I'd say in this case, GPL shouldn't matter to them because they're interacting with a company that, according to wikipedia, controls over 50% of the project anyhow.
I'm not even sure Microsoft's actually doing any sort of source change or anything, which would essentially mean no license burden.
As much as people think there's some sort of conspiracy for/against GPL, I think many other things matter more. Like ease of use, ease of integration, and convenience. The biggest fear that any company has regarding GPL isn't that GPL becomes popular. It's that GPL will force them into releasing private code.
Well, if you watch the video on that article, for the recycler they deal with (which they do note that they trust very few), you see actual blue collar white people with safety gear and all doing the disassembly.
So, for their particular program, it isn't some poor 3rd world child dying of lead poisoning.
Yes, you require an account, which is free. Actually, I haven't tried but I wouldn't be surprised if a standard user's iTunes account works for it too. Otherwise, you simply register at developer.apple.com
I have minimal experience using this particular interface. Given that the bug I filed was pretty direct and comprehensive, there was no discussion nor response. It simply got done. From what I understand, if the developer who gets the bug assigned wishes to, he can contact you back through it or email. But there isn't much in transparency; I wouldn't be surprised if there were log entries I can't see. Friends who work on campus have mentioned that this is typical. The reasoning being that if you don't directly work on the project, given the secrecy, there's little difference between the rest of the company (outside the project) and the rest of the world (anybody who happens to file a bug report).
I've never tried submitting code through it. I'd think that if somebody submitted code, and a developer saw it and really liked it, it could be picked up. But like any larger organization, people usually have stuff they're busy working on, so they probably don't have the time to integrate outside code.
It's not going to be as interactive as an open source project, no doubt about that. But, given what I know, it does allow a person to feed directly into the project developer's workflow. I think that is pretty cool. Especially for a company where employees arn't even supposed to know about the existence of other projects.
While I haven't tried Microsoft.... since I can't figure out if some things are bugs or features, Apple has this: http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/ It enters it into Apple's internal bug database.
And when I entered a bug against Safari 5.0.1, it was fixed in 5.0.2. Works for me.
It's great when it works. It's not great when it doesn't. My moto refuses to charge from a microusb connector unless it's a moto charger or a PC/Mac with drivers. The nokia 3555 has a microusb port and doesn't charge from it ever.
Uh, no. No matter how you look at it, Android phones, just like all the others will not let you mess with the modem's code. Hence not meeting the definition of "totally."
If you looked at a iPhone OS 1.0 device when they were first jailbroken, it was fairly apparent: 1) completely new UI widget library. 2) completely new display manager (for lack of better name of whatever you call the software necessary to make stuff appear on the screen.)
Essentially, think of how much time and effort it would take for the FOSS-world to take an existing Linux distro minus X11, port to a new architecture, and then build a whole new replacement for X11 and QT/KDE.
Uh what? VLC, mplayer, and WM6 seem to read itunes-edited mp3 tags fine.
And the DAAP locking was to prevent people from streaming somebody else's music library to a file (aka easy piracy mechanism). If share dumping utilities didn't exist, the locking wouldn't exist either.
As far as I know, no version of itunes behaves the way you describe. And while I can't say I've used every single dot revision, I've used every major version of iTunes since they were on OS 9 classic. And I used it specifically to help handle batch tag editing prior to getting an ipod.
There is a possibility that the preference for whether it not it organizes stuff for you, or the preference of whether or not to copy it into the iTunes-managed root folder may make it appear like what you said happened. But if so, the changes should exist in a set of mp3 files elsewhere.
The best way to handle folders in my opinion was and still is, to drag the folder into itunes' source list. It'll create a playlist with that folder's contents. Then within that playlist, select all the songs, to accomplish the batch edit. This way, you don't have to worry about missing a song with a mispelled artist tag or whatever.
I'd actually say that it's less about the memory of the original Droid and false hope, and more that people either don't know that it's different or don't care.
Most people I know with a Droid bought it because they couldn't get an iPhone, and while they're singing the praises of Android 2.1, they're using the stock ROMs. A few of them know you can hack it with cyanogenmod, but don't care to go through the effort. That's not the target audience of cyanogenmod anyways, nor of the slashdotter.
This gets into another problem; I'm sure there's a number of fanbois who'd rather not have a list of locked down Android phones exist because it undermine their argument that "Android is an open platform unlike the others." That runs counter to those who do want to make sure manufacturers suffer for bringing out closed devices.
So far, I've seen more devices using Mini-DisplayPort than "full-sized" DisplayPort.
So... I mean, we could fail to support HDCP content playback and use DVI and have incompatibility issues with knowing if it's dual-link or not.... Or we can pay extra per device to use HDMI and have all sorts of incompatibility issues and less bandwidth.....
Or we can use Mini-DisplayPort.
Just because Toshiba, HP, and Apple all decided on using a new standard you wern't aware of doesn't mean it's proprietary.
(plus, on the same exact hardware, linux md-raid and freebsd zfs compared, linux keeps up (no pauses) and is overall faster on nfs and samba than bsd/zfs is. and zfs really 'wants' at least 4gb to run. that's asking too much, too, I think).
That's because linux mdraid doesn't provide you anything like checksumming amongst whatever other features you might be using. So yeah, I'm sure ext3 and fat32 are plenty fast compared to ZFS, but if you're running ZFS, fast wasn't the point, was it?
(I'm using ZFS on 2GB of ram over gigE (EON Solaris NAS distro), works fine for me)
Actually, he qualified his group a little more than you might have realized.
Plainly, the fact that you have no qualms about using closed-source software excludes you from the group he's criticizing. So, he's not comparing you to the fundies. He's grouping you with the pragmatic people.
"Once a driver's been released, it's good forever."
Actually, it's not. Years ago, some video capture cards and RAID cards were even in kernel tree, and eventually removed because they didn't feel like supporting it anymore.
And.... comparing to Microsoft? Really? That's like judging all American cars based off the Ford Pinto.
Solaris has had a reasonable stable ABI, I heard of people pulling in closed source Solaris 8 x86 network card drivers to use on OpenSolaris and it worked. Simply put, just because MS and the Linux community can't do it, doesn't automatically mean it sucks.
It seems most companies already have the "ultimate solution." Ignore them. Given that there was an article saying 2004 really was the year of Linux on the desktop, I'd say it seems to work.
Probably because managing a database of already scanned files is a lot of overhead. Whether it is more or less than scanning, I don't know. I just know it's not trivial.
See, here's the thing, the way I see it, a 64-bit hypervisor isn't any more impressive than a 32-bit one since once you've done it once on an arch, telescoping it isn't any more impressive. Besides, it's not like VirtualBox, Parallels, or VirtualPC is all that much different.
Likewise, we've seen the iPhone basically eclipse Blackberry in everything but giving up security to foreign nations. And the Android phones might be open, but they're certainly nowhere near quality on their feature sets.
All in all it's the same story. Some people think what a company does is a big deal, others don't. The fact is, nothing's new. It's all built on stuff from the past. How you build it is what actually matters.
Caring about their workers is cool and all, but it's not like that makes them special. There are other companies who care about their workers including Google and Apple. Heck, slashdot's favorite scapegoat Microsoft seems to care quite a bit about their workers. (yes, I have close friends at all 4 companies)
And Qt/Trolltech? Once again, why should we care? It's not like it's useful to me or results in a product that I'd buy. It's not going to help my nokia 3555 flip phone either. Besides, there's plenty of other companies who contribute stuff useful to open source that I do care about.
The Nomad's nothing special, just another copy off the Rio.
PressPlay's just a music version of old Vivo/RealNetworks-based porn sites.
Prior to the iPhone, Blackberry, and WinMo devices, there was the Palm VII. Which wouldn't have made it onto the market if it wern't for the PalmPilot. Which wouldn't have been designed if Palm didn't have money from selling Graffiti on the Apple Newton platform. Which wouldn't have made it onto the market without help from Sharp and their experience with the Zaurus handhelds.
Tablet PC works by combining Windows XP with handwriting and gesture recognition tech from ParaGraph which was funded by their prior licensing on the Apple Newton. Besides, Tablet PC is predated by another Microsoft Windows Pen Computing effort.
At what point in time do you distingush between polisher and innovator?
I'd say in this case, GPL shouldn't matter to them because they're interacting with a company that, according to wikipedia, controls over 50% of the project anyhow.
I'm not even sure Microsoft's actually doing any sort of source change or anything, which would essentially mean no license burden.
As much as people think there's some sort of conspiracy for/against GPL, I think many other things matter more. Like ease of use, ease of integration, and convenience. The biggest fear that any company has regarding GPL isn't that GPL becomes popular. It's that GPL will force them into releasing private code.
Well, if you watch the video on that article, for the recycler they deal with (which they do note that they trust very few), you see actual blue collar white people with safety gear and all doing the disassembly.
So, for their particular program, it isn't some poor 3rd world child dying of lead poisoning.
Yes, you require an account, which is free. Actually, I haven't tried but I wouldn't be surprised if a standard user's iTunes account works for it too. Otherwise, you simply register at developer.apple.com
I have minimal experience using this particular interface.
Given that the bug I filed was pretty direct and comprehensive, there was no discussion nor response. It simply got done.
From what I understand, if the developer who gets the bug assigned wishes to, he can contact you back through it or email. But there isn't much in transparency; I wouldn't be surprised if there were log entries I can't see. Friends who work on campus have mentioned that this is typical. The reasoning being that if you don't directly work on the project, given the secrecy, there's little difference between the rest of the company (outside the project) and the rest of the world (anybody who happens to file a bug report).
I've never tried submitting code through it. I'd think that if somebody submitted code, and a developer saw it and really liked it, it could be picked up. But like any larger organization, people usually have stuff they're busy working on, so they probably don't have the time to integrate outside code.
It's not going to be as interactive as an open source project, no doubt about that.
But, given what I know, it does allow a person to feed directly into the project developer's workflow. I think that is pretty cool. Especially for a company where employees arn't even supposed to know about the existence of other projects.
While I haven't tried Microsoft.... since I can't figure out if some things are bugs or features, Apple has this: http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/
It enters it into Apple's internal bug database.
And when I entered a bug against Safari 5.0.1, it was fixed in 5.0.2. Works for me.
It's great when it works. It's not great when it doesn't.
My moto refuses to charge from a microusb connector unless it's a moto charger or a PC/Mac with drivers.
The nokia 3555 has a microusb port and doesn't charge from it ever.
do you really think you can totally re-program a phone from open source code?
Uh yes? http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
Uh, no. No matter how you look at it, Android phones, just like all the others will not let you mess with the modem's code. Hence not meeting the definition of "totally."
If you looked at a iPhone OS 1.0 device when they were first jailbroken, it was fairly apparent:
1) completely new UI widget library.
2) completely new display manager (for lack of better name of whatever you call the software necessary to make stuff appear on the screen.)
Essentially, think of how much time and effort it would take for the FOSS-world to take an existing Linux distro minus X11, port to a new architecture, and then build a whole new replacement for X11 and QT/KDE.
For this, you should blame Android.
Your Eris runs a 530Mhz ARM11, I think.
Your old school Motorola runs probably a 16Mhz or 33Mhz ARM7, probably. (E815 ftw!)
Over 20x faster hardware isn't going to make up for crappily made software.
Uh what?
VLC, mplayer, and WM6 seem to read itunes-edited mp3 tags fine.
And the DAAP locking was to prevent people from streaming somebody else's music library to a file (aka easy piracy mechanism). If share dumping utilities didn't exist, the locking wouldn't exist either.
As far as I know, no version of itunes behaves the way you describe. And while I can't say I've used every single dot revision, I've used every major version of iTunes since they were on OS 9 classic. And I used it specifically to help handle batch tag editing prior to getting an ipod.
There is a possibility that the preference for whether it not it organizes stuff for you, or the preference of whether or not to copy it into the iTunes-managed root folder may make it appear like what you said happened. But if so, the changes should exist in a set of mp3 files elsewhere.
The best way to handle folders in my opinion was and still is, to drag the folder into itunes' source list. It'll create a playlist with that folder's contents.
Then within that playlist, select all the songs, to accomplish the batch edit. This way, you don't have to worry about missing a song with a mispelled artist tag or whatever.
I'd actually say that it's less about the memory of the original Droid and false hope, and more that people either don't know that it's different or don't care.
Most people I know with a Droid bought it because they couldn't get an iPhone, and while they're singing the praises of Android 2.1, they're using the stock ROMs. A few of them know you can hack it with cyanogenmod, but don't care to go through the effort. That's not the target audience of cyanogenmod anyways, nor of the slashdotter.
This gets into another problem; I'm sure there's a number of fanbois who'd rather not have a list of locked down Android phones exist because it undermine their argument that "Android is an open platform unlike the others." That runs counter to those who do want to make sure manufacturers suffer for bringing out closed devices.
So far, I've seen more devices using Mini-DisplayPort than "full-sized" DisplayPort.
So... I mean, we could fail to support HDCP content playback and use DVI and have incompatibility issues with knowing if it's dual-link or not....
Or we can pay extra per device to use HDMI and have all sorts of incompatibility issues and less bandwidth.....
Or we can use Mini-DisplayPort.
Just because Toshiba, HP, and Apple all decided on using a new standard you wern't aware of doesn't mean it's proprietary.
(plus, on the same exact hardware, linux md-raid and freebsd zfs compared, linux keeps up (no pauses) and is overall faster on nfs and samba than bsd/zfs is. and zfs really 'wants' at least 4gb to run. that's asking too much, too, I think).
That's because linux mdraid doesn't provide you anything like checksumming amongst whatever other features you might be using.
So yeah, I'm sure ext3 and fat32 are plenty fast compared to ZFS, but if you're running ZFS, fast wasn't the point, was it?
(I'm using ZFS on 2GB of ram over gigE (EON Solaris NAS distro), works fine for me)
Actually, he qualified his group a little more than you might have realized.
Plainly, the fact that you have no qualms about using closed-source software excludes you from the group he's criticizing.
So, he's not comparing you to the fundies. He's grouping you with the pragmatic people.
Well, when you're on a platform with not many games, demand is higher, eh?
"Once a driver's been released, it's good forever."
Actually, it's not. Years ago, some video capture cards and RAID cards were even in kernel tree, and eventually removed because they didn't feel like supporting it anymore.
And.... comparing to Microsoft? Really? That's like judging all American cars based off the Ford Pinto.
Solaris has had a reasonable stable ABI, I heard of people pulling in closed source Solaris 8 x86 network card drivers to use on OpenSolaris and it worked. Simply put, just because MS and the Linux community can't do it, doesn't automatically mean it sucks.
It seems most companies already have the "ultimate solution." Ignore them.
Given that there was an article saying 2004 really was the year of Linux on the desktop, I'd say it seems to work.
I heard Google did it already. It's called "yuu tuubue" or something like that.
"Flamebait" is the closest we have to "Dumbest idea ever".
"Troll" is the closest we have to "Dumbest idea ever... as a prank".
Given the range, what else could we bin it into? (all assuming i didn't miss any other negative mods)
Probably because managing a database of already scanned files is a lot of overhead. Whether it is more or less than scanning, I don't know. I just know it's not trivial.
An Intel exec starring on, "I'm on a muthafucking boat!" ?
Seriously? I'm with you on the harbor with this one. What the heck is Intel thinking of doing?
Huh? You fail to state how or why.
And why do you expect Intel to be able to improve McAfee any bit? We're talking about Intel, the creator of the Pentium 4, FB-DIMMS, and the i740.
(I do own Intel stock. I just wish I didn't.)
Nope, a 32-bit hypervisor was available in the 1970s.
A 64-bit hypervisor was available in 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System/370
See, here's the thing, the way I see it, a 64-bit hypervisor isn't any more impressive than a 32-bit one since once you've done it once on an arch, telescoping it isn't any more impressive.
Besides, it's not like VirtualBox, Parallels, or VirtualPC is all that much different.
Likewise, we've seen the iPhone basically eclipse Blackberry in everything but giving up security to foreign nations. And the Android phones might be open, but they're certainly nowhere near quality on their feature sets.
All in all it's the same story. Some people think what a company does is a big deal, others don't. The fact is, nothing's new. It's all built on stuff from the past. How you build it is what actually matters.
So why should we care?
Caring about their workers is cool and all, but it's not like that makes them special. There are other companies who care about their workers including Google and Apple. Heck, slashdot's favorite scapegoat Microsoft seems to care quite a bit about their workers. (yes, I have close friends at all 4 companies)
And Qt/Trolltech? Once again, why should we care? It's not like it's useful to me or results in a product that I'd buy. It's not going to help my nokia 3555 flip phone either. Besides, there's plenty of other companies who contribute stuff useful to open source that I do care about.
The Nomad's nothing special, just another copy off the Rio.
PressPlay's just a music version of old Vivo/RealNetworks-based porn sites.
Prior to the iPhone, Blackberry, and WinMo devices, there was the Palm VII. Which wouldn't have made it onto the market if it wern't for the PalmPilot.
Which wouldn't have been designed if Palm didn't have money from selling Graffiti on the Apple Newton platform. Which wouldn't have made it onto the market without help from Sharp and their experience with the Zaurus handhelds.
Tablet PC works by combining Windows XP with handwriting and gesture recognition tech from ParaGraph which was funded by their prior licensing on the Apple Newton. Besides, Tablet PC is predated by another Microsoft Windows Pen Computing effort.
At what point in time do you distingush between polisher and innovator?