area), supplies, administrative costs, etc. These easily add up to be more than the cost of the IT/engineering worker, even for a relatively small (read: lean) contractor. This overhead rate gets wrapped into the rate billed to the government, which is why you see multipliers like in the article. If the contractors were government employees, most of those costs don't go away.

    They did not include the costs of executing the contracts themselves.

    They did not include the costs associated with firing employees in government vs eliminating a contractor or telling the contracting company to provide a different worker. That includes the question of whether many contractors' being based in Virginia (a right-to-work state) rather than DC itself has any effect on such costs.

    They didn't have data on how much fluctuation in contract needs exists: If a government organization's needs fluctuate a lot, requiring different skill sets each year, then contracting for those skills as-needed makes more sense than creating a large churn in the government workforce. Conversely, if the roles required are usually the same, there may be advantages to building up the institutional knowledge in-house. This issue was ignored.

    They didn't have sufficiently detailed data to determine whether the government or the contractors had higher quality, more experienced, etc workers.

    The list could go on. There are way too many significant unknowns to draw much of a conclusion.

  15. Re:Stop on Solar Company Folds After $0.5B In Subsidies · · Score: 1

    In the US, those electric cars run on electricity generated in many cases by coal plants. So they just change where in the lifecycle the pollution occurs, not whether or not it occurs.

    The real elephant in the room is something Bill Gates brought up in a recent interview on Wired. He said we're spending 90% of our green-energy subsidies on deploying the current, economically uncompetitive technology, rather than research to make the technology competitive. Is it any wonder these "green" companies aren't taking off? Flip those proportions around - put 90% into research - and we'll have better odds of actually getting to that green energy future we always talk about. A nice side bonus is then you don't need much subsidy to get companies to deploy it, because it'll already be economically competitive, not to mention better for their reputation.

    The question is whether we'll have the patience as a society to make the research investment, or whether our rush to do something means we end up doing things that are actually less beneficial.

  16. Re:How do they know if the program is right? on Santa Cruz Tests Predictive Policing Program · · Score: 1

    A lot of what they're concerned with is violent street crimes like assault, murder, rape. For those crimes, the victims frequently end up in the hospital (or morgue). That means you can use those institutions' records to see trends, independent of artifacts introduced by observer bias in police statistics.

    Proving causation is pretty difficult, as there are a lot of other variables going into crime rates, but allegedly NYC has had some success with similar approaches.

  17. Re:The problem with "fiscal responsibility" ... on New IMF Head Says US Must Raise Debt Limit, or Face 'Nasty Consequences' · · Score: -1, Troll

    nothing wrong or hypocritical about playing by the rules as they exist, while simultaneously saying the rules are stupid and should be reformed.

    Otherwise, all of us who bitch about the national debt would be hypocrites for not voluntarily paying extra on our tax bill every year, to help the obvious problem that the government spends more than it takes in.

  18. Re:No one reads history books anymore... on New IMF Head Says US Must Raise Debt Limit, or Face 'Nasty Consequences' · · Score: 0

    That kind of voluntary national bankruptcy is insane.

    It would be insane. But it's a false choice to say "default or take on more debt". We have enough cash flow to pay our debt payments in full, along with much of the federal government. The only way we will default is if the Treasury Secretary, in a fit of anger, decides that if he doesn't get his way on the debt limit, he'll refuse to pay creditors rather than fund various government programs.

    His threats of default are just FUD. The Administration is not politically stupid. They spread the FUD because they don't want to be the ones deciding which 40% of spending gets cut. That's a political nightmare. They want Congress to do it, which is Congress's job, after all.

  19. Re:Only in America on New IMF Head Says US Must Raise Debt Limit, or Face 'Nasty Consequences' · · Score: 0, Troll

    You could literally confiscate every dime the wealthy earned last year, and still be nowhere near closing our yearly deficits.

    The simple fact is the US already taxes high-earners very progressively. More so than many other developed countries. The law of diminishing returns is going to prevent us from solving this problem primarily by soaking the rich - there just aren't enough high-earners to tax. We will no doubt squeeze the last bit we can out of them, but it will not be enough. Attempting to fix the deficit via tax increases will thus primarily hit the middle class, because in aggregate that's where the money is.

    Fixating on the wealthy is simply a red herring deployed by politicians to mask the real choice at hand, which are tough choices and votes on whose sacred cow spending gets cut.

    How much do we cut defense? Does it make sense to be waging 3 wars of dubious strategic value when we're broke?
    How much do we cut entitlements? In an era of aging populations and financial trouble, does it make sense to expect young workers, struggling to build careers and families, to pay an ever-increasing tax burden so that perfectly able older, wealthier people can enjoy taxpayer-financed retirement and health care for 20 or 30 years?
    How much do we cut the countless other government programs, which grew dramatically under Bush, but which each have a dedicated special interest to defend them?

    Nobody likes those questions, because they mean everybody does not get everything they want. But it's the unfortunate financial reality.

  20. Re:This threat isn't from banks this time on New IMF Head Says US Must Raise Debt Limit, or Face 'Nasty Consequences' · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tea Party which is holding President Obama hostage on the budget. They simply do not want Obama to pass a budget

    Well, when the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency in 2010, they failed to pass a budget. The Tea Party didn't have any power to stop them back then.

    The Tea Party wants a budget - they just want it to be balanced, rather than simply pile on more and more unsustainable debt.

  21. Re:File under on New IMF Head Says US Must Raise Debt Limit, or Face 'Nasty Consequences' · · Score: 0

    if you want to talk about not understanding economics, you look no further than this idea that if an entity has taken on too much debt, the solution is... take on even more debt. The idea that limiting the debt would raise interest rates makes no sense - rates rise if creditors think you are unable to pay your bills. Having less debt makes you MORE likely to pay your bills. Even in the current recession (and resulting low tax revenues), the US has plenty of cash flow with which to pay its creditors and for major entitlement programs, so stopping the endless stream of debt increases will not cause default, unless the Treasury Secretary decides it is politically expedient to do so rather than anger various special interests whose gravy trains may otherwise be reduced.

    These claims of dire effects from living within our means are mostly FUD by those who want to borrow and spend more, rather than finally prioritize what spending is essential and what is not.

    That said, there is a valid argument that aligning our spending habits with reality would be easier to take if phased in over a couple of years. That would involve a small debt limit increase, but the debate has not progressed to that degree of maturity yet. We're still in the denial phase, in which most of the politicians insist on continuing the status quo, in which they avoid making a choice that any given individual or company doesn't need another government program, another taxpayer subsidy, etc. Trying to please everybody is impossible, and is how we got a $14 trillion debt to begin with.

  22. Re:Not anti-intellectualism on Is There a New Geek Anti-Intellectualism? · · Score: 1

    I suspect what you're seeing is not a disdain for knowledge itself (anti-intellectualism), but instead three things:

    1. A disdain for the arrogance with which certain "experts" conduct themselves, specifically an over-reliance on appeals to authority. Experts should be able to make appears to logic, by providing the relevant facts they gained from their expertise. Routine reliance on "I have degree X, therefore you must do Y" is a sign of intellectual decay. It's the sort of thing you expect to hear from religious zealots, not scientific experts. Don't get me wrong - I place a lot of weight in the authority, of, say, my physician. But if he simply told me "take this drug" without explaining himself, I'd find a new doctor. Ditto for experts in other fields.

    2. A disdain for experts whose expertise in their narrow field is not matched by an awareness of, and good judgment in, the broader world. These are the folks always coming up with some new Grand Scheme, based on some narrow concern, and blissfully ignorant of all the hell that will break loose if you actually inflict that scheme on the world. This usually boils down to a lack of understanding of economics or systems thinking in general. There are no free lunches and every solution will involve tradeoffs.

    3. Many tradeoffs of public concern involve multiple disciplines, while expertise is increasingly focused on small niches. As humanity's knowledge base expands, this becomes somewhat inevitable. But it makes expertise in one field insufficient for the expert to have much of a leg up on generalists, when it comes to deciding What To Do. That's not disrespect for expertise, it's acknowledging that there's a lot more expertise required than one practitioner will have.

    For example, a climate scientist can model the likely effects of CO2 emissions on the temperature. Concerned, he proposes some strict cap on CO2 emissions. But can he tell me how that proposal will play out? Probably not better than other generally educated people. He's not an expert on economics. He's not an expert on the various energy industries or the technologies behind the alternatives. He's not an expert on the legislative process. So his guess is as good as anyone's, when it comes to what the effect of his policy idea would be. Will it hurt economic growth, and if so, by how much? Is that a short-term effect or long-term problem? What alternative technologies are likely to be required for a lower-carbon energy future? Do they cause environmental problems themselves? If we screw things up, how long will it take us to fix it? Just look at the ethanol-as-fuel boondoggle. "Experts" thought that was a great idea. The government mandated it, in part on those recommendations. Eventually everyone realized that it's actually worse for the environment, economically inefficent, and drives up food prices too. But the US government still subsidizes it, years later. When folks get invested in a potential "solution", sometimes they confuse others' frustration with their inability to assess tradeoffs as anti-intellectualism. It's not. It's just a recognition that some things are hard problems.

  23. Re:Not anti-intellectualism on Is There a New Geek Anti-Intellectualism? · · Score: 1

    Why can't the pleasure of learning be the significant return?

    Of course it can. But there are many ways to learn, some more costly than others, so if your objective is to maximize your learning, you may well decide college is not the right forum for learning certain things, while it is for others. For example:

    1. A lot of learning is both pleasurable and economically rewarding. For example, much of engineering, mathematics, and the sciences offer economic returns as well as intellectual ones.

    2. For pleasurable learning that is not economically rewarding, there are often less expensive ways than college to obtain it. For example, you don't need to pay thousands of dollars just to read the classics. They're readily available at the bookstore for far less. So you have to ask yourself, how much is the classroom experience worth to you, for a specific type of learning? Is it worth tens of thousands of dollars a year more? Maybe - if you want to teach literature at university someday, or have a huge passion for the subject. Maybe not, if you're just learning for pleasure's sake.

    3. What different learning could that same amount of money buy you? Is it worth thousands of dollars to take a class about a foreign country, when for the same sum you could actually visit that country? Maybe, maybe not, depending on your goals and opportunity costs.

    The real issue with the "become better rounded" argument for college is not with being rounded, per se. A liberal education is great. It's that the argument is often made by folks who do not know where they are trying to go in life, make an enormous life decision without putting serious thought into it, and then graduate and complain how unfair life is that they have six-figure debts and no career prospects. These people are known as "fools", but pretend to be "intellectuals" because admitting foolishness is a blow to one's ego.

    On the other hand, if you make a college decision with your eyes wide open, and are willing to trade off your future material well-being for the intellectual rewards of, say, an art history degree, I salute you. That's not foolish, that's having values and living up to them.

  24. Re:What does it say about our society... on What's Your College Major Worth? · · Score: 1

    It says most of our K-12 education system is a government-run monopoly. Being a monopoly, there is little incentive in the system for schools to compete for teacher talent. Why pay a great teacher $100k, if having that teacher (rather than a mediocre one you can pay less) doesn't bring the school the extra revenue needed to pay that high salary? And if you don't pay well, many of the most talented people will look to other careers where they can be better rewarded for their brains and creativity. It's a vicious cycle, in which we systematically discourage good teaching and good teachers.

    Not good for our future, unless we fix the system.

  25. Re:Trade-school mentality on What's Your College Major Worth? · · Score: 1

    The point of getting a degree from college isn't to learn vocational skills, it's to more generally broaden yourself and to learn how to learn

    Maybe there are a few wealthy folks who are willing and able to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars just to "broaden" themselves, but most folks cannot afford that luxury. Don't get me wrong - broadening your horizons is important - but you can do that outside the university for a far more affordable price. Which is why most people expect a degree will "influence their earnings" - it's the only way attending a university these days makes any economic sense.

    I really don't understand why we would insist on labeling those who want their education to have real-world applicability as having a "trade-school mentality". There seems to be this idea that pragmatically-motivated learning is inferior to learning for the sake of learning. Or that learning broadly is something that can only be done by learning useless crap. I don't believe either is true. Recognizing that your time is a scarce resource and should not be squandered is a sign of maturity. Reading the classics is great, not because the priesthood of academia declared it so, but because you can learn much about human nature and your own relationships. But if someone doesn't understand the value of reading a book some dead guy wrote hundreds of years ago, instead of selling them on the real value of it, we act as if they're intellectually deficient. This is not the way to create a broadly educated populace... unless discouraging the masses from joining the ranks of the "college-educated" is in fact the point? College degrees aren't the status symbols they used to be...

    I also suspect that if you didn't know how to learn before you got to the university, you will not do well at the university.

    Perhaps even more troubling is the notion that the sole goal in life is to make more money. What about doing a job that you enjoy, even if it pays less?

    I don't think anyone's arguing for the notion that the sole goal in life is to make money. Most people make money so that they can have a decent lifestyle. Like to travel? Costs money. Like a comfortable home? Costs money. Want your kids to have music lessons? Costs money. Etc.

    If you have a passion for a career that doesn't pay well, that may be worth pursuing, if the pleasure you get from it outweighs the worry that comes with not having money. But a lot of folks do not have some burning passion for a particular career, they have a passion for their social life - friends, family, etc. They might as well pick something that pays well.