Sun is technically an enemy of Linux yes. Solaris and Linux compete with each other, but not anywhere near the competition between them and MSWindows. It seems pretty clear to me, unless I'm missing something.
I think its more along the lines of: "Hmm, I just read the headline and I have no clue what it is talking about." That is what happened to me, at least until I realized there were only 11 posts and if I were so inclined to post it would have a better chance of getting read than some posts at some of the other stories today. Hmm... Bah.
They support the "Tune in, turn off" initiative. The shows aren't that bad if you don't think about them. Thats what they want, and thats how they've trained many poor losers. Bah.
Are you serious? The German people still deal in humans? Have you guys been stealing all of America's Marks and using them as currency? I used to have a friend named Mark, then he disappeared! Bad bad naughty Germans. When will they ever learn to leave others alone.
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I wish I knew of such a shop. Its a pain trying to convince some people that MSWindows is not an essential part of a computer.
Unlike MSWindows, you know when you buy MacOS. It comes when you buy a Mac. That is one of the catches of buying a Mac. When you put together or buy a PC, some people try to force Windows on you, but you don't necessarily -->have-- to take it. (I'm not sure about Compaq and the biggies, but you can argue with the Fry's peons to get rid of stuff you dont want in leiu of better stuff). But when you buy a Mac, its generally accepted that it comes with MacOS, being as that is what the Apple machines are all developed for.
If MS (hope to hell they arent) started selling machines, it would be a given that you would get some version MSWindows on the machine. Its like that with Apple. Now if someone started cloning Macs, then you wouldn't necessarily expect MacOS, but they would probably still have it anyway.
But the bottom line is that you knew you were going to buy MacOS when you bought the machine.
-- Peace is for those who don't own an elephant gun.
I lost my respect for ESR as a person who knows what he is talking about somewhere near the "GNU Linux" thing. Before he just seemed slightly odd, now he seems more fanantical in nature.
If you run, say, a BBS, and someone spams it to hell, and you delete the spam, do you not write something so that it would be significantly more dificult for them to spam?
Anyways, if that isn't the government's job, what is? If went completely lax on business regulations, everything would be owned by 2 or 3 MegaCorps.
With some miracle, regulation could be passed that forbids exactly what it is that Microsoft is doing. That way, MS would have to change, and no other company could take its place. I don't mean anti-trust laws; those already exist. I mean more specific to software. And if done right, it can be kept from leaking into the internet.
I'm not quite sure how it would be worded or worked, but I think that it could possible be done, so that it appeases most of the people, but specifically me.:P
Some regulation wouldn't help. If they just broke up Microsoft, then another company could potentially do the same thing in 50 years from now. If they make some -->REASONABLE-- regulations, then something like this wouldn't happen again.
Is it just me or is a laser way too uneconomical? They would be better off making a huge projector out of the sun. Place it in a stationary orbit, synchonrous with the Earth, so that there is always one HUGE pIzaa Hut ad hanging there in the sky. Even better, if the focused light on it, aliens would be able to see a huge Pizza Hut logo on the surface of Earth! Wooooo advertising!
If I were in charge I wouldn't tell people the whole truth. Nuclear accidents have a tendency to be downplayed for many years after the actual accident (as in China Syndrome). This helps both calm the people and provide a better outlook at your skills as governer or whatever.
If there really was a big problem, telling the whole world they were about to die wouldn't be on your agenda. Just let people live in ignorance is soooooooooo much better than the alternative.
If you don't agree, then I heavily suggest you never vote for me if I decide to run for office.
How do they convince intelligent geeks that, after all, the long-term assurance of privacy and personal liberties isn't that important. Is it money? Do they snag them early in college? What? My guess would be that they start be either being really really bad BOFHs or that they think that there is some security needed, and over time they just get deeper and deeper into the whole security thing... losing site of reality.
Privacy in computers can not feasibly exist. The only way you could go about doing something like that is having everyone be trustworthy which is not going to happen.
Other than that, there will be no stop to the privacy invading software that will be made in the future.
I think he'd have trouble installing Win(insert year) too...
A novice computer user should not be trying to install an OS. They should be familiar with it to the point where they are not a novice any more. Get someone else to install the OS, just like a pre-manufactured MS machine.
I think he'd have trouble installing Win(insert year) too...
A novice computer user should not be trying to install an OS. They should be familiar with it to the point where they are not a novice any more. Get someone else to install the OS, just like a pre-manufactured MS machine.
I have only installed Solaris, and all I had to do was click.
But when it came to setting it up, I had to call people over, for I am no expert in such matters. It seems that the only real way to learn is for other people to tell you how to do while you are actually installing and setting it up.
A (one-time?) class on this would be nice... like something at a Comm. College or of that sort, but there don't appear to be any.
Slashdot Mirror
In some perverted manner that actually makes sense.
By reading his post, you read slashdot. You are a complete moron. If anyone needs a clue, it is you.
Sun is technically an enemy of Linux yes. Solaris and Linux compete with each other, but not anywhere near the competition between them and MSWindows. It seems pretty clear to me, unless I'm missing something.
What in the bloody buttfuck does this have to do with ALS?
I think its more along the lines of: "Hmm, I just read the headline and I have no clue what it is talking about." That is what happened to me, at least until I realized there were only 11 posts and if I were so inclined to post it would have a better chance of getting read than some posts at some of the other stories today. Hmm... Bah.
They support the "Tune in, turn off" initiative. The shows aren't that bad if you don't think about them. Thats what they want, and thats how they've trained many poor losers. Bah.
I did.
And I say that your position is now more clear than it was before. Thank you.
And I was not trolling, I was expressing my confusion in a disgruntled manner.
The clue meter is reading zero.
<paraphrase>OSS developers don't have bad credit, they just have bad credit _ratings_!</paraphrase>
Sorry, couldn't help it.
Are you serious? The German people still deal in humans? Have you guys been stealing all of America's Marks and using them as currency? I used to have a friend named Mark, then he disappeared! Bad bad naughty Germans. When will they ever learn to leave others alone.
</idoicism>
I wish I knew of such a shop. Its a pain trying to convince some people that MSWindows is not an essential part of a computer.
Grr.
Unlike MSWindows, you know when you buy MacOS. It comes when you buy a Mac. That is one of the catches of buying a Mac. When you put together or buy a PC, some people try to force Windows on you, but you don't necessarily -->have-- to take it. (I'm not sure about Compaq and the biggies, but you can argue with the Fry's peons to get rid of stuff you dont want in leiu of better stuff). But when you buy a Mac, its generally accepted that it comes with MacOS, being as that is what the Apple machines are all developed for.
If MS (hope to hell they arent) started selling machines, it would be a given that you would get some version MSWindows on the machine. Its like that with Apple. Now if someone started cloning Macs, then you wouldn't necessarily expect MacOS, but they would probably still have it anyway.
But the bottom line is that you knew you were going to buy MacOS when you bought the machine.
--
Peace is for those who don't own an elephant gun.
My official response is not enough sleep.
I lost my respect for ESR as a person who knows what he is talking about somewhere near the "GNU Linux" thing. Before he just seemed slightly odd, now he seems more fanantical in nature.
Or maybe thats just me.
If you run, say, a BBS, and someone spams it to hell, and you delete the spam, do you not write something so that it would be significantly more dificult for them to spam?
Anyways, if that isn't the government's job, what is? If went completely lax on business regulations, everything would be owned by 2 or 3 MegaCorps.
With some miracle, regulation could be passed that forbids exactly what it is that Microsoft is doing. That way, MS would have to change, and no other company could take its place. I don't mean anti-trust laws; those already exist. I mean more specific to software. And if done right, it can be kept from leaking into the internet.
:P
I'm not quite sure how it would be worded or worked, but I think that it could possible be done, so that it appeases most of the people, but specifically me.
Some regulation wouldn't help. If they just broke up Microsoft, then another company could potentially do the same thing in 50 years from now. If they make some -->REASONABLE-- regulations, then something like this wouldn't happen again.
They also appear to be brainwashing them that "hacking" means doing something evil with computers. Gee... I thought it meant writing code.
Is it just me or is a laser way too uneconomical? They would be better off making a huge projector out of the sun. Place it in a stationary orbit, synchonrous with the Earth, so that there is always one HUGE pIzaa Hut ad hanging there in the sky. Even better, if the focused light on it, aliens would be able to see a huge Pizza Hut logo on the surface of Earth! Wooooo advertising!
If I were in charge I wouldn't tell people the whole truth. Nuclear accidents have a tendency to be downplayed for many years after the actual accident (as in China Syndrome). This helps both calm the people and provide a better outlook at your skills as governer or whatever.
If there really was a big problem, telling the whole world they were about to die wouldn't be on your agenda. Just let people live in ignorance is soooooooooo much better than the alternative.
If you don't agree, then I heavily suggest you never vote for me if I decide to run for office.
How do they convince intelligent geeks that, after all, the long-term assurance of privacy and personal liberties isn't that important. Is it money? Do they snag them early in college? What? My guess would be that they start be either being really really bad BOFHs or that they think that there is some security needed, and over time they just get deeper and deeper into the whole security thing... losing site of reality.
Privacy in computers can not feasibly exist. The only way you could go about doing something like that is having everyone be trustworthy which is not going to happen.
Other than that, there will be no stop to the privacy invading software that will be made in the future.
Were fucked.
They may be kinda sticky, but they DO help if you have no idea what you are doing. But by using one you are in no way a computer expert.
(Copy of my reply above)
I think he'd have trouble installing Win(insert year) too...
A novice computer user should not be trying to install an OS. They should be familiar with it to the point where they are not a novice any more. Get someone else to install the OS, just like a pre-manufactured MS machine.
I think he'd have trouble installing Win(insert year) too...
A novice computer user should not be trying to install an OS. They should be familiar with it to the point where they are not a novice any more. Get someone else to install the OS, just like a pre-manufactured MS machine.
I have only installed Solaris, and all I had to do was click.
But when it came to setting it up, I had to call people over, for I am no expert in such matters. It seems that the only real way to learn is for other people to tell you how to do while you are actually installing and setting it up.
A (one-time?) class on this would be nice... like something at a Comm. College or of that sort, but there don't appear to be any.
Oh well.
But in the meantime he shouldn't be writing articles about it.
It would be like SportsCenter doing a segment on Astronomy.... they would have NO idea what they are talking about.