Maybe it's just the local "scene" then. The cape codders with money are the ones making all the problems, and the regular folk are the ones who are for it.
Why is this marked as troll? This has made the news in both TV and papers recently, about people with enough money to buy off government officials getting offshore wind power turbines denied permission.
CapeWind is one of the local (to me) organizations dedicated to providing actual information about the benefits, rather than the info that the people with more money than sense will give you.
If it's not the illogical people that are against nuclear power, and don't understand things like "real life", it's the rich people with more money than sense.
There have been numerous stories about wind-power stations, or water-power stations being denied permission to be built, because rich people don't want to ruin their view of the ocean from their homes on the ocean. Damnit.
Actually, 46 megatonnes of dust will have just as bad an impact on earth as a 46 megatonne rock. It's just that instead of the rock punching through the atmosphere and hitting earth, the dust will cook the atmosphere, and roast our air.
I'm curious to hear from people that have bad experiences with Google, or wish they did something another way, or even any examples of "corporate evilness" from them.
I'm not trying to be trollish, just curious if anybody has any perspective other than the very good experiences most of us have had with Google.
I wonder if Doppler shift affects this at all? I'm too just-woken-up to actually figure out how far the frequency will shift at say 60 MPH, I wonder if it's enough to push it into another channel even?
I'm also being general, just using a specific example. I can't think of an example where you'd want information about something outside of where you'd use that something. It just doesn't make sense.
I'm still right actually. You have a very neat camera, apparently. My camera doesn't know what I took pictures of. It just saves JPG files with the image data in it. Metadata is put into files by the users, in an attempt to organize it. Using metadata to organize files instead of organizing them by directory is just calling a rose another name. The user is still responsible for adding the metadata to his pictures, files, etc.
There's absolutely no reason to have that functionality in the OS. Why does an OS need to organize my MP3s, when my MP3 software does so just fine, and can actually do what you need to do with them (play them).
Which is exactly the point I'm trying to make.
Neither of MS or Apple's search tools make anything easier if the user didn't organize them anyway to begin with, in which case they're already organized and don't need an "advanced" search tool.
But a lot of these things require user intervention to begin with. The user is responsible for organizing the contents (such as adding keywords for "mackinaw bridge" OR putting it in a directory named for the date, etc), and the search tool is secondary to the organization process. Any innovations in searching only come from users paying more attention to organization in the first place. I still stand by my assertion that nothing from MS or Apple is innovative or even remarkably different from what's been out there for years.
No, I definitely thought about the point I was trying to make. As hard as OS makers try to innovate "searching" to use your example, if I want to add a new mp3 to my drive, I will add it in a directory named after the album, in a directory named after the band. Having all of the mp3s lumped into a big "smart" folder does nothing for organization, and infact is much more difficult to read.
It does matter where the bits lie if you want organization to find things better, which is up to the user.
Even if a desktop searching tool lets you search by text contained within a document, or the name of a file, or what have you, you still have to name it, or put text within it in a way that's organized. The user is required to give it structure to begin with.
Basically, organization is up to the user, whether it be by creating organized directories, or by creating logical names.
Searching for stuff requires you to have organized it well in the first place. I haven't seen anything right out of the box from either Apple or Microsoft that's any more innovative than anybody else's butt out there.
This is the crappy pot calling the crappy kettle crappy.
What's the big deal? A lot of products on the market are sold as untested. Out of a batch of 1000 products, only a small number might actually be tested. I know it's different with electronics, but I wouldn't have any problem buying something that I am fully aware is untested if it's cheaper.
That's obviously not the sole reason someone of intelligence would want off this rock, but sometimes to get the unwashed masses moving on something, you've got to light a fire under them (or drop a gigantic rock on them at a few thousand miles per hour).
Joe sixpack doesn't care about science, or exploration unless it directly affects him. The only reason a lot of the "space race" happened is because people were afraid of the commies. Now that there isn't such a fear, things like NASA get their budget slashed, and creativity suffers. Sometimes you need the fear of imminent death to drive science and technology (like in war).
To be awesome and reply-to-myself: Advertisement isn't just "let's show the world our valuable and useful product, to get the word around that it exists" anymore (if it ever was, though it goddamn should be), it's "let's try to trick the consumers into buying our product that they don't need, don't want, and breaks after two months anyway".
Good products don't need subversive advertisement planned by a-hole marketers.
If I could violate the social contracts of every advertiser out there, I would be a happy man. I just hope that someone somewhere is angry that I've blocked their crappy flash/gif advertisement.
Exactly! It's not so much the destination, as it is the journey. Adams could tell an amazingly good-to-read story about having breakfast cereal in the morning before work, just because of his writing style, and methodology. The plot may have changed format-to-format, year-to-year, but the style was what really made it great.
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Maybe it's just the local "scene" then. The cape codders with money are the ones making all the problems, and the regular folk are the ones who are for it.
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Thanks for the perspective though
-Jesse
Why is this marked as troll? This has made the news in both TV and papers recently, about people with enough money to buy off government officials getting offshore wind power turbines denied permission.
CapeWind is one of the local (to me) organizations dedicated to providing actual information about the benefits, rather than the info that the people with more money than sense will give you.
-Jesse
If it's not the illogical people that are against nuclear power, and don't understand things like "real life", it's the rich people with more money than sense.
There have been numerous stories about wind-power stations, or water-power stations being denied permission to be built, because rich people don't want to ruin their view of the ocean from their homes on the ocean. Damnit.
-Jesse
Actually, 46 megatonnes of dust will have just as bad an impact on earth as a 46 megatonne rock. It's just that instead of the rock punching through the atmosphere and hitting earth, the dust will cook the atmosphere, and roast our air.
-Jesse
I'm curious to hear from people that have bad experiences with Google, or wish they did something another way, or even any examples of "corporate evilness" from them.
I'm not trying to be trollish, just curious if anybody has any perspective other than the very good experiences most of us have had with Google.
-Jesse
I wonder if Doppler shift affects this at all? I'm too just-woken-up to actually figure out how far the frequency will shift at say 60 MPH, I wonder if it's enough to push it into another channel even?
-Jesse
I'm also being general, just using a specific example. I can't think of an example where you'd want information about something outside of where you'd use that something. It just doesn't make sense.
-Jesse
I'm still right actually. You have a very neat camera, apparently. My camera doesn't know what I took pictures of. It just saves JPG files with the image data in it. Metadata is put into files by the users, in an attempt to organize it. Using metadata to organize files instead of organizing them by directory is just calling a rose another name. The user is still responsible for adding the metadata to his pictures, files, etc.
-Jesse
Why would you ever need an MP3 indexing feature outside of an MP3 player? I can't think of any other application that would find that useful.
-Jesse
There's absolutely no reason to have that functionality in the OS. Why does an OS need to organize my MP3s, when my MP3 software does so just fine, and can actually do what you need to do with them (play them).
-Jesse
Which is exactly the point I'm trying to make.
Neither of MS or Apple's search tools make anything easier if the user didn't organize them anyway to begin with, in which case they're already organized and don't need an "advanced" search tool.
-Jesse
Both XMMS and Winamp have had this functionality since they began. Try pressing the "J" key next time you fire either up.
-Jesse
But a lot of these things require user intervention to begin with. The user is responsible for organizing the contents (such as adding keywords for "mackinaw bridge" OR putting it in a directory named for the date, etc), and the search tool is secondary to the organization process. Any innovations in searching only come from users paying more attention to organization in the first place. I still stand by my assertion that nothing from MS or Apple is innovative or even remarkably different from what's been out there for years.
-Jesse
No, I definitely thought about the point I was trying to make. As hard as OS makers try to innovate "searching" to use your example, if I want to add a new mp3 to my drive, I will add it in a directory named after the album, in a directory named after the band. Having all of the mp3s lumped into a big "smart" folder does nothing for organization, and infact is much more difficult to read.
It does matter where the bits lie if you want organization to find things better, which is up to the user.
-Jesse
Yes it does.
Even if a desktop searching tool lets you search by text contained within a document, or the name of a file, or what have you, you still have to name it, or put text within it in a way that's organized. The user is required to give it structure to begin with.
Basically, organization is up to the user, whether it be by creating organized directories, or by creating logical names.
-Jesse
Searching for stuff requires you to have organized it well in the first place. I haven't seen anything right out of the box from either Apple or Microsoft that's any more innovative than anybody else's butt out there.
This is the crappy pot calling the crappy kettle crappy.
-Jesse
What's the big deal? A lot of products on the market are sold as untested. Out of a batch of 1000 products, only a small number might actually be tested. I know it's different with electronics, but I wouldn't have any problem buying something that I am fully aware is untested if it's cheaper.
-Jesse
That's obviously not the sole reason someone of intelligence would want off this rock, but sometimes to get the unwashed masses moving on something, you've got to light a fire under them (or drop a gigantic rock on them at a few thousand miles per hour).
Joe sixpack doesn't care about science, or exploration unless it directly affects him. The only reason a lot of the "space race" happened is because people were afraid of the commies. Now that there isn't such a fear, things like NASA get their budget slashed, and creativity suffers. Sometimes you need the fear of imminent death to drive science and technology (like in war).
-Jesse
You ever see the cartoon in the 80s "Dinosaucers"?
-Jesse
As the title of the article indicates.
-Jesse
Whoa on the SR-71s! Nice Find!
-Jesse
To be awesome and reply-to-myself: Advertisement isn't just "let's show the world our valuable and useful product, to get the word around that it exists" anymore (if it ever was, though it goddamn should be), it's "let's try to trick the consumers into buying our product that they don't need, don't want, and breaks after two months anyway".
Good products don't need subversive advertisement planned by a-hole marketers.
-Jesse
If I could violate the social contracts of every advertiser out there, I would be a happy man. I just hope that someone somewhere is angry that I've blocked their crappy flash/gif advertisement.
-Jesse
Exactly! It's not so much the destination, as it is the journey. Adams could tell an amazingly good-to-read story about having breakfast cereal in the morning before work, just because of his writing style, and methodology. The plot may have changed format-to-format, year-to-year, but the style was what really made it great.
-Jesse
I was under the impression that information had 0 thermodynamic value. Where'd you hear otherwise? (I'm curious to know, not flaming or doubting).
-Jesse