Has anybody done any research on the which parties business magazines support. Common sense tells me they would all be rabidly republican like the wall st journal.
Your comments brings an interesting way for the republicans to attack businesses that they don't like. Not only google but maybe businesses that give money to democrats, businesses that give benefits to gays, businesses run by muslims etc.
Unfortunately the rest of the english speaking countries seem to be following our lead. Both england and australia have acted even worse towards civil liberties. There is still New Zealand but it's hard to get in there. What's left? Belize? That might be nice and tropical but probably not much money there.
Wow, amazing. Simply amazing. Posts like yours remind me why I am an atheist and why I don't want any part of any organization of people who think like you.
"What happened is that _fewer_ people lived in poverty, because enhanced efficiency led to more wealth in general (the dynamic mechanism is complicated, but one way to look at it is, the poor don't get poorer overnight and instead "buy in" to the system)."
I think you are conveniently overlooking the massive amount of income redistribution that goes on in all "first world" capitalist democracies. Look at the third world countries without income redistribution and you will find a few people who own everything and the wretched masses living in squalor. Modern democracies have embraced socialism as a way to keep the middle class fat and happy so they don't revolt.
"I as not talking about and it was not the purpose of the founding fathers to protect citizens against a foreign army, but to prevent the government from arresting people secretly in the middle of the night, which was happening in their time and throughout history."
The point was that guns are not able to prevent the israelis from doing anything they want with the palestenians and they are not going to prevent you from standing up to the US army either.
"The Palestinian leaders encourage, or at least tolerate groups whose goal is to eliminate the state of Israel, just about the only democratically freely elected regime in that whole region. Every time the enemies of Israel have attacked her, they got their a***s kicked and then they bitch about it."
The palestenians are under occupation. I have thought about this a lot and I think that if I ever lived under an occupation by a foreign army, especially one that had a different language and religion I too would fight to gain my independence back. You know, give me liberty or give me death thing.
"I happen to believe the ancient biblical prophecies made to Abraham and many others after him. That tiny nation will remain and prosper, regardless of what the rest of inhabitants of this planet say or do. Psalm 2 says so. Read it sometime."
I don't believe in god but I have noticed how people who do tend to kill, maim, torture and subjugate people in his name all though history.
"Lets see a nation orders of magnitude larger than the occupied territory is devoting a significant portion of their military forces to holding a small territory and even then suffers from enormous internal and external political pressure due to the regular uprisings, bombings, and other incidents. They maintain this only through ruthless, constant military action that has earned them a horrible reputation around the world and put them on every civil rights group's emergency list. Even people in the US boycott grocery stores that contribute to Israeli causes. I'd say that is a testament to how hard it is to maintain an armed occupation among an armed people."
Hard maybe but not impossible. Let's face it if it was that hard they would not have kept it up for decades.
Price of materials measures the rate of extraction, not the availability of the total supply. Think of it this way.
If god told GW to cut all the trees tomorrow the price of wood would drop to zero but that doesn't mean the supply of trees is increasing worldwide.
Economists don't measure the sustainibility or the global supply, they only measure the rate of extraction and processing. Yet another reason why economics is a junk science.
For a modern and an an excellent refutation of your argument see palestine where millions of people are being occupied by a foreign army. Despite the fact thay they are will armed with machine guns, rocket launchers etc they have not been able to shake off their occupiers for more then 20 years.
I think palestine is a facinating study on just how ineffectual guns are against a well organized, well funded modern army with accurate intelligence.
"And why do people assume that Microsoft is the only company that might ever consider taking out patents in such an area?"
Microsoft is assumed to be a company which might use it's patents to kill open source projects. They have repeatedly said that they fully intend to defend their intellectual property. See the FAT patent for a recent example.
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Parrot is multi dispach and supports multiple inheritance. It also does not have a patent sword hanging over it like mono does.
If GPL wasn't effective MS would not be trying so hard to kill it. They would not be funding the SCO lawsuit, they would not be spending millions of dollars with PR agencies and law firms.
Don't kid yourself. MS is scared shitless of the GPL. If they weren't they'd be acting differently.
As for the BSD I guess you said it best. The corporations cherry pick the best programs and adopt them to sell them.
"No, we don't make all of our source code for everything (the UI) available.
Big deal; that doesn't make us Darth Vader."
Err, I never said you were darth vader. I simply said you appreaciate very much the free coding the BSD programmers do for you. It allows you to profit nicely from their labors.
One supposes they don't mind. After all if they didn't want to volunteer code to apple then they would have coded using the GPL. Then again if they did that then you would have to open up your UI. Thank for the BSD programmers, you get to use their code while keeping your UI proprietary.
So? Why the fear of karma? I mean all you have to do is to post a "linux is great but it's not ready for desktop" or "xp hasn't crashed on me evar!" posts and get them all back.
Microsoft and apple thank you very much for your efforts. Please keep it up and for God's sake stay away from the GPL. It's too complicated and requires them to give back.
The military doesn't have to count. THey could simply let the medical staff that pulls the bodies and the reporters who are there report what they see.
Not even funny but it's almost true. Although you can report on the amount of US casualties the US military does not know what the casualties on the other side are and neither does the press, so they never get reported.
"It is true. Look up the accident reports. And the computers that run a nuclear power plant aren't programmed by the script kiddies that write your average desktop piece of crap, They are engineered and programmed by professionals. I guarantee you that no one that works for Microsoft has ever programmed the software for the safety critical sections of a nuclear reactor."
Once again you are going to try to convince the average joe that it can't happen again. Even though it happened twice it can't happen again because this time computers will run the whole thing.
I just don't think you can convince the masses of that.
"I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were writing from North Korea. Say hello to your evil overlord for me."
No, I am writing from capitalist U S of A. In my country if corporations can make more money by killing a few people then it's all OK.
"Conservation is great but only goes so far. You still need a base of reliable power to support industry and manufacturing. Or we can all turn tribal and live as one with mother nature like the native Americans."
Right, that's the idea. In order to do that we need to have a lot less babies though. It's perfectly possible to live within our means if we simply control our population. If the US had 30 million people instead of 300 million people the country could give us everything we need in plenty. We could reduce our population simply by attrition and stopping immigration since our birth rate is pretty low already.
THe terrorists wants to do two things. 1) cause economic damage. 2) scare people.
Hitting a nuclear plant would do both. Even if it could not destroy it it would shut it down for a long time and scare the pants off of the population.
Non lethally hitting a nuclear plant is so powerful of a psychic bomb that a politician might order it in order to win elections.
"EVERY accident has been traced to some moron screwing with the safetys, or doing something they shouldn't. Let the computers do their job and there wont be any accidents."
You know I consider myself a fairly bright, tech savvy, and intelligent guy and I don't believe that. You want to try and convince the average jow whose computer crashes five times a day of that?
"Pollution from coal skills between 4000 and 16000 people per year. Are you saying these people don't care?"
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. The corporations that killed those people didn't spend as dime, in fact they saved money by killing people. Until you find a way to charge the corporations for those deaths it won't matter. They will continue to kill rather then find less lethal ways to make money.
"Now which is more environmentally friendly?"
Use less, take public transportation, turn off your lights, sit in colder rooms, turn down the AC, build cities where walking is possible, have less children etc.
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Has anybody done any research on the which parties business magazines support. Common sense tells me they would all be rabidly republican like the wall st journal.
Your comments brings an interesting way for the republicans to attack businesses that they don't like. Not only google but maybe businesses that give money to democrats, businesses that give benefits to gays, businesses run by muslims etc.
Unfortunately the rest of the english speaking countries seem to be following our lead. Both england and australia have acted even worse towards civil liberties. There is still New Zealand but it's hard to get in there. What's left? Belize? That might be nice and tropical but probably not much money there.
Let's hope you can speak other languages.
"Neither. That's just the only possible reason MS would be afraid of it."
Really? That's the only possible reason MS would be afraid of it. There are no other possible reasons for MS to be afraid of it? Not even one?
Now who is delusional.
Wow, amazing. Simply amazing. Posts like yours remind me why I am an atheist and why I don't want any part of any organization of people who think like you.
We (the US) make all kinds of war robots. Things like cruise missilies and missile launching drones are robots too you know.
"What happened is that _fewer_ people lived in poverty, because enhanced efficiency led to more wealth in general (the dynamic mechanism is complicated, but one way to look at it is, the poor don't get poorer overnight and instead "buy in" to the system)."
I think you are conveniently overlooking the massive amount of income redistribution that goes on in all "first world" capitalist democracies. Look at the third world countries without income redistribution and you will find a few people who own everything and the wretched masses living in squalor. Modern democracies have embraced socialism as a way to keep the middle class fat and happy so they don't revolt.
"I as not talking about and it was not the purpose of the founding fathers to protect citizens against a foreign army, but to prevent the government from arresting people secretly in the middle of the night, which was happening in their time and throughout history."
The point was that guns are not able to prevent the israelis from doing anything they want with the palestenians and they are not going to prevent you from standing up to the US army either.
"The Palestinian leaders encourage, or at least tolerate groups whose goal is to eliminate the state of Israel, just about the only democratically freely elected regime in that whole region. Every time the enemies of Israel have attacked her, they got their a***s kicked and then they bitch about it."
The palestenians are under occupation. I have thought about this a lot and I think that if I ever lived under an occupation by a foreign army, especially one that had a different language and religion I too would fight to gain my independence back. You know, give me liberty or give me death thing.
"I happen to believe the ancient biblical prophecies made to Abraham and many others after him. That tiny nation will remain and prosper, regardless of what the rest of inhabitants of this planet say or do. Psalm 2 says so. Read it sometime."
I don't believe in god but I have noticed how people who do tend to kill, maim, torture and subjugate people in his name all though history.
"Lets see a nation orders of magnitude larger than the occupied territory is devoting a significant portion of their military forces to holding a small territory and even then suffers from enormous internal and external political pressure due to the regular uprisings, bombings, and other incidents. They maintain this only through ruthless, constant military action that has earned them a horrible reputation around the world and put them on every civil rights group's emergency list. Even people in the US boycott grocery stores that contribute to Israeli causes. I'd say that is a testament to how hard it is to maintain an armed occupation among an armed people."
Hard maybe but not impossible. Let's face it if it was that hard they would not have kept it up for decades.
Price of materials measures the rate of extraction, not the availability of the total supply. Think of it this way.
If god told GW to cut all the trees tomorrow the price of wood would drop to zero but that doesn't mean the supply of trees is increasing worldwide.
Economists don't measure the sustainibility or the global supply, they only measure the rate of extraction and processing. Yet another reason why economics is a junk science.
For a modern and an an excellent refutation of your argument see palestine where millions of people are being occupied by a foreign army. Despite the fact thay they are will armed with machine guns, rocket launchers etc they have not been able to shake off their occupiers for more then 20 years.
I think palestine is a facinating study on just how ineffectual guns are against a well organized, well funded modern army with accurate intelligence.
"The idea that the GPL will take over the software world and make all software free and obsolete proprietary software is simply delusional."
It's delusional to think that the GPL is designed to do that. Did you read that someplace or did the voices in your head whisper it to you?
"If you think MS has anything to fear from the GPL, you're kidding yourself."
If they weren't scared they wouldn't be calling people communists and funding SCO.
Right, right. Yea, that makes perfect sense. LOL.
"And why do people assume that Microsoft is the only company that might ever consider taking out patents in such an area?"
Microsoft is assumed to be a company which might use it's patents to kill open source projects. They have repeatedly said that they fully intend to defend their intellectual property. See the FAT patent for a recent example.
Parrot is multi dispach and supports multiple inheritance. It also does not have a patent sword hanging over it like mono does.
If GPL wasn't effective MS would not be trying so hard to kill it. They would not be funding the SCO lawsuit, they would not be spending millions of dollars with PR agencies and law firms.
Don't kid yourself. MS is scared shitless of the GPL. If they weren't they'd be acting differently.
As for the BSD I guess you said it best. The corporations cherry pick the best programs and adopt them to sell them.
"No, we don't make all of our source code for everything (the UI) available.
Big deal; that doesn't make us Darth Vader."
Err, I never said you were darth vader. I simply said you appreaciate very much the free coding the BSD programmers do for you. It allows you to profit nicely from their labors.
One supposes they don't mind. After all if they didn't want to volunteer code to apple then they would have coded using the GPL. Then again if they did that then you would have to open up your UI. Thank for the BSD programmers, you get to use their code while keeping your UI proprietary.
So? Why the fear of karma? I mean all you have to do is to post a "linux is great but it's not ready for desktop" or "xp hasn't crashed on me evar!" posts and get them all back.
Microsoft and apple thank you very much for your efforts. Please keep it up and for God's sake stay away from the GPL. It's too complicated and requires them to give back.
If I recall correctly they are already getting a super deal. Something like 50 dollars for windows and office combined.
It's not "dictating" they are customer and they are choosing to buy other products. They are not forcing the public to use one thing or another.
This is no different then a corporation "dictating" the use of windows on their desktops or "dictating" that everybody use oracle databases.
The military doesn't have to count. THey could simply let the medical staff that pulls the bodies and the reporters who are there report what they see.
Not even funny but it's almost true. Although you can report on the amount of US casualties the US military does not know what the casualties on the other side are and neither does the press, so they never get reported.
"It is true. Look up the accident reports. And the computers that run a nuclear power plant aren't programmed by the script kiddies that write your average desktop piece of crap, They are engineered and programmed by professionals. I guarantee you that no one that works for Microsoft has ever programmed the software for the safety critical sections of a nuclear reactor."
Once again you are going to try to convince the average joe that it can't happen again. Even though it happened twice it can't happen again because this time computers will run the whole thing.
I just don't think you can convince the masses of that.
"I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were writing from North Korea. Say hello to your evil overlord for me."
No, I am writing from capitalist U S of A. In my country if corporations can make more money by killing a few people then it's all OK.
"Conservation is great but only goes so far. You still need a base of reliable power to support industry and manufacturing. Or we can all turn tribal and live as one with mother nature like the native Americans."
Right, that's the idea. In order to do that we need to have a lot less babies though. It's perfectly possible to live within our means if we simply control our population. If the US had 30 million people instead of 300 million people the country could give us everything we need in plenty. We could reduce our population simply by attrition and stopping immigration since our birth rate is pretty low already.
YOu are not thinking like a terrorist.
THe terrorists wants to do two things. 1) cause economic damage. 2) scare people.
Hitting a nuclear plant would do both. Even if it could not destroy it it would shut it down for a long time and scare the pants off of the population.
Non lethally hitting a nuclear plant is so powerful of a psychic bomb that a politician might order it in order to win elections.
"EVERY accident has been traced to some moron screwing with the safetys, or doing something they shouldn't. Let the computers do their job and there wont be any accidents."
You know I consider myself a fairly bright, tech savvy, and intelligent guy and I don't believe that. You want to try and convince the average jow whose computer crashes five times a day of that?
"Pollution from coal skills between 4000 and 16000 people per year. Are you saying these people don't care?"
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. The corporations that killed those people didn't spend as dime, in fact they saved money by killing people. Until you find a way to charge the corporations for those deaths it won't matter. They will continue to kill rather then find less lethal ways to make money.
"Now which is more environmentally friendly?"
Use less, take public transportation, turn off your lights, sit in colder rooms, turn down the AC, build cities where walking is possible, have less children etc.