You're comparing 2TB 7200rpm SATA drives running in a NAS with 15 and 10 krpm SAS disks running in a SAN ranging from 150USD for 146GB to 999USD for 600GB that's not counting the significantly more expensive card prices and everything else for running it
You're correct, I picked up the extra concern of IOPS/access speed later in this thread. That pretty much answers my question about "How in hell" they arrive at that estimate.
But that also puts us in the position where TFA measures "dollars per hundred terabytes" without clarifying over what time interval, or the disk access speeds required. So long as gigabytes aren't the scarce resource, and people are purchasing whatever sized disks to use tiny portions in spanned arrays for speed, this is as useless as F-1 racers measuring speed in gallons per hour.
The fourth dimension is not spatial. It's temporal
You mean the fourth coordinate you use in Minkowski's formulae is temporal. Nobody is forced to ordinalize the dimensions used in their conceptual models by any given standard. For example, I learned coordinate systems from programming a TI-99/4a computer that addressed screen characters in "row/column" format. This became a stumbling block for me learning the cartesian (x,y) coordinate system, I kept wanting to notate the Y before the X. Their "first" dimention was my "second".
GP's "fourth" dimension isn't a dimension you use in Minkowski equations at all. It's just a convenient, abstract fourth spatial dimension per Edwin Abbot used to demonstrate the arbitrary concept of folding R^3 into a 3-ball. While that is not identical to any relativistic equations, it is equally helpful at illustrating non-euclidean geometry in general.
Now let's stop this argument where it is before the string theorists get in. 8I
Android users, on the other hand, have to visit the service's website which requires them to download the app's data and interface on every request.
[ Citation Needed ]
Name any one service you have an app for on an Iphone that we Android users don't have an app for, so that we are instead forced to visit some website.
Now on the other hand, Android carries plenty of apps the Istore won't endorse.. alternate browsers for example. Scripting and development tools. *cough*pr0n*ahem*
I clicked on the article and couldn't find any mention of standard deviation. Knowing the standard deviation would make statistics like this far more interesting and meaningful.
I actually don't care about the deviation or distribution. What I want to know is the population sets.
I'm of course rooting for Verizon here, but if it happens that AT&T is supporting 10x the data subscriber base then a moderate drop in average rate is to be expected as average is aggregate divided by population.
In short, which provider is pumping the greatest number of bits to the greatest number of phones? If It's Verizon, then #attfail pure and simple. If it's AT&T, then we might need to start learning alternate business models to pump wireless data to the consumer.:S
If they keys are lost, you just disable the DNSSEC-extensions on all recursive nameservers and everything will work as it currently does. DNSSEC only adds a crypto-validity-check to DNS.
Unfortunately, the moment root to tip DNSSEC becomes available on.com domains, it will begin to be loaded with every security asset under the sun. Businesses will stop paying Verisign for SSL certs and start certifying their keys via DNSSEC. Organizations will start certifying their VPN keys in DNSSEC.
We'll no more be able to go back to unsecured DNS than appleTV users will be able to go back to dialup.
Retail stores don't receive 100% of their funding based on the number of people who happen to be in that store on one single day of the term.
No, but they receive funding based on how many people pay them how much money.
So, give the students vouchers and let the families spend the vouchers on whichever institution they choose. Only redeem the vouchers at state approved institutions, including other public schools. The vouchers then dictate how much funding that institution gets the following year.
He may be at fault and needs to be punished but he did do it doing his job so the company is responsible too.
[ Citation Needed ]
The video blurs the case and parrots her side of the story, but nowhere has it been demonstrated that the things this guy did were in any way related to his job. Even the video shows them chatting outside of Dell's support system. I saw Facebook and AIM on there.
And have you ever used a corporate tech support system? There is no way to get connected to the same tech when you go in through the front door, they assign you a new one. That's specifically to prevent these kinds of scenarios from being possible within the system. If she's been filing complaints for over a year that this guy has ripped off her nude pics, then why does she keep connecting to him and overnighting him hardware?
The linked video claims messages from "just last week" show him saying "you're a really good friend, Tara". Does that fit into a yearlong protracted tech support, supervisor invoking battle, or an off-duty chummy chum relationship gone sour?
Anyway, the company can't be legally punished needed or not until she takes this to the authorities instead of the media. Unfortunately, the authorities won't just parrot her sensational restacking of facts like the media does.
Well, the dell employee should be hanged upside down, that said, she certainly lowers the bar for dumb!
Yeah, but if you read all of the stories the "wtf" and "god your dumb" factor dissolves.
She began chatting with this guy due to tech support complaints. Then she started dating him online. She's still dating him now in fact, as they're still connected on facebook.
Claiming she talked to tech support about naked pictures (since he has them) and claiming the laptop had to do with resolving the naked pictures problem (since she sent that) is dissembling. She sent the laptop before the website went up.
Fact is she had a turbulent online affair. She probably got jerked around, but it didn't apparently have a thing to do with Dell: that's just how they met. Now she's running to the media (not the authorities) because she's pissed and she can paint this as a "tech support nightmare" "evil outsourcing" scenario and reap notoriety.
Not at all. Like I said, I've been where you are and done all that, and probably gone further into that lifestyle than you've ever thought of.
Alright, but now you've confused me with C64. I have never stepped foot in that lifestyle. I not only don't do weed, I don't drink or smoke either. I'm a teetotaler.
My stance is that you are confusing licence with obligation, and this is what I mean. I have the licence to partake in any number of vices that I simply do not. My character protects me from overindulgence, and to be honest I don't think I would have had the opportunity to grow my strength of character if external forces robbed me of the right to make those choices.
To say that a person cannot know whether licentious behavior is profitable or not is simply foolish. All around us every day we have examples, plus the examples from human history, that show us the results of licentiousness.
I suppose your right, since we can use real world evidence to perfectly predict which behaviors are harmful and since all people agree what this data is telling us at all times, let's start by outlawing the Catholic Church. Never in human history has any organization caused a greater amount of pain and suffering, and they are still a world power to this day. Since they have tortured and committed genocide in the past, we can assume they will continue to do so.
Or, maybe not everyone agrees after all. Maybe we cannot perfectly predict the future. Maybe some outcomes are statistically so likely we can call them obvious (shooting yourself in the head leads to death) while others are not so obvious and a cause for debate (owning a gun leads to death?) so that government restrictions to prevent stupidity (outlaw guns?) are left completely ineffective at improving lives on average; even if enforced with perfect fidelity.
Everyone agrees that hammering your thumb is foolish. Yet, to hammer a nail we absolutely have to take the risk of hitting our thumb. It is left to our personal skills and willpower to perform that final act of micromanagement. Government cannot be entrusted to do that.
I was pointing out that you are confused when you think license to sin is liberty. It isn't.
I think that licence to sin is exactly what liberty is. I think YOU confuse licence with obligation.
I deserve the freedom to choose to bang my thumb with a hammer. Without this "licence", I am not allowed to risk that consequence while trying to pound a standard nail via standard means. Without licence to take that risk, I must either put up with unreasonable thumb-protecting contrivances, or give up hammering nails completely.
The only alternative to a licence to do stupid things is an enforcement mechanism which takes upon itself to define what is stupid and thus what is forbidden. Such mechanism cannot represent your best interests, only their own. This is why "stupid" no longer means harming yourself, it means harming their profit margins.
This is how laws transform from keeping roads safe, to setting maximum driving speeds, to timing enforcement to encourage drivers to get lax and drive too fast and then harvest dividends busting them. This is how the war on crime turns into the war on drugs which turns into a protectionist monopoly where the government prosecutes every channel of availability of wildly popular narcotics to artificially inflate their value for the select few who fund the officials who make these decisions.
The only difference between liberty and licence, between freedom and licentiousness is either who it offends, or whether or not time demonstrates that it is profitable. The first is subjective and disingenuous while the second by definition cannot be predicted.
In the end a person — and the intervening efforts of their loved ones, church, or diety — are the arbiter of what is good or bad for them. Government should only concern themselves with disputes between different people.
Even the very wise cannot see all ends, and even the well intentioned cannot guarantee the intentions of their successor.
I read years back that Google's data centers use largely commodity servers and drives, but their operations assume so much data redundancy that no one drive failure hurts them. They pull the whole server whenever it suits them, plug a spare in and send it to the coroner.
It really just makes my ears bleed to hear that seven years after I've read this, most organizations are still futzing over the reliability or IOPS of single drives. Why cannot the reliability and access speed be spread over a larger number hardware instances, thus taking each one individually off the hook?
In other words, the whole thing is an attempt to get companies to spend tens of thousands of dollars for something that could be done by well-written shell script.
To be fair, "well-written shell script" is only an inexpensive solution for the author of that shell script. When you purchase expensive product A, you aren't spending money on the solution you are spending money on anchoring your liability in case of catastrophe (software bug misreports disk usage leading to slapstick) against the provider of the solution.
Put simply, shell scripts are the thongs of the IT world. They are too skimpy to Cover Your Ass with. 8I
I agree with HungryHobo, but I also doubt the opposite side of that equation. How in hell do you estimate 100TB of storage costing $1 million usd? And over what time period? Per quarter, per annum? That works out to $10,000 per terabyte. I can pick up a 2TB SATA drive at frys for $180 (maybe less now). I have a Netgear SAN with 4 such drives at my house, running the equivalent of RAID 5 I've got 6TB in that alone. During the summer, my power bill is $40/mo, and I guarantee the SAN is a drop in that bucket compared to the other crazy gear running at my house.
No, what I think they did is tabbed up the total operating expense of some outfit somewhere and divided that into the size of their datacenter. Every accountant knows that Hookers and Blow should not be tabbed against disk capacity.
"100 bytes?" Why this arbitrary, ugly, sorry-ass excuse of a number? An elegant, round number like 64, 128... hell, even 96 would have been a sensible and far superior choice.
Because those are only round(ish) numbers in binary. Might make sense if you were sorting 1TiB of data, but they were not. Per TFA:
one terabyte of data (1,000 gigabytes or 1 million megabytes)
This clarifies that they were working with the SI prefix "Tera", meaning that powers of ten much more evenly divide. To whit, 10^2 byte records in a 10^12 byte dataset = exactly 10^10 (ten billion) specific records. 64 or 128 byte records would divide evenly into a non-round number of records, 96 byte records would not divide evenly.
This of course also assumes precisely 1TB of data, TFA suggests "more than" 1TB, so your guess is as good as mine. It might even be 1TiB, which is about 10% more.
Oh, fuck that. This is worthy of some serious competition to Adobe in the form of Flash Player Replacement options. SVG and Canvas are nice and all, but there must be alternate ways to view the same content similar to competing web browsers for viewing the same HTML.
We've been working on helping Homosexuals to come out of the closet for years, but now.. now it looks like we need to help the Homo SAPIENS come out of the closet, too.
Alright! Fine, you caught me! I'm human.
I can still get employed though, we just need to rejigger the Affirmative Action laws a bit. Let's say, make it illegal to base hiring decisions on non-legally-contested shit that went down more than 7 years ago. *shrug*
There's a trivial solution to that- erase all moderation on edit.
Fair enough, but should they erase all replies on edit too? Or can I trick someone into replying to me and then reword my OP to make them sound like a blithering idiot?:3
Another option would be to revoke edit privs once a reply is made, which would suck if you spent a lot of time editing prior to that happening.
All in all, I'm content with the Darwinism of the preview button.;3
If your job was too much fun, they'd charge you money to be here.
True, so the idea is that your pay counterbalances the imposition on your time. You wouldn't pay to do this, you would not do it (consistently) pro bono, but the work is worth what you're being paid. You have other options at your disposal, but this is the best one (job satisfaction + pay + benefits) so you've chosen it. This doesn't describe suffering. There is an imposition on your time and responsibilities for which you are being compensated, but after that if you still hated it — assuming the option is available — you would escape.
Many jobs do not fit that mold however. Sometimes you are forced by circumstance to work somewhere. Sometimes you are roped into non-disclosure and non-compete agreements that prevent you from going elsewhere in your industry, and you lack the experience to get anywhere in another industry. Sometimes you're beholden to someone; blackmailed by the boss for example or indentured by a health plan. Sometimes this happens non-personally, such as building a household or lifestyle which then gets neglected by long hours on the job and stretched thinly enough that it cannot survive the shock of a job change.
This was common during the Great Depression, where anyone who could wave a tenner in the air could bully starving day workers into hazardous or reprehensible tasks. They couldn't afford to stand up for their rights (in either time or money) and society had squelched their complaints from the get go.
It is valuable for our society today to avoid going back down that path, and I recommend starting by thinking twice before dismissing the reality of unfair working conditions by assuming the market will always even things out.
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You're comparing 2TB 7200rpm SATA drives running in a NAS with 15 and 10 krpm SAS disks running in a SAN ranging from 150USD for 146GB to 999USD for 600GB that's not counting the significantly more expensive card prices and everything else for running it
You're correct, I picked up the extra concern of IOPS/access speed later in this thread. That pretty much answers my question about "How in hell" they arrive at that estimate.
But that also puts us in the position where TFA measures "dollars per hundred terabytes" without clarifying over what time interval, or the disk access speeds required. So long as gigabytes aren't the scarce resource, and people are purchasing whatever sized disks to use tiny portions in spanned arrays for speed, this is as useless as F-1 racers measuring speed in gallons per hour.
^W > ^H, I'm just sayin :P
The fourth dimension is not spatial. It's temporal
You mean the fourth coordinate you use in Minkowski's formulae is temporal. Nobody is forced to ordinalize the dimensions used in their conceptual models by any given standard. For example, I learned coordinate systems from programming a TI-99/4a computer that addressed screen characters in "row/column" format. This became a stumbling block for me learning the cartesian (x,y) coordinate system, I kept wanting to notate the Y before the X. Their "first" dimention was my "second".
GP's "fourth" dimension isn't a dimension you use in Minkowski equations at all. It's just a convenient, abstract fourth spatial dimension per Edwin Abbot used to demonstrate the arbitrary concept of folding R^3 into a 3-ball. While that is not identical to any relativistic equations, it is equally helpful at illustrating non-euclidean geometry in general.
Now let's stop this argument where it is before the string theorists get in. 8I
Android users, on the other hand, have to visit the service's website which requires them to download the app's data and interface on every request.
[ Citation Needed ]
Name any one service you have an app for on an Iphone that we Android users don't have an app for, so that we are instead forced to visit some website.
Now on the other hand, Android carries plenty of apps the Istore won't endorse.. alternate browsers for example. Scripting and development tools. *cough*pr0n*ahem*
I clicked on the article and couldn't find any mention of standard deviation. Knowing the standard deviation would make statistics like this far more interesting and meaningful.
I actually don't care about the deviation or distribution. What I want to know is the population sets.
I'm of course rooting for Verizon here, but if it happens that AT&T is supporting 10x the data subscriber base then a moderate drop in average rate is to be expected as average is aggregate divided by population.
In short, which provider is pumping the greatest number of bits to the greatest number of phones? If It's Verizon, then #attfail pure and simple. If it's AT&T, then we might need to start learning alternate business models to pump wireless data to the consumer. :S
If they keys are lost, you just disable the DNSSEC-extensions on all recursive nameservers and everything will work as it currently does. DNSSEC only adds a crypto-validity-check to DNS.
Unfortunately, the moment root to tip DNSSEC becomes available on .com domains, it will begin to be loaded with every security asset under the sun. Businesses will stop paying Verisign for SSL certs and start certifying their keys via DNSSEC. Organizations will start certifying their VPN keys in DNSSEC.
We'll no more be able to go back to unsecured DNS than appleTV users will be able to go back to dialup.
It doesn't matter. Unless you weigh into the elder welfare programs, the budget can't balance.
Clinton balanced the budget during his term in office. Have elder programs expanded that much in thirteen years?
Retail stores don't receive 100% of their funding based on the number of people who happen to be in that store on one single day of the term.
No, but they receive funding based on how many people pay them how much money.
So, give the students vouchers and let the families spend the vouchers on whichever institution they choose. Only redeem the vouchers at state approved institutions, including other public schools. The vouchers then dictate how much funding that institution gets the following year.
Staff chasing away students? Negative financial consequences.
Want to submit a voucher and kick in cash for a private school? So long as that school is state certified in the voucher program, ok.
Want to short change your kids at a catholic school? Sure as hell hope that school has passed the certs, or the voucher's no good there.
You know, just my 5 minute brainstorm on the matter.
He may be at fault and needs to be punished but he did do it doing his job so the company is responsible too.
[ Citation Needed ]
The video blurs the case and parrots her side of the story, but nowhere has it been demonstrated that the things this guy did were in any way related to his job. Even the video shows them chatting outside of Dell's support system. I saw Facebook and AIM on there.
And have you ever used a corporate tech support system? There is no way to get connected to the same tech when you go in through the front door, they assign you a new one. That's specifically to prevent these kinds of scenarios from being possible within the system. If she's been filing complaints for over a year that this guy has ripped off her nude pics, then why does she keep connecting to him and overnighting him hardware?
The linked video claims messages from "just last week" show him saying "you're a really good friend, Tara". Does that fit into a yearlong protracted tech support, supervisor invoking battle, or an off-duty chummy chum relationship gone sour?
Anyway, the company can't be legally punished needed or not until she takes this to the authorities instead of the media. Unfortunately, the authorities won't just parrot her sensational restacking of facts like the media does.
In other news, Bubble Boy was a hoax.
Well, the dell employee should be hanged upside down, that said, she certainly lowers the bar for dumb!
Yeah, but if you read all of the stories the "wtf" and "god your dumb" factor dissolves.
She began chatting with this guy due to tech support complaints. Then she started dating him online. She's still dating him now in fact, as they're still connected on facebook.
Claiming she talked to tech support about naked pictures (since he has them) and claiming the laptop had to do with resolving the naked pictures problem (since she sent that) is dissembling. She sent the laptop before the website went up.
Fact is she had a turbulent online affair. She probably got jerked around, but it didn't apparently have a thing to do with Dell: that's just how they met. Now she's running to the media (not the authorities) because she's pissed and she can paint this as a "tech support nightmare" "evil outsourcing" scenario and reap notoriety.
It took her this long to try a different strategy and go to the media
This all smells like balloon boy to me.
Not at all. Like I said, I've been where you are and done all that, and probably gone further into that lifestyle than you've ever thought of.
Alright, but now you've confused me with C64. I have never stepped foot in that lifestyle. I not only don't do weed, I don't drink or smoke either. I'm a teetotaler.
My stance is that you are confusing licence with obligation, and this is what I mean. I have the licence to partake in any number of vices that I simply do not. My character protects me from overindulgence, and to be honest I don't think I would have had the opportunity to grow my strength of character if external forces robbed me of the right to make those choices.
To say that a person cannot know whether licentious behavior is profitable or not is simply foolish. All around us every day we have examples, plus the examples from human history, that show us the results of licentiousness.
I suppose your right, since we can use real world evidence to perfectly predict which behaviors are harmful and since all people agree what this data is telling us at all times, let's start by outlawing the Catholic Church. Never in human history has any organization caused a greater amount of pain and suffering, and they are still a world power to this day. Since they have tortured and committed genocide in the past, we can assume they will continue to do so.
Or, maybe not everyone agrees after all. Maybe we cannot perfectly predict the future. Maybe some outcomes are statistically so likely we can call them obvious (shooting yourself in the head leads to death) while others are not so obvious and a cause for debate (owning a gun leads to death?) so that government restrictions to prevent stupidity (outlaw guns?) are left completely ineffective at improving lives on average; even if enforced with perfect fidelity.
Everyone agrees that hammering your thumb is foolish. Yet, to hammer a nail we absolutely have to take the risk of hitting our thumb. It is left to our personal skills and willpower to perform that final act of micromanagement. Government cannot be entrusted to do that.
I was pointing out that you are confused when you think license to sin is liberty. It isn't.
I think that licence to sin is exactly what liberty is. I think YOU confuse licence with obligation.
I deserve the freedom to choose to bang my thumb with a hammer. Without this "licence", I am not allowed to risk that consequence while trying to pound a standard nail via standard means. Without licence to take that risk, I must either put up with unreasonable thumb-protecting contrivances, or give up hammering nails completely.
The only alternative to a licence to do stupid things is an enforcement mechanism which takes upon itself to define what is stupid and thus what is forbidden. Such mechanism cannot represent your best interests, only their own. This is why "stupid" no longer means harming yourself, it means harming their profit margins.
This is how laws transform from keeping roads safe, to setting maximum driving speeds, to timing enforcement to encourage drivers to get lax and drive too fast and then harvest dividends busting them. This is how the war on crime turns into the war on drugs which turns into a protectionist monopoly where the government prosecutes every channel of availability of wildly popular narcotics to artificially inflate their value for the select few who fund the officials who make these decisions.
The only difference between liberty and licence, between freedom and licentiousness is either who it offends, or whether or not time demonstrates that it is profitable. The first is subjective and disingenuous while the second by definition cannot be predicted.
In the end a person — and the intervening efforts of their loved ones, church, or diety — are the arbiter of what is good or bad for them. Government should only concern themselves with disputes between different people.
Even the very wise cannot see all ends, and even the well intentioned cannot guarantee the intentions of their successor.
I read years back that Google's data centers use largely commodity servers and drives, but their operations assume so much data redundancy that no one drive failure hurts them. They pull the whole server whenever it suits them, plug a spare in and send it to the coroner.
It really just makes my ears bleed to hear that seven years after I've read this, most organizations are still futzing over the reliability or IOPS of single drives. Why cannot the reliability and access speed be spread over a larger number hardware instances, thus taking each one individually off the hook?
Many hands make lighter work, they say.
At the end of the day caching strategies will improve performance, but if you need guarantees you can't rely on cache.
Words of wisdom, friend. Average is only a shorthand for bulk volume, it's peaks which challenge your bottleneck.
In other words, the whole thing is an attempt to get companies to spend tens of thousands of dollars for something that could be done by well-written shell script.
To be fair, "well-written shell script" is only an inexpensive solution for the author of that shell script. When you purchase expensive product A, you aren't spending money on the solution you are spending money on anchoring your liability in case of catastrophe (software bug misreports disk usage leading to slapstick) against the provider of the solution.
Put simply, shell scripts are the thongs of the IT world. They are too skimpy to Cover Your Ass with. 8I
I agree with HungryHobo, but I also doubt the opposite side of that equation. How in hell do you estimate 100TB of storage costing $1 million usd? And over what time period? Per quarter, per annum? That works out to $10,000 per terabyte. I can pick up a 2TB SATA drive at frys for $180 (maybe less now). I have a Netgear SAN with 4 such drives at my house, running the equivalent of RAID 5 I've got 6TB in that alone. During the summer, my power bill is $40/mo, and I guarantee the SAN is a drop in that bucket compared to the other crazy gear running at my house.
No, what I think they did is tabbed up the total operating expense of some outfit somewhere and divided that into the size of their datacenter. Every accountant knows that Hookers and Blow should not be tabbed against disk capacity.
LARPers > Fan-fiction writers > Professional Data Sorting Competitors > Furries
w8, you left out that a good portion of LARPers and a resounding majority of Fan-fiction writers are Furries to begin with.
So, are we just randomly bashing on imagination-have, or? ;D
"100 bytes?" Why this arbitrary, ugly, sorry-ass excuse of a number? An elegant, round number like 64, 128... hell, even 96 would have been a sensible and far superior choice.
Because those are only round(ish) numbers in binary. Might make sense if you were sorting 1TiB of data, but they were not. Per TFA:
one terabyte of data (1,000 gigabytes or 1 million megabytes)
This clarifies that they were working with the SI prefix "Tera", meaning that powers of ten much more evenly divide. To whit, 10^2 byte records in a 10^12 byte dataset = exactly 10^10 (ten billion) specific records. 64 or 128 byte records would divide evenly into a non-round number of records, 96 byte records would not divide evenly.
This of course also assumes precisely 1TB of data, TFA suggests "more than" 1TB, so your guess is as good as mine. It might even be 1TiB, which is about 10% more.
Oh, fuck that. This is worthy of some serious competition to Adobe in the form of Flash Player Replacement options. SVG and Canvas are nice and all, but there must be alternate ways to view the same content similar to competing web browsers for viewing the same HTML.
We've been working on helping Homosexuals to come out of the closet for years, but now .. now it looks like we need to help the Homo SAPIENS come out of the closet, too.
Alright! Fine, you caught me! I'm human.
I can still get employed though, we just need to rejigger the Affirmative Action laws a bit. Let's say, make it illegal to base hiring decisions on non-legally-contested shit that went down more than 7 years ago. *shrug*
Mod parent up?
Slashdot only gives me mod points when I don't need 'em anyway D:
Then why aren't these other countries blowing the U.S. out of the water in terms of companies with huge valuations/profits/etc.?
Waitominute, did you straight up just ask "if they're so smart, why aren't they rich?"
What are you, a batman villain?
There's a trivial solution to that- erase all moderation on edit.
Fair enough, but should they erase all replies on edit too? Or can I trick someone into replying to me and then reword my OP to make them sound like a blithering idiot? :3
Another option would be to revoke edit privs once a reply is made, which would suck if you spent a lot of time editing prior to that happening.
All in all, I'm content with the Darwinism of the preview button. ;3
If your job was too much fun, they'd charge you money to be here.
True, so the idea is that your pay counterbalances the imposition on your time. You wouldn't pay to do this, you would not do it (consistently) pro bono, but the work is worth what you're being paid. You have other options at your disposal, but this is the best one (job satisfaction + pay + benefits) so you've chosen it. This doesn't describe suffering. There is an imposition on your time and responsibilities for which you are being compensated, but after that if you still hated it — assuming the option is available — you would escape.
Many jobs do not fit that mold however. Sometimes you are forced by circumstance to work somewhere. Sometimes you are roped into non-disclosure and non-compete agreements that prevent you from going elsewhere in your industry, and you lack the experience to get anywhere in another industry. Sometimes you're beholden to someone; blackmailed by the boss for example or indentured by a health plan. Sometimes this happens non-personally, such as building a household or lifestyle which then gets neglected by long hours on the job and stretched thinly enough that it cannot survive the shock of a job change.
This was common during the Great Depression, where anyone who could wave a tenner in the air could bully starving day workers into hazardous or reprehensible tasks. They couldn't afford to stand up for their rights (in either time or money) and society had squelched their complaints from the get go.
It is valuable for our society today to avoid going back down that path, and I recommend starting by thinking twice before dismissing the reality of unfair working conditions by assuming the market will always even things out.