How about we hold people liable when we discover they actually violate a particular copyright, rather than trying to extent tort coverage to criminal concepts like "aiding and abetting". Seriously.
I'm not being hyperbolic. Lack of vaccination is literally proportionate murder in my eyes. That reflects a just if you drained 1/5th the blood to kill a person, and the next 4 people came along and did the same. There's a direct liability, and I see an ethical failing in ignoring it.
Yes, but in those cases, those people make CHOICES that directly instigate the harm, and can be held accountable. Here the harm is purely statistical in nature, and the instigators are those who choose to create the risk. Hence liability law. You're actively endorsing the death of other people. You're just happy about it.
There's one expert there, which is impressive, far more than most pointless climate petitions. Thomas Wysmuller appears to be responsible for at least 10 or 20 presentations on the subject of how climate change is "false", but oddly enough, not one real factual, data driven, peer reviewed paper published in any journal or anything.
How odd, you'd think such an expert who had such strong opinions and spent so much time on the subject would have, some, you know, research they produced. Nope. I see several distinct "alternate" theories with his name attached, some of which somehow manage to contradict each other in general terms.
It's like he's throwing his name behind every single thing that is opposed to anthropogenic climate change without actually being informed. How bizarre.
I'm glad you found an excuse to justify the intentional murder of other human beings. It's always nice to see horrible inhuman monsters who feel they have the moral high ground.
The consequences delineated in the article are the inevitable consequence of non-vaccination by a statistically significant portion of the populace. That's just the nature of diseases.
This, to me, might well be the final straw. What can I do to reverse this? I'm not apathetic, I'm willing to work to change this, but thanks to the majority of the voting public, I feel the simplest solutions will not work. What can I do to stop this?
What were the other predictions? How do they relate to scientific observation? How did you find out about them? Are you sure you're not engaging in paranoid delusion?
I don't understand your comment. The last "mini ice age" was in the early middle ages, far before climatology or anything approximating it existed. Could you characterize what you mean there being a frenzy, and identify some of the related publications/records associated with it?
Call it informing the ignorant if you'd like to do so.
I love how you give us your personal conclusions instead of the evidence that lead to those conclusions. Thanks for that, it's so helpful and meaningful to the discussion.
When exactly did Neil deGrasse Tyson become the world's official representative on all things astronomical? Was it the the pluto thing? It's just really weird that every media outlet seems to go to him for everything these days. He's really articulate and informed, but so are a lot of people. I don't get it.
If you're worried about contaminated fish, worry about mercury, from fossil fuel usage. Eating fish every day is basically a no-no these days thanks to the LACK of nuclear power.
If you have to choose between clearly dangerous infection vector and updating ancient and fragile legacy java applets, I'd say Mozilla is the least of your problems.
Does MaBell sound familiar? Standard oil? Microsoft? It's not unprecedented that people in the United States have been royally screwed by trusts, and the feds breaking them up improved the situation for everyone.
This is a good point, but on the other hand engaging in risky behavior cannot and should not make you responsible for the people who unscrupulously take advantage of that risky behavior. The culpability always lies in the hands of those who actually engage in wrongful conduct. Blaming victims is a horrible thing to do, and you should re-examine your position considering that point.
I agree that it would help a lot if people in general had a greater understanding of the persistence and availability of information they choose to publish, but that does not make them TO BLAME for people who abuse that information.
Well it's OBVIOUSLY your fault for wanting to purchase a low-margin item that can't have a warranty upsell attached. Next you'll want a power strip that isn't also a router. Can't you be reasonable and spend $75 on a shiny looking mouse that doesn't suit your needs?
Yeah, this is what makes this so unsurprising to me. Best buy no longer seems interested in selling me useful things I want, but instead, hooking their talons into those purchases and loading it down with as much margin at my expense they can manage.
Every employee in their store is dedicated to upsells, rather than actually helping you find something or in the case of "geek squad", providing tech support. I go to stores because I'm interested in buying something, not because I want to be sold something.
These tactics probably boosted quarterly earnings the first couple quarters, but now the mere name of the store is a red light in my brain.
Part of scientific endeavor is getting it wrong, and testing again to make sure. It seems like the mistakes that happened were minor, technical, and easy to miss. It would be a very different manner if the problems had been from operational carelessness or intentional fabrication, but I can't actually see any wrongdoing here.
Yep. I was interested, until this article came up. Now? I'll buy something else from some publisher that's not horrible. And I'll recommend against a purchase to everyone I know. I'm a frequent game buyer, but not for crap like this.
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How about we hold people liable when we discover they actually violate a particular copyright, rather than trying to extent tort coverage to criminal concepts like "aiding and abetting". Seriously.
Uh, so?
The United States doesn't exactly have a history of shying away from more weapons of any kind.
I'm not being hyperbolic. Lack of vaccination is literally proportionate murder in my eyes. That reflects a just if you drained 1/5th the blood to kill a person, and the next 4 people came along and did the same. There's a direct liability, and I see an ethical failing in ignoring it.
Yes, but in those cases, those people make CHOICES that directly instigate the harm, and can be held accountable. Here the harm is purely statistical in nature, and the instigators are those who choose to create the risk. Hence liability law. You're actively endorsing the death of other people. You're just happy about it.
There's one expert there, which is impressive, far more than most pointless climate petitions. Thomas Wysmuller appears to be responsible for at least 10 or 20 presentations on the subject of how climate change is "false", but oddly enough, not one real factual, data driven, peer reviewed paper published in any journal or anything.
How odd, you'd think such an expert who had such strong opinions and spent so much time on the subject would have, some, you know, research they produced. Nope. I see several distinct "alternate" theories with his name attached, some of which somehow manage to contradict each other in general terms.
It's like he's throwing his name behind every single thing that is opposed to anthropogenic climate change without actually being informed. How bizarre.
I'm glad you found an excuse to justify the intentional murder of other human beings. It's always nice to see horrible inhuman monsters who feel they have the moral high ground.
The consequences delineated in the article are the inevitable consequence of non-vaccination by a statistically significant portion of the populace. That's just the nature of diseases.
I will look into this. Thanks for the suggestion.
Didn't we just get a big article about how cancer related publications are not trustworthy? Why do we trust this one?
This, to me, might well be the final straw. What can I do to reverse this? I'm not apathetic, I'm willing to work to change this, but thanks to the majority of the voting public, I feel the simplest solutions will not work. What can I do to stop this?
What were the other predictions? How do they relate to scientific observation? How did you find out about them? Are you sure you're not engaging in paranoid delusion?
I don't understand your comment. The last "mini ice age" was in the early middle ages, far before climatology or anything approximating it existed. Could you characterize what you mean there being a frenzy, and identify some of the related publications/records associated with it?
Call it informing the ignorant if you'd like to do so.
I love how you give us your personal conclusions instead of the evidence that lead to those conclusions. Thanks for that, it's so helpful and meaningful to the discussion.
Please list below any advancements since 1994 that seriously reduced resource consumption. I can't think of any.
I don't know what the obvious answer is. Really. Please tell me.
When exactly did Neil deGrasse Tyson become the world's official representative on all things astronomical? Was it the the pluto thing? It's just really weird that every media outlet seems to go to him for everything these days. He's really articulate and informed, but so are a lot of people. I don't get it.
If you're worried about contaminated fish, worry about mercury, from fossil fuel usage. Eating fish every day is basically a no-no these days thanks to the LACK of nuclear power.
If you have to choose between clearly dangerous infection vector and updating ancient and fragile legacy java applets, I'd say Mozilla is the least of your problems.
Does MaBell sound familiar? Standard oil? Microsoft? It's not unprecedented that people in the United States have been royally screwed by trusts, and the feds breaking them up improved the situation for everyone.
This is a good point, but on the other hand engaging in risky behavior cannot and should not make you responsible for the people who unscrupulously take advantage of that risky behavior. The culpability always lies in the hands of those who actually engage in wrongful conduct. Blaming victims is a horrible thing to do, and you should re-examine your position considering that point.
I agree that it would help a lot if people in general had a greater understanding of the persistence and availability of information they choose to publish, but that does not make them TO BLAME for people who abuse that information.
Well it's OBVIOUSLY your fault for wanting to purchase a low-margin item that can't have a warranty upsell attached. Next you'll want a power strip that isn't also a router. Can't you be reasonable and spend $75 on a shiny looking mouse that doesn't suit your needs?
Yeah, this is what makes this so unsurprising to me. Best buy no longer seems interested in selling me useful things I want, but instead, hooking their talons into those purchases and loading it down with as much margin at my expense they can manage.
Every employee in their store is dedicated to upsells, rather than actually helping you find something or in the case of "geek squad", providing tech support. I go to stores because I'm interested in buying something, not because I want to be sold something.
These tactics probably boosted quarterly earnings the first couple quarters, but now the mere name of the store is a red light in my brain.
I did. I will tender my Slashdot resignation immediately. The editors should get to it in 5-10 years.
Part of scientific endeavor is getting it wrong, and testing again to make sure. It seems like the mistakes that happened were minor, technical, and easy to miss. It would be a very different manner if the problems had been from operational carelessness or intentional fabrication, but I can't actually see any wrongdoing here.
I can't imagine what circumstances would lead that to be a common occurrence for you.
Yep. I was interested, until this article came up. Now? I'll buy something else from some publisher that's not horrible. And I'll recommend against a purchase to everyone I know. I'm a frequent game buyer, but not for crap like this.