Do you think the US will allow other countries to build nuclear plants? I mean we seem to be throwing fits about iran, what if malasia wanted to build a nuclear plant? What if Turkey or syria did? What if the palestenians wanted a nuclear plant too?
There is a very real possiblity they are setting up to sue MS. If they get cleared of the SCO case and if they can prove that MS used SCO to impede IBM then they can get huge bucks both from Sun and MS. MS would definately rather settle then go to court.
Imagine the cockroaches that are going to crawl out when those documents hit the court. Presuming of course that those documents haven't been lost, shredded or otherwise just become unavailable.
I wouldn't be surprised if IBM sued MS after the sco trial is over just to get their money back from the lawsuit. You know MS is going to settle, they tend to pay up pretty quickly when slapped with lawsuits.
So you are saying that decision makers are incapable of making a decision about which version of linux to use?
How did they come to be decision makers if lack the ability to evaluate 8 flavors of linux and choose one of them? An average person can choose between eight car manufacturers, eight cars from the same manufacturer, eight different detergents but a corporate decision maker is unable to choose from eight different distributions.
Having said that there are only a few popular distros to choose from and they are targeted. Novell/Redhat/Ubuntu for business. Gentoo, debian for the geeks.
Maybe that's his target market. Maybe he doesn't want to fund 30 something guy with a mortgage. Let's face it with a wife and mortgage you are not likely work 60 hours a week and take big risks. You are bound to be more conservative in your business then a 20 something single guy.
It's not the 20K. Most startups need knowhow more then money. These guys know how to deal with lawyers, accountants, how to schmooze the customers, play the vendors, and reasearch the market.
Maybe you could raise 20K and maybe you could not but you can bet your ass any bright tech startup geek doesn't know jack shit about market research or how to propertly keep his accounts straight. It takes more then l33t skillz to run a company and that's what the venture capital firms bring to the table.
I for one would love to have somebody with that much experience and knowledge be on my team no matter what I was doing.
I am forced to use sharpoint at work. It sucks balls. I have no idea why anybody would choose it above plone or a dozen other open source CMS systems.
Besides being slower then molasses the search functionality is pretty close to useless. Unless you know where something is give up all hope of ever finding it.
Why does a corporation need or want our respect? Isn't it enough for MS to be a monopoly? Isn't it enough for Bill Gates to wipe his ass with 100 dollar bills? Why does he care about my respect?
Having said that the answer is no. I am too reliant on adblock, flashblock, live bookmarks, IMDB search, wikipedia search and a dozen other reasons to ever give up firefox. They will have to pry it away from my cold dead fingers.
Lets face it IE is designed to deliver advertising to windows users, and to encourage web developers to use non standard markup (coming soon XAML!) the fact that it can also peruse the web is a happy coinky dink. Firefox OTOH is designed to make my online life more pleasant.
Although technically there is nothing python can do that php can't I am afraid PHP usage will continue to decline till they fix their namespace problems and make an effort to standardise their function calls.
"Sure but, how many of the *real* applications (OpenOffice, mySQL, Eclipse, etc) would fail misserably if the corporations that are throwing money at them to develop them will fail when they stopped?"
"Now I wonder what impact Jim Starkey joining MySQL will have on FB development?"
He says he will be available to answer questions but there is no doubt it's going to have a huge impact. Lucky for firebird project vulcan is pretty much done and the merging of the 3.0 and vulcan codebases has begun.
Firebird 3 is going to be a hell of a database server.
"This strikes me as a hopelessly naive point of view. Northern Irish militant republicans had full voting rights, and full British citizenship, but that alone didn't prevent them from resorting to violence."
True but then again they didn't suffer through two decades of crushing occupation either. I figure the palestenians would welcome a change.
Either way the situation was settled when sein fein became a political party and england sat down and negotiated with the "terrorists". That's how problems are solved, you sit down and negotiate in good faith. Alas good faith has never existed in the occupation of palestine.
"so what makes you think that Palestinian terrorist organisations will be content with pursuing their goals democratically?"
You make it sound like israel wants a solution to the problem that is just and fair and the only thing that stands in the way of progress is palestine. Not true.
The problem here is that god is telling these people contradictory things and they are listening. God told the jews that this plot of land belongs to them and they will never voluntarity give it to the muslims. They don't have the will to just kill them, they can't give back the land, they can't purge them via other methods so they have settled on making their lives as miserable as possible hoping they all leave voluntarily. It's not working, it's not going to work. Their best bet is to assimilate.
"Is it so simple that you just don't see it? Muslim countries have state-instituted propaganda machines in place(e.g. How many Muslim countries can claim that they have free press?)"
Mmm. Lets see.
Turkey for sure, also quatar, malasia, java, I am not sure about pakistan but probably has relatively free press, probably bosnia too, oh and don't forget singapore. Apparently being a muslim country doesn't have anything to do with free press.
"This propaganda to keep control of their citizens and domestic attention away from their governments. Seems to be currently working,"
Yes, it's working very well in the US.
"Rumsfeld is fighting fire with fire, when perhaps a better foreign policy would help instead."
Once again why ask for another propaganda outlet when you already have fox news and the rest of the murdoch empire?
Well I lost a ton of karma for trying to see the muslim point of view but what the hell let's keep this going.
The only reason israel does not use suicide bombers to kill palestenians is because they have helicopter, drones, missiles and tanks. Those devices have been very effective in killing palestenian women and children.
I am all for arming the palestenians so that they don't have to resort to suicide bombing soft targets. If they had a real army they would target the military in a more fair fight.
Hamas has won the election because fatah was not able to throw off the occupation and deliver freedom to the palestenians. They had nothing to lose so why not give hamas a shot and see if they could do something.
They are desparate people and really at this point have nothing to lose. I read someplace that the average palestenians makes something like 25 cents a day or something. No money, no freedom, no life, no hope.
Now that hamas has won the west will pull away all aid and palestine will be another north korea with massive starvation and staggering poverty.
"There were huge anti-war demonstrations world-wide."
Before the war. Once it started everybody went back to their holes. All those protesters didn't even have the balls to boycott american goods so they were not really serious anyway.
"Absolutly not. You're making the assumption that I want to see muslims suffer. "
Your words made it sound like you didn't mind at all. You are completely indifferent to their suffering.
"To be honest I felt that the displacement of Saddam was going to be viewed in a good light byt the Iraqis. Honestly, how many Iraqis wanted to be under Saddam?"
Surely there was a more sane way to remove saddam. Besides saddam has been removed for a long time now and yet the occupation is still going on and so is the murder and mayhem.
"I don't understand why the Muslim community winks at the efforts of the militant islamic movements that seem to be helping Americans justify their efforts."
For the exact same reason that you and the rest of the world winks at the israeli occupation. In other words the muslim world cares about you exactly as much as you care about the suffering and death of palestenians. Not much.
"Are you a Muslim? What do you think needs to be done in order to set things straight?"
Easy.
1) Admit that Israel has won territory in a war. 2) Redraw Israeli borders to include all of the west bank and gaza. 3) Force israel to give full citizenship to all occupants of israel regardless of their religion or nationality (all civilized nations have done this with the people it has conquered).
This gets rid of the palestine problem once and for all. Once palestenians have voting rights they can then fully participate in the israeli democratic process and will not resort to violence. Being full israeli citizens they will also have rights to benefits like all other israeli citizens and their standard of living will increase.
If the above is not possible then pull the israeli borders back to where they were before the war and give the land back to the palestenians. Move the wall back to 1964 border, prevent all arabs from entering israel and all israelis from entering palestine for at least a decade. Station Turkish troops alongside the border for peacekeeping. Turkey is an ally of israel but a muslim country they troops would be respected by both sides. As a reward fastrack the joining of turkey to EU (which they want).
Either one of the above is possible if the US threatens to pull all aid from both countries and enforces a worldwide trade sanctions and a blockade.
At the same time pull out of Iraq, give full control of the iraqi oil wells back to iraq, let them join OPEC again.
Pull all troops out of the middle east, stop meddling with their countries.
So there you go, solutions that will work if anybody in the US has the guts to implement them.
"Once again, I'm not a christian. Until you accept that it's going to be hard for us to come to any terms."
Ok, so why pick on the muslims? Why are you outraged when they burn a handful of buildings but not outraged when entire cities are destroyed by bombs?
"Not to say that the innocent should suffer but I didn't see the Islamic community doing anything to stop Saddam's genocide."
What an odd statement to make. The innocent did and do suffer. Where is your outrage? you seem to be making excuses for the suffering of innocents by saying that the islamic community didn't do anything to stop saddams genocide. Well for your information the US didn't do anything to stop his genocide either. In fact we were funding him at the time.
"Well, I guess if I'm going to be accused of firebombing I guess I really can accuse the entire Muslim community of 9/11. What's the old saying? What's good for the goose is good for the gander?"
I have no idea what you are trying to say here. I read it three times and it still doesn't make sense. Perhaps you could rephrase it.
It seems like you are saying that you reall have no problems with killing any and all muslims because of 9/11. If so your attitude is not that different then most americans. You all freak out about the burning of a couple of buildings but tens of thousands of dead iraqis don't even register in your conscience because some saudis killed 3000 americans. They all look alike to you after all right?
You missed the point didn't you? Where was your outrage and the outrage of the christian world when entire cities were being destroyed by the US forces? Where were the forces of moderate christians when the mass graves were being dug outside of fallujia to bury all the dead women and children?
Why are you outraged by protests and burning of a half a dozen buildings but completely silent when tens of thousands of muslims die when you firebomb cities?
One day you and your wife get into a massive argument because you forgot to pick up the milk from the grocery store on your way to work. You are thinking to yourself "why is she so angry, it's just milk and I will go now to get it". What you don't realise is that the argument is not about the milk, it's about the fact that you never listen to her. You think the argument is about one thing, your wife thinks it's about something else.
These cartoons were the spark but the groundwork has been laid down for decades. Sure it's just another minor spitting at muslims and arabas by a western power and maybe they are thinking, "what the fuck, all we did is spit on them, why do have to burn our house down" but the fight has been brewing for a long time.
Oh and one more thing.......
I know lots of people in the west are upset that a few building have been burnt and a few people have died (the vast majority of the people who died were protesters shot by cops by the way). To those people I will say take a moment to think about all the buildings that were destroyed in palestine, afghanistan and iraq and all the thousands of completely innocent people who have died in those countries as well. Maybe their suffering, death and destruction of their property deserves just a tiny little bit of outrage from you too.
Remember that muslims are human too. When you kill them or destroy their town with bombs they hurt too.
Slashdot Mirror
Do you think the US will allow other countries to build nuclear plants? I mean we seem to be throwing fits about iran, what if malasia wanted to build a nuclear plant? What if Turkey or syria did? What if the palestenians wanted a nuclear plant too?
LOL. I wonder how many people got this joke.
There is a very real possiblity they are setting up to sue MS. If they get cleared of the SCO case and if they can prove that MS used SCO to impede IBM then they can get huge bucks both from Sun and MS. MS would definately rather settle then go to court.
Well MS isn't going to sue, they will find lackeys like SCO to do the suing for them while find ways to shovel money at them.
It looks like they picked on the wrong guy with IBM though, the groklaw headline reads IBM Subpoenas Microsoft! Sun! Baystar and HP!.
Imagine the cockroaches that are going to crawl out when those documents hit the court. Presuming of course that those documents haven't been lost, shredded or otherwise just become unavailable.
I wouldn't be surprised if IBM sued MS after the sco trial is over just to get their money back from the lawsuit. You know MS is going to settle, they tend to pay up pretty quickly when slapped with lawsuits.
So you are saying that decision makers are incapable of making a decision about which version of linux to use?
How did they come to be decision makers if lack the ability to evaluate 8 flavors of linux and choose one of them? An average person can choose between eight car manufacturers, eight cars from the same manufacturer, eight different detergents but a corporate decision maker is unable to choose from eight different distributions.
Having said that there are only a few popular distros to choose from and they are targeted. Novell/Redhat/Ubuntu for business. Gentoo, debian for the geeks.
If you are not impressed with their experience then you should to agree to be funded by them.
What? You say they never asked to fund you startup? Well then great!. Now you don't have to deal with them at all.
Maybe that's his target market. Maybe he doesn't want to fund 30 something guy with a mortgage. Let's face it with a wife and mortgage you are not likely work 60 hours a week and take big risks. You are bound to be more conservative in your business then a 20 something single guy.
It's not the 20K. Most startups need knowhow more then money. These guys know how to deal with lawyers, accountants, how to schmooze the customers, play the vendors, and reasearch the market.
Maybe you could raise 20K and maybe you could not but you can bet your ass any bright tech startup geek doesn't know jack shit about market research or how to propertly keep his accounts straight. It takes more then l33t skillz to run a company and that's what the venture capital firms bring to the table.
I for one would love to have somebody with that much experience and knowledge be on my team no matter what I was doing.
I am forced to use sharpoint at work. It sucks balls. I have no idea why anybody would choose it above plone or a dozen other open source CMS systems.
Besides being slower then molasses the search functionality is pretty close to useless. Unless you know where something is give up all hope of ever finding it.
Why does a corporation need or want our respect? Isn't it enough for MS to be a monopoly? Isn't it enough for Bill Gates to wipe his ass with 100 dollar bills? Why does he care about my respect?
Having said that the answer is no. I am too reliant on adblock, flashblock, live bookmarks, IMDB search, wikipedia search and a dozen other reasons to ever give up firefox. They will have to pry it away from my cold dead fingers.
Lets face it IE is designed to deliver advertising to windows users, and to encourage web developers to use non standard markup (coming soon XAML!) the fact that it can also peruse the web is a happy coinky dink. Firefox OTOH is designed to make my online life more pleasant.
Different aims, different product.
Although technically there is nothing python can do that php can't I am afraid PHP usage will continue to decline till they fix their namespace problems and make an effort to standardise their function calls.
Aaah zope.
Never before in the history of IT has so much innovation and potential gone unrealized.
Maybe Zope3 will fix it. God I certainly hope so.
"Sure but, how many of the *real* applications (OpenOffice, mySQL, Eclipse, etc) would fail misserably if the corporations that are throwing money at them to develop them will fail when they stopped?"
Two words and a symbol for you.
interbase -> firebird.
Any more questions?
"Now I wonder what impact Jim Starkey joining MySQL will have on FB development?"
He says he will be available to answer questions but there is no doubt it's going to have a huge impact. Lucky for firebird project vulcan is pretty much done and the merging of the 3.0 and vulcan codebases has begun.
Firebird 3 is going to be a hell of a database server.
You can do this now. If you have a windows based mobile phone you can use skype. You don't have to wait for MS to sell you something.
All you need is a wifi spot.
"This strikes me as a hopelessly naive point of view. Northern Irish militant republicans had full voting rights, and full British citizenship, but that alone didn't prevent them from resorting to violence."
True but then again they didn't suffer through two decades of crushing occupation either. I figure the palestenians would welcome a change.
Either way the situation was settled when sein fein became a political party and england sat down and negotiated with the "terrorists". That's how problems are solved, you sit down and negotiate in good faith. Alas good faith has never existed in the occupation of palestine.
"so what makes you think that Palestinian terrorist organisations will be content with pursuing their goals democratically?"
You make it sound like israel wants a solution to the problem that is just and fair and the only thing that stands in the way of progress is palestine. Not true.
The problem here is that god is telling these people contradictory things and they are listening. God told the jews that this plot of land belongs to them and they will never voluntarity give it to the muslims. They don't have the will to just kill them, they can't give back the land, they can't purge them via other methods so they have settled on making their lives as miserable as possible hoping they all leave voluntarily. It's not working, it's not going to work. Their best bet is to assimilate.
"Is it so simple that you just don't see it? Muslim countries have state-instituted propaganda machines in place(e.g. How many Muslim countries can claim that they have free press?)"
Mmm. Lets see.
Turkey for sure, also quatar, malasia, java, I am not sure about pakistan but probably has relatively free press, probably bosnia too, oh and don't forget singapore. Apparently being a muslim country doesn't have anything to do with free press.
"This propaganda to keep control of their citizens and domestic attention away from their governments. Seems to be currently working,"
Yes, it's working very well in the US.
"Rumsfeld is fighting fire with fire, when perhaps a better foreign policy would help instead."
Once again why ask for another propaganda outlet when you already have fox news and the rest of the murdoch empire?
Well I lost a ton of karma for trying to see the muslim point of view but what the hell let's keep this going.
The only reason israel does not use suicide bombers to kill palestenians is because they have helicopter, drones, missiles and tanks. Those devices have been very effective in killing palestenian women and children.
I am all for arming the palestenians so that they don't have to resort to suicide bombing soft targets. If they had a real army they would target the military in a more fair fight.
Hamas has won the election because fatah was not able to throw off the occupation and deliver freedom to the palestenians. They had nothing to lose so why not give hamas a shot and see if they could do something.
They are desparate people and really at this point have nothing to lose. I read someplace that the average palestenians makes something like 25 cents a day or something. No money, no freedom, no life, no hope.
Now that hamas has won the west will pull away all aid and palestine will be another north korea with massive starvation and staggering poverty.
Too bad, so sad.
"There were huge anti-war demonstrations world-wide."
Before the war. Once it started everybody went back to their holes. All those protesters didn't even have the balls to boycott american goods so they were not really serious anyway.
"Absolutly not. You're making the assumption that I want to see muslims suffer. "
Your words made it sound like you didn't mind at all. You are completely indifferent to their suffering.
"To be honest I felt that the displacement of Saddam was going to be viewed in a good light byt the Iraqis. Honestly, how many Iraqis wanted to be under Saddam?"
Surely there was a more sane way to remove saddam. Besides saddam has been removed for a long time now and yet the occupation is still going on and so is the murder and mayhem.
"I don't understand why the Muslim community winks at the efforts of the militant islamic movements that seem to be helping Americans justify their efforts."
For the exact same reason that you and the rest of the world winks at the israeli occupation. In other words the muslim world cares about you exactly as much as you care about the suffering and death of palestenians. Not much.
"Are you a Muslim? What do you think needs to be done in order to set things straight?"
Easy.
1) Admit that Israel has won territory in a war.
2) Redraw Israeli borders to include all of the west bank and gaza.
3) Force israel to give full citizenship to all occupants of israel regardless of their religion or nationality (all civilized nations have done this with the people it has conquered).
This gets rid of the palestine problem once and for all. Once palestenians have voting rights they can then fully participate in the israeli democratic process and will not resort to violence. Being full israeli citizens they will also have rights to benefits like all other israeli citizens and their standard of living will increase.
If the above is not possible then pull the israeli borders back to where they were before the war and give the land back to the palestenians. Move the wall back to 1964 border, prevent all arabs from entering israel and all israelis from entering palestine for at least a decade. Station Turkish troops alongside the border for peacekeeping. Turkey is an ally of israel but a muslim country they troops would be respected by both sides. As a reward fastrack the joining of turkey to EU (which they want).
Either one of the above is possible if the US threatens to pull all aid from both countries and enforces a worldwide trade sanctions and a blockade.
At the same time pull out of Iraq, give full control of the iraqi oil wells back to iraq, let them join OPEC again.
Pull all troops out of the middle east, stop meddling with their countries.
So there you go, solutions that will work if anybody in the US has the guts to implement them.
"Once again, I'm not a christian. Until you accept that it's going to be hard for us to come to any terms."
Ok, so why pick on the muslims? Why are you outraged when they burn a handful of buildings but not outraged when entire cities are destroyed by bombs?
"Not to say that the innocent should suffer but I didn't see the Islamic community doing anything to stop Saddam's genocide."
What an odd statement to make. The innocent did and do suffer. Where is your outrage? you seem to be making excuses for the suffering of innocents by saying that the islamic community didn't do anything to stop saddams genocide. Well for your information the US didn't do anything to stop his genocide either. In fact we were funding him at the time.
"Well, I guess if I'm going to be accused of firebombing I guess I really can accuse the entire Muslim community of 9/11. What's the old saying? What's good for the goose is good for the gander?"
I have no idea what you are trying to say here. I read it three times and it still doesn't make sense. Perhaps you could rephrase it.
It seems like you are saying that you reall have no problems with killing any and all muslims because of 9/11. If so your attitude is not that different then most americans. You all freak out about the burning of a couple of buildings but tens of thousands of dead iraqis don't even register in your conscience because some saudis killed 3000 americans. They all look alike to you after all right?
You missed the point didn't you? Where was your outrage and the outrage of the christian world when entire cities were being destroyed by the US forces? Where were the forces of moderate christians when the mass graves were being dug outside of fallujia to bury all the dead women and children?
Why are you outraged by protests and burning of a half a dozen buildings but completely silent when tens of thousands of muslims die when you firebomb cities?
It's not funny, it's true. Why is rumsfeld asking for a propaganda machine when they already have fox? I don't get it.
It's like this.
One day you and your wife get into a massive argument because you forgot to pick up the milk from the grocery store on your way to work. You are thinking to yourself "why is she so angry, it's just milk and I will go now to get it". What you don't realise is that the argument is not about the milk, it's about the fact that you never listen to her. You think the argument is about one thing, your wife thinks it's about something else.
These cartoons were the spark but the groundwork has been laid down for decades. Sure it's just another minor spitting at muslims and arabas by a western power and maybe they are thinking, "what the fuck, all we did is spit on them, why do have to burn our house down" but the fight has been brewing for a long time.
Oh and one more thing.......
I know lots of people in the west are upset that a few building have been burnt and a few people have died (the vast majority of the people who died were protesters shot by cops by the way). To those people I will say take a moment to think about all the buildings that were destroyed in palestine, afghanistan and iraq and all the thousands of completely innocent people who have died in those countries as well. Maybe their suffering, death and destruction of their property deserves just a tiny little bit of outrage from you too.
Remember that muslims are human too. When you kill them or destroy their town with bombs they hurt too.