Maybe Google does this already, but if a site isn't playing nicely then hit them where it counts, right in their page rank. Rank them lower on search results for a given topic and kick them off of news.google.com. I'm looking at you National Post, Huffington Post and Wall Street Journal - damn you and your auto play videos and your full page blockup ads.
Cookies - if a user has them disabled they can't login to quite a few sites until they turn them back on. (Sure session id's can be attached to headers, but that has other security issues) IE 6 & 7- check.
Privacy settings, if locked down as secure as one can make it, this will filter or block 90% (source: thin air) of the web. IE7 & 8 - check. Get the idea, irrelevant stat notwithstanding?
This new "Untrackable" option, if turned on, will prevent you from viewing 90% of the web - eventually. How long will it take developers to add in the same functionality, hacks and patches that make Privacy Settings and disabling Cookies useless?
I flat out refuse to pay $30/mo to babysit. That is all you have suggested I do. It has turned from a "pay to play" to a "pay to babysit" scenario. I refuse. As much as I would like to play WoW - forget it./ignore = babysit this little brat./ban = babysit that little brat./report = babysitting
What is so hard to understand about that? I don't pay to babysit... I should get paid to do it.
I spent 2 1/2 hours taking screen shots and writing up reports that took a week to be reviewed and in the end that player was sent a polite little letter asking them not to behave like that again.
I played for about 5 hours a week - max - on a slow week.
forget it. it's not worth it.
Blizzard et al. will continue to cater to these foul mouthed brats because they pay. The rest of us don't/won't waste our time.
If Blizzard did somehow clean up their servers for the rest of us they would have to kick those brats off and then where would they be? Trying to convince us to come back? I don't think so. It's stupid incarnate in there and far worse than a daycare...
children babysitting children... because they refuse to pay for daycare staff.
Why would Blizzard et al. even bother to try to clean it up when it's exactly those same idiots that they're making the money off of? Why should Blizzard pay staff to kick paying customers off of the servers? So they can loose money to loose more money? Once word got out that there were 'secret WoW police" wandering about handing out suspensions things might improve... but I doubt it.
I would encourage everyone to vote with their feet and quit playing all together.
Being a big fan of Wordpress I did some digging for you.
Bennett McElwee, has a Wordpress plugin that gives you more control over the appearance of your code in your posts. You can get it here. There is also an "alternatives" section near the bottom of the page listing four more plugins that do similar work in different ways depending on your needs. (How cool is that?)
Wordpress does have a very basic code formatting button for posts, but not for comments. As usual, there is already a plugin that solves that problem too.
As for practices, two things that I would recommend right away is to use plenty of backups during your design process. Also, sketch your designs on paper first and reference those sketches often. Keep a sketch book and a pen on you at all times. You never know when inspiration will hit.
As for learning CSS do a web search for "css tutorial", "css tags" and then work your way through each and every css tag. Give yourself an excuse to use each of them. Using them is the best way to learn how to use them.
Then start checking out the style sheets for web pages you come across that grab your attention. Figure out how they did something and that's a pretty good way to learn. (Just don't go ripping off someone elses stylesheets).
On an aside, why hasn't the topic of javascript popped up yet? (pardon the pun).
I'm crazy about anything that works as it is meant to. Be it a cell phone or a word processor. If we're going to talk about cell phones, I want a cell phone. Period. I already have a digital camera, I already have an MP3 player, I already have a laptop. I don't need nor do I want a cell phone that does any of those things half assed. I want a cell phone that sends and receives phone calls. If I want to take a picture I'll use my camera. If I want to listen to music I'll use my MP3 player. Trying to sell me an all-in-one Is like trying to sell me a half assed camera, a half assed MP3 player and a half assed phone. I don't want a half assed anything!
Give me a bomb proof cell phone that gets reception in my basement and I'll buy it. Until then, leave a message and I'll call you back.
Thank you Tatsh for taking the time to give us a thoughtful review of your experiences as a computer sciences student in high school. I thought I would give you the experiences of someone who is twice your age for contrast.
When I was in grade 6 the Commodore VIC 20 had just come out. I got one for christmas that year and promptly signed up for an adult learning class in the Basic programming language. I succeeded in besting all my class mates though all 4 levels. And those were the ones who had experience and who were already working in the field.
Computer science was not offered in my school until grade 9. In those classes we learnt Word, and basic spreadsheets. But we also learnt structured programming in basic, machine, assembly and Pascal. It was in this class that I found peers who had studied on their own with home computers. We found the class to be lacking and all of us (there were 6 in my group) carried an average of 110% - including bonus work.
By the end of grade 10 our in class work consisted of writing up our resume in Word. Seriously, we could have programmed our own word processor at that time.
BUT our bonus work was to program a boxing game, a musical keyboard, and a trivia gave - all in basic or machine.
By grade 11 the first programmable calculators came out. What a joke.
By grade 12 the offers and the scholarships started coming in fast and furious. I was offered a scholarship of $50,000 to study computer assisted advertising (now known as graphic design or communications) at a college in Washington. A friend of mine joined the military as a program analyst. A third stayed in town and went to Devry. We all could have taught the classes we were supposed to be studying.
Needless to say, we all did quite well in our chosen fields. I was making $60k a year - 6 months before I graduated university. One of my friends was already working during his last year in engineering and his company paid a secretary to go to his classes and take notes for him.
This was all made possible by a teacher in our high school who was willing to assign projects that challenged us, inspired us and let us explore the capabilities of the computers we had access to. We did the work on our own time, but our A++ grades really got the attention of some big schools.
I wonder how much of the lack of experience in programming this topic is concerned with has to do with the program offered by schools, and how much of it has to do with the individual teachers willing to push their students and how much is it up to the students to push themselves?
Is there a teacher out there that can respond to that question? Can Tatsh respond to that question? I would really like to know.
It seems to me that leaving this issue until after primary development was over and starting to work on it only after the first beta was released isn't saying that it is an important issue. At least, it wasn't an important enough issue to include it on the list of issues they wanted to deal with in primary development. This tells me one of two things. Either their list of issues was just too long for CSS to be included near the top or they didn't give it significant weight to place it near the top of the list.
If there is a third option I would like to entertain it. It seems to me that the first is possible, given I.E.'s sordid past. Taking the quotes I mentioned into account it seems to me that the second is more likely. Both may very well be true.
"So how many browsers are fully CSS 2 compliant then?"
I will assume this is a rhetorical question, by which you mean to highlight the fact that no browser is 100% CSS2.0 compliant. I'm not here to argue all browsers.
I am arguing the lack thereof where I.E. is concerned. This was the topic of the original question heading this thread. I didn't want someone walking away from this comments thread believing that by some miracle I.E. is now CSS compliant - it is not. The post to which I responded was misleading in specifically that respect. It lead the reader to believe that I.E. was in fact compliant to CSS 2.0 standards.
I stand by my response. It is not.
Choosing to call Microsoft - "M$" - as you pointed out, is a tad immature I'll grant you that point and revel in my own immaturity. At my age it's somewhat flattering.
If the entire point of my post was to highlight the fact that I.E. 7.0 will not be 100% CSS 2.0 compliant I would like to call upon your own argument and to you I ask rhetorically, "So how many browsers are fully CSS 2 compliant then?"
Nope, I.E. still isn't either. Let's not mislead anyone here by arguing otherwise.
I stand corrected on my immaturity, but I will hold fast to my original arguement. I.E. 7.0 is not CSS 2.0 compliant and MS has specifically shown that they have no interest implementing CSS 2.0 - 100%. But then, not all browsers are created equal, which means some cut the mustard and some don't. And to my knowledge no browser is CSS 2.1 compliant either so lest not banter on about that. Nor can we argue about 3.0 yet.
For example, text-shadow is not supported by any browser nor are any of the text to speech ideas (eg, speak, pitch, voice, etc..)
So in reesponse, we have discovered that I.E. is not CSS standard compliant. Great. Can we move on. What else would you like to add to the arguement?
You are quoting somebody saying that their first priority is what their customers ask for, not that they don't care at all about compliance. Try comprehending before quoting.
I did, I do, and I stand by my position. Here is another rhetorical question for you, "What do you think the average computer user knows about CSS standards and the lack of support I.E. shows?"
And to highlight my position I would like to take a survey of 1000 apples and ask them what they think about pulp-free orange juice.
If MS cared about CSS standards they wouldn't be bowing to the demands of their customers (to wit they admit they develop their software to meet the demands of the lowest common denominator). They would be meeting the requests of designers and developers who do care about such things. Let's face it, the demands of Netizen X are such that they want to see a nice web page. They don't care how they see it so long as they see it. Why bother asking them what they want in CSS standard support? How many of them even know what CSS stands for? How many of them even care? (Again, rhetorical questions).
Let's compare apples to apples and keep the low brow personal pot shots out of the arguement thankyou.
Can I call BS on that? Rhetoric, all of it and I quote from your above post on the MS IE Blog, "I wanted to make it clear that we know Beta 1 makes little progress for web developers in improving our standards support, particularly in our CSS implementation. I feel badly about this, but we have been focused on how to get the most done overall for IE7, so due to our lead time for locking down beta releases and ramping up our team, we could not get a whole lot done in the platform in beta 1. However, I know this will be better in Beta 2 "
I would like to point out that the above post is dated July 29th, 2005.
Half of the problems with IE's implementation of CSS (from a designers POV) is that they insist on sticking us with defaults other than 0, none, or off. As far as they're concerned they're not bugs - they're features.
The comments you pointed out only highlight MS's opinion that the situation with CSS has very low priority. A very low priority indeed.
According to eWeek.com, "Sources claiming familiarity with Microsoft's IE 7.0 plans said the company will add some additional CSS2 support to its new standalone browser. But Microsoft isn't planning to go the whole way and make IE 7.0 fully CSS2 compliant, sources said."
Of course, one site, 465BeraStreet.com can even wag a finger @ MS for fixing bugs at all, "When Internet Explorer 7 is released, probably later this year, it looks like one long-standing CSS selector bug in IE will be fixed: the Star html Selector Bug, also known as the Tan hack. Since the bug has been used by many web developers to target specific CSS rules at Internet Explorer as a way of working around various CSS bugs in the browser, some are worried that Microsoft fixing the bug in IE 7 may cause developers a lot of extra work."
And to highlight my point that M$ just doesn't care at all about CSS standards or compliancy thereof, CNet quotes Greg Sullivan, of the Windows client group as saying, "While it is true that our implementation is not fully, 100 percent W3C-compliant, our development investments are driven by our customer requirements and not necessarily by standards"
If they can't get around to it until after Alpha/Beta releases to fix issues they've known about for years now and because they themselves say that it isn't a priority to even try to meet the standards, No, I don't expect M$ to give any priority to the problems with CSS where I.E. 7.0 is concerned.
The worst, however, as highlighted above, Microsoft's utter lack of response to the issues in the past has now lead to a situation where any action to do anything positive would swamp designers with so much back-peddling to remove all their I.E. 5.5 hacks that new hacks would have to be implemented to cover up old hacks that are covering up old hacks... all because they didn't do anything earlier and still refuse to do anything about it now.
No my friends, CSS and IE will not be reconcicled - not now, not ever. They missed the boat.
Staples will have the online mail in rebate thing in place before Best Buy. It's already available in Canada for some stores. They are also working on a guaranteed rebate system so if you are declined on your mail in version, you can take your proof of denial in to the store and they will settle it right there.
I have shopped at Best Buy once. I avoided buying anything with a "rebate" and the experience was clouded by some guy, probably paid, pumping up their prices to customers all over the store. I moved from section to section and heard his same spiel three times. No thank you.
Now I go to my local computer parts vendor and say hey, BB has this thing on sale for $210 after savings and a $40 mail in rebate (reg. $275). I ask my local merchant what he'll sell it to me for? He says he'll sell it to me for $220 (regular $285). I say sold. Why? I'm willing to pay the $10 so I don't have to go to Best Buy ever again and my local merchant has never offered me a mail in ripoff or rebate or whatver you want to call it. He also greets me by my first name and let's me know if anything exciting has come in recently. There are no lineups, I never have a problem returning something, and there are no mystery shoppers paid to pump up his prices. Yeah, I pay 3%-10% more than at BB. I think it's worth it and it must be working. He just opened a third store.
The funny thing is that Staples, Future Shop, etc... usually have the same price or at the least a price matching guarantee. I agree with the owner of Best Buy, if the comments here are any indication, his customers are idiots. Shop local.
You just made me wonder why the RIAA hasn't targeted any high profile corporate law types. You know, the kind who have the time, money and friends to be a serious opponent.
Kind of like the winners of the super bowl bullying a Jr. High School football team.
Now there's a point you should bring up at the next Google and Sun shareholders meetings. And while were at it, how many of their shareholders are also shareholders in the about-to-be-named companies? And how many of those about-to-be-named companies are in competition with Sun and/or Google? And how much can I pay Sun and/or Google to keep my badware company off the list?
This is just more crapware developed to exploit already existing crapware. Excuse me while I go and write new crapware to exploit their crapware that's about to exploit my old crapware.
I agree. I do a lot of graphic work and have to say that the GIMP is capable of everything that Photoshop is. Sometimes it may take longer, sometimes it is shorter. They're very different creatures. I used Photoshop for two years. I've been using GIMP for two years.
I really hope I don't ever have to go back to Photoshop.
No, you don't have to pay $ for anything, often. But it is recommended that you donate or participate in the testing, documentation, help forums etc... You don't necessairly pay $ for it, but you do pay in your time and expertise - something people generally have more of than $ - at least, in the Linux world. In the MS world, things are the other way around. In the MS world you pay for your lack of expertise and time and willingly so aparently.
Ironic, considering that it doesn't take long for a user to become comfortable in Linux - especially when Gnome and KDE are so easy to use. Heck, even my wife can find her way around a KDE desktop now.
It was covered by CNN. BBC reports the temperature on Pluto as 229 degrees (on the kids info pages). Weather.com has no listings for pluto. It must have been a very slow news day for CNN.
I'll bet that AP reporter makes wicked $$ from CNN and Time. While the guy who writes the unbiased truth is sitting in his 2 bedroom apartment, with 5 roomates, patched jeans and a 333Mhz laptop hoping to sell a bit... any day now.
Slashdot Mirror
Canadians (and anyone who isn't a'Murican) are already bracing for the inevitable, "Not available in your country" error message.
Maybe Google does this already, but if a site isn't playing nicely then hit them where it counts, right in their page rank. Rank them lower on search results for a given topic and kick them off of news.google.com. I'm looking at you National Post, Huffington Post and Wall Street Journal - damn you and your auto play videos and your full page blockup ads.
Cookies - if a user has them disabled they can't login to quite a few sites until they turn them back on. (Sure session id's can be attached to headers, but that has other security issues) IE 6 & 7- check. Privacy settings, if locked down as secure as one can make it, this will filter or block 90% (source: thin air) of the web. IE7 & 8 - check. Get the idea, irrelevant stat notwithstanding? This new "Untrackable" option, if turned on, will prevent you from viewing 90% of the web - eventually. How long will it take developers to add in the same functionality, hacks and patches that make Privacy Settings and disabling Cookies useless?
I flat out refuse to pay $30/mo to babysit. That is all you have suggested I do. It has turned from a "pay to play" to a "pay to babysit" scenario. I refuse. As much as I would like to play WoW - forget it. /ignore = babysit this little brat. /ban = babysit that little brat. /report = babysitting
What is so hard to understand about that? I don't pay to babysit... I should get paid to do it.
I spent 2 1/2 hours taking screen shots and writing up reports that took a week to be reviewed and in the end that player was sent a polite little letter asking them not to behave like that again.
I played for about 5 hours a week - max - on a slow week.
forget it. it's not worth it.
Blizzard et al. will continue to cater to these foul mouthed brats because they pay. The rest of us don't/won't waste our time.
If Blizzard did somehow clean up their servers for the rest of us they would have to kick those brats off and then where would they be? Trying to convince us to come back? I don't think so. It's stupid incarnate in there and far worse than a daycare...
children babysitting children... because they refuse to pay for daycare staff.
Why would Blizzard et al. even bother to try to clean it up when it's exactly those same idiots that they're making the money off of? Why should Blizzard pay staff to kick paying customers off of the servers? So they can loose money to loose more money? Once word got out that there were 'secret WoW police" wandering about handing out suspensions things might improve... but I doubt it.
I would encourage everyone to vote with their feet and quit playing all together.
Being a big fan of Wordpress I did some digging for you.
Bennett McElwee, has a Wordpress plugin that gives you more control over the appearance of your code in your posts. You can get it here. There is also an "alternatives" section near the bottom of the page listing four more plugins that do similar work in different ways depending on your needs. (How cool is that?)
Wordpress does have a very basic code formatting button for posts, but not for comments. As usual, there is already a plugin that solves that problem too.
One word.... TILT
As for practices, two things that I would recommend right away is to use plenty of backups during your design process. Also, sketch your designs on paper first and reference those sketches often. Keep a sketch book and a pen on you at all times. You never know when inspiration will hit.
As for learning CSS do a web search for "css tutorial", "css tags" and then work your way through each and every css tag. Give yourself an excuse to use each of them. Using them is the best way to learn how to use them.
Then start checking out the style sheets for web pages you come across that grab your attention. Figure out how they did something and that's a pretty good way to learn. (Just don't go ripping off someone elses stylesheets).
On an aside, why hasn't the topic of javascript popped up yet? (pardon the pun).
I'm crazy about anything that works as it is meant to. Be it a cell phone or a word processor. If we're going to talk about cell phones, I want a cell phone. Period. I already have a digital camera, I already have an MP3 player, I already have a laptop. I don't need nor do I want a cell phone that does any of those things half assed. I want a cell phone that sends and receives phone calls. If I want to take a picture I'll use my camera. If I want to listen to music I'll use my MP3 player. Trying to sell me an all-in-one Is like trying to sell me a half assed camera, a half assed MP3 player and a half assed phone. I don't want a half assed anything!
Give me a bomb proof cell phone that gets reception in my basement and I'll buy it. Until then, leave a message and I'll call you back.
"ExCUSE me? 1985? I had a programmable calculator back in 1976"
;)
Ah, perhaps the word I was looking for was "graphing", not programmable, per se.
And I still haven't grown up.
Thank you Tatsh for taking the time to give us a thoughtful review of your experiences as a computer sciences student in high school. I thought I would give you the experiences of someone who is twice your age for contrast.
When I was in grade 6 the Commodore VIC 20 had just come out. I got one for christmas that year and promptly signed up for an adult learning class in the Basic programming language. I succeeded in besting all my class mates though all 4 levels. And those were the ones who had experience and who were already working in the field.
Computer science was not offered in my school until grade 9. In those classes we learnt Word, and basic spreadsheets. But we also learnt structured programming in basic, machine, assembly and Pascal. It was in this class that I found peers who had studied on their own with home computers. We found the class to be lacking and all of us (there were 6 in my group) carried an average of 110% - including bonus work.
By the end of grade 10 our in class work consisted of writing up our resume in Word. Seriously, we could have programmed our own word processor at that time.
BUT our bonus work was to program a boxing game, a musical keyboard, and a trivia gave - all in basic or machine.
By grade 11 the first programmable calculators came out. What a joke.
By grade 12 the offers and the scholarships started coming in fast and furious. I was offered a scholarship of $50,000 to study computer assisted advertising (now known as graphic design or communications) at a college in Washington. A friend of mine joined the military as a program analyst. A third stayed in town and went to Devry. We all could have taught the classes we were supposed to be studying.
Needless to say, we all did quite well in our chosen fields. I was making $60k a year - 6 months before I graduated university. One of my friends was already working during his last year in engineering and his company paid a secretary to go to his classes and take notes for him.
This was all made possible by a teacher in our high school who was willing to assign projects that challenged us, inspired us and let us explore the capabilities of the computers we had access to. We did the work on our own time, but our A++ grades really got the attention of some big schools.
I wonder how much of the lack of experience in programming this topic is concerned with has to do with the program offered by schools, and how much of it has to do with the individual teachers willing to push their students and how much is it up to the students to push themselves?
Is there a teacher out there that can respond to that question? Can Tatsh respond to that question? I would really like to know.
I found this in the footer of the Shuttleworth post, "This entry was posted on Friday, November 21st, 2003 at 6:48 pm".
What's up with that?
Good response. I will re-think my position.
It seems to me that leaving this issue until after primary development was over and starting to work on it only after the first beta was released isn't saying that it is an important issue. At least, it wasn't an important enough issue to include it on the list of issues they wanted to deal with in primary development. This tells me one of two things. Either their list of issues was just too long for CSS to be included near the top or they didn't give it significant weight to place it near the top of the list.
If there is a third option I would like to entertain it. It seems to me that the first is possible, given I.E.'s sordid past. Taking the quotes I mentioned into account it seems to me that the second is more likely. Both may very well be true.
Any thoughts?
I think that applies to all departments. Cheers!
"So how many browsers are fully CSS 2 compliant then?"
I will assume this is a rhetorical question, by which you mean to highlight the fact that no browser is 100% CSS2.0 compliant. I'm not here to argue all browsers.
I am arguing the lack thereof where I.E. is concerned. This was the topic of the original question heading this thread. I didn't want someone walking away from this comments thread believing that by some miracle I.E. is now CSS compliant - it is not. The post to which I responded was misleading in specifically that respect. It lead the reader to believe that I.E. was in fact compliant to CSS 2.0 standards.
I stand by my response. It is not.
Choosing to call Microsoft - "M$" - as you pointed out, is a tad immature I'll grant you that point and revel in my own immaturity. At my age it's somewhat flattering.
If the entire point of my post was to highlight the fact that I.E. 7.0 will not be 100% CSS 2.0 compliant I would like to call upon your own argument and to you I ask rhetorically, "So how many browsers are fully CSS 2 compliant then?"
Nope, I.E. still isn't either. Let's not mislead anyone here by arguing otherwise.
I stand corrected on my immaturity, but I will hold fast to my original arguement. I.E. 7.0 is not CSS 2.0 compliant and MS has specifically shown that they have no interest implementing CSS 2.0 - 100%. But then, not all browsers are created equal, which means some cut the mustard and some don't. And to my knowledge no browser is CSS 2.1 compliant either so lest not banter on about that. Nor can we argue about 3.0 yet.
For example, text-shadow is not supported by any browser nor are any of the text to speech ideas (eg, speak, pitch, voice, etc..)
So in reesponse, we have discovered that I.E. is not CSS standard compliant. Great. Can we move on. What else would you like to add to the arguement?
You are quoting somebody saying that their first priority is what their customers ask for, not that they don't care at all about compliance. Try comprehending before quoting.
I did, I do, and I stand by my position. Here is another rhetorical question for you, "What do you think the average computer user knows about CSS standards and the lack of support I.E. shows?"
And to highlight my position I would like to take a survey of 1000 apples and ask them what they think about pulp-free orange juice.
If MS cared about CSS standards they wouldn't be bowing to the demands of their customers (to wit they admit they develop their software to meet the demands of the lowest common denominator). They would be meeting the requests of designers and developers who do care about such things. Let's face it, the demands of Netizen X are such that they want to see a nice web page. They don't care how they see it so long as they see it. Why bother asking them what they want in CSS standard support? How many of them even know what CSS stands for? How many of them even care? (Again, rhetorical questions).
Let's compare apples to apples and keep the low brow personal pot shots out of the arguement thankyou.
Can I call BS on that? Rhetoric, all of it and I quote from your above post on the MS IE Blog, "I wanted to make it clear that we know Beta 1 makes little progress for web developers in improving our standards support, particularly in our CSS implementation. I feel badly about this, but we have been focused on how to get the most done overall for IE7, so due to our lead time for locking down beta releases and ramping up our team, we could not get a whole lot done in the platform in beta 1. However, I know this will be better in Beta 2 "
I would like to point out that the above post is dated July 29th, 2005.
Half of the problems with IE's implementation of CSS (from a designers POV) is that they insist on sticking us with defaults other than 0, none, or off. As far as they're concerned they're not bugs - they're features.
The comments you pointed out only highlight MS's opinion that the situation with CSS has very low priority. A very low priority indeed.
According to eWeek.com, "Sources claiming familiarity with Microsoft's IE 7.0 plans said the company will add some additional CSS2 support to its new standalone browser. But Microsoft isn't planning to go the whole way and make IE 7.0 fully CSS2 compliant, sources said."
Of course, one site, 465BeraStreet.com can even wag a finger @ MS for fixing bugs at all, "When Internet Explorer 7 is released, probably later this year, it looks like one long-standing CSS selector bug in IE will be fixed: the Star html Selector Bug, also known as the Tan hack. Since the bug has been used by many web developers to target specific CSS rules at Internet Explorer as a way of working around various CSS bugs in the browser, some are worried that Microsoft fixing the bug in IE 7 may cause developers a lot of extra work."
And to highlight my point that M$ just doesn't care at all about CSS standards or compliancy thereof, CNet quotes Greg Sullivan, of the Windows client group as saying, "While it is true that our implementation is not fully, 100 percent W3C-compliant, our development investments are driven by our customer requirements and not necessarily by standards"
If they can't get around to it until after Alpha/Beta releases to fix issues they've known about for years now and because they themselves say that it isn't a priority to even try to meet the standards, No, I don't expect M$ to give any priority to the problems with CSS where I.E. 7.0 is concerned.
The worst, however, as highlighted above, Microsoft's utter lack of response to the issues in the past has now lead to a situation where any action to do anything positive would swamp designers with so much back-peddling to remove all their I.E. 5.5 hacks that new hacks would have to be implemented to cover up old hacks that are covering up old hacks... all because they didn't do anything earlier and still refuse to do anything about it now.
No my friends, CSS and IE will not be reconcicled - not now, not ever. They missed the boat.
IMHO.
Staples will have the online mail in rebate thing in place before Best Buy. It's already available in Canada for some stores. They are also working on a guaranteed rebate system so if you are declined on your mail in version, you can take your proof of denial in to the store and they will settle it right there.
I have shopped at Best Buy once. I avoided buying anything with a "rebate" and the experience was clouded by some guy, probably paid, pumping up their prices to customers all over the store. I moved from section to section and heard his same spiel three times. No thank you.
Now I go to my local computer parts vendor and say hey, BB has this thing on sale for $210 after savings and a $40 mail in rebate (reg. $275). I ask my local merchant what he'll sell it to me for? He says he'll sell it to me for $220 (regular $285). I say sold. Why? I'm willing to pay the $10 so I don't have to go to Best Buy ever again and my local merchant has never offered me a mail in ripoff or rebate or whatver you want to call it. He also greets me by my first name and let's me know if anything exciting has come in recently. There are no lineups, I never have a problem returning something, and there are no mystery shoppers paid to pump up his prices. Yeah, I pay 3%-10% more than at BB. I think it's worth it and it must be working. He just opened a third store.
The funny thing is that Staples, Future Shop, etc... usually have the same price or at the least a price matching guarantee. I agree with the owner of Best Buy, if the comments here are any indication, his customers are idiots. Shop local.
You just made me wonder why the RIAA hasn't targeted any high profile corporate law types. You know, the kind who have the time, money and friends to be a serious opponent.
Kind of like the winners of the super bowl bullying a Jr. High School football team.
Now there's a point you should bring up at the next Google and Sun shareholders meetings. And while were at it, how many of their shareholders are also shareholders in the about-to-be-named companies? And how many of those about-to-be-named companies are in competition with Sun and/or Google? And how much can I pay Sun and/or Google to keep my badware company off the list?
This is just more crapware developed to exploit already existing crapware. Excuse me while I go and write new crapware to exploit their crapware that's about to exploit my old crapware.
I agree. I do a lot of graphic work and have to say that the GIMP is capable of everything that Photoshop is. Sometimes it may take longer, sometimes it is shorter. They're very different creatures. I used Photoshop for two years. I've been using GIMP for two years.
I really hope I don't ever have to go back to Photoshop.
No, you don't have to pay $ for anything, often. But it is recommended that you donate or participate in the testing, documentation, help forums etc... You don't necessairly pay $ for it, but you do pay in your time and expertise - something people generally have more of than $ - at least, in the Linux world. In the MS world, things are the other way around. In the MS world you pay for your lack of expertise and time and willingly so aparently.
Ironic, considering that it doesn't take long for a user to become comfortable in Linux - especially when Gnome and KDE are so easy to use. Heck, even my wife can find her way around a KDE desktop now.
It was covered by CNN. BBC reports the temperature on Pluto as 229 degrees (on the kids info pages). Weather.com has no listings for pluto. It must have been a very slow news day for CNN.
Loved that post! Thank you.
I'll bet that AP reporter makes wicked $$ from CNN and Time. While the guy who writes the unbiased truth is sitting in his 2 bedroom apartment, with 5 roomates, patched jeans and a 333Mhz laptop hoping to sell a bit ... any day now.
Uh... is that in metric cubic yards?
This is a result of people petitioning the makers of scientific calculators to remove the calculators ability to render "55378008" on the screen.