#*$& <sigh>. Either that or they just now have less motivation to bug fix products since mentioning security bugs is illegal. Sometimes I wonder why I wake up.
And you just _know_ that somewhere the RIAA/MPAA people are getting tanked in celebration that this is a *good* thing.
Maybe we should go dump servers into boston harbor or something.
Yup, look below, lots more links on this kind of thing.
Once this stuff takes off and as engine quality improves, I guarantee architectural education will not be the same. Go to the building library and just go walk around any famous building in any weather at any time of year, etc : )
Huh, cool. I did a project a 2 summers ago that created a version of quake II that was linked to the O/S and could support file transfer/voice comm/spawning applications/etc. One of the things we thought it could be really cool for was grocery stores.
It seems that the specialized/smaller applications are failing simply because there is no titan and new ones may be simpler to write then screw with the old one. Who wants to go write Apache or Linux? Heh, well probably some, but the point is it would be nutz amount of work.
A good solution might be a text editor or similar specialized apps built around a very flexible GUI skinning system. Also, something that kept necessary application/setting info in an easy to access spot would help.
Then if coder x wants a feature he can easily extend this existing program.
The basic point is maybe we should create open source projects with the _central_ idea that they are _not_ cathedral projects. Incorporate the idea of multi user editing/extension as one of the primary design criterea(sp?). All parts of the program divided up into components. Ideally, interchangable as much as possible.
If many of these existing projects were easy to extend or there was a common project of each type that was 'known' to be be good, then I doubt as many people would be interested in re-duplicating efforts.
If you write a text editor that I can easily add features to, I am going to work on that one.
Most plastics are derived from components in petrol. Wonder if these advances will drive up the value or cost of gas. Gallon of gas or future advanced thing-a-ma-jig...hmmm...
I would put good money that 3d will continue to be an increasing trend. Part of the illure is the ability to have a false world. It is enjoyable, to loose yourself in dark hallways of aliens or fantasy lands.
Anyone who doubts this take a look at Everquest, Asheron's Call, UO, etc. Having 30 full days played in less than a year is not uncommon.
Also, there is all this free processing power that is sitting around. Why not use it to create virtual worlds.
Also, new immersive/partially immersive technologies like http://www.elumens.com/
and the 3d digitizer stuff keeps getting cheaper.
Network bandwidth also continues to skyrocket, which will support moving those big files.
Already in some "games" it isn't as much as you play the game, but you experience the life, scenery, etc of the character. When my friend and I first played unreal on a huge system we spent hours just looking around and enjoying.
There are lots of benefits of having them, such as education and I'm sure the p0rn community will lead the way as always.
Anyway, I found the article an interesting point but a ridiculous premise. Does anyone really think we are going to stop advancing games? Eventually, the worlds from games will go more mainstream (the online component of Black and White http://www.lionhead.com will be a good example of this), people will catch on.
All of this is sort of like the saying back in the 80's, "lots of people spending time in chat rooms, typing..hehehehe... that will be the day." It's coming people, ready or not.
Last summer a partner and I implemented the rudiments of a 3d user interface based around providing a set of services. The user would be able to move around in an unlimited size 3d environment with the services of the O/S tracking him/her. We were working on letting the user pull up familiar services such as text editing, spreadsheets in a 3d envirionment, but we quickly ran into a lot of revelations. I have them all written down somewhere but these are off the top of my head. If you'd like to talk about it more just email me. Anyway, I am kind of tired so this may ramble.
-It is more difficult to do any trivial application in 3d.
-We felt that at the root of this problem was a fact about how computers developed. We as humans primarily deal in two dimensional medium on computers (documents, spreadsheets, power point, code). Computers evolved to facilitate these flat tasks and hense the desktop interface.
-The desktop interface works very well for handling 2d media.
-3d environments offer great possibilites for relating information.
-3d interfaces work much better if the system is smarter. If you don't have to go worry about arranging directories or setting configurations. [running to another room and climbing a tower to throw a lever to change resolution would be a pain after a while <- we tried]
-People will only embrace a new interface if it simplifies a task over the previous.
-If resolution increases in 3d environments they will become more desirable. For example you could roll out a sheet of paper in a 3d environent that represented your conventional settings.
-A network based 3d envrionment implies a new sense of things. Other networks or computers become space. So I could be in my bank's website and pull up a word processor in front of my avatar.
-This is moving more into the realm of "virtual reality" which I know everyone is jaded about, but I see it as a smooth transition.
-People like communication and society especially if they can be anonymous. Being able to move around with the power of your computer in a 3d anony 3d environment would make a lot of people happy.
Honestly, from having worked with it I think that a base 3d interface is coming, but I don't think it will totally surplant 2d. What we have now is really very good for doing pratical work.
Also if anyone has the time. It would really be helpful if more work was done on voice and gesture control (mouse, pen, puck, hand, glove).
Mr. Adams, I was interested in how you got started writing that series of novels. I mean what prompted the thought "I am going to sit down and write the wackiest, best science fiction book ever?" How long did it take you, where did you write it etc. Also, no offence, but did drugs play as big a role as I thought they did in creating the story?
Why doesn't somebody just build a system of rods into the floor that can raise up and down via computer control. Figure out some form of surface you could conform over given shapes and you could eaisly add terrain. This has to be feasable. That way you could make the stupid chair rise up out of the ground. That would be awesome. Better still if you are really bored make the surface somehow pocketed so you could inflate air into it and make the ground hard or soft, so your ass wouldn't hurt in the chair.
The problem with standards creation is that there is no economic incentive for AOL or MS to create them. If I am AOL and you are MS or an open source project, what incentive do I have to let you access my system. The entire point of offering IM is to control its users. For example if I'm AOL I may want to start selling advertisements on ICQ. This doesn't work to well for me if other organizations or companies can tap into my network and let people run a program that doesn't use the adds. If I allow this to happen I potentially run the risk of paying to maintain servers and support, but no revenue.
As I see it this problem can be solved in one of two ways. Some authoritative force can require companies to allow open access to their systems. This will force companies to either shut down their IM's or come up with an alternative way to justify their expense.
The other way is some independent group coming up with a standard and creating good IM clients to support it. The problem with this will be that it faces an uphill battle with existing services, which is precisely the annoyance that brought this question.
It is late, but I'll happily follow any elegant solution to this problem. I'd just rather see a permanent fix than having a client that gets its access blocked every couple of months.
I would go out and find a good intelectual property lawyer in the area. Also, lots of laywers volunteer free legal counsel to help out students, so you could probably actually get that through your school:).
There is growing acceptance of organisms living in the earths crust. I know that life has been found as deep as something like 5 miles, from a mine in South Africa, which is the deepest down we've ever been.
Also, a link to Thomas Gold's site at Cornell, which contains links to the theories mentioned http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/tg21/
It's a shame policy is off limits. Since one of the big reason's he's being interviewed is the seemingly increasing use of linux by the British government. That would make him a great person to ask about what he thought trends in govt and what policy decisions he felt his govt would/is make over open source. oh well.
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#*$& <sigh>. Either that or they just now have less motivation to bug fix products since mentioning security bugs is illegal. Sometimes I wonder why I wake up.
And you just _know_ that somewhere the RIAA/MPAA people are getting tanked in celebration that this is a *good* thing.
Maybe we should go dump servers into boston harbor or something.
Wonderful. They finally went and made my *$&@ major illegal. I guess its on history or some such major now. *##&$^ <sigh>
Yup, look below, lots more links on this kind of thing.
Once this stuff takes off and as engine quality improves, I guarantee architectural education will not be the same. Go to the building library and just go walk around any famous building in any weather at any time of year, etc : )
Yeah, I agree about Unreality etc.
The interesting thing is this _is_ still news. Despite large progress most people still think this kind of thing is way out of reach.
Huh, cool. I did a project a 2 summers ago that created a version of quake II that was linked to the O/S and could support file transfer/voice comm/spawning applications/etc. One of the things we thought it could be really cool for was grocery stores.
<sigh> well maybe someday : )
It seems that the specialized/smaller applications are failing simply because there is no titan and new ones may be simpler to write then screw with the old one. Who wants to go write Apache or Linux? Heh, well probably some, but the point is it would be nutz amount of work.
A good solution might be a text editor or similar specialized apps built around a very flexible GUI skinning system. Also, something that kept necessary application/setting info in an easy to access spot would help.
Then if coder x wants a feature he can easily extend this existing program.
The basic point is maybe we should create open source projects with the _central_ idea that they are _not_ cathedral projects. Incorporate the idea of multi user editing/extension as one of the primary design criterea(sp?). All parts of the program divided up into components. Ideally, interchangable as much as possible.
If many of these existing projects were easy to extend or there was a common project of each type that was 'known' to be be good, then I doubt as many people would be interested in re-duplicating efforts.
If you write a text editor that I can easily add features to, I am going to work on that one.
Most plastics are derived from components in petrol. Wonder if these advances will drive up the value or cost of gas. Gallon of gas or future advanced thing-a-ma-jig...hmmm...
Prototype your engine parts or design prototype and then eat them when you're done.
Interestingly, this article was included as "the" first thing in the current issue of Forbes, so the topic isn't just a geek one.
I would put good money that 3d will continue to be an increasing trend. Part of the illure is the ability to have a false world. It is enjoyable, to loose yourself in dark hallways of aliens or fantasy lands.
Anyone who doubts this take a look at Everquest, Asheron's Call, UO, etc. Having 30 full days played in less than a year is not uncommon.
Also, there is all this free processing power that is sitting around. Why not use it to create virtual worlds.
Also, new immersive/partially immersive technologies like http://www.elumens.com/
and the 3d digitizer stuff keeps getting cheaper.
Network bandwidth also continues to skyrocket, which will support moving those big files.
Already in some "games" it isn't as much as you play the game, but you experience the life, scenery, etc of the character. When my friend and I first played unreal on a huge system we spent hours just looking around and enjoying.
There are lots of benefits of having them, such as education and I'm sure the p0rn community will lead the way as always.
Anyway, I found the article an interesting point but a ridiculous premise. Does anyone really think we are going to stop advancing games? Eventually, the worlds from games will go more mainstream (the online component of Black and White http://www.lionhead.com will be a good example of this), people will catch on.
All of this is sort of like the saying back in the 80's, "lots of people spending time in chat rooms, typing..hehehehe... that will be the day." It's coming people, ready or not.
Last summer a partner and I implemented the rudiments of a 3d user interface based around providing a set of services. The user would be able to move around in an unlimited size 3d environment with the services of the O/S tracking him/her. We were working on letting the user pull up familiar services such as text editing, spreadsheets in a 3d envirionment, but we quickly ran into a lot of revelations. I have them all written down somewhere but these are off the top of my head. If you'd like to talk about it more just email me. Anyway, I am kind of tired so this may ramble.
-It is more difficult to do any trivial application in 3d.
-We felt that at the root of this problem was a fact about how computers developed. We as humans primarily deal in two dimensional medium on computers (documents, spreadsheets, power point, code). Computers evolved to facilitate these flat tasks and hense the desktop interface.
-The desktop interface works very well for handling 2d media.
-3d environments offer great possibilites for relating information.
-3d interfaces work much better if the system is smarter. If you don't have to go worry about arranging directories or setting configurations. [running to another room and climbing a tower to throw a lever to change resolution would be a pain after a while <- we tried]
-People will only embrace a new interface if it simplifies a task over the previous.
-If resolution increases in 3d environments they will become more desirable. For example you could roll out a sheet of paper in a 3d environent that represented your conventional settings.
-A network based 3d envrionment implies a new sense of things. Other networks or computers become space. So I could be in my bank's website and pull up a word processor in front of my avatar.
-This is moving more into the realm of "virtual reality" which I know everyone is jaded about, but I see it as a smooth transition.
-People like communication and society especially if they can be anonymous. Being able to move around with the power of your computer in a 3d anony 3d environment would make a lot of people happy.
Honestly, from having worked with it I think that a base 3d interface is coming, but I don't think it will totally surplant 2d. What we have now is really very good for doing pratical work.
Also if anyone has the time. It would really be helpful if more work was done on voice and gesture control (mouse, pen, puck, hand, glove).
Is this in violation of any law? Besides seeming to apply to censorship.
Mr. Adams, I was interested in how you got started writing that series of novels. I mean what prompted the thought "I am going to sit down and write the wackiest, best science fiction book ever?" How long did it take you, where did you write it etc. Also, no offence, but did drugs play as big a role as I thought they did in creating the story?
Why doesn't somebody just build a system of rods into the floor that can raise up and down via computer control. Figure out some form of surface you could conform over given shapes and you could eaisly add terrain. This has to be feasable. That way you could make the stupid chair rise up out of the ground. That would be awesome. Better still if you are really bored make the surface somehow pocketed so you could inflate air into it and make the ground hard or soft, so your ass wouldn't hurt in the chair.
The problem with standards creation is that there is no economic incentive for AOL or MS to create them. If I am AOL and you are MS or an open source project, what incentive do I have to let you access my system. The entire point of offering IM is to control its users. For example if I'm AOL I may want to start selling advertisements on ICQ. This doesn't work to well for me if other organizations or companies can tap into my network and let people run a program that doesn't use the adds. If I allow this to happen I potentially run the risk of paying to maintain servers and support, but no revenue.
As I see it this problem can be solved in one of two ways. Some authoritative force can require companies to allow open access to their systems. This will force companies to either shut down their IM's or come up with an alternative way to justify their expense.
The other way is some independent group coming up with a standard and creating good IM clients to support it. The problem with this will be that it faces an uphill battle with existing services, which is precisely the annoyance that brought this question.
It is late, but I'll happily follow any elegant solution to this problem. I'd just rather see a permanent fix than having a client that gets its access blocked every couple of months.
I would go out and find a good intelectual property lawyer in the area. Also, lots of laywers volunteer free legal counsel to help out students, so you could probably actually get that through your school :).
Good luck.
There is growing acceptance of organisms living in the earths crust. I know that life has been found as deep as something like 5 miles, from a mine in South Africa, which is the deepest down we've ever been.
Also, a link to Thomas Gold's site at Cornell, which contains links to the theories mentioned
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/tg21/
It's a shame policy is off limits. Since one of the big reason's he's being interviewed is the seemingly increasing use of linux by the British government. That would make him a great person to ask about what he thought trends in govt and what policy decisions he felt his govt would/is make over open source. oh well.