Like some other have pointed out it doesn't reside in the ID3 tag but in the ressource fork of the file. The file therefore needs to be transfered in a way that doesn't damage the ressource fork (most type of transfer will except for macbinary or binhex), greatly reducing the chances that it infects an osX box.
The fix for this virus will be very simple, all your mp3 files going to a ressource fork filter, the ressource fork being optionnal in osX and being mainly maintained for backward compatibility with os9 it is hardly a problem.
Apple could even include this in the finder or as an internet helper library, every media files downloaded of the net get instantly striped out of their ressource fork, problem solved.
Until then, please, lady and gentlemen, give a warm wlecome to:
GrimRipperCM, the ressource fork deleter! http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/morein fo/macosx/ 16168
PLEASE REMOVE ANY SPACE CONTAINED IN THE LINK
[thin foil hat] Anyway it was about time anti-virus software companies and mac security firm (hint hint) got something to brag about to justify their need, cause as of now, job must have been slow for them... plus Apple now finally has a good reason to definitely get rid of ressource forks... [/thin foil hat]
obviously this isn't the homeland security asking you to wear those devices. I wouldn't even care about privacy since those devices are to be used for people on mission or for research purpose in which case, wearing something to track your statistics is mandatory.
Even if its less invasive than the other tech however, I believe, just by looking at the picture, it hasn't reached a perfect level of freedom, it looks like an iPod-on-a-belly.
I believe freedom will truly be reached when something like this will be spinkled on people to gather their specs:
http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/SmartD us t/
look you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, you went from telling be that different speakers were producing the frequencies needed to make the attack of the sound, to using a canon sound sample as the basis of an spectrum analisys and tell me that since high frequencies were in the sample it was proving that high frequencies produce the attack of the sound, I told you what was happening I gave you a test to do to prove my point. You come back with the Nyquist theorem, which is a theory that concerns analog to digital audio conversion, you look... confused. Look, I've studied in audio and I work in audio since then. I've built studios, all kinds, from school labs and post suites to project studios, I worked in post-prod and I've been doing live sound for the past 3 years. I know my trade, whatever the mod points distribution says.
I'll repeat, the only mistake I made was to believe it was a single cone setup, because I just peeked at the page and drew conclusions, I was wrong, its a multiple cone setup and that changes a lot of thing, actually it might even sound pretty good, now that I RFTA, but what you are telling me is just very confused and doesn't make sense and doesn't even relate.
wrong, use a sine wave of 50Hz with a very fast attack (say 10 ms) and all the frequency contained in the resulting sound will be 50Hz, period, no harmonics nothing but 50Hz, fast fourier or not. A canon sound isn't a bass frequency program allone, several very high frequencies will be emited, some as harmonics, some as fondamentals. The fact that you see those high pitched frequencies has nothing to do with the attack of the sound.
If you want to verify this, it's simple, again, use a sine wave of 50Hz, give it a very fast attack and all you will see will be 50Hz. Of course I hope your speaker can reproduce them, if not use 250Hz if you which, it doesn't mater, if you generate 250Hz as a sine wave (no harmonics) with a very fast attack all you will see is 250Hz.
And btw, some people here are right, I just looked at the page and back when I saw the first picture, I was on the impression it was a single cone setup. I backed here and wrote, I was wrong, its a multiple cone setup, my bad. If it would have been a single cone setup if would have been like I said in my first post, very bad. However, concerning the attack of a sound you are plain wrong, the attack is an amplitude property, not a frequency one.
I'm sorry to contradict you but the attack of a sound has nothing to do with frequency, at all.
Any sound has an amplitude envelloppe which describe the evolution of its amplitude. The attack, wich is the time required for the sound to go from 0dB to its peak level, its hold time, which describe the time it will remain at that peak level, the decay which describe the time it takes to go from its peak level to 0dB. Obviously nothing is that simple and usually a sound has a very complicated envelloppe, a violin sound will decay to another hold time before going to its last decay for example, a complex explosion will have a lot of decays and holds, even several attacks if several burst are heard.
Frequency has nothing to do with the amplitude envelloppe, nothing. The only reason I could see someone making that mistake is because he used a software like Maxxbass which trick the listener in believing there are more bass in the program by adding the artifacts and higher harmonics generaly associated with a complex bass sounds to give the illusion there is more bass and a better attack but that is a psychoacoustical trick not reality, a pure bass sound (sine wave) will still have an attack, a hold and a decay, a good monitoring system will actually make Maxxbass sound bad since the system actually reproduce the bass Maxxbass is trying to simulate. Your brain usually reconstruct the bass signal by himself according to those harmonics and artifacts without you actually hearing them in a cheap system, like a ghetto blaster for example, the brain is a powerfull masking tool.
indeed, the response time of this woofer must be extremely slow negating any good effect it might produce on the frequency range. First you will need a very powerfull amp to drive it so that you actually hear something and even then all sounds will be muffled, bass and bass drums and explosions won't have any attack because even with the appropriate energy the size and weight of the cone will prevent any sudden movement of the cone. In effect the cone will react slower than the sound going in, providing natural compression.
It will just sound like an aural pool of mud. Subwoofer often need a lot more energy to drive than a tweeter, this is why on bi-amplified or tri-amplified system you will read that 250watt goes to the bass, and 70 watts to the tweeter, imagine what's needed to drive this correctly. Not to mention that at this size it nearly impossible for the cone to be even and solid (if part of the cone are moving before the rest it will just sound, well, disgusting).
Impressive to look at, disgusting to hear, funny to read!
I didn't say that Windows do suffer from more or even less problem just that people cover it more, just like you said. The fact that people focus more on Windows security and less on other platform gives the result I've stated. It is getting nearly annoying to hear that another Windows flaw have been discovered and that it indeed will lead people to be disinterested, the rest you can read by yourself.
People get easily emotionnal about computers but please read before calling someone a troll, I never said it was true, I even took the time to specify that the other OS aren't less vunerable just that its rare to hear about their flaws, and I don't go on Linux Security to read every Linux flaw, I read newspapers and general technology website, Slashdot is one of my most sprecialized website and it is still pretty general. The only very specialized website I go to are audio ones, since it's my trade.
Sorry if I offended you but my post was far from being a troll it was an observation, nothing more, nothing less.
just a thing about good cabling, it is indeed very important but only if the rest of the gear involved is of a very good quality, someone telling you you need 100$ cables to power 100$ speakers (I'm not saying that is what you use, its just an example) is, like you said, hearing stuff, however, if you do have a very good monitoring system, pro studio stuff, the cables become the weak link and buying very well balanced an very well shielded cables with a small gauge and matched impedance do make an audible difference. The idea is that the impedance between both cable must be near perfectly matched, like the speakers they are connected to, any difference will be audible. Think of it like a video monitor, if you have the most perfect monitor, of an incredible resolution and color calibrated, but you connect it to your source with a very cheap cable you will see the difference, ghosting, flicker, noise, the same applies to audio, but since people standards in audio are pretty low (you can't blame them considering the price at which a good monitoring system goes) compared to video, most of the time it doesn't make any obvious difference.
sorry for the tone of my previous post but it really angers me when I see someone pointing out expert that aren't when it comes to audio, its my trade and I am very picky when it comes to it.
Its not because has the same opinion than you that it validate yours...
That is such a stupid claim, my car dealer said AAC was better, there!
Why don't you refer to a pro audio site? You know, nothing is worst than a computer site to judge audio, mostly because its the same people thinking that their klipsh pro crap sounds good, no ear no judgement.
I'm an audio pro and I can tell you any compression suck, lossy that is, but as far as they go AAC does sound better than WMA. And I judge that using a very professionnal monitoring system which I sincerly doubt those guys have (its not only the speakers its the whole setup and most importantly the way its been put togheter and oriented).
I really do not get this movement against copyrights. I know the concept suffer from serious abuses and I'm against it as much as most people here however copyrights are a necessity, artist need to be paid for their work and iTMS was providing a very good compromise between fair use and copyrights. I think its a sad day when clueless geeks cannot understand the need to protect ones work from abuse. Like it or not, people not respecting copyrights are discouraging many newcomers to actually try to sell their music and therefore create, their need to make a living does surpass your need for free entertainement. Was 99 that much? Man people can be so cheap sometimes...
I understand the need to crack the DVD encryption scheme so it can be used on Linux, that's fair use, I understand someone wanting to break the WMP DRMs since they do not allow fair use but the fairplay DRM was a pretty permissive one. Man you can even burn it on CD the number of time you wish if you change your playlist every 10 burns, where is the copyright abuse there, plus you can then rip each of those CD if that truly is your pleasure.
I am against abusing consummer but I am also against abusing creators and that is exactly what playfair is providing and that sux...
I don't know about you but I do not find it very surprising when I hear that Windows or a Windows software suffer from a vunerability. It is so common by now that it's like saying unions encourage lazyness, as much as we know about it people don't care they consider it normal because it too much of a fact and nobody truly does something about it. They feel powerless.
Hearing that a similar vunerability has been found on Linux or the Mac would surprise me a lot, not because they are immune to it but more because of the rarity of such an announcement, imagine my surprise when I read a few month ago that a vunerability was found in Open BSD, many were talking about it, but Windows...
Thats actually the evil of it, there are so much holes in that system and its related software that its even getting annoying to hear about it...
And disinterest is the best weapon Microsoft could ever get...
Actually I was providing technical support at that convention, an incredible one it was, 60% computers were Macs (it seems Apple claims about scientific computing moving to Macs is actually true) 6 or 7 were Linux laptops and the rest were the obligatory Windows machines. The subject covered were, well... exotics, if not esoterics but very interesting, I was able to listen to quite a few of them and actually understood what they were talking about 70% of the time (the talks about atom spin control and prediction, I admit, just plain eluded me). This talk indeed happened, I can attest, this wasn't an april fools joke.
Possible but it wasn't posted april 1st, it was posted early march 31, april's fool usually has a one day duration so I would be surprised that its one. That said, I don't know for sure and you don't know for sure, actually if you do, post a link.
In related news, excentric millionaire and communication guru Bob Page aquired Google today. "With Bob Page vision's, Google will reach new heights in consummer services" said a Google representative. In answer to the question of where would the facility be found, Bob Page said it would be "near Groom Lake in Nevada".
obviously if this is the goal they want to achieve, why would they hide it to the world?
What would be the point? This is not a new concept or something no one ever though of, the only true obstacle to such a thing is money, they'll need a lot of it.
I read here (http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/31/23412 49&mode=thread) that xserves G5 were going to power such a thing, 100 000 xserve G5 (Virginia tech made it clear they didn't get any deal so why Google would) can reach between 299 million and 579 million US dollar. Add to that the cooling, the room, the interconnect and all those little niceties that comes with it and it turns out that the project will cost a lot of money, not impossible but still. It will also probably need to come with its own electrical system, a mini-central if you wish, else it will cost them quite a lot per month as far as the electirc bill goes.
I believe the US government is overating the importance of going in a country, especially in the digital age. Videoconference, now accessible to most via IM softwares like iChatAV, MSN Messenger, AIM and the like, combined with high end vizualisation software, 3D computer models and collaboration softwares makes going in a country pretty optionnal to do most business. Outsourcing and offshorings being the perfect examples of this phenomenom. The only security this will bring to the US is that far less people will be inclined to go there, depriving the country of many revenues.
Tourism will suffer from this decision. Business will suffer from this decision. More importantly, US citizen will suffer from this decision. How will the be treated by other countries citizens and customs when travelling there? Like friends?
If you declare people as your enemies or treat them like ones do not be surprised they start acting accordingly, and that surrely won't make the US any safer.
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Like some other have pointed out it doesn't reside in the ID3 tag but in the ressource fork of the file. The file therefore needs to be transfered in a way that doesn't damage the ressource fork (most type of transfer will except for macbinary or binhex), greatly reducing the chances that it infects an osX box.
n fo/macosx/ 16168
The fix for this virus will be very simple, all your mp3 files going to a ressource fork filter, the ressource fork being optionnal in osX and being mainly maintained for backward compatibility with os9 it is hardly a problem.
Apple could even include this in the finder or as an internet helper library, every media files downloaded of the net get instantly striped out of their ressource fork, problem solved.
Until then, please, lady and gentlemen, give a warm wlecome to:
GrimRipperCM, the ressource fork deleter!
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/morei
PLEASE REMOVE ANY SPACE CONTAINED IN THE LINK
[thin foil hat]
Anyway it was about time anti-virus software companies and mac security firm (hint hint) got something to brag about to justify their need, cause as of now, job must have been slow for them... plus Apple now finally has a good reason to definitely get rid of ressource forks...
[/thin foil hat]
the usual space has been inserted between the last "s" and "t/"
sorry for the inconvenience
obviously this isn't the homeland security asking you to wear those devices. I wouldn't even care about privacy since those devices are to be used for people on mission or for research purpose in which case, wearing something to track your statistics is mandatory.
D us t/
Even if its less invasive than the other tech however, I believe, just by looking at the picture, it hasn't reached a perfect level of freedom, it looks like an iPod-on-a-belly.
I believe freedom will truly be reached when something like this will be spinkled on people to gather their specs:
http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/Smart
look you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, you went from telling be that different speakers were producing the frequencies needed to make the attack of the sound, to using a canon sound sample as the basis of an spectrum analisys and tell me that since high frequencies were in the sample it was proving that high frequencies produce the attack of the sound, I told you what was happening I gave you a test to do to prove my point. You come back with the Nyquist theorem, which is a theory that concerns analog to digital audio conversion, you look... confused. Look, I've studied in audio and I work in audio since then. I've built studios, all kinds, from school labs and post suites to project studios, I worked in post-prod and I've been doing live sound for the past 3 years. I know my trade, whatever the mod points distribution says.
I'll repeat, the only mistake I made was to believe it was a single cone setup, because I just peeked at the page and drew conclusions, I was wrong, its a multiple cone setup and that changes a lot of thing, actually it might even sound pretty good, now that I RFTA, but what you are telling me is just very confused and doesn't make sense and doesn't even relate.
wrong, use a sine wave of 50Hz with a very fast attack (say 10 ms) and all the frequency contained in the resulting sound will be 50Hz, period, no harmonics nothing but 50Hz, fast fourier or not. A canon sound isn't a bass frequency program allone, several very high frequencies will be emited, some as harmonics, some as fondamentals. The fact that you see those high pitched frequencies has nothing to do with the attack of the sound.
If you want to verify this, it's simple, again, use a sine wave of 50Hz, give it a very fast attack and all you will see will be 50Hz. Of course I hope your speaker can reproduce them, if not use 250Hz if you which, it doesn't mater, if you generate 250Hz as a sine wave (no harmonics) with a very fast attack all you will see is 250Hz.
And btw, some people here are right, I just looked at the page and back when I saw the first picture, I was on the impression it was a single cone setup. I backed here and wrote, I was wrong, its a multiple cone setup, my bad. If it would have been a single cone setup if would have been like I said in my first post, very bad. However, concerning the attack of a sound you are plain wrong, the attack is an amplitude property, not a frequency one.
I'm sorry to contradict you but the attack of a sound has nothing to do with frequency, at all.
Any sound has an amplitude envelloppe which describe the evolution of its amplitude. The attack, wich is the time required for the sound to go from 0dB to its peak level, its hold time, which describe the time it will remain at that peak level, the decay which describe the time it takes to go from its peak level to 0dB. Obviously nothing is that simple and usually a sound has a very complicated envelloppe, a violin sound will decay to another hold time before going to its last decay for example, a complex explosion will have a lot of decays and holds, even several attacks if several burst are heard.
Frequency has nothing to do with the amplitude envelloppe, nothing. The only reason I could see someone making that mistake is because he used a software like Maxxbass which trick the listener in believing there are more bass in the program by adding the artifacts and higher harmonics generaly associated with a complex bass sounds to give the illusion there is more bass and a better attack but that is a psychoacoustical trick not reality, a pure bass sound (sine wave) will still have an attack, a hold and a decay, a good monitoring system will actually make Maxxbass sound bad since the system actually reproduce the bass Maxxbass is trying to simulate. Your brain usually reconstruct the bass signal by himself according to those harmonics and artifacts without you actually hearing them in a cheap system, like a ghetto blaster for example, the brain is a powerfull masking tool.
indeed, the response time of this woofer must be extremely slow negating any good effect it might produce on the frequency range. First you will need a very powerfull amp to drive it so that you actually hear something and even then all sounds will be muffled, bass and bass drums and explosions won't have any attack because even with the appropriate energy the size and weight of the cone will prevent any sudden movement of the cone. In effect the cone will react slower than the sound going in, providing natural compression.
It will just sound like an aural pool of mud. Subwoofer often need a lot more energy to drive than a tweeter, this is why on bi-amplified or tri-amplified system you will read that 250watt goes to the bass, and 70 watts to the tweeter, imagine what's needed to drive this correctly. Not to mention that at this size it nearly impossible for the cone to be even and solid (if part of the cone are moving before the rest it will just sound, well, disgusting).
Impressive to look at, disgusting to hear, funny to read!
I didn't say that Windows do suffer from more or even less problem just that people cover it more, just like you said. The fact that people focus more on Windows security and less on other platform gives the result I've stated. It is getting nearly annoying to hear that another Windows flaw have been discovered and that it indeed will lead people to be disinterested, the rest you can read by yourself.
People get easily emotionnal about computers but please read before calling someone a troll, I never said it was true, I even took the time to specify that the other OS aren't less vunerable just that its rare to hear about their flaws, and I don't go on Linux Security to read every Linux flaw, I read newspapers and general technology website, Slashdot is one of my most sprecialized website and it is still pretty general. The only very specialized website I go to are audio ones, since it's my trade.
Sorry if I offended you but my post was far from being a troll it was an observation, nothing more, nothing less.
just a thing about good cabling, it is indeed very important but only if the rest of the gear involved is of a very good quality, someone telling you you need 100$ cables to power 100$ speakers (I'm not saying that is what you use, its just an example) is, like you said, hearing stuff, however, if you do have a very good monitoring system, pro studio stuff, the cables become the weak link and buying very well balanced an very well shielded cables with a small gauge and matched impedance do make an audible difference. The idea is that the impedance between both cable must be near perfectly matched, like the speakers they are connected to, any difference will be audible. Think of it like a video monitor, if you have the most perfect monitor, of an incredible resolution and color calibrated, but you connect it to your source with a very cheap cable you will see the difference, ghosting, flicker, noise, the same applies to audio, but since people standards in audio are pretty low (you can't blame them considering the price at which a good monitoring system goes) compared to video, most of the time it doesn't make any obvious difference.
sorry for the tone of my previous post but it really angers me when I see someone pointing out expert that aren't when it comes to audio, its my trade and I am very picky when it comes to it.
Its not because has the same opinion than you that it validate yours...
That is such a stupid claim, my car dealer said AAC was better, there!
Why don't you refer to a pro audio site?
You know, nothing is worst than a computer site to judge audio, mostly because its the same people thinking that their klipsh pro crap sounds good, no ear no judgement.
I'm an audio pro and I can tell you any compression suck, lossy that is, but as far as they go AAC does sound better than WMA. And I judge that using a very professionnal monitoring system which I sincerly doubt those guys have (its not only the speakers its the whole setup and most importantly the way its been put togheter and oriented).
I really do not get this movement against copyrights. I know the concept suffer from serious abuses and I'm against it as much as most people here however copyrights are a necessity, artist need to be paid for their work and iTMS was providing a very good compromise between fair use and copyrights. I think its a sad day when clueless geeks cannot understand the need to protect ones work from abuse. Like it or not, people not respecting copyrights are discouraging many newcomers to actually try to sell their music and therefore create, their need to make a living does surpass your need for free entertainement. Was 99 that much? Man people can be so cheap sometimes...
I understand the need to crack the DVD encryption scheme so it can be used on Linux, that's fair use, I understand someone wanting to break the WMP DRMs since they do not allow fair use but the fairplay DRM was a pretty permissive one. Man you can even burn it on CD the number of time you wish if you change your playlist every 10 burns, where is the copyright abuse there, plus you can then rip each of those CD if that truly is your pleasure.
I am against abusing consummer but I am also against abusing creators and that is exactly what playfair is providing and that sux...
I don't know about you but I do not find it very surprising when I hear that Windows or a Windows software suffer from a vunerability. It is so common by now that it's like saying unions encourage lazyness, as much as we know about it people don't care they consider it normal because it too much of a fact and nobody truly does something about it. They feel powerless.
Hearing that a similar vunerability has been found on Linux or the Mac would surprise me a lot, not because they are immune to it but more because of the rarity of such an announcement, imagine my surprise when I read a few month ago that a vunerability was found in Open BSD, many were talking about it, but Windows...
Thats actually the evil of it, there are so much holes in that system and its related software that its even getting annoying to hear about it...
And disinterest is the best weapon Microsoft could ever get...
Actually I was providing technical support at that convention, an incredible one it was, 60% computers were Macs (it seems Apple claims about scientific computing moving to Macs is actually true) 6 or 7 were Linux laptops and the rest were the obligatory Windows machines. The subject covered were, well... exotics, if not esoterics but very interesting, I was able to listen to quite a few of them and actually understood what they were talking about 70% of the time (the talks about atom spin control and prediction, I admit, just plain eluded me). This talk indeed happened, I can attest, this wasn't an april fools joke.
Possible but it wasn't posted april 1st, it was posted early march 31, april's fool usually has a one day duration so I would be surprised that its one. That said, I don't know for sure and you don't know for sure, actually if you do, post a link.
Yeah, I can imagine the marketing bots results after pruning every accounts:
"hey guys, it turns out the next big thing are indeed penis enlargers!"
Spam will suddenly become a privacy protection scheme[!], the more the better, because the more, the less revelant the marketing bots results...
In related news, excentric millionaire and communication guru Bob Page aquired Google today. "With Bob Page vision's, Google will reach new heights in consummer services" said a Google representative. In answer to the question of where would the facility be found, Bob Page said it would be "near Groom Lake in Nevada".
obviously if this is the goal they want to achieve, why would they hide it to the world?
2 49&mode=thread) that xserves G5 were going to power such a thing, 100 000 xserve G5 (Virginia tech made it clear they didn't get any deal so why Google would) can reach between 299 million and 579 million US dollar. Add to that the cooling, the room, the interconnect and all those little niceties that comes with it and it turns out that the project will cost a lot of money, not impossible but still. It will also probably need to come with its own electrical system, a mini-central if you wish, else it will cost them quite a lot per month as far as the electirc bill goes.
What would be the point? This is not a new concept or something no one ever though of, the only true obstacle to such a thing is money, they'll need a lot of it.
I read here (http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/31/2341
to use above link please remove the /. induce space at the end, between the t and the m
Canadians are not on this list because they were the first ones, in 2002 to suffer from this treatment, they just have extended the list:
. ht m
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1031-08
remember?
Even a federal minister had to be mugshoted and fingerprinted because he was too dark for them.
I believe the US government is overating the importance of going in a country, especially in the digital age. Videoconference, now accessible to most via IM softwares like iChatAV, MSN Messenger, AIM and the like, combined with high end vizualisation software, 3D computer models and collaboration softwares makes going in a country pretty optionnal to do most business. Outsourcing and offshorings being the perfect examples of this phenomenom. The only security this will bring to the US is that far less people will be inclined to go there, depriving the country of many revenues.
Tourism will suffer from this decision. Business will suffer from this decision. More importantly, US citizen will suffer from this decision. How will the be treated by other countries citizens and customs when travelling there? Like friends?
If you declare people as your enemies or treat them like ones do not be surprised they start acting accordingly, and that surrely won't make the US any safer.