I dunno about this who thing. Verpamil is a common drug. Diabetes is a common problem. There exists data sets from the big insurers, systems like Kaiser and those nasty socialists, the Scandinavians, who have had computerized medical records for decades. It would seem easy to ask the question 'Are the glucose (or better yet Hemoglobin A1c) levels) among patients taking verapamil and different from similar patients not taking the drug.
You could get some pretty good data pretty quick. You would still need to do the prospective study, but you could get an idea if it made sense to go further.
Of course, they could have done such a study - these puff piece articles aren't of the highest caliber.
Well, this isn't quite a new low in first posts. After all, Golden Girls, Gaping nether parts and blatant misspellings are just rampant in our attempt to be the first to reply to these important and challenging topics.
But the drug's name, verapamil, is the 13th word in TFS. How long does that take to read?
Christianity has had a reformation(several actually), Islam has had none.
Which isn't true at all. Islam has gone through many twists and turns and in fact, there are a number of competing 'versions' of Islam duking it out at present. Can't look it up at the moment, but there is an article in The Atlantic online that speaks to that. Plenty of other references as well.
Personally, I think they're all insane, but I;m obviously a minority.
The cost to isolate a tailings pile for, say, 1000 years is significant. Probably on the order of 10% of total costs (concrete dams rather than earthen, decent overburden covering) - so pennies, but a lot of them. Still and all reasonable but likely only in a country with a strong rule of law and strong environmental enforcement. China gets a pass on both - at least for the moment.
IIRC, doubling rare earth costs would increase the average electronic device by a couple of dollars - small, but not insignificant especially given the margins on these things. And if some country is holding down costs for whatever reason, they will win the short term economic race.
In the US we have these things which do pretty much that. I'm sure similar vessels exist in other areas. And these are tiny little things compared with what the oil industry uses to move rigs around and maintain them.
Remember the blowout preventer on the Deepwater Horizon mess? It was over 50 feet tall and was placed on the bottom of the ocean at a depth of 1600 meters. The technology is there, it's a matter of whether it is economically feasible to utilize it.
The problem isn't the engineering per se. It's getting the costs of the necessary engineering down to a level that makes this economically viable. They probably won't succeed (most similar installations have yet to) but they probably will learn something. And perhaps they will manage it - it certainly doesn't involve any higher grade technology than your average deep sea drilling rig or LNG floating production system.
Powered ocean-going ships solved the problem of operating steel machinery in saltwater a long time ago, with a combination of paint and galvanic anodes.
For fairly low values of 'solved'. Boats and especially submarines (which is what these things are to some degree) are cranky and expensive of maintenance. Few people realize this, but the term 'boat' is really an acronym (Bring On Another Thousand).
Posted, amusingly enough, from my sailboat, on which I am fighting yet another chapter in the endless war between salt water and any man made material.
Barnacles and other creatures will destroy any underwater machinery. There is no solution to keeping these buggers off anything that remains submerged for long enough.
Bah, you can fix any marine electrical problem with enough WD-40.
...why? Insurance? In my city the entire subway system is automated, and the Space Shuttle could have flown entirely without pilots. But we must hero worship test pilots for some reason. I mean does a roller coaster have a pilot or just a minimum wage operator that presses buttons on the ground?
Forty years ago, this same "evidence" was used to gin up the coming "Ice Age." Now, the same evidence is used to gin up the coming "Global Inferno."
Utter and complete bullshit which is why you deniers always get tossed into the intellectual dustbin.
A few people were concerned that we might be going back into another ice age. There was some suggestive data . It was never accepted by most climatologists. Unlike the current situation where the vast majority of professionals agree on the general outlines of the issue.
Fell free to espouse your intellectual superiority over thousands of professional scientists. Who, unlike yourself, realize that they can be wrong and are still working actively to figure out the details. And surprise, some of the things we think will happen aren't going to. And some things we think won't happen will.
But it's not made up, it's not a conspiracy to piss you off or get more grant funds. It's not even a conspiracy to get the little countries of the world some power over the big industrial powers. It's just complicated physics.
I'm going to suggest that we all boycott this story and wait until the next installment of Apple vs. Somebody Else before we chip in with our insightful and unique comments.
Actually, if we spent the tax money to create adequate, accessible and well equipped libraries in these areas we would arguably create more opportunities for local residents to advance in the world.
Encouraging people to read and learn in a somewhat structured environment has to be better than allowing them to watch reruns of honey-boo-boo gratis or even wasting time on lowlife sites like Slashdot.
Slashdot Mirror
No, type I, ONE you damned keyboard. ONE. 1.
Oh, that kind of moderation.
Would never occur to me to use the work in that particular context.
Type II.
I dunno about this who thing. Verpamil is a common drug. Diabetes is a common problem. There exists data sets from the big insurers, systems like Kaiser and those nasty socialists, the Scandinavians, who have had computerized medical records for decades. It would seem easy to ask the question 'Are the glucose (or better yet Hemoglobin A1c) levels) among patients taking verapamil and different from similar patients not taking the drug.
You could get some pretty good data pretty quick. You would still need to do the prospective study, but you could get an idea if it made sense to go further.
Of course, they could have done such a study - these puff piece articles aren't of the highest caliber.
Well, this isn't quite a new low in first posts. After all, Golden Girls, Gaping nether parts and blatant misspellings are just rampant in our attempt to be the first to reply to these important and challenging topics.
But the drug's name, verapamil, is the 13th word in TFS. How long does that take to read?
Slow down Cowboy! We're here all day!
Paperboy?
Bonus?
Are these English words?
Nobody summoned you this time. It was just snoring.
All the land between low tide and high tide is public land. But right behind that is open season.
Patience is a virtue.
Christianity has had a reformation(several actually), Islam has had none.
Which isn't true at all. Islam has gone through many twists and turns and in fact, there are a number of competing 'versions' of Islam duking it out at present. Can't look it up at the moment, but there is an article in The Atlantic online that speaks to that. Plenty of other references as well.
Personally, I think they're all insane, but I;m obviously a minority.
The cost to isolate a tailings pile for, say, 1000 years is significant. Probably on the order of 10% of total costs (concrete dams rather than earthen, decent overburden covering) - so pennies, but a lot of them. Still and all reasonable but likely only in a country with a strong rule of law and strong environmental enforcement. China gets a pass on both - at least for the moment.
IIRC, doubling rare earth costs would increase the average electronic device by a couple of dollars - small, but not insignificant especially given the margins on these things. And if some country is holding down costs for whatever reason, they will win the short term economic race.
You assume that a 1MW generator won't generate 1MW....based on what exactly?
Murphy's Law?
In the US we have these things which do pretty much that. I'm sure similar vessels exist in other areas. And these are tiny little things compared with what the oil industry uses to move rigs around and maintain them.
Remember the blowout preventer on the Deepwater Horizon mess? It was over 50 feet tall and was placed on the bottom of the ocean at a depth of 1600 meters. The technology is there, it's a matter of whether it is economically feasible to utilize it.
On the Internet, no one knows that you're a goldfish.
The problem isn't the engineering per se. It's getting the costs of the necessary engineering down to a level that makes this economically viable. They probably won't succeed (most similar installations have yet to) but they probably will learn something. And perhaps they will manage it - it certainly doesn't involve any higher grade technology than your average deep sea drilling rig or LNG floating production system.
Powered ocean-going ships solved the problem of operating steel machinery in saltwater a long time ago, with a combination of paint and galvanic anodes.
For fairly low values of 'solved'. Boats and especially submarines (which is what these things are to some degree) are cranky and expensive of maintenance. Few people realize this, but the term 'boat' is really an acronym (Bring On Another Thousand).
Posted, amusingly enough, from my sailboat, on which I am fighting yet another chapter in the endless war between salt water and any man made material.
Barnacles and other creatures will destroy any underwater machinery. There is no solution to keeping these buggers off anything that remains submerged for long enough.
Bah, you can fix any marine electrical problem with enough WD-40.
Look, if the President isn't getting any, how much hope do you think there is for the rest of us?
...why? Insurance? In my city the entire subway system is automated, and the Space Shuttle could have flown entirely without pilots. But we must hero worship test pilots for some reason. I mean does a roller coaster have a pilot or just a minimum wage operator that presses buttons on the ground?
Because
TL;DR- planes aren't subways
Little squares. That's the future of computing.
Now that's a pretty dystopian world. Worse than Blade Runner.
Why are people so busy trying to kill each other?
Video games.
Sarah Palin came close.
Just because it's your worst nightmare doesn't mean you should discount the possibility completely.
Forty years ago, this same "evidence" was used to gin up the coming "Ice Age." Now, the same evidence is used to gin up the coming "Global Inferno."
Utter and complete bullshit which is why you deniers always get tossed into the intellectual dustbin.
A few people were concerned that we might be going back into another ice age. There was some suggestive data . It was never accepted by most climatologists. Unlike the current situation where the vast majority of professionals agree on the general outlines of the issue.
Fell free to espouse your intellectual superiority over thousands of professional scientists. Who, unlike yourself, realize that they can be wrong and are still working actively to figure out the details. And surprise, some of the things we think will happen aren't going to. And some things we think won't happen will.
But it's not made up, it's not a conspiracy to piss you off or get more grant funds. It's not even a conspiracy to get the little countries of the world some power over the big industrial powers. It's just complicated physics.
I'm going to suggest that we all boycott this story and wait until the next installment of Apple vs. Somebody Else before we chip in with our insightful and unique comments.
Just because it's equally plausible that she's a moron, they rule out malice? What kind of razor is that?
Double edged?
You sure you're not confusing VB6 with Lotus Notes?
Actually, if we spent the tax money to create adequate, accessible and well equipped libraries in these areas we would arguably create more opportunities for local residents to advance in the world.
Encouraging people to read and learn in a somewhat structured environment has to be better than allowing them to watch reruns of honey-boo-boo gratis or even wasting time on lowlife sites like Slashdot.