Why do you repeat my name three times? And actually I'd like to attract less attention..But the answer is, I do use MS cause I have to for my other writing, and although we get most of the quotes, some get thru..just a fact of life..Sorry, but probably won't change for awhile. I can live with it.
I think it makes some sense when you're singling out Churchill, who saved the world, or Gorbachev, who ended the Cold War..Maybe even Gates in some context..but I agree, it's a weird notion as applied to e-commerce
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..and I mock religion wherever and whenever possible. It needs it.
Getting lots of interesting e-mail, thanks. As usual, many of these posts suggest I'm too ignorant to engage in a discussion like this. But this is the problem. This discussion shouldn't be in closed circle..geneticists, biologists, clergyman and rabbis..It should include nitwits like me. When you start talking about creating life, or altering life -- sometimes obviously worthwhile things to do, as in eradicating disease -- everybody should be invited to the table for a huge discussion. I reject the patronizing suggestion that only trained ph'd's are smart enuf to to get into this discussion. That's the problem with science, if you even glance at its history. Scientists make great things that often have horrific consequences..just look at much of the 20th Century (the Net and the booming economy isn't the only story). I refuse to back off of conversations like this because ill-tempered elitists say nobody but them is really qualified to participate.
Hate to stun you, but everyone in America didn't see "Triumph Of The Nerds," and judging from e-mail, tons of/. readers don't know bout Eckert and Mauchly. Course we could just personalize the site for you.
Thanks for all the great e-mail about this column. SOme of you have e-mailed defending the WB for acting responsibly. I don't think this analogy goes far. Star Wars has more violence involving kids than this finale..should it be yanked from theaters?Should Walker? Jag? Matrix? To postpone or cancel a program like this is to buy into the demonstrably false notion that this is what is causing kids to harm each other. I don't believe that and I don't think the WB does either. I don't applaud theft or impatience..this is something else..The decision was quite hypocritical. And if you follow the reasoning, it means every single tv show or movie or CD has to be screened before release..
This issue is too important for the silly horseshit that has made/'s public boards a web-wide joke. As usual, I'm living in a parallel universe -- got tons of very intelligent, interesting, thoughful, e-mail about this column which, as usual, is being linked all over the place. And as usual, the by now familiar amazement, apologies and jokes about the stupid and hostile postings (as opposed to those who just simply disagree). Normally I really don't care about the tostosterone posts. They're just a particular viral strain here. But this issue is too important. People are in jail, and may be going to jail because it's so easy for law enforcment, journalists and others to demonize the notion of the evil hacker (not even using the term properly). Law enforcement agencies like the FBI are cranking up new units to politce the Web. And so there's a lot at stake in talking about this intelligently. This has nothing to do with me or the way I write. I'm not the issue. The issue is whether or not police agencies are justified in expanding their policing efforts on the Web and tossing in jail people who are not dangerous or a menace to the stake. This is a big issue. Don't trivialize with this infantile posts. Even as/. grows in attention and respect around the Web, the message boards have become a joke. If you feel the need, go flame each other (or me) privately. But this issue needs to be talking about, in fairness to peoplelike Mitnick and others who are in jail, or who are going to get pre-dawn visits from cops who grab their computers. This is a perfect discussion topic for/., and the story above is proof positive that is is a vital and ongoing issue. These conversations shouldn't be dominated by angry teenagers. It's really importat that this stuff get aired and kicked around. So this is simply one more wish for the message boards to have a coherent conversation about an obviously important subject -- the kind of conversation I've already been having all morning with hackers, crackers and others who are involved. And the kind of conversation that should be public.
From Eric Raymond Crackers: The act of breaking into a computer system; what a cracker does. also: a malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. hacker: also tends to connote member in the global community defined bythe net. hacker: a person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities.. 2. one who programs enthusiastically even obsessively or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
I repeat..hackers don't behave maliciously, cept for good political reasons.
...in case you forget,/. isn't only read by the converted..columns are passed around to lots of people, including journalists..They are not converted.if you know it, then just skip it..
I think it's dumb to get into intra-media scraps, but I found the Voice piece to be disappointing, and surprisingly distorted. I never compared these e-mails to the Holocaust, and made a point of not making that comparison. I said they had the feel of very painful testimony. I think his self-consciouly contrarian idea that white, middle-class males can't be in pain, or don't deserve sympathy if they are is too silly too warrant a lot of discussion. He also overlooked the fact -- which I made a big point of -- that an enormous percentage of the e-mailers were women, and, I thought, middle-class. He was writing to a preconceived point of view, and not very honestly.
Rob, while I respect the integrity of the question, I have to add, as one writer who has never made a nickel off of any book he's written -- that would be six -- I would have no trouble keeping Thomas Merton's picture off of a Pepsi can. God Help me if I didn't. I don't fault Lucas for making some money (I'd like to), but it's a question of proportion.
I kinda like Katz the Inflamer..But take it easy there, Ripp. We don't want an online seizure. If you compare the $between then and now, that was truly peanuts..Calm yourself,tho.
I got to hand it to you, rhuff, comparing excerpting RTTM with George Lucas marketing for Phantom Menace has left me speechless. Well, how bout one difference: I didn't get paid? Beyond that, you've truly left me slack-jawed.
Jeez, sexbots is the only one that's worth happening..this is depressing. But I doubt I'll be around to say I told you so...eBay is rocking the boat, though.
If people or government stopped giving out domain names, would the Net ever fill up? Get jammed the way Ultima is? I'm wondering if there's any reality to the idea that net property itself could someday become valuable..
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I think this is an important question. We don't really know anything about these kids parents, but from what I've read about most of the others, there weren't any obvious reasons in the family life why this would happen. Maybe there is a violent gene of some sort?
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You are quite right. I didn't have the guts,and I do believe they are good, as a newcomer to Quake, and a happy newcomer, and somebody who has a lot of friends who game, I do think they are good. And unconsciously, I was afraid to say it, I guess. Good call.
P.S. I've been writing about Microsoft (and sexbots, for that matter) for nearly 10 years. Why would you describe that as an "experiment.?"
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For most of my life, I've been a complete advocate of gun bans. But writing online has put me in touch with a lot of thoughtful, smart and very persuasive gun owners who have challenged me to think a bit more deeply about the issue. I can't imagine any reason for anybody to own machine guns, or for them to be legal, yet it is true that there isn't much of a correlation between the number of guns in a community and the amount of crime. In urban areas in particular, where there are lot of guns lying around, police have drastically reduced crime by means other than gun control. I still have trouble with the idea of a nation as heavily armed as this ones, but I have a lot of gun-owning online friends, and I have to say, they have made me think harder about this issue.
There were lots of smart user comments yesterday, but I'd have to say the column speaks for itself. From the response here and via e-mail, people sure seem to want to talk about it.
Chris, I have no idea what this post means. My writing hasn't changed a bit from Hotwired to here, and the only experimenting I've done is learning Linux, an ongoing but satistfying drama. I just take one subject after another and toss it out for discussion. I suspect the difference is that you're just busier...your choice. But I haven't altered my style or approach at all, alas. Couldn't if I wanted to. Anyway, thanks and take care.
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Why do you repeat my name three times? And actually I'd like to attract less attention..But the answer is, I do use MS cause I have to for my other writing, and although we get most of the quotes, some get thru..just a fact of life..Sorry, but probably won't change for awhile. I can live with it.
I thought she invented the Internet?
You sure have my vote
I think it makes some sense when you're singling out Churchill, who saved the world, or Gorbachev, who ended the Cold War..Maybe even Gates in some context..but I agree, it's a weird notion as applied to e-commerce
..and I mock religion wherever and whenever possible. It needs it.
This is total BS. I said no such thing.
Getting lots of interesting e-mail, thanks. As usual, many of these posts suggest I'm too ignorant to engage in a discussion like this. But this is the problem. This discussion shouldn't be in closed circle..geneticists, biologists, clergyman and rabbis..It should include nitwits like me. When you start talking about creating life, or altering life -- sometimes obviously worthwhile things to do, as in eradicating disease -- everybody should be invited to the table for a huge discussion. I reject the patronizing suggestion that only trained ph'd's are smart enuf to to get into this discussion. That's the problem with science, if you even glance at its history. Scientists make great things that often have horrific consequences..just look at much of the 20th Century (the Net and the booming economy isn't the only story). I refuse to back off of conversations like this because ill-tempered elitists say nobody but them is really qualified to participate.
Hate to stun you, but everyone in America didn't see "Triumph Of The Nerds," and judging from e-mail, tons of /. readers don't know bout Eckert and Mauchly. Course we could just personalize the site for you.
Thanks for all the great e-mail about this column. SOme of you have e-mailed defending the WB for acting responsibly. I don't think this analogy goes far. Star Wars has more violence involving kids than this finale..should it be yanked from theaters?Should Walker? Jag? Matrix? To postpone or cancel a program like this is to buy into the demonstrably false notion that this is what is causing kids to harm each other. I don't believe that and I don't think the WB does either.
I don't applaud theft or impatience..this is something else..The decision was quite hypocritical. And if you follow the reasoning, it means every single tv show or movie or CD has to be screened before release..
This issue is too important for the silly horseshit that has made
As usual, I'm living in a parallel universe -- got tons of very intelligent, interesting, thoughful, e-mail about this column which, as usual, is being linked all over the place.
And as usual, the by now familiar amazement, apologies and jokes about the stupid and hostile postings (as opposed to those who just simply disagree). Normally I really don't care about the tostosterone posts. They're just a particular viral strain here.
But this issue is too important. People are in jail, and may be going to jail because it's so easy for law enforcment, journalists and others to demonize the notion of the evil hacker (not even using the term properly). Law enforcement agencies like the FBI are cranking up new units to politce the Web. And so there's a lot at stake in talking about this intelligently.
This has nothing to do with me or the way I write. I'm not the issue. The issue is whether or not police agencies are justified in expanding their policing efforts on the Web and tossing in jail people who are not dangerous or a menace to the stake. This is a big issue.
Don't trivialize with this infantile posts. Even as
So this is simply one more wish for the message boards to have a coherent conversation about an obviously important subject -- the kind of conversation I've already been having all morning with hackers, crackers and others who are involved. And the kind of conversation that should be public.
From Eric Raymond
Crackers: The act of breaking into a computer system; what a cracker does. also: a malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around.
hacker: also tends to connote member in the global community defined bythe net.
hacker: a person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities..
2. one who programs enthusiastically even obsessively or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
I repeat..hackers don't behave maliciously, cept for good political reasons.
No crackers steal...hackers don't..That's sort of the point OGL
...in case you forget,
I think it's dumb to get into intra-media scraps, but I found the Voice piece to be disappointing, and surprisingly distorted. I never compared these e-mails to the Holocaust, and made a point of not making that comparison. I said they had the feel of very painful testimony. I think his self-consciouly contrarian idea that white, middle-class males can't be in pain, or don't deserve sympathy if they are is too silly too warrant a lot of discussion.
He also overlooked the fact -- which I made a big point of -- that an enormous percentage of the e-mailers were women, and, I thought, middle-class. He was writing to a preconceived point of view, and not very honestly.
Rob, while I respect the integrity of the question, I have to add, as one writer who has never made a nickel off of any book he's written -- that would be six -- I would have no trouble keeping Thomas Merton's picture off of a Pepsi can. God Help me if I didn't.
I don't fault Lucas for making some money (I'd like to), but it's a question of proportion.
I kinda like Katz the Inflamer..But take it easy there, Ripp. We don't want an online seizure. If you compare the $between then and now, that was truly peanuts..Calm yourself,tho.
I got to hand it to you, rhuff, comparing excerpting RTTM with George Lucas marketing for Phantom Menace has left me speechless. Well, how bout one difference: I didn't get paid? Beyond that, you've truly left me slack-jawed.
Jeez, sexbots is the only one that's worth happening..this is depressing. But I doubt I'll be around to say I told you so...eBay is rocking the boat, though.
If people or government stopped giving out domain names, would the Net ever fill up? Get jammed the way Ultima is? I'm wondering if there's any reality to the idea that net property itself could someday become valuable..
I think this is an important question. We don't really know anything about these kids parents, but from what I've read about most of the others, there weren't any obvious reasons in the family life why this would happen. Maybe there is a violent gene of some sort?
You are quite right. I didn't have the guts,and I do believe they are good, as a newcomer to Quake, and a happy newcomer, and somebody who has a lot of friends who game, I do think they are good. And unconsciously, I was afraid to say it, I guess. Good call.
P.S. I've been writing about Microsoft (and sexbots, for that matter) for nearly 10 years. Why would you describe that as an "experiment.?"
For most of my life, I've been a complete advocate of gun bans. But writing online has put me in touch with a lot of thoughtful, smart and very persuasive gun owners who have challenged me to think a bit more deeply about the issue. I can't imagine any reason for anybody to own machine guns, or for them to be legal, yet it is true that there isn't much of a correlation between the number of guns in a community and the amount of crime. In urban areas in particular, where there are lot of guns lying around, police have drastically reduced crime by means other than gun control.
I still have trouble with the idea of a nation as heavily armed as this ones, but I have a lot of gun-owning online friends, and I have to say, they have made me think harder about this issue.
There were lots of smart user comments yesterday, but I'd have to say the column speaks for itself. From the response here and via e-mail, people sure seem to want to talk about it.
Chris, I have no idea what this post means. My writing hasn't changed a bit from Hotwired to here, and the only experimenting I've done is learning Linux, an ongoing but satistfying drama.
I just take one subject after another and toss it out for discussion. I suspect the difference is that you're just busier...your choice. But I haven't altered my style or approach at all, alas. Couldn't if I wanted to. Anyway, thanks and take care.