Sure, it's what we expect them to do. They want to sell more, yes. We get that they want this and are allowed want this. But when they act more like Microsoft than Microsoft and *cripple* their own product just to spite creative users, what's the attraction supposed to be?
Apple's product checks for "legit" hardware, what happens if I want to run this in 10 years after my mac breaks? It'll check for authentic hardware and fail, where other OSes will work on an emulator.
The fact that Apple has given you full controll of your underlying software (i.e. kernel) invalidates your ludicrous claims. You can run your application 10 years after your mac breaks by replacing the original kernel with a modified open-source variant. How hard is this to fathom?
Darwin is the kernel used by OS X. Did you borrow someone else's Mac to run uname? Because I'm having a hard time believing that a Slashdotter who actually owns one wouldn't know the difference between the kernel and the full OS.
Sure, you can install Darwin on your PC, and when you boot it up you might get a nice command prompt.
So you are essentially arguing that X11 is what makes e.g. Linux or Solaris an Operating System? This is what makes Darwin a full OS. Not Quartz, iTunes and a browser.
Macintosh:~ xxx$ uname -a Darwin Macintosh.local 9.1.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.1.0: Wed Oct 31 17:46:22 PDT 2007; root:xnu-1228.0.2~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386
Sure, it's what we expect them to do. They want to sell more, yes. We get that they want this and are allowed want this. But when they act more like Microsoft than Microsoft and *cripple* their own product just to spite creative users, what's the attraction supposed to be?
Apple's product checks for "legit" hardware, what happens if I want to run this in 10 years after my mac breaks? It'll check for authentic hardware and fail, where other OSes will work on an emulator.
What utter crap you are spouting. You seem to completely disregard the fact that Apple has opensourced their operating system. The link is here. If you had bothered to check, you would have seen that this code is licensed under the "Apple Public Source License" which makes no limitation on where you can run this code.
As for stock price, Microsoft is doing rather well. They aren't flying at their record height of $50 a share, but the trend has been upward of late, with MSFThitting a 52 week high last month.
Try to compare msft with their main rivals and you will see that their growth is rather lacklustre. Viewed over 2 or 5 year ranges the stock is outperformed by both the Dow Jones and S&P 500 indexes. As an aside, the MSFT rally in October seems to be over.
# nmap -v -p22 -O 207.46.19.190 [..] Running: lwIP, Sun Solaris 2.X|7 OS details: lwIP (Lightweight TCP/IP stack) version lwip-0.5.3-win32, Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 (SPARC), Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 x86, Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 with tcp_strong_iss=0, Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 with tcp_strong_iss=2
I tried the above nmap with a newer version and could not reproduce this result. My conclusion is that the above guess is probably some default answer from nmap (3.7) and should be considered as rubbish.
MS claims their software is stable and secure. Perhaps it is -- when was the last time microsoft.com was taken down by malevolent hackers?
# dig www.microsoft.com [..]
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.microsoft.com. 2520 IN CNAME toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. 300 IN CNAME g.www.ms.akadns.net. g.www.ms.akadns.net. 300 IN CNAME lb1.www.ms.akadns.net. lb1.www.ms.akadns.net. 300 IN A 207.46.19.190 lb1.www.ms.akadns.net. 300 IN A 207.46.192.254 lb1.www.ms.akadns.net. 300 IN A 207.46.19.254 lb1.www.ms.akadns.net. 300 IN A 207.46.193.254 [..]
# nmap -v -p22 -O 207.46.19.190 [..] Host wwwbaytest1.microsoft.com (207.46.19.190) appears to be up... good. Interesting ports on wwwbaytest1.microsoft.com (207.46.19.190): PORT STATE SERVICE 22/tcp filtered ssh Device type: general purpose Running: lwIP, Sun Solaris 2.X|7 OS details: lwIP (Lightweight TCP/IP stack) version lwip-0.5.3-win32, Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 (SPARC), Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 x86, Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 with tcp_strong_iss=0, Sun Solaris 2.6 - 7 with tcp_strong_iss=2
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1.806 seconds
This is particularly tricky because one of the nicer things with Outlook is the ability to send e-mails with meetings in them and receive feedback as people accept or reject the meeting request.
Because that so-called 'rag tag band of volunteer programmers' is largely paid by Novell, Sun, Oracle, RedHat etc.
You state that the kernel developers are largely from these corporations.
No, the GP never made such claims. The GP however rejected the widespread myth that Linux is created by a rag tag band of volunteer programmers.
I beg to differ. If you read the above sentence again, you see that the GP clearly states that these programmers are largely paid by a set of large corporations.
Actual numbers are few and far between, but back in February LWN.net conducted a study..
An interesting read, but his conclusion assumes that the developers in the "Unknown" category are all paid contributers.
The editor also makes no distinction between actual kernel code and driver code, where companies have a natural interest (hp, broadcom etc.). The editor also makes no (nor can he) distinction between which lines of code are actually "work time" code and which code is "this is cool - let me work more on this on my spare time" code. Trying to determine a persons motive from an email-address is at best hard.
The assumption you and the GP also makes is that this ratio has been there since 1.0 in 1993. This is clearly false. The 2.6.20 patch did not make the kernel what it is today. A lot of voluntary work did that.
Count the "Author:" lines in that file. Out of 204 unique entries, 17 is from IBM, 7 is from RedHat, 5 is from Suse and 5 is from Oracle.
You state that the kernel developers are largely from these corporations. I make that only 16.6%. Not only are you sorely wrong - why you post gained +5 insightful is beyond me.
As for speed, my wife uses a Mac Pro to play WoW. She got 60FPS with 10.4.9. She gets 20-30fps with Leopard 10.5.1. That is one application and is caused mostly by all the swapping it has to do now. I can't generalize, but it is the same hardware and your claim was that it's faster which it's clearly not in this instance.
I'm running WoW on my 1GB RAM MBP. I got 20fps with Tiger and I get 20fps with Leopard. Take note that the recent 2.3 patch reset the WoW video settings - perhaps she is running with other video settings?
At present, "top" reports 251MB phys memory active of which firefox consumes 84MB (resident). Leopard probably consumes somewhat more memory than its predecessor, but your 1.5GB claim is over the top.
Leopard in itself feels snappier - especially spotlight which I've now actually started to use on a daily basis. 10.5.1 apparantly fixed a lot of issues - also firewall related. Perhaps you should try it again?
First, open source software developers will be able to access and use the interoperability information. Microsoft will not assert patents against non-commercial open source software development projects.
Which means that the information should be free for non-commercial use.
Second, the royalties payable for this information will be reduced to a nominal one-off payment of 10,000 euros.
Which IMHO should not be applicable to non-commercial use as "royalty" implies a cut of your profit.
This looks to me as a complete win for the FOSS movement.
So I guess it was a feature of the BSD TCP/IP stack they put in there?
As an aside, the same article describes the alternaltive way to change the IP MTU: Edit the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Network\{4D36E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} registry key. You just gotta love those keynames.
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Yeah, you'll notice, though, that I specifically mentioned the fact that I want it in the UK. The cost of a flight to the US will sort of wipe out any savings I can make between the US and UK price, and believe me, there'll be a difference.
I noticed. But as the Zune is US only, the only valid comparison is to compare the USD priced iPod vs. the USD priced Zune.
As an aside, the cost of the same iPod around here is $365.
The ubiquitous nature of windows makes it very easy to fix your machine should something go wrong
Fix a Windows OS problem!? Are you for real?
The checklist that 99.999% of the users use when a windows problem occurs is:
- reboot machine.
- reboot once more.
- reboot once more for luck.
- reinstall windows.
Most of the remaining 0.001% use this list:
- reboot machine.
- reboot once more.
- stare hard at error message - if any.
- start removing user-installed software.
- if no installed software remains and problem still occurs - reinstall windows.
As an aside, the above list is the recommended procedure Microsoft Helpdesk offers their users.
Let me just quote you again for luck:
The ubiquitous nature of windows makes it very easy to fix your machine should something go wrong
Dude, not even Steve Balmer has the temerity to utter that.
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Show me an 80gb iPod at that price (in the uk) and i'll order one this minute.
Uhm. The 80GB iPod classic currently costs $249, which is the same as the quoted price of the 80GB Zune ($250).
I've a question: who'll protect us from the monopoly of the EU? Did anyone ask YOU if you want them protecting your rights in THIS particular fashion?
The EU anti-competitive laws are set up to regulate the EU common market. The common market was set up as a multinational treaty. It is your goverments fault that it did not consult you before it entered this treaty, not the organization that was a result of this treaty. If you have issues with article 82 in this treaty, then you need to address your own goverment, which then in turn can either move to somehow renegotiate the treay or withdraw from it.
Heh. So basically you can keep the kernel running, but your X programs are fucked anyway. Well, gee, that's so different from rebooting the system.
It gives you a chance to atleast do a controlled restart including a sync. You also have a chance of debugging what went wrong if you are inclined to that.
Arguing that a system that gives you a chance to figure out what went wrong and recover gracefully from it is somehow equal to a system
that simply hides everything ugly, booting in mid-whatever is simply absurd.
1. buy a second computer, so he can SSH into the first one. Just, you know, because it's so evil to buy a $25 firewall for your Windows box, but it's cool to buy a whole second computer for your Linux box.
Your logic eludes me. Why do you need a second computer to simply boot your first? And exactly what does a firewall have to do with graphic driver instability?
And exactly at which point in time did it become "true" that Joe Sixpack can successfully configure and run e.g. a firewall, but completely impossible for him to learn "a bunch of command-line stuff"? Why is it that the stuff (firewalls, anti-virus, anti-malware, corrupted registries ) that Microsoft imposes on the end-user is "normal", while an optional feature in Linux renders that system completely unusable to anyone else but raving nerds?
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The fact that Apple has given you full controll of your underlying software (i.e. kernel) invalidates your ludicrous claims. You can run your application 10 years after your mac breaks by replacing the original kernel with a modified open-source variant. How hard is this to fathom?
So you are essentially arguing that X11 is what makes e.g. Linux or Solaris an Operating System? This is what makes Darwin a full OS. Not Quartz, iTunes and a browser.
I tried the above nmap with a newer version and could not reproduce this result. My conclusion is that the above guess is probably some default answer from nmap (3.7) and should be considered as rubbish.
I'm actually out of words at this point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_English_language
The Mozilla Lightning plugin for Thunderbird supports this feature.
I beg to differ. If you read the above sentence again, you see that the GP clearly states that these programmers are largely paid by a set of large corporations.
An interesting read, but his conclusion assumes that the developers in the "Unknown" category are all paid contributers. The editor also makes no distinction between actual kernel code and driver code, where companies have a natural interest (hp, broadcom etc.). The editor also makes no (nor can he) distinction between which lines of code are actually "work time" code and which code is "this is cool - let me work more on this on my spare time" code. Trying to determine a persons motive from an email-address is at best hard.
The assumption you and the GP also makes is that this ratio has been there since 1.0 in 1993. This is clearly false. The 2.6.20 patch did not make the kernel what it is today. A lot of voluntary work did that.
You probably refer to the battle of Agincourt?
Most britons remember the battle but few seem to remember the fact that they lost that war.
Grab the latest changelog from a kernel - say 2.6.24-rc3: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.24-rc3
Count the "Author:" lines in that file. Out of 204 unique entries, 17 is from IBM, 7 is from RedHat, 5 is from Suse and 5 is from Oracle.
You state that the kernel developers are largely from these corporations. I make that only 16.6%. Not only are you sorely wrong - why you post gained +5 insightful is beyond me.
I'm running WoW on my 1GB RAM MBP. I got 20fps with Tiger and I get 20fps with Leopard. Take note that the recent 2.3 patch reset the WoW video settings - perhaps she is running with other video settings?
At present, "top" reports 251MB phys memory active of which firefox consumes 84MB (resident). Leopard probably consumes somewhat more memory than its predecessor, but your 1.5GB claim is over the top.
Leopard in itself feels snappier - especially spotlight which I've now actually started to use on a daily basis. 10.5.1 apparantly fixed a lot of issues - also firewall related. Perhaps you should try it again?
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/ipfw.8.html
http://www.skype.com/help/guides/firewall.html
This looks to me as a complete win for the FOSS movement.
Well, according to this article: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0704.mspx ,
PMTU black hole router detection seems to have been included in Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003.
So I guess it was a feature of the BSD TCP/IP stack they put in there?
As an aside, the same article describes the alternaltive way to change the IP MTU: Edit the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Network\{4D36E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} registry key.
You just gotta love those keynames.
I noticed. But as the Zune is US only, the only valid comparison is to compare the USD priced iPod vs. the USD priced Zune.
As an aside, the cost of the same iPod around here is $365.
Fix a Windows OS problem!? Are you for real?
The checklist that 99.999% of the users use when a windows problem occurs is:
- reboot machine.
- reboot once more.
- reboot once more for luck.
- reinstall windows.
Most of the remaining 0.001% use this list:
- reboot machine.
- reboot once more.
- stare hard at error message - if any.
- start removing user-installed software.
- if no installed software remains and problem still occurs - reinstall windows.
As an aside, the above list is the recommended procedure Microsoft Helpdesk offers their users.
Let me just quote you again for luck:
Dude, not even Steve Balmer has the temerity to utter that.
Because I wanted to point out that his argument was whiny and offtopic?
And I am in no way going to be bothered refuting an argument that is based solely on someones general impression.
If you had bothered to read the originating mail ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/20 07-August/001510.html ), you would have seen that these servers were hacked through unpatched 3rd party web-applications running on these servers - namely:
Your argument is whiny and offtopic.
It gives you a chance to atleast do a controlled restart including a sync. You also have a chance of debugging what went wrong if you are inclined to that.
Arguing that a system that gives you a chance to figure out what went wrong and recover gracefully from it is somehow equal to a system that simply hides everything ugly, booting in mid-whatever is simply absurd.
Your logic eludes me. Why do you need a second computer to simply boot your first? And exactly what does a firewall have to do with graphic driver instability?
And exactly at which point in time did it become "true" that Joe Sixpack can successfully configure and run e.g. a firewall, but completely impossible for him to learn "a bunch of command-line stuff"? Why is it that the stuff (firewalls, anti-virus, anti-malware, corrupted registries ) that Microsoft imposes on the end-user is "normal", while an optional feature in Linux renders that system completely unusable to anyone else but raving nerds?