The Java runtime has to load also, which makes a _significant_ difference in startup time.
As much as I don't like M$, when you click a.doc file and open it with Word, usually it's up within 3-5 seconds.
Oo.o takes upwards of 30 cuz it has to load the Java libraries, etc, displaying the splash screen of doom in the meantime.
I'm not sure about the US, but i know that in Canada they make considerably less because of incredulous taxation.
Factor in repayment of student / teachers college loans and the ammount of disposable income decreases even further.
Agreed it's about on par with an 'average' salary, but as another poster pointed out, these teachers have at least a bachelors, and should be compared with others as such.
I guess it comes back to my point that to me, our kids are the future and that is worth more than all the bombs you can drop or all the oil you can siphon from a well.
Whereas this will, undoubtedly, create discontent, I personally support anything that gives teachers more money and students more incentive to do better.
Teachers work their asses off and mould students to be the leaders of tomorrow. Isn't that worth more than a pittance?
As someone who is self-taught in computers (now a *nix Systems Admin), I loathed Math in HS because I saw little point to it. I was never explained 'why' math can be interesting, and it hurt me when i wanted to take CS a few years after I graduated.
Anyways, point being: there isn't enough youthful motivation in school, and nor are the teachers compensated for their efforts enough, so huzzah to anything that trys to change that. Even if it does nothing 'practical' or immediate, it at least gains some exposure to the situation.
I pronounce it that way too. I used to say 'eee-tee-see' until I heard my predecessor sysadmin use 'et-see'.
I just find that it rolls off nicer for me.
The nice thing about diversity is that everyone's going to have a different interpretation of the meaning and pronunciation, but in the end it's just/etc. Like religion... a hundred ways of vocalizing something that can't be truly vocalized.
Same here. Also, i get weird flash issues on the mac with FF. Some pages with flash render my keyboard useless in that tab on FF until i open a full new browser window.
Over time, i also notice that FF consumes more and more memory, but I've found in my experience that it is much less than in Windows.
As a result, I've gotten in the habit of having FF open for certain pages, and Safari open for others. Oh how i wish Safari had tabs:)
Poor Support
+ 3 Days no response, lost tickets, answers they gave were wrong and unhelpful
Not fully functional CSS-Based API
+ They have 2 apps for their API, one is cookie-cut, the other is CSS + php (zend) driven, but lacks lots of functionality. It took our developers some time to get things to work in the test environment, and when we did they messed up our tld's among other missing options. Support was unhelpful in fixing this (and it never got fixed)
Lack of Faith
+ Taking 3 days to answer an email, and not being helpful with their answers, combined with their closed-source api (zend encrypted, what a pain that was to get running!), just spells 'no future' in my opinion.
There are other reasons, but those are the ones that impacted my job directly. The other stuff was a bother to the sales folks, so I can't comment on them. Likely it's support and strange money issues, but as the SysAdmin, I'm not certain.
I'm sure folks have had great results using them and their services, I've just got an ill taste in my mouth because of the support related issues.
I totally agree, power corrupts and is like crack to some execs.
I'm curious, however, what sort of involvement eNom had with the situation... My company was thinking of using them as a registrar (cuz Tucows sucks...) but if they're caught up in this debacle, i don't see it as being a good option...
Anyone know of a good registrar with a decent reseller API??
With comodity hardware getting faster and cheaper by the minute, having a system that can handle a higher than average load with optimized software is, imho, a winner.
I'm sure everyone here can add some anecdotal evidence to how they had a heavy-hardware, database serving machine die on them because of some software bug.
This is one of the reasons I've been looking forward to ZFS. Hopefully the DB guru's will take the best of what's good about software, drop the legacy crap and really deliver something that's going to handle the kind of load that a good slashdotting delivers with hardware that didn't require a lease to be affordable.
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I'm using OS X and FF on my MacBook Pro, and apparently I need to upgrade to XP.
For my next trick, I'm going to grow gills. Take THAT progress!
yah, i mean what a comment... is this guy new? Somewhat reminds me of the South Park episode where gates gets lynched for touting the benefits of windows 98 (or was it 95?)
But either way, there are new exploits for windows every day... i want some of whatever the heck he's smoking.
omg i almost spit my coffee out laughing at that one!
And i do agree with you on the point earlier about every distro having forums and docs. Obviously they do, i've just found it much simpler to find answers for gentoo problems than with other distros because the community tends to know a little more about what's actually going on than with binary distros.
The promise of Gentoo for me is being able to continually upgrade and never get outside of that window of support.
I agree. Every now and then a program's latest version doesn't agree with a config script somewhere, but that's what etc-update is for. If something borks, you can always ask the gentoo forums, which is an invaluable source of information for all things gentoo. That and the gentoo-wiki.
Also, no one is 'requiring' anyone to upgrade. I administer hundreds of gentoo servers and you don't always need to keep up to date to be secure. Part of the nice thing about gentoo is that you're only installing the packages you need, so if you know of a vulnerability in a script you use, you don't have to upgrade your whole portage tree just to plug a hole.
I understand what you mean in that eventually all things will just be digital and there's little that can be done to avoid that.
However, in the context of voting, I would suggest that no digital system is secure enough for something as important as the vote.
You can put all the safeguards you want in place, but that can't stop one system admin with an agenda (or other 'insider' with access to the necessary tools), from exercising their own sort of 'veto power'.
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The Java runtime has to load also, which makes a _significant_ difference in startup time.
.doc file and open it with Word, usually it's up within 3-5 seconds.
As much as I don't like M$, when you click a
Oo.o takes upwards of 30 cuz it has to load the Java libraries, etc, displaying the splash screen of doom in the meantime.
We can make it better, faster, stronger. :)
Now if we could only rewrite Windows from the ground up
obviously we all get taxed, but it is my understanding that teachers in Canada are taxed _more_ than average.
I'm not sure about the US, but i know that in Canada they make considerably less because of incredulous taxation.
Factor in repayment of student / teachers college loans and the ammount of disposable income decreases even further.
Agreed it's about on par with an 'average' salary, but as another poster pointed out, these teachers have at least a bachelors, and should be compared with others as such.
I guess it comes back to my point that to me, our kids are the future and that is worth more than all the bombs you can drop or all the oil you can siphon from a well.
Whereas this will, undoubtedly, create discontent, I personally support anything that gives teachers more money and students more incentive to do better.
Teachers work their asses off and mould students to be the leaders of tomorrow. Isn't that worth more than a pittance?
As someone who is self-taught in computers (now a *nix Systems Admin), I loathed Math in HS because I saw little point to it. I was never explained 'why' math can be interesting, and it hurt me when i wanted to take CS a few years after I graduated.
Anyways, point being: there isn't enough youthful motivation in school, and nor are the teachers compensated for their efforts enough, so huzzah to anything that trys to change that. Even if it does nothing 'practical' or immediate, it at least gains some exposure to the situation.
Unreal Tournament 2003 and 2004 has a native Linux client also... =)
( I can't remember if UT'99 has one also...?)
I pronounce it that way too. I used to say 'eee-tee-see' until I heard my predecessor sysadmin use 'et-see'.
/etc. Like religion... a hundred ways of vocalizing something that can't be truly vocalized.
I just find that it rolls off nicer for me.
The nice thing about diversity is that everyone's going to have a different interpretation of the meaning and pronunciation, but in the end it's just
wow... /headasplode
Can you tell I'm new to the Mac? I do enjoy figuring out all the little nuances =)
Over time, i also notice that FF consumes more and more memory, but I've found in my experience that it is much less than in Windows.
As a result, I've gotten in the habit of having FF open for certain pages, and Safari open for others. Oh how i wish Safari had tabs
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Poor Support
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Not fully functional CSS-Based API
- Lack of Faith
There are other reasons, but those are the ones that impacted my job directly. The other stuff was a bother to the sales folks, so I can't comment on them. Likely it's support and strange money issues, but as the SysAdmin, I'm not certain.+ 3 Days no response, lost tickets, answers they gave were wrong and unhelpful
+ They have 2 apps for their API, one is cookie-cut, the other is CSS + php (zend) driven, but lacks lots of functionality. It took our developers some time to get things to work in the test environment, and when we did they messed up our tld's among other missing options. Support was unhelpful in fixing this (and it never got fixed)
+ Taking 3 days to answer an email, and not being helpful with their answers, combined with their closed-source api (zend encrypted, what a pain that was to get running!), just spells 'no future' in my opinion.
I'm sure folks have had great results using them and their services, I've just got an ill taste in my mouth because of the support related issues.
I totally agree, power corrupts and is like crack to some execs.
I'm curious, however, what sort of involvement eNom had with the situation... My company was thinking of using them as a registrar (cuz Tucows sucks...) but if they're caught up in this debacle, i don't see it as being a good option...
Anyone know of a good registrar with a decent reseller API??
Super Tonio?
A later study will find that Gamma rays somehow affected the myostatin mutations.
2 new breeds of super-cow await... German Grey and Georgian Green...
I didn't mention that it was Open Source.
...or were you not actually replying to me?
Which one of us is confused?
Now i got myself all confused =\
This is totally what we need.
With comodity hardware getting faster and cheaper by the minute, having a system that can handle a higher than average load with optimized software is, imho, a winner.
I'm sure everyone here can add some anecdotal evidence to how they had a heavy-hardware, database serving machine die on them because of some software bug.
This is one of the reasons I've been looking forward to ZFS. Hopefully the DB guru's will take the best of what's good about software, drop the legacy crap and really deliver something that's going to handle the kind of load that a good slashdotting delivers with hardware that didn't require a lease to be affordable.
For my next trick, I'm going to grow gills. Take THAT progress!
MS will be modifying the interface to look more like Outlook's GUI
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Sing from your fucking heart!!
I want my rockstars dead!!
Bill Hicks says it best =)
yah, i mean what a comment... is this guy new? Somewhat reminds me of the South Park episode where gates gets lynched for touting the benefits of windows 98 (or was it 95?)
But either way, there are new exploits for windows every day... i want some of whatever the heck he's smoking.
Since when is having a happy populace providing feedback to encourage positive change in our governments a bad thing?
omg i almost spit my coffee out laughing at that one!
And i do agree with you on the point earlier about every distro having forums and docs. Obviously they do, i've just found it much simpler to find answers for gentoo problems than with other distros because the community tends to know a little more about what's actually going on than with binary distros.
The promise of Gentoo for me is being able to continually upgrade and never get outside of that window of support.
I agree. Every now and then a program's latest version doesn't agree with a config script somewhere, but that's what etc-update is for. If something borks, you can always ask the gentoo forums, which is an invaluable source of information for all things gentoo. That and the gentoo-wiki.
Also, no one is 'requiring' anyone to upgrade. I administer hundreds of gentoo servers and you don't always need to keep up to date to be secure. Part of the nice thing about gentoo is that you're only installing the packages you need, so if you know of a vulnerability in a script you use, you don't have to upgrade your whole portage tree just to plug a hole.
I understand what you mean in that eventually all things will just be digital and there's little that can be done to avoid that.
However, in the context of voting, I would suggest that no digital system is secure enough for something as important as the vote.
You can put all the safeguards you want in place, but that can't stop one system admin with an agenda (or other 'insider' with access to the necessary tools), from exercising their own sort of 'veto power'.