Actually, it's more of a 'Ray Noorda is a bitter, bitter man, and he doesn't care what kind of a legal precedent his revenge sets, or what kind of machinery it sets in motion' story.
But anyhow, I guess we carry on. It isn't like half the Linux community cheered on a litigious legalistic battle against Microsoft or anything. . . is it?
I believe that Apple doesn't care if people try to recreate the Aqua look on their own,
I believe that Apple cares deeply when people copy their look and feel. However, they had that particular tentacle chopped off in the Look-n-feel suits, which they lost.
I have a Nikon Slide Scanner that only works with the oldest version of Windows 95, or Windows 3.1. I guess there's a SANE driver that I should fiddle around with sometime, too. But it seems to be an old unmaintained piece of code. Still would be worth putting on a system with an old version of Linux if it made the Slide Scanner go well, though. But I am starting to need an 8-port KVM switch, my 4-wide switch isn't cutting it anymore. Dual-boot is against my religion.
There is an excellent new book out on the Gulag System right now. I'm reading it, and hope many other people are reading it as well.
Guantanimo Bay isn't a Gulag. It doesn't even come close. Hell, the Soviet Gulag system makes the Nazi concentration camps look like amateur operations in comparison.
However, since the USSR didn't lose WWII, camera crews never, ever, rolled in to document the atrocities and abuse.
On your Hellman cites. Lots of references on.edu sites exist that say many things. Those particular pages you cited are both tilde sites, i.e. the home pages of specific academics. Why do you package the URLs like they're official edicts from the Regents of the respective Universities?
There have always been plenty of 'Useful Idiots' throughout history, used by both the 'left' and the 'right' at various times, who've produced work with significant artistic merit.
McCarthy was the 'fringe element' of the Anti-Communist movement of the 1950's and 60's. He's always, consistently held up as if he is representative of the whole movement.
That's like claiming that the whole 'New Left' of the 60's is fairly represented by a flake like Jerry Rubin (who 'sold out' in the end)
Our constitutional rights are in constant jeaporady, any time Congress is in session.
Seems you don't know shit about McCarthyism and what was happening back then. I presume you've read only a select and partisan history of what went on back then.
McCarthy was ultimately defeated by his 'fellow' Anti-communists, because he was an opportunist loonie who did more damage to the cause of freedom than even most Communists.
And yes, there WERE Communists deeply embedded in US Government in that era. The USSR has fallen and the Kremlin archives are opened up enough to document it irrefutably now. People don't talk about it as much, but it's been definitively proven that the Rosenburgs were guilty.
McCarthy was an idiot, an opportunist, and a buffoon.
Do they accept PayPal? I donated under $2 to the EFF 'on priniciple' and just as I hoped, they've spent much more than that sending me mailings trying to get me to contribute more.
Organizations like those exist to fund the 'operators' who run them. Give them a donation and they'll piss it away trying to get more. Oh, and pay themselves well for doing so.
You had a class with a Union Boss? Or was it an Industry Lobbyist? Both classes of people write a lot of legislation and have their 'boy in Washington' mouthpiece it.
More 'special interests' write bills than anybody else.
You can shake rattles and dance around in a grass skirt in your church if you like. You can marry humans to basset hounds if you like.
Just remember, it's your side that always wants to seperate church from state. Quit acting like your sexual tastes are everybody's business to shove in their faces.
I just can't believe that Naziesque jerk ever got elected to ANY public office.
Actually, President Bush is one of the few Texas governors in recent history to be re-elected. Just like he's going to be re-elected President.
Maybe Alex Baldwin and his ilk will get the fuck out after this election. Or are they going to go back on the word (something known as 'pulling a Wellstone', named after that little creep who promised he'd only serve one term)
If you're not going to contribute to the discussion, please select that checkbox in the lower left. The 'No Karma Bonus' will keep your offtopic drivel from appearing to those of us who read the comments with a +2 filter.
If you read Linus' early announcements, he said that "it works on the 80386 and probably won't ever work on anything else." (not the exact quote, but the gist of it)
Linux has become more cross-platform since then, but a widely cross-platform distribution (i.e. kernel and userland) has never really been a big priority for any Linux distributor. For that you want NetBSD.
But what does this have to do with the history of x86??
If you'd put more of your message into the subject line, it would have propagated down through the entire discussion, as I'm about 4/5 of the way through the comments and still reading replies to your troll.
And one heck of a troll it was. You've hooked a whole lake full of suckers, dude.
If we could somehow convince them all to embrace martyrdom simultaneously, think how quickly the whole problem would go away.
Those fat and happy religious zealots can only dupe their children into carrying their bombs for so long before it becomes apparent what they were all about.
Kinda like how being in the only country with nukes did. Except that didn't last.
Agreed. And a big part of the reason why it didn't last was that while American liberals were running around screaming about 'red baiting' and trying to create as porous a security network as possible, Soviet agents pulled the Atom bomb secrets through said holes.
Stalin had the bomb because his agents stole the secrets.
And it was a good thing when the Rosenbergs were killed. The post-Soviet opening of the Kremlin archives proved as much.
Hardware makers have been designing around the software since PC-DOS in 1982. And the 8088 was 'designed around' compatability with the 8080 and ultimately the 8008.
The whole history of the x86 legacy processor line is and has been based around software compatability. For as long as some youngsters who participate in this forum have been alive.
As was the case for many projects of the time, though, by 1997 The Spot was gone, another victim of the dot-com bust.
The 'dot.com' bust occured several years after 1997. It sounds like the site was devoured in the dot.com boom, instead. Was it taken over by a conglomerate, similar to the way a number of good independent sites and companies were 'taken over', i.e. the handover.net thing?
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Actually, it's more of a 'Ray Noorda is a bitter, bitter man, and he doesn't care what kind of a legal precedent his revenge sets, or what kind of machinery it sets in motion' story.
But anyhow, I guess we carry on. It isn't like half the Linux community cheered on a litigious legalistic battle against Microsoft or anything. . . is it?
I believe that Apple doesn't care if people try to recreate the Aqua look on their own,
I believe that Apple cares deeply when people copy their look and feel. However, they had that particular tentacle chopped off in the Look-n-feel suits, which they lost.
I have a Nikon Slide Scanner that only works with the oldest version of Windows 95, or Windows 3.1. I guess there's a SANE driver that I should fiddle around with sometime, too. But it seems to be an old unmaintained piece of code. Still would be worth putting on a system with an old version of Linux if it made the Slide Scanner go well, though. But I am starting to need an 8-port KVM switch, my 4-wide switch isn't cutting it anymore. Dual-boot is against my religion.
There is an excellent new book out on the Gulag System right now. I'm reading it, and hope many other people are reading it as well.
Guantanimo Bay isn't a Gulag. It doesn't even come close. Hell, the Soviet Gulag system makes the Nazi concentration camps look like amateur operations in comparison.
However, since the USSR didn't lose WWII, camera crews never, ever, rolled in to document the atrocities and abuse.
Sorry for going off on a tangent.
On your Hellman cites. Lots of references on .edu sites exist that say many things. Those particular pages you cited are both tilde sites, i.e. the home pages of specific academics. Why do you package the URLs like they're official edicts from the Regents of the respective Universities?
There have always been plenty of 'Useful Idiots' throughout history, used by both the 'left' and the 'right' at various times, who've produced work with significant artistic merit.
McCarthy was the 'fringe element' of the Anti-Communist movement of the 1950's and 60's. He's always, consistently held up as if he is representative of the whole movement.
That's like claiming that the whole 'New Left' of the 60's is fairly represented by a flake like Jerry Rubin (who 'sold out' in the end)
Our constitutional rights are in constant jeaporady, any time Congress is in session.
The Voice in My Head tells me all I need to know.
By all means don't deviate from the parody opponents and villans that you've finely crafted.
Seems you don't know shit about McCarthyism and what was happening back then. I presume you've read only a select and partisan history of what went on back then.
McCarthy was ultimately defeated by his 'fellow' Anti-communists, because he was an opportunist loonie who did more damage to the cause of freedom than even most Communists.
And yes, there WERE Communists deeply embedded in US Government in that era. The USSR has fallen and the Kremlin archives are opened up enough to document it irrefutably now. People don't talk about it as much, but it's been definitively proven that the Rosenburgs were guilty.
McCarthy was an idiot, an opportunist, and a buffoon.
And he didn't have 'FBI drones.'
Where the ACLU (and their crowd in general) really blow it is in defending people's freedom of association.
(And an ACLU 'me too' on the Limbaugh case just demonstrates what a trumped up political bullshit operation the whole Limbaugh/drug thing was.)
It's discouraging that you folks can quote and cite German history totally out of context and get away with it.
Hitler wasn't a conservative, by the way. He planned on heralding in a 'New Age' based on his new and marvelous theories, using an all-powerful state.
Stalin and Roosevelt were into that kind of thing, too. It's a wonder the world didn't implode at about the middle of the 20th Century.
Oh wait! It almost did!
Do they accept PayPal? I donated under $2 to the EFF 'on priniciple' and just as I hoped, they've spent much more than that sending me mailings trying to get me to contribute more.
Organizations like those exist to fund the 'operators' who run them. Give them a donation and they'll piss it away trying to get more. Oh, and pay themselves well for doing so.
You had a class with a Union Boss? Or was it an Industry Lobbyist? Both classes of people write a lot of legislation and have their 'boy in Washington' mouthpiece it.
More 'special interests' write bills than anybody else.
You can shake rattles and dance around in a grass skirt in your church if you like. You can marry humans to basset hounds if you like.
Just remember, it's your side that always wants to seperate church from state. Quit acting like your sexual tastes are everybody's business to shove in their faces.
I just can't believe that Naziesque jerk ever got elected to ANY public office.
Actually, President Bush is one of the few Texas governors in recent history to be re-elected. Just like he's going to be re-elected President.
Maybe Alex Baldwin and his ilk will get the fuck out after this election. Or are they going to go back on the word (something known as 'pulling a Wellstone', named after that little creep who promised he'd only serve one term)
If you're not going to contribute to the discussion, please select that checkbox in the lower left. The 'No Karma Bonus' will keep your offtopic drivel from appearing to those of us who read the comments with a +2 filter.
You're citing the New York Times as an alternative to fake news?
There were terrorists in Iraq, and there are specific instances of terrorists arrested since Saddam fell.
If the rest of the drivel you typed is as inaccurite as that, I'm glad I quit reading your misleading untruths.
If you read Linus' early announcements, he said that "it works on the 80386 and probably won't ever work on anything else." (not the exact quote, but the gist of it)
Linux has become more cross-platform since then, but a widely cross-platform distribution (i.e. kernel and userland) has never really been a big priority for any Linux distributor. For that you want NetBSD.
But what does this have to do with the history of x86??
Clearly you fucked up.
If you'd put more of your message into the subject line, it would have propagated down through the entire discussion, as I'm about 4/5 of the way through the comments and still reading replies to your troll.
And one heck of a troll it was. You've hooked a whole lake full of suckers, dude.
If we could somehow convince them all to embrace martyrdom simultaneously, think how quickly the whole problem would go away.
Those fat and happy religious zealots can only dupe their children into carrying their bombs for so long before it becomes apparent what they were all about.
Kinda like how being in the only country with nukes did. Except that didn't last.
Agreed. And a big part of the reason why it didn't last was that while American liberals were running around screaming about 'red baiting' and trying to create as porous a security network as possible, Soviet agents pulled the Atom bomb secrets through said holes.
Stalin had the bomb because his agents stole the secrets.
And it was a good thing when the Rosenbergs were killed. The post-Soviet opening of the Kremlin archives proved as much.
Have you ever run A/UX? It's not really an 'Apple platform.' It's Apple ruining a non-Apple platform.
My quad processor system is noisier than even an AMD system. And it's only a Pentium Pro server.
You're kidding, right?
Hardware makers have been designing around the software since PC-DOS in 1982. And the 8088 was 'designed around' compatability with the 8080 and ultimately the 8008.
The whole history of the x86 legacy processor line is and has been based around software compatability. For as long as some youngsters who participate in this forum have been alive.
As was the case for many projects of the time, though, by 1997 The Spot was gone, another victim of the dot-com bust.
The 'dot.com' bust occured several years after 1997. It sounds like the site was devoured in the dot.com boom, instead. Was it taken over by a conglomerate, similar to the way a number of good independent sites and companies were 'taken over', i.e. the handover.net thing?
I remember the kids in school who got a star after their name.
Shouldn't you be ordering something from that big ThinkGeek banner right now?