I got in to programming a bit later, probably around 1984... started by typing in those BASIC programs you would get listed in the computer magazines of the day into an already old Atari 800. A few years later (1987) I started getting some formal programming instruction (Intro to Computer Programming in junior high) with LOGO Writer (on an IBM XT) as the tool the class was based around. As a teaching tool, I think it was great for a few reasons:
(1) Instant gratification - the interpreted mode let you move around the 'turtle' and draw on the screen with some simple commands. You have to admit, for a little kid, BASIC provided little in the way of instant gratification when it came to computer graphics.
(2) Early introduction to procedural programming - the GOSUBS and RETUNS in old ROM/Disk BASIC do provide the same type of functionality, but moving on to Pascal (as well as QuickBASIC, and then later C, then C++, etc) was a lot easier having already worked with the more formal structure of LOGOs procedures.
Don't get me wrong - I don't disagree with you at all! I just wanted to point out some additional things that later made me realize that the old turtle wasn't too bad of a teacher after all. Thanks for the memories!
In July of this year, a study (Study: Organic Farming More Efficient) was published that found that organic farming methods can produce up to 3 times more food than more 'conventional' methods... just wanted to add to the debate!
So let's say you go ahead and use IE, Opera, etc... just go over to this website and get a set of host file entries that just redirect this nonsense to your localhost. Works great, you can even use the entries on your IPCop box or the like and protect your whole setup. Just a thought!
There are a lot of things that can be said on either side of this issue - and many are discussed above - but there seems to be a lack of concern regarding the risk that this genetic homogeneity poses to our food supply. If a huge proportion of our livestock are genetically identical, this has to raise the risk of a greater percentage of them falling victim to a pathogenic epidemic at some time in the future. Our (and the animals) genetic diversity is usually a great defence in the face of this type of disease outbreak. I'm sure you can imagine similar risks to our staple grain crops as well.
I'd say join the http://www.marssociety.org/Mars Society and help make human space colinization a reality - a reality NOT dominated by existing governments and corporations.
From parent post: Or freedom from racism - unless you're a non-white-male.
All right - white American males complaining that they have been the victim of institutional racism, from either their employer or their government (or their landlord, etc.), are so delusional and so far from understanding what minorities and women face every day that I am forced to completely discount the rest of what they have to say. STFU. And I'm a white American male who actually grew up somewhere where I was* a minority.
*Miami-Dade County, Florida: White persons, not of Hispanic/Latino origin, percent, 2000: 20.7%
Where is the OSS answer to Exchange?? Maybe here? I personnaly perfer Novell's (SuSE's) OpenExchange, easier to set up and install. Been using it at the office for over 2 years now.
Yes, that is completely possible; and, it's one of the reasons some geeks (and non-geeks) would be interested in using such a device even when you only have one POTS (regular phone line) coming into your setup. You can also forward SIP calls to your POTS cordless phone, etc...
Any CS degree that is worth anything generally requires a math minor as part of the graduation requirements (if your school requires minors, as most do - particularly if you're in the College Arts and Sciences with Math, Meteorology, etc.). If you're going the computer engineering route instead, you can believe you'll have even more math. CS is just that, a 'science' - and the theories are described by and demonstrated with math.
Another example of why the benefits of open source need to be pushed up the corporate ladder... this is nuts. Almost as nasty as the things they've done for China.
Thanks, Cisco. Another one bites the credibility dust.
Macross - Do You Remember Love? the Movie (1984) takes the space battles from the Macross TV show (later dubbed into Robotech: the Macross Saga) to another level of scale, detail, and scope. Big ships, little interceptors, mechs walking around fighting on the hulls of mammoth cruisers - completely awesome and still looking top notch 20 years later.
I actually used to run a small business that collected traffic ticket (and DUI) information from the counties and provided it to ticket law offices in a format they could use (i.e. mailing lists). This information was hosted on various gov't run BBSs; but, it is now available on the internet. And this was back in 1999! And the jail (who had been arrested the day before) data was available, but my clients were only interested in traffic citations and DUIs...
My point? This has been going on for years, and the timing of the article suprised me. I think those people were especially upset since the police didn't call them (although they had gone through his wallet to determine and post his demographic info); however, the article seems to indicate that he was 18 or over, making you wonder if anything 'wrong' occurred in this situation. Annoying? Yes. Public information? Hey, it is. Interesting debate, though.
This happened to a friend of mine (while I was watching) - he made the mistake of looking at the sticker on the top of the chip when he was checking the proper orientation. Needless to say, the sticker was applied 'backwards' relative to the bios chip that was being switched out... nice fast 'pop' and a little smoke coming out of the window that was once covered by the sticker! Obviously a dumb mistake, but one that none of us who observed it are likely to repeat!
Actually, I think it was Adam, when we attempted to shrink him down and put him in a briefcase - and it was Antarctica that bore the brunt of that one... (hehe)
We're such dorks...
That's a good point - in fact, the media outlets that didn't even bother to check this bad looking picture out *really* have to be seen as the bad guys here. The whole 'check your sources' thing has to hold once you get past the tabloids. Bad journalism, plain and simple. Taking ANYTHING straight off the web - without independent confirmation of the facts through existing sources and contacts is pretty irresponsible. Any of us can freely editorialize and satirize on the internet, and that's great (I'm doing it now)... but this is like when the Chinese republished the Onion's story about the US Capitol renovations - as fact!
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More specifically, this happened at Florida State University's National High Magnetic Field Laboratory. Thanks!
I got in to programming a bit later, probably around 1984... started by typing in those BASIC programs you would get listed in the computer magazines of the day into an already old Atari 800. A few years later (1987) I started getting some formal programming instruction (Intro to Computer Programming in junior high) with LOGO Writer (on an IBM XT) as the tool the class was based around. As a teaching tool, I think it was great for a few reasons: (1) Instant gratification - the interpreted mode let you move around the 'turtle' and draw on the screen with some simple commands. You have to admit, for a little kid, BASIC provided little in the way of instant gratification when it came to computer graphics. (2) Early introduction to procedural programming - the GOSUBS and RETUNS in old ROM/Disk BASIC do provide the same type of functionality, but moving on to Pascal (as well as QuickBASIC, and then later C, then C++, etc) was a lot easier having already worked with the more formal structure of LOGOs procedures. Don't get me wrong - I don't disagree with you at all! I just wanted to point out some additional things that later made me realize that the old turtle wasn't too bad of a teacher after all. Thanks for the memories!
In July of this year, a study (Study: Organic Farming More Efficient) was published that found that organic farming methods can produce up to 3 times more food than more 'conventional' methods... just wanted to add to the debate!
So let's say you go ahead and use IE, Opera, etc... just go over to this website and get a set of host file entries that just redirect this nonsense to your localhost. Works great, you can even use the entries on your IPCop box or the like and protect your whole setup. Just a thought!
There are a lot of things that can be said on either side of this issue - and many are discussed above - but there seems to be a lack of concern regarding the risk that this genetic homogeneity poses to our food supply. If a huge proportion of our livestock are genetically identical, this has to raise the risk of a greater percentage of them falling victim to a pathogenic epidemic at some time in the future. Our (and the animals) genetic diversity is usually a great defence in the face of this type of disease outbreak. I'm sure you can imagine similar risks to our staple grain crops as well.
I'd say join the http://www.marssociety.org/Mars Society and help make human space colinization a reality - a reality NOT dominated by existing governments and corporations.
From parent post:
Or freedom from racism - unless you're a non-white-male.
All right - white American males complaining that they have been the victim of institutional racism, from either their employer or their government (or their landlord, etc.), are so delusional and so far from understanding what minorities and women face every day that I am forced to completely discount the rest of what they have to say. STFU. And I'm a white American male who actually grew up somewhere where I was* a minority.
*Miami-Dade County, Florida: White persons, not of Hispanic/Latino origin, percent, 2000: 20.7%
Where is the OSS answer to Exchange??
Maybe here? I personnaly perfer Novell's (SuSE's) OpenExchange, easier to set up and install. Been using it at the office for over 2 years now.
Yes, that is completely possible; and, it's one of the reasons some geeks (and non-geeks) would be interested in using such a device even when you only have one POTS (regular phone line) coming into your setup. You can also forward SIP calls to your POTS cordless phone, etc...
Auto Attendant!!!
(or is that one word - autoattendant?)
Any CS degree that is worth anything generally requires a math minor as part of the graduation requirements (if your school requires minors, as most do - particularly if you're in the College Arts and Sciences with Math, Meteorology, etc.). If you're going the computer engineering route instead, you can believe you'll have even more math. CS is just that, a 'science' - and the theories are described by and demonstrated with math.
Hardcopy or PDF or HTML?
Another example of why the benefits of open source need to be pushed up the corporate ladder... this is nuts. Almost as nasty as the things they've done for China. Thanks, Cisco. Another one bites the credibility dust.
Macross - Do You Remember Love? the Movie (1984) takes the space battles from the Macross TV show (later dubbed into Robotech: the Macross Saga) to another level of scale, detail, and scope. Big ships, little interceptors, mechs walking around fighting on the hulls of mammoth cruisers - completely awesome and still looking top notch 20 years later.
I actually used to run a small business that collected traffic ticket (and DUI) information from the counties and provided it to ticket law offices in a format they could use (i.e. mailing lists). This information was hosted on various gov't run BBSs; but, it is now available on the internet. And this was back in 1999! And the jail (who had been arrested the day before) data was available, but my clients were only interested in traffic citations and DUIs... My point? This has been going on for years, and the timing of the article suprised me. I think those people were especially upset since the police didn't call them (although they had gone through his wallet to determine and post his demographic info); however, the article seems to indicate that he was 18 or over, making you wonder if anything 'wrong' occurred in this situation. Annoying? Yes. Public information? Hey, it is. Interesting debate, though.
This happened to a friend of mine (while I was watching) - he made the mistake of looking at the sticker on the top of the chip when he was checking the proper orientation. Needless to say, the sticker was applied 'backwards' relative to the bios chip that was being switched out... nice fast 'pop' and a little smoke coming out of the window that was once covered by the sticker! Obviously a dumb mistake, but one that none of us who observed it are likely to repeat!
Actually, I think it was Adam, when we attempted to shrink him down and put him in a briefcase - and it was Antarctica that bore the brunt of that one... (hehe) We're such dorks...
That's a good point - in fact, the media outlets that didn't even bother to check this bad looking picture out *really* have to be seen as the bad guys here. The whole 'check your sources' thing has to hold once you get past the tabloids. Bad journalism, plain and simple. Taking ANYTHING straight off the web - without independent confirmation of the facts through existing sources and contacts is pretty irresponsible. Any of us can freely editorialize and satirize on the internet, and that's great (I'm doing it now)... but this is like when the Chinese republished the Onion's story about the US Capitol renovations - as fact!