We have a lot of software ready for Solaris and all of it will run on OpenSolaris also. You could have a lot of fun with a Solaris disto project. Perhaps the future is a meld of Linux and Solaris in to a super UNIX of sorts? Perhaps we are going there eventually anyways due to market forces.
Well, I have been in the pilot project from the very beginning and there are builds of OpenSolaris up and running. We have the source and are working on a PowerPC port to the Open Desktop Workstation :
http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php
We all don't live in the Linux world. Some of us want an OS that can run on 128 simultaneous processors as well as one or four or twelve all with the same kernel. Not a cluster. One big computer.
I suppose that we should all go back to assembly?
No thank you.
Java allows for machine and OS independence. That is a very good thing.
Both C and C++ allow for machine and OS dependence because most code written these days will not compile clean on any other environment other than the one it was written for. Try compiling POVRay or BinUtils on a machine and OS other than Intel and Linux. Good luck.
Even if you manage to get things to eventually compile you may have no way to run a testsuite to verify the validity of the result. You may actually get a clean report from the testsuite and still have software with memory leaks and security holes in it.
Oh, and the final piece is that the thing will only run on your machine or some other identical OS and library config.
I have to agree fully. The Java language is wonderfully built to avoid the pitfalls in both C and C++ issues. I highly doubt that we will see a virus or serious security issue in applications built with Java anytime soon. The applications built with C and C++ within Microsoft are virtually the same as a virus.
I think that you need to question your motives. If your focus is to entice people to move away from Microsoft software to Linux then you are being a bit close minded, for an open source advocate that must cause internal problems. I should think that giving the user choice and freedom is far more valuable. The user can choose to run Microsoft Windows if they want and still run OpenOffice. They can run Solaris for x86 or Opteron or Sparc or IBM Power ( Open Source Solaris ) and still get GNOME and KDE and Open Office and everything else. See www.blastwave.org for the Open Source Software project for Solaris users in a Debian like delivery system. The user should have freedom of choice regardless of where they go to. That, I think, should be the objective.
Dennis Clarke Admin and Director Blastwave - Open Source Software for Solaris
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Wow.
And that is with the installation CD's ?
Just install and run ?
What do you mean by "competition" ??
It was easy to miss the spelling.
As for "competition"?
See : http://java.com/en/everywhere/lookingglass.jsp
And my hat is off to you Sir !
Well done.
Would you care to join the Blastwave project?
http://www.blastwave.org/
We have a lot of software ready for Solaris and all of it will run on OpenSolaris also. You could have a lot of fun with a Solaris disto project. Perhaps the future is a meld of Linux and Solaris in to a super UNIX of sorts? Perhaps we are going there eventually anyways due to market forces.
furthermore ..
http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0016/index.h tml
Looks pretty real to me :)
Well, I have been in the pilot project from the very beginning and there are builds of OpenSolaris up and running. We have the source and are working on a PowerPC port to the Open Desktop Workstation : http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php We all don't live in the Linux world. Some of us want an OS that can run on 128 simultaneous processors as well as one or four or twelve all with the same kernel. Not a cluster. One big computer.
You mean Linux looks like Solaris? Does it matter? The front end can be what ever you want it to be.
see : http://www.blastwave.org/
and
http://www.blastwave.org/howto.html
I suppose that we should all go back to assembly?
No thank you.
Java allows for machine and OS independence. That is a very good thing.
Both C and C++ allow for machine and OS dependence because most code written these days will not compile clean on any other environment other than the one it was written for. Try compiling POVRay or BinUtils on a machine and OS other than Intel and Linux. Good luck.
Even if you manage to get things to eventually compile you may have no way to run a testsuite to verify the validity of the result. You may actually get a clean report from the testsuite and still have software with memory leaks and security holes in it.
Oh, and the final piece is that the thing will only run on your machine or some other identical OS and library config.
This is progress?
I have to agree fully. The Java language is wonderfully built to avoid the pitfalls in both C and C++ issues. I highly doubt that we will see a virus or serious security issue in applications built with Java anytime soon. The applications built with C and C++ within Microsoft are virtually the same as a virus.
I think that you need to question your motives. If your focus is to entice people to move away from Microsoft software to Linux then you are being a bit close minded, for an open source advocate that must cause internal problems. I should think that giving the user choice and freedom is far more valuable. The user can choose to run Microsoft Windows if they want and still run OpenOffice. They can run Solaris for x86 or Opteron or Sparc or IBM Power ( Open Source Solaris ) and still get GNOME and KDE and Open Office and everything else. See www.blastwave.org for the Open Source Software project for Solaris users in a Debian like delivery system. The user should have freedom of choice regardless of where they go to. That, I think, should be the objective.
Dennis Clarke
Admin and Director
Blastwave - Open Source Software for Solaris