You dumb ass jack ass who has poor language skills mods me a troll? My comment is in line with others who welcome Leopard running on PC hardware. My comment is obviously a "Wow!", as in cool. Phooey on you...
I wonder if this will get some people into trouble when they try to get cute and build logs on government operations.
Damn. I cannot find the site, but there is one that essentially is titled "IP Addresses to NEVER Ping..." if you want to avoid trouble with the law. It contained thousands of addresses, hundreds of class group names, and these are held by universities, BBN, ATT, NSA, CIA, DEA, DIS, NIS, and all sorts of other alphabet soup letters.
with a Manual Guide... I wonder when this application will "cock up" (in English parlance) and screw over people not part of the serve.. sir vail-ance... umm surveillance.
I thought many of these ISP and ISP parent companies had stated officially that they had issues with excessive data retention (storage space, processing of the enormous data sets, legal issues, etc...). Now, this, from one company that is probably going to make some enemies.
What good (other than government surveillance and corporate marketing) can come from this without harming privacy?
"Isn't this just solving a problem which doesn't really exist?"
No, it isn't. Consider this: This technology could be applied to buses (is in some ways, if one considers non-gasoline/non-diesel buses) and free the pole-powered buses of delays causes when the bus ahead (or, the trolley car on tracks using a different power line but is somehow obstructing the bus' run) breaks down or, (in the case of SF MUNI) when some passenger threatens or harasses the driver, who then says (after a few warnings-- especially when a jackass boards without intent to pay, and haggles the driver) "This bus is going out of service; another bus is about 7 minutes behind me...), deboards everyone, then SITS there with the poles STILL UP on the grid. I saw something like this, one day, when the driver ahead of us had an attitude and wouldn't drop his poles, pissing off the driver of MY bus, and the two almost got into a pissing match.
Rails are a problem for rail cars, especially those raggedy-assed cars from around the world that SF MUNI runs. Some of them make weird-assed noises that got some of us imitating them, laughing, and then getting tired of it. Even the tourists got in on it. I think it was the Milan car, earlier this year. Other cars are irritating, too. The brakes and padding and friction noise are sometimes unnerving. Pumps or fly-wheels or compressors on them (underneath the carriage) are annoying, yet these raggedy assed cars are in service.
Taking power lines OUT of service might become a union issue if jobs become threatened. Doesn't matter how MANY, just that JOBS are threatened. Some people will be forced to retrain, or be retired or transferred, probably at the same (assume a $20+/hour) pay even if the job is less paid normally.
But, not having rail cars or buses dependent upon overhead lines or in-ground rails would be nice. It would be nice if the MUNI rail cars could be decoupled from the overhead. Then, eventually, the rails could be obsoleted. At that point, the severe commute-hours backups that the N-Judah and other lines have when one end of the underground stations get(s) (say, at Embarcadero, where it's busy as hell) backed up can be a thing of the past. The driver can just reroute and at least keep the carriage in motion since some of the tubes/tunnels could still be used if not blocked. Ahh, but again, jobs... under... threat..
Well, tell them, "YOU SERVER THE PUBLIC! Step down, co-exist, or take a bullet. But the public has been FUCKED enough."
The only reason such a split doesn't work is because of human greed and arrogance. Parties pushing agendas, issuing spin, and deceiving the public is how they work, and they won't take the job unless they can screw us over as much as they can get away with.
It's not supposed to be US working for them, but THEM working for US, and they don't understand that. Not with all that corrupt corporate/SIG income they get.
"MS's horrible marketing has really failed on Vista"
But, somehow ms' marketing must've worked mostly elsewhere? I am thinking henchman/strongarm tactics, the de facto ubiquity of windows on (almost) all new hardware systems sold, and the fear of or the too much laziness to change or try non-ms systems for things NOT needing to be done in windows.
For all the money ms spends on marketing (and "marketing dollars") and advertising, it's amazing they seem (by some accounts) to have failed to impress people.
(Too bad, though, that COMPIZ and Beryl didn't get onto basic machines (with supporting graphics cards) in stores as a side-by-side comparison to vista's desktop. But, then people would demand things like Mac's Garage Band's non-existing Linux equivalents, DX10, intense FPS, etc.)
In the case of the current sitting occupant of the oval office, he'd be fitted with an ear but, and there'd be a time delay, as is invisible prompt would cue him the answers.
(An aside: In any case, the Obama and Clinton should run together, irrespective of to WHOM the P/VP seat goes. They should just say, "we'll trade seats half-way into the term, and if we win re-election we'll alternate, again."
Hell, for that matter (since the goddamn corrupt parties ONLY want D/R alternations, the P/VP should be one D, one R in the SAME office election, then rotate half-way thru the term. This way, the assholes would (theoretically) be COMPELLED to "get work done". They couldn't bicker as much in the SAME office since blame would fall at BOTH their feet.)
"Now MS will have to compete against a working, installed OS that is on the laptops, based on their own merit. Since Linux can be free, including Windows will increase the price, and might not be as usable."
and to your comments, I hope that courts will QUICKLY rule this as "dumping" by microsoft. I fear, though, that the courts might be swayed into thinking that "microsoft is just protecting its COMMERCIAL turf. Since Linux generally is not SOLD commercially parallel to ms and other computer products, then Linux is the product that is being dumped onto the market, fragmenting it and confusing users."
That would be scary. Sadly, ms just can't accept competition nicely. If their invasion of OLPC hardware gains momentum, it'll be worse in magnitude than Linux and other OS's gaining ground on generic PC hardware.
They ARE, though, probably trying to make it difficult for others to operate a mixed environment, probably on an assumption or finding that LOTS of admins use GUI features, or don't use SSH effectively.
They're probably grousing and anticipated unfavorable EU court outcome. So, maybe they're just wielding their balls.
ripping off potential site names, I DO grouse (privately, usually) that a topic I submit is instead posted by someone else. I am pretty sure I submitted it to slash, but someone else gets credit. I suppose Slash only wants stories by non-controversial or non-looney types.
My submission/post, at 12:36 on Thursday:
" TrollTech's GreenPhone discontinued... [ Edit | Delete | 0 Comments | #185749 ] Thursday October 25, @12:36PM User Journal Nothing emotional or rhetorical in this story submission. But, I did not see this coming. However, according to the article:
"Despite the announcement of the discontinuation of its flagship mobile phone development platform, the company also announced that the mobile phone would be superceded by a number of new devices, including that of portable media devices and additional mobile phones, although the new models are to be distributed by third-parties."
It's doubtful that Microsoft could encourage or coerce Negroponte to put XP on the machine, so whose arms will they twist?"
Governments'. Corrupt governments' arms. Ones that crave money, fame, and other gratification from relationships with large (generally corrupt) companies.
Something the "first guy" (xin loi toi, toi ten my den...), hehehe forgot is:
Laches is an appropriate and convenient name. IF a company KNOWS it is being infringed upon, and delays inappropriately, and then tries to sue in court, it should suffer LASHES, as in LASHING!
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm just so passionate about Lotus SmartSuite, and I am jaded and bitter that OO.o and even ms office have some 20-30 things that S/S ought to have, without any dramatic changes in the interface, though. I guess I need to relax. In any case, it seems that VirtualBox will ease my dependency upon Win4Lin, and I will be able to in solitude use SmartSuite (particularly Approach, Word Pro, and 1-2-3.)
(yes, for that stalker of mine who likes modding me offtopic, I know you'll be looking for me...)
Anyway...
"It's available with 1st party software. It's kind of lame, but it does the job."
So, I checked out the page, and it was like "Ahh, I remember that, back like hundreds of years ago..."
So... I am
ROTMFFLMGDAO... from having read:
"Virtual Desktop Manager
Manage up to four desktops from the Windows taskbar with this PowerToy."
LOL!
I have *8* to *10*, and have had more, and KDE allows around 16 IIRC. I have my virtual desktops change images every few minutes or so (longer, much longer if I don't want huge images chewing my sys resources), each desk top with its OWN set of images, all pointing to some 30+ for each desktop.
Moreover, my machine is an 800 MHz Gateway Select, from 1999, with 256 MB RAM, 64 MB video card, and all this going on in PCLinuxOS with Win4Lin running Win98 in the b/g so I can use Lotus SmartSuite while doing my other things, like using the Rhythmbox and watching DVDs.
aSSHOLE. The topic to which I responded is about or digressed into people who have or don't have undying love for msoft and Linux. What I am talking about is the guttural, visceral pain people go through BECAUSE of not getting what they want. Fanboys for Linux and fanboys for microsoft/name your company can come from the SAME cloth as the person whose "undying love" for Linux is being talked about.
Some people on this site have to little depth of mind.
And, there are those like myself who, once we found Linux, pretty much had NO reason to use microsoft products. I USE windows98 only to load Lotus SmartSuite, and to play around with various windows-environment applications that I hardly ever notice. Without Lotus SmartSuite, I'd pretty much have NO reson to use ANY microsoft product.
SO, I despise, utterly LOATHE and would wipe out with my magic wand, if I had one, microsoft's existence. Not because I LOVE Linux (I do, in that it gives me a way to escape much of msoft) but because more than ANY other company, I deSPISE how they operate. Not that others don't engage in some of the same practices ms does, but that they aren't IN MY FACE with lies. Hard drives, games, obscure hardware... I can evade. But, come to work, go to the library, book an appointment, whatever, I always have that lying, megalomanical, corporation-killing, Linux-attacking, FUD-mix-master machine (not ALL its employees, but the key ones) around.
I don't HATE ms because gates et al are filthy rich, I hate ms because they STOLE more of the computing world than anyone or any other company, are too damn powerful to wrest it back from them, and too many suckers are "born a minute" and don't venture outside.
By the SAME token, I despise those in Linuxland who keep designing applications for an audience they THINK will join Linux, but who keep designing CRAPWARE (by interface and operation) that mystifies, befuddles, and infuriates users TRYING to make an earnest effort to give Linux more than a few frustrating hours.
I PUT UP with Linux in my first few months. I had the time, the will, and the anti-ms rhetoric driving me. I also create 'applications', mainly obscure database interfaces via Lotus Approach. I have to use Approach because there are NO widgets or full-fledge apps that let me do 90% of what Lotus Approach (the award-winning, end-user, no-programming-required) relational database front end does, and NO word processors that work like Lotus Word Pro does for me.
On the SAME token, I'm close to despising IBM (never mind all the contributions to open source), but they arrogantly act as if their users are supposed to be CORPORATIONS, not individuals. A LOT of people and open source projects could benefit from WHATEVER (not just token bits, and ragged-ware like Symphony) IBM/Lotus CAN release to open source.
They WON'T work better with Sun (so far as I can see) to come out with exciting stun-ware for end users. I cannot accept that EVERYthing in SmartSuite is so deeply externally owned that IBM cannot even decompile the thing and say, "Here, Open Source Community, we've removed the non-IBM, non-Lotus stuff. If you can restore the functionality for ingrates like David Syes, you're a better set of people (albeit on a different mission) than we.
No. Won't happen. Symphony could have waited 6 more months, and should have looked like SMARTSUITE, not that ragged crippleware we saw. I tried it and almost had a thrombosis, anurism, and and cataleptic fit all at once. A major waste of resources, given that they've owned SmartSuite since, what, 1997, and Lotus possessed Symphony since maybe 1992. Repeatedly, hearteningly, a lot of us beg, cried, and drooled for IBM to come to our END-USER aid, and we idealistically or stupidly failed to realize that IBM CARES ABOUT COMPANIES, NOT INDIVIDUALS, not entrepreneurs, not fringe.
*I* know how the Earth is only 6,000 (pseudo) years old. Lazarus (with the scar) time-traveled in that scaled-down one-seat Jupiter II (or, was it a prototype of the Federation Time Ship Aeon and Lazarus REALLy was Braxton?). He happened to have a bible that Kirk kept as a memory of Edith Keeler when he and Spock held (each other?) up in that "flop" (flop-house?) when they needed to find some bones.
Now, THAT would REALLY be an "old" "testament" of sorts.
Only problem, the quantum slipstreams keep getting slipped up. They must've crossed with the tubs that senator (a slightly GM/corn-fed modified copy of Lazarus) polluted OUR timeline with the term "tubes" when he meant to say "subspace beacons".
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I say they were HOBBITS. The tracks are their HOBBITRAILS... these were the precursors to the hunter-killer packs. These had highly-modifiable feet.
More at:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-09/21/content_6124873.htm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1027_041027_homo_floresiensis.html
(wink, wink)
Here is a chart comparing features of Leopard vs Vista...
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/27/leopard-vs-vista-feature-chart-showdown/
You dumb ass jack ass who has poor language skills mods me a troll? My comment is in line with others who welcome Leopard running on PC hardware. My comment is obviously a "Wow!", as in cool. Phooey on you...
"You can only eat steak so many times..."
Are we talking FRESH steak, or regurgitated steak?
of business puut and end to thaat name?
Ass Cat
Maybe they are just patent trolling.
I wonder if this will get some people into trouble when they try to get cute and build logs on government operations.
Damn. I cannot find the site, but there is one that essentially is titled "IP Addresses to NEVER Ping..." if you want to avoid trouble with the law. It contained thousands of addresses, hundreds of class group names, and these are held by universities, BBN, ATT, NSA, CIA, DEA, DIS, NIS, and all sorts of other alphabet soup letters.
with a Manual Guide... I wonder when this application will "cock up" (in English parlance) and screw over people not part of the serve.. sir vail-ance ... umm surveillance.
I thought many of these ISP and ISP parent companies had stated officially that they had issues with excessive data retention (storage space, processing of the enormous data sets, legal issues, etc...). Now, this, from one company that is probably going to make some enemies.
What good (other than government surveillance and corporate marketing) can come from this without harming privacy?
"Isn't this just solving a problem which doesn't really exist?"
No, it isn't. Consider this: This technology could be applied to buses (is in some ways, if one considers non-gasoline/non-diesel buses) and free the pole-powered buses of delays causes when the bus ahead (or, the trolley car on tracks using a different power line but is somehow obstructing the bus' run) breaks down or, (in the case of SF MUNI) when some passenger threatens or harasses the driver, who then says (after a few warnings-- especially when a jackass boards without intent to pay, and haggles the driver) "This bus is going out of service; another bus is about 7 minutes behind me...), deboards everyone, then SITS there with the poles STILL UP on the grid. I saw something like this, one day, when the driver ahead of us had an attitude and wouldn't drop his poles, pissing off the driver of MY bus, and the two almost got into a pissing match.
Rails are a problem for rail cars, especially those raggedy-assed cars from around the world that SF MUNI runs. Some of them make weird-assed noises that got some of us imitating them, laughing, and then getting tired of it. Even the tourists got in on it. I think it was the Milan car, earlier this year. Other cars are irritating, too. The brakes and padding and friction noise are sometimes unnerving. Pumps or fly-wheels or compressors on them (underneath the carriage) are annoying, yet these raggedy assed cars are in service.
Taking power lines OUT of service might become a union issue if jobs become threatened. Doesn't matter how MANY, just that JOBS are threatened. Some people will be forced to retrain, or be retired or transferred, probably at the same (assume a $20+/hour) pay even if the job is less paid normally.
But, not having rail cars or buses dependent upon overhead lines or in-ground rails would be nice. It would be nice if the MUNI rail cars could be decoupled from the overhead. Then, eventually, the rails could be obsoleted. At that point, the severe commute-hours backups that the N-Judah and other lines have when one end of the underground stations get(s) (say, at Embarcadero, where it's busy as hell) backed up can be a thing of the past. The driver can just reroute and at least keep the carriage in motion since some of the tubes/tunnels could still be used if not blocked. Ahh, but again, jobs... under... threat..
So, their Aerosmiths are turning on the Airsupplies to ms-digital-crack?
Well, tell them, "YOU SERVER THE PUBLIC! Step down, co-exist, or take a bullet. But the public has been FUCKED enough."
The only reason such a split doesn't work is because of human greed and arrogance. Parties pushing agendas, issuing spin, and deceiving the public is how they work, and they won't take the job unless they can screw us over as much as they can get away with.
It's not supposed to be US working for them, but THEM working for US, and they don't understand that. Not with all that corrupt corporate/SIG income they get.
"MS's horrible marketing has really failed on Vista"
But, somehow ms' marketing must've worked mostly elsewhere? I am thinking henchman/strongarm tactics, the de facto ubiquity of windows on (almost) all new hardware systems sold, and the fear of or the too much laziness to change or try non-ms systems for things NOT needing to be done in windows.
For all the money ms spends on marketing (and "marketing dollars") and advertising, it's amazing they seem (by some accounts) to have failed to impress people.
(Too bad, though, that COMPIZ and Beryl didn't get onto basic machines (with supporting graphics cards) in stores as a side-by-side comparison to vista's desktop. But, then people would demand things like Mac's Garage Band's non-existing Linux equivalents, DX10, intense FPS, etc.)
Just half-bake thinking I'm doing here.
They are UNcupped and UNsane. It is not unpossible, you know...
In the case of the current sitting occupant of the oval office, he'd be fitted with an ear but, and there'd be a time delay, as is invisible prompt would cue him the answers.
(An aside: In any case, the Obama and Clinton should run together, irrespective of to WHOM the P/VP seat goes. They should just say, "we'll trade seats half-way into the term, and if we win re-election we'll alternate, again."
Hell, for that matter (since the goddamn corrupt parties ONLY want D/R alternations, the P/VP should be one D, one R in the SAME office election, then rotate half-way thru the term. This way, the assholes would (theoretically) be COMPELLED to "get work done". They couldn't bicker as much in the SAME office since blame would fall at BOTH their feet.)
To:
"Now MS will have to compete against a working, installed OS that is on the laptops, based on their own merit. Since Linux can be free, including Windows will increase the price, and might not be as usable."
and to your comments, I hope that courts will QUICKLY rule this as "dumping" by microsoft. I fear, though, that the courts might be swayed into thinking that "microsoft is just protecting its COMMERCIAL turf. Since Linux generally is not SOLD commercially parallel to ms and other computer products, then Linux is the product that is being dumped onto the market, fragmenting it and confusing users."
That would be scary. Sadly, ms just can't accept competition nicely. If their invasion of OLPC hardware gains momentum, it'll be worse in magnitude than Linux and other OS's gaining ground on generic PC hardware.
Not walls-building, but balls-wielding.
They ARE, though, probably trying to make it difficult for others to operate a mixed environment, probably on an assumption or finding that LOTS of admins use GUI features, or don't use SSH effectively.
They're probably grousing and anticipated unfavorable EU court outcome. So, maybe they're just wielding their balls.
(Anybody got a poker, or faulty shorting probe?)
ripping off potential site names, I DO grouse (privately, usually) that a topic I submit is instead posted by someone else. I am pretty sure I submitted it to slash, but someone else gets credit. I suppose Slash only wants stories by non-controversial or non-looney types.
My submission/post, at 12:36 on Thursday:
"
TrollTech's GreenPhone discontinued...
[ Edit | Delete | 0 Comments | #185749 ]
Thursday October 25, @12:36PM
User Journal
Nothing emotional or rhetorical in this story submission. But, I did not see this coming. However, according to the article:
"Despite the announcement of the discontinuation of its flagship mobile phone development platform, the company also announced that the mobile phone would be superceded by a number of new devices, including that of portable media devices and additional mobile phones, although the new models are to be distributed by third-parties."
More at:
http://linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=613&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
"
It's doubtful that Microsoft could encourage or coerce Negroponte to put XP on the machine, so whose arms will they twist?"
Governments'. Corrupt governments' arms. Ones that crave money, fame, and other gratification from relationships with large (generally corrupt) companies.
Something the "first guy" (xin loi toi, toi ten my den...), hehehe forgot is:
Laches is an appropriate and convenient name. IF a company KNOWS it is being infringed upon, and delays inappropriately, and then tries to sue in court, it should suffer LASHES, as in LASHING!
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm just so passionate about Lotus SmartSuite, and I am jaded and bitter that OO.o and even ms office have some 20-30 things that S/S ought to have, without any dramatic changes in the interface, though. I guess I need to relax. In any case, it seems that VirtualBox will ease my dependency upon Win4Lin, and I will be able to in solitude use SmartSuite (particularly Approach, Word Pro, and 1-2-3.)
(yes, for that stalker of mine who likes modding me offtopic, I know you'll be looking for me...)
Anyway...
"It's available with 1st party software. It's kind of lame, but it does the job."
So, I checked out the page, and it was like "Ahh, I remember that, back like hundreds of years ago..."
So... I am
ROTMFFLMGDAO... from having read:
"Virtual Desktop Manager
Manage up to four desktops from the Windows taskbar with this PowerToy."
LOL!
I have *8* to *10*, and have had more, and KDE allows around 16 IIRC. I have my virtual desktops change images every few minutes or so (longer, much longer if I don't want huge images chewing my sys resources), each desk top with its OWN set of images, all pointing to some 30+ for each desktop.
Moreover, my machine is an 800 MHz Gateway Select, from 1999, with 256 MB RAM, 64 MB video card, and all this going on in PCLinuxOS with Win4Lin running Win98 in the b/g so I can use Lotus SmartSuite while doing my other things, like using the Rhythmbox and watching DVDs.
aSSHOLE. The topic to which I responded is about or digressed into people who have or don't have undying love for msoft and Linux. What I am talking about is the guttural, visceral pain people go through BECAUSE of not getting what they want. Fanboys for Linux and fanboys for microsoft/name your company can come from the SAME cloth as the person whose "undying love" for Linux is being talked about.
Some people on this site have to little depth of mind.
And, there are those like myself who, once we found Linux, pretty much had NO reason to use microsoft products. I USE windows98 only to load Lotus SmartSuite, and to play around with various windows-environment applications that I hardly ever notice. Without Lotus SmartSuite, I'd pretty much have NO reson to use ANY microsoft product.
SO, I despise, utterly LOATHE and would wipe out with my magic wand, if I had one, microsoft's existence. Not because I LOVE Linux (I do, in that it gives me a way to escape much of msoft) but because more than ANY other company, I deSPISE how they operate. Not that others don't engage in some of the same practices ms does, but that they aren't IN MY FACE with lies. Hard drives, games, obscure hardware... I can evade. But, come to work, go to the library, book an appointment, whatever, I always have that lying, megalomanical, corporation-killing, Linux-attacking, FUD-mix-master machine (not ALL its employees, but the key ones) around.
I don't HATE ms because gates et al are filthy rich, I hate ms because they STOLE more of the computing world than anyone or any other company, are too damn powerful to wrest it back from them, and too many suckers are "born a minute" and don't venture outside.
By the SAME token, I despise those in Linuxland who keep designing applications for an audience they THINK will join Linux, but who keep designing CRAPWARE (by interface and operation) that mystifies, befuddles, and infuriates users TRYING to make an earnest effort to give Linux more than a few frustrating hours.
I PUT UP with Linux in my first few months. I had the time, the will, and the anti-ms rhetoric driving me. I also create 'applications', mainly obscure database interfaces via Lotus Approach. I have to use Approach because there are NO widgets or full-fledge apps that let me do 90% of what Lotus Approach (the award-winning, end-user, no-programming-required) relational database front end does, and NO word processors that work like Lotus Word Pro does for me.
On the SAME token, I'm close to despising IBM (never mind all the contributions to open source), but they arrogantly act as if their users are supposed to be CORPORATIONS, not individuals. A LOT of people and open source projects could benefit from WHATEVER (not just token bits, and ragged-ware like Symphony) IBM/Lotus CAN release to open source.
They WON'T work better with Sun (so far as I can see) to come out with exciting stun-ware for end users. I cannot accept that EVERYthing in SmartSuite is so deeply externally owned that IBM cannot even decompile the thing and say, "Here, Open Source Community, we've removed the non-IBM, non-Lotus stuff. If you can restore the functionality for ingrates like David Syes, you're a better set of people (albeit on a different mission) than we.
No. Won't happen. Symphony could have waited 6 more months, and should have looked like SMARTSUITE, not that ragged crippleware we saw. I tried it and almost had a thrombosis, anurism, and and cataleptic fit all at once. A major waste of resources, given that they've owned SmartSuite since, what, 1997, and Lotus possessed Symphony since maybe 1992. Repeatedly, hearteningly, a lot of us beg, cried, and drooled for IBM to come to our END-USER aid, and we idealistically or stupidly failed to realize that IBM CARES ABOUT COMPANIES, NOT INDIVIDUALS, not entrepreneurs, not fringe.
I've burned too much time on this rant.
Are those chapters, verses, acts, scenes, beats, timeline/slipstream coordinates...?
Where's my Oracle, Elosha?
*I* know how the Earth is only 6,000 (pseudo) years old. Lazarus (with the scar) time-traveled in that scaled-down one-seat Jupiter II (or, was it a prototype of the Federation Time Ship Aeon and Lazarus REALLy was Braxton?). He happened to have a bible that Kirk kept as a memory of Edith Keeler when he and Spock held (each other?) up in that "flop" (flop-house?) when they needed to find some bones.
Now, THAT would REALLY be an "old" "testament" of sorts.
Only problem, the quantum slipstreams keep getting slipped up. They must've crossed with the tubs that senator (a slightly GM/corn-fed modified copy of Lazarus) polluted OUR timeline with the term "tubes" when he meant to say "subspace beacons".