“About two weeks ago when I went to cast my vote for homecoming king and queen I had a teacher tell me I would not be allowed to vote because I did not have the proper voter ID,” she said according to WND. “I had my old student ID card which they originally told us would be good for the entire four years we were in school. He said I needed the new ID with the chip in order to vote.”
Lol, I guess I have your dream job then. I guess all the 'bucking the system' and 'arguing with establishment' paid off for me. I get to negotiate with my clients. we set schedules based upon when the work needs done. I do the work where I want to (most of the time, depending on physical limitations of some jobs). If I want to do all the work on the first day, or last day, I can choose to do so. If I don't want to work on Friday, I have the freedom to choose so. Though if someone calls Friday and wants to pay me to work on their problems, I'll probably do that, since I like earning money as much as anyone else.
That's the difference. I'm a skilled laborer with a desired skill set. If I do not like my clients for any reason I can choose not to establish a contract with them, they also can choose not to do business with me.
Most work places are just like school, you have almost no negotiation power, you are told what to do, when and where. Full stop, fuck that. That why, for as long as I can, I'll continue to ranch these unicorns.
The schools side of the story (that they won't say) is that this is a pilot program for 100 other schools, and if it passes there will be some massive kickbacks. If little Bobby Sue doesn't shut up it could really effect someones pocketbook.
Of course since this is a MAGNET school with a specialized program, they (students and parents) CHOSE to attend knowing the rules and conditions. If they find those rules so morally reprehensible, they can choose to attend their regular high school.
This is a pilot program for all the other NON-MAGNET schools in the area. If this shit continues ALL the other public schools in her district will have them, therefore your point is fucking moot.
I don't think these are NFCs. NFCs don't have batteries. From everything stated so far these seem like active RFIDs (they have batteries in the card). Depending on the card many of these can be tracked from 30 to 50 meters (90-150 feet), and give an accuracy with in.3m or about 1 foot.
2) Your kid is smart enough to leave her ID at school and walk out behind someone else.
3) I don't work at a place with RF(IDs). Popularity is a bad measure if something is wrong or right. Work is also voluntary.
4). Agreed, but religion is a hot point, and they are more likely to drum up support and win their case in Texas if they use it. Privacy of not having to wear an active fucking transmitter seems like a much better reason to me.
I carry an ID with me. It doesn't have an active fucking transmitter and battery yelling about who and where I am 24/7. So yes, and active (or even passive) RFID is a totally different thing. Quit arguing the strawmen (your acting just as dumb as they are) when there are real issues with RFID, like yes, being tracked with it.
It's not a simple badge, it's an active transmitter. It is always on, for all the students. They offered her one without a active transmitter if she (paraphrased) shut the fuck up. She's not just standing up for her right to privacy, she's standing up for everybodys, even if they are too fucking dumb to see it.
So you went to a school that told you exactly what to do and when. Then you got a job that told you what to do and when. You also get a wife that tells you what to do and when? Vote in a government that tell us what to do and when? Remember it's not happy freedom, there are terrorists still out there.
This is active RFID with a battery in the students cards. Depending on the number of readers and if the student is sitting still, accuracy can be within a foot.
Active tags can be tracked with a very high degree of accuracy. The only thing that would preclude position tracking would be too few readers, which they can be added to any 'blind' spots.
Where did you sign up to get the barcode tattooed on your head? I mean, how could a system that tracks everybody everywhere possibly be used for wrong? Oh, the next election.
WTF do you do for a living? My guess, based on your responses in this thread is your a teacher, or you sell human cattle tracking systems.
Now what? You don't want to know my answer to those that think it's a good idea to take liberty away from others for a little perceived safety.
It might be a good way of identifying kids who should not be there..., but kids are smarter then you. When 16 year old Bobby' DROP TABLE users; doesn't want to go to school, he'll give give his badge to Donny Rockslinger (who looks somewhat like him) for a day or two so he can push a little dope on campus. Most of this shit isn't there to solve problems, it's there to make mommies and daddies feel unafraid. Big money is made pacifying scared people.
Because the school gets paid if you are there, they do not get paid if you are not. They don't give a damn if you know much (as long as you don't fail too bad), they just want your warm body for a state paycheck.
Well, Well, porn is bad because it has to be, my leaders told me so.
In the meantime, can anyone link any actual scientific studies showing this is the case. Almost everything that I've read so far is 'not enough data for conclusion' or 'other inputs from your environment have a much stronger effect'.
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At least since 2003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/texas-students-rebelling-against-electronic-tracking-cards-now-facing-consequences/
“About two weeks ago when I went to cast my vote for homecoming king and queen I had a teacher tell me I would not be allowed to vote because I did not have the proper voter ID,” she said according to WND. “I had my old student ID card which they originally told us would be good for the entire four years we were in school. He said I needed the new ID with the chip in order to vote.”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/
Everything else points to these being active RFID tags.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/texas-students-rebelling-against-electronic-tracking-cards-now-facing-consequences/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/
Oh yes, and this https://xkcd.com/137/
Lol, I guess I have your dream job then. I guess all the 'bucking the system' and 'arguing with establishment' paid off for me. I get to negotiate with my clients. we set schedules based upon when the work needs done. I do the work where I want to (most of the time, depending on physical limitations of some jobs). If I want to do all the work on the first day, or last day, I can choose to do so. If I don't want to work on Friday, I have the freedom to choose so. Though if someone calls Friday and wants to pay me to work on their problems, I'll probably do that, since I like earning money as much as anyone else.
That's the difference. I'm a skilled laborer with a desired skill set. If I do not like my clients for any reason I can choose not to establish a contract with them, they also can choose not to do business with me.
Most work places are just like school, you have almost no negotiation power, you are told what to do, when and where. Full stop, fuck that. That why, for as long as I can, I'll continue to ranch these unicorns.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/
The schools side of the story (that they won't say) is that this is a pilot program for 100 other schools, and if it passes there will be some massive kickbacks. If little Bobby Sue doesn't shut up it could really effect someones pocketbook.
Because your posts keep getting upvoted I'll post this in every one of them
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/
Doesn't matter if they offered a different fucking school. They will all get RFID tags if this pilot program passes.
Of course since this is a MAGNET school with a specialized program, they (students and parents) CHOSE to attend knowing the rules and conditions. If they find those rules so morally reprehensible, they can choose to attend their regular high school.
This is a pilot program for all the other NON-MAGNET schools in the area. If this shit continues ALL the other public schools in her district will have them, therefore your point is fucking moot.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/
Yet is the key word. Its a pilot for the rest of the schools.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/
Why fight it 'after' it's not a pilot any more?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/texas-students-rebelling-against-electronic-tracking-cards-now-facing-consequences/
This is a pilot program, with 100 more schools in line to get them if it succeeds. Fuck man, google this shit. This IS different.
I don't think these are NFCs. NFCs don't have batteries. From everything stated so far these seem like active RFIDs (they have batteries in the card). Depending on the card many of these can be tracked from 30 to 50 meters (90-150 feet), and give an accuracy with in .3m or about 1 foot.
1) Your ID 20 years ago didn't have active RFID.
2) Your kid is smart enough to leave her ID at school and walk out behind someone else.
3) I don't work at a place with RF(IDs). Popularity is a bad measure if something is wrong or right. Work is also voluntary.
4). Agreed, but religion is a hot point, and they are more likely to drum up support and win their case in Texas if they use it. Privacy of not having to wear an active fucking transmitter seems like a much better reason to me.
I carry an ID with me. It doesn't have an active fucking transmitter and battery yelling about who and where I am 24/7. So yes, and active (or even passive) RFID is a totally different thing. Quit arguing the strawmen (your acting just as dumb as they are) when there are real issues with RFID, like yes, being tracked with it.
http://mycoordinates.org/active-rfid-trilateration-for-indoor-positioning/all/1/
It's not a simple badge, it's an active transmitter. It is always on, for all the students. They offered her one without a active transmitter if she (paraphrased) shut the fuck up. She's not just standing up for her right to privacy, she's standing up for everybodys, even if they are too fucking dumb to see it.
So you went to a school that told you exactly what to do and when. Then you got a job that told you what to do and when. You also get a wife that tells you what to do and when? Vote in a government that tell us what to do and when? Remember it's not happy freedom, there are terrorists still out there.
Cogs in the wheel, watch them turn.
This is active RFID with a battery in the students cards. Depending on the number of readers and if the student is sitting still, accuracy can be within a foot.
http://mycoordinates.org/active-rfid-trilateration-for-indoor-positioning/all/1/
Strike big, you don't know how it works. From the article this tag has a battery so it is an active system...
http://www.rfidc.com/docs/indoor_rfid_tracking.htm
Active tags can be tracked with a very high degree of accuracy. The only thing that would preclude position tracking would be too few readers, which they can be added to any 'blind' spots.
Where did you sign up to get the barcode tattooed on your head? I mean, how could a system that tracks everybody everywhere possibly be used for wrong? Oh, the next election.
WTF do you do for a living? My guess, based on your responses in this thread is your a teacher, or you sell human cattle tracking systems.
Now what? You don't want to know my answer to those that think it's a good idea to take liberty away from others for a little perceived safety.
It's quite unfortunate around here that the only ones who will ever get tenure are the jackasses saying the earth is 6000 years old.
It might be a good way of identifying kids who should not be there..., but kids are smarter then you. When 16 year old Bobby' DROP TABLE users; doesn't want to go to school, he'll give give his badge to Donny Rockslinger (who looks somewhat like him) for a day or two so he can push a little dope on campus. Most of this shit isn't there to solve problems, it's there to make mommies and daddies feel unafraid. Big money is made pacifying scared people.
Because the school gets paid if you are there, they do not get paid if you are not. They don't give a damn if you know much (as long as you don't fail too bad), they just want your warm body for a state paycheck.
When you stereotype a group, you end up making enemies with the entire group.
Last time a guy did that to a group of jews, they tossed him over to the authorities to be nailed to a cross.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/04/cameron_default_isp_filtering/
Wake up man, or at least do a little google-fu, Cameron is all about isp filtering of all sorts.
Well, Well, porn is bad because it has to be, my leaders told me so.
In the meantime, can anyone link any actual scientific studies showing this is the case. Almost everything that I've read so far is 'not enough data for conclusion' or 'other inputs from your environment have a much stronger effect'.