I also feel it still stinks. And I agree that it's a venue tailor made for abuse. I couldn't personally co-operate with a program like this, but didn't feel I could/should make that decision for anybody else. It's hard not to think about a program like this..and the fact that taxpayers are paying for it..and not be discouraged.
..but there is no evidence that kids are in the kind of danger that warrant this kind of paranoia and loss of freedom and dignity. The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice confirms what the FBI and Justice Department have been reporting for years -- violence among kids is way down. This is called the Saudi Arabian theory of justice. There, they cut people's hands off for stealing. In democracies, we prefer different remedies. You could also make kids absolutely safe by jailing everybody somebody thought could conceivably be dangerous. The question is, do you want that kind of a trade off.
This is the heart of it, chromatic..Lots of pols and other people invoking child welfare while exploding the issue of child safety..a political stunt for years. Thanks for this..I will read this one aloud to the CEO.
This is a good caution..This may be a publicity stunt, and I'll be especially sensitive to that. I'm sure the bad publicity is why they're doing this, but I'm hopeful they mean it when they say they want to talk. We'll see.
...is possible. Lots of musicians e-mailed that they would be thrilled to bypass record companies if music fans would pay something for their music. The question is would they. And truthfully, my ideas aren't mine anymore. They aren't stolen, bu they are distributed for free all over the place, which is okay by me.
..it makes my hair grow back. I agree with this post. Publishers can play around with e-writing i various forms, which is a good idea, but if publishers begin go put all their money and energy into forms other than the book itself -- then they will repeat the newspaper disaster. Lots of mediocre websites, weaker and more marginalized newspapers. And for the record, it's a shame you have to fear getting glamed for expressing your opinion. That's the small but ugly little Communistic element at/. at work.
...for generating all this publicity. But even though he may be a good author for geeks and others, I don't see how this step will improve publishing, any more than all those websites improved newspapers. Be open to different ideas, though. King's deserved popularity shouldn't be a smokescreen for what is essentially a suicidal move for publishers, IMHO
I guess I don't think that much of e-books in general. Every medium doesn't replicate perfectly online..I read the King Novella, which isn't, remember a book at all. I think just because something is available electronically, doesn't automatically make it better. It's the content of the book that ultimately counts, not simply the format.
Plse folks, read the columns. I say in everyone that corporations are not evil per se, and neither, of course, is government. Corporatism..the kind driving the music and record industry, the global, greedy billion dollar lawyer kind..isn't the same thing as capitalism or corporations. It's bigger, more global and mass-marketed. It is a much more real menace to free speech and a free Net that government or corporations. But of course allcorporations aren't evil and neither is all government. Modern capitalism has created the greatest propserity in world history..which I've said a zillion times.
AC, I'm suggesting that every generation has the right to determine its own culture, and this one is building a culture different from mine, and from the people in Washington writing unworkable and noxious laws. Kids have grown up in a world where culture is often free and accessible..it's not their fault, it's their reality. Now we're saying they're thieves and they can't do it anymore. It's just not going to work, is my point. They are not "willfully" acting in an immoral way, they are simply acting in a way that mirrors the environment and technology that shaped their lives. To criminalize them is just nuts. They aren't theives. We need to think about our definitions of things in a way that protects artists and also recognizes what has become a right for kids, not a privilege to be bestowed by elders.
P.S. This is a good post to look at it when you think about personalizing of issues. Ilike emotional reaction and melodrama, and if there's a problem with this column, it's probably that there's too much content (there is plenty, I am quite confident). Marklee, don't you have one thing to say on this very large issue that doesn't have to do with me personally? If not, why post at all? Either skip it or go back to your other other media. Lots of people obviously want to talk about this. This post is too vague too bother me, but it's a useful place to keep arguing for people to talk on the issues here, rather than try and personalize all disagreements. Just a point.
Very much appreciate this post from somebody who wants to talk about the issues raised here..My argument is that people who grow up (for years now) having access to free music really don't see it as stealing..And in a way, it isn't, as they've been permitted to do it for so long and in such great depth. If people ultimately decide that it is stealing, then that will require a massive reworking of technology and of education...Because we've institutionalized "thievery" to such a degree that it's almost impossible to get people to see it that way now. Many of you know more about the technology involved than I do, but I don't see or hear of any systems that can put the genie back in the bottle. Don't we have to accept that. In any case, I thought this was a very smart and useful post.
I think this is a great post, and went right to the heart of it...a lot of people (including Thomas Jefferson) thought, like absurd, that such a thing can't be owned. Looks increasingly like they were right.
I agree, but last weekend, the music industry posted record $15 billion profits. Also, we have to remember this is much bigger than music..It's hard for me to believe, much as I would like to that the legal, medical, music and movie professions and industries will all throw in the towel. Also, I question the word "pirates." I don't think the people downloading this stuff are theives, not in the context of their own lives.
I think I spent just the right time at Wired, frankly, and what has broadband got to do with this? Millions of people (tens of millions) shop on the Net and get news without broadband. As to the mountain, can't wait.
I'm traveling and just browsed the posts below. Strange..I know this isn't a flame, but this isn't deep or complex. The point is pretty clear and being much discussed around media offices, ad agencies and in mags like American demographics..All old media isn't vanishing as rapidly as people thought just a few years ago, and old and new media are linking up synergistically, and creating different kinds of media outlets. It's not a complicated point, it is new, and I'm by no means the lst person to notice it or write about. It's also interesting many of the comments below are attacking me for making this point, and than making it along with me. Strange. There is a mindlessness to these flames that many people comment on and ask me about. Flames don't bug me much (I'm not running for mayor), but I'm not sure I know how to answer.
Yes. Let's stipulate that I'm loathesome and move on to some subject less boring than me, which would be almost anything. There just ain't anything more to be said. There's got to be more worthwhile stuff to do..I second this motion and remember, you can just go to your prefs and skip the experience of reading me at all with just a click or two.
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I also feel it still stinks. And I agree that it's a venue tailor made for abuse. I couldn't personally co-operate with a program like this, but didn't feel I could/should make that decision for anybody else. It's hard not to think about a program like this..and the fact that taxpayers are paying for it..and not be discouraged.
..but there is no evidence that kids are in the kind of danger that warrant this kind of paranoia and loss of freedom and dignity. The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice confirms what the FBI and Justice Department have been reporting for years -- violence among kids is way down. This is called the Saudi Arabian theory of justice. There, they cut people's hands off for stealing. In democracies, we prefer different remedies. You could also make kids absolutely safe by jailing everybody somebody thought could conceivably be dangerous. The question is, do you want that kind of a trade off.
This is the heart of it, chromatic..Lots of pols and other people invoking child welfare while exploding the issue of child safety..a political stunt for years. Thanks for this..I will read this one aloud to the CEO.
This is a good caution..This may be a publicity stunt, and I'll be especially sensitive to that. I'm sure the bad publicity is why they're doing this, but I'm hopeful they mean it when they say they want to talk. We'll see.
I think this is a great idea and I believe in four or five years, this is almost precisely what they will be doing.
I thinkt is importnat..but how would competitors prove this prior art and disprove the validity of patents?
...is possible. Lots of musicians e-mailed that they would be thrilled to bypass record companies if music fans would pay something for their music. The question is would they. And truthfully, my ideas aren't mine anymore. They aren't stolen, bu they are distributed for free all over the place, which is okay by me.
..it makes my hair grow back. I agree with this post. Publishers can play around with e-writing i various forms, which is a good idea, but if publishers begin go put all their money and energy into forms other than the book itself -- then they will repeat the newspaper disaster. Lots of mediocre websites, weaker and more marginalized newspapers. And for the record, it's a shame you have to fear getting glamed for expressing your opinion. That's the small but ugly little Communistic element at
...for generating all this publicity. But even though he may be a good author for geeks and others, I don't see how this step will improve publishing, any more than all those websites improved newspapers. Be open to different ideas, though. King's deserved popularity shouldn't be a smokescreen for what is essentially a suicidal move for publishers, IMHO
I guess I don't think that much of e-books in general. Every medium doesn't replicate perfectly online..I read the King Novella, which isn't, remember a book at all. I think just because something is available electronically, doesn't automatically make it better. It's the content of the book that ultimately counts, not simply the format.
He's great and I love his books. Maybe you ought to try reading the column, for a refreshing experience in fact-based opinion.
This is called Slashdot. Of course, Stephen King must continue writing. And you are, clearly, an idiot.
Plse folks, read the columns. I say in everyone that corporations are not evil per se, and neither, of course, is government. Corporatism..the kind driving the music and record industry, the global, greedy billion dollar lawyer kind..isn't the same thing as capitalism or corporations. It's bigger, more global and mass-marketed. It is a much more real menace to free speech and a free Net that government or corporations.
But of course allcorporations aren't evil and neither is all government. Modern capitalism has created the greatest propserity in world history..which I've said a zillion times.
AC, I'm suggesting that every generation has the right to determine its own culture, and this one is building a culture different from mine, and from the people in Washington writing unworkable and noxious laws. Kids have grown up in a world where culture is often free and accessible..it's not their fault, it's their reality. Now we're saying they're thieves and they can't do it anymore. It's just not going to work, is my point. They are not "willfully" acting in an immoral way, they are simply acting in a way that mirrors the environment and technology that shaped their lives. To criminalize them is just nuts. They aren't theives. We need to think about our definitions of things in a way that protects artists and also recognizes what has become a right for kids, not a privilege to be bestowed by elders.
You don't sound like a thief to me. But would you be willing to pay compensation in small amounts or different ways?
P.S. This is a good post to look at it when you think about personalizing of issues. Ilike emotional reaction and melodrama, and if there's a problem with this column, it's probably that there's too much content (there is plenty, I am quite confident). Marklee, don't you have one thing to say on this very large issue that doesn't have to do with me personally? If not, why post at all? Either skip it or go back to your other other media.
Lots of people obviously want to talk about this. This post is too vague too bother me, but it's a useful place to keep arguing for people to talk on the issues here, rather than try and personalize all disagreements. Just a point.
Very much appreciate this post from somebody who wants to talk about the issues raised here..My argument is that people who grow up (for years now) having access to free music really don't see it as stealing..And in a way, it isn't, as they've been permitted to do it for so long and in such great depth. If people ultimately decide that it is stealing, then that will require a massive reworking of technology and of education...Because we've institutionalized "thievery" to such a degree that it's almost impossible to get people to see it that way now. Many of you know more about the technology involved than I do, but I don't see or hear of any systems that can put the genie back in the bottle. Don't we have to accept that. In any case, I thought this was a very smart and useful post.
I think this is a great post, and went right to the heart of it...a lot of people (including Thomas Jefferson) thought, like absurd, that such a thing can't be owned. Looks increasingly like they were right.
...i've ever been accused to trying too hard (not sure what what means) but you are always, of course, free to turn back to "mainstream" news.
I agree, but last weekend, the music industry posted record $15 billion profits. Also, we have to remember this is much bigger than music..It's hard for me to believe, much as I would like to that the legal, medical, music and movie professions and industries will all throw in the towel.
Also, I question the word "pirates." I don't think the people downloading this stuff are theives, not in the context of their own lives.
Incomplete, but not bad..
I think I spent just the right time at Wired, frankly, and what has broadband got to do with this? Millions of people (tens of millions) shop on the Net and get news without broadband. As to the mountain, can't wait.
I'm traveling and just browsed the posts below. Strange..I know this isn't a flame, but this isn't deep or complex. The point is pretty clear and being much discussed around media offices, ad agencies and in mags like American demographics..All old media isn't vanishing as rapidly as people thought just a few years ago, and old and new media are linking up synergistically, and creating different kinds of media outlets. It's not a complicated point, it is new, and I'm by no means the lst person to notice it or write about. It's also interesting many of the comments below are attacking me for making this point, and than making it along with me. Strange. There is a mindlessness to these flames that many people comment on and ask me about. Flames don't bug me much (I'm not running for mayor), but I'm not sure I know how to answer.
The stats on papers and younger readers are horrifying -- there aren't any.
Yes. Let's stipulate that I'm loathesome and move on to some subject less boring than me, which would be almost anything. There just ain't anything more to be said. There's got to be more worthwhile stuff to do..I second this motion and remember, you can just go to your prefs and skip the experience of reading me at all with just a click or two.