cygwin is just a layer of Win32.dll files and hardly elegant.
Somebody should really be working on the 'key to the treasury' which would be a free open-source POSIX subsystem that runs direct on the Windows NT kernel. An Interix clone, so to speak. Softway Systems, the producer of Interix, put the question out to the Interix userbase a short while before the company was sold to Microsoft, asking for support in the idea of open sourcing Interix. The silence was sorta deafening.
The easy obvious one is the 'revealing an agent' bit. Total unmitigated bullshit. There is so much strong evidence in the opposing arguement that you discredit yourself by spreading such fodder.
I'm not happy with certain things that are going on. But I know that when Clinton was President, the Rabid-Wing Republicans were spreading the same sort of hysteria that you are now. Don't be a dupe for political operatives. They just want power back, for power's sake. Same as it ever was, with either party in power.
Yep. Google just has this, err... something... err... magic! about it that the fact that while the company is now completely stacked with advertising types it doesn't mean they are bad. Or probably not.
Seriously, they're just the latest sellout. Which is okay. But damnit, let's stop the adulation stuff, please.
the Commission has largely ignored them, and has contented itself by simply amending Part 15 to require that BPL operators have the capability to apply "mitigation techniques" to reduce, but not eliminate, interference after the fact.
An interesting correlary is that there are other users (i.e. Ham Radio Operators) who have no obligation to engage in 'mitigation techniques' if they interfere with the BPL operation.
The BPL operators won't have to 'shut down' their operation. Others can shut it down for them, simply by communicating with CW on frequencies they are properly entitled to use, with squeaky clean signals that do NOT interfere with other traditional non-Part 15 regulated services.
And by the same token, anybody who is depending on 'net access travelling over that big receiving antenna near a ham operator with a powerful HF rig is in trouble.
Its widely known they ARE abusing their power with Rendition, holding Jose Padilla without charges or trial, revealing a covert agent's name as a form of petty vengance, authorizing torture and lying the nation in to the war in Iraq
It's interesting to see so many half-truths and conspiracy theories nicely woven together.
Unfortunately there are people who actually believe nonsense like that. Please promise to me that you're not one of them, that you're just making cynical use of it as propaganda.
Before Microsoft came on the scene, there were a few other companies trying to make a 'consumer' PC. Apple did a pretty good job of this with the Apple 2 systems, for one example. The 'opponents' of the whole concept of a 'Personal Computer' were the old computer oligarchy, the powerful white-coated staffers who tended to the Mainframe, and acted as a buffer, often an abrasive unfriendly buffer, that 'mere humans' had to go through to get to the data they needed to do their job/conduct their research/etc.
It was and is a very liberating thing to have a lot of computing power under your direct control. The current generation of 'new' computer users (anybody whose computer usage doesn't reach back farther than the mid 80's) just can't grasp the idea. Those of us who experienced 'the old days' know what it was like. And there are and always will be hangers-on who embrace an 'IT' culture and trade in the power they maintain over 'mere users.' They are greatly threatened by a flat open computing architecture. They're the people like Larry Ellision and some of the folks at Sun who promote a modern version of the old 'terminal' approach to computers. And some of the UNIX crowd, the ones who don't get it, and never will.
The anti-Gates feeling you can detect on Slashdot is largely due to his influence on the computer industry,
Indeed. Without the Gates empire and the direction for the 'computer industry' that it has pushed and promoted, regular folks could be sitting at home comfortably watching TV. The more ambitious among them could be on a global network of VT-100 terminals connected to the big mainframes well-maintained and controlled by white-coated 'IT Professionals' who are the experts and have the only accounts with security access to change anything significant. Because that's what the 'sysadmins' of the world want, and it's what the Gates company has fought against for decades.
(Arguably, Gates has had a Robin-Hood scenario going for decades: 'A computer on every desk' that is not maintained and controlled by the IT Oligarchy.)
Near as I can tell (and it's hard, what with having to sift through all the hysteria and hype) polar bears have been drowning for as long as they've existed as a species and used ice floes as a means of transportation.
Have you seen the new movie 'Chicken Little'?? There is a whole crowd of people involved in this discussion who would probably enjoy it a lot.
Mellow out. It might mean living a life with a little more ambiguous 'purpose' but give it a try.
i just thought that having a discussion about someone's stupid degree (can someone really be worth any degree if you consider 1 language world-wide spoken ?) while the damn planet is going down is kind of weird...
Well, jebus cripes! If 'the damn planet is going down' in your view, why the heck are you planted between chair and screen and wiggling your fingers over a keyboard? Isn't there dried food and water for you to be gathering up? Shouldn't you be microfilming US Army Survival Training Manuals and making sure you have spare bulbs for your microfiche reader in your Bunker???!!!???
Think, Man! You've got to SAVE THE WORLD, and SAVE YOURSELF!!!
Quick! Fetch the zoom lens! We need a few heart-rending shots of some poor critter suffering and dying, just like they've always suffered and died, to use in pushing our Sociopolitical Agenda!
Back at the exact same era when the 'Walkman' became the accessory that no flaky, rich 'New Wave Chick' would be without (**), I was walking the streets of Minneapolis playing Punk Rawk classics like the 'Suicide Commandoes' on a cheap thrift-store Cassette Tape Player. You know the kind: cheap little speaker inline with the tape compartment, piano-style keys for stop/play/rewind/ffwd/record.
I'm claiming prior art here and now.
(** And History Repeats Itself with the current iPod 'fashion' (***) statement)
(*** "Fashion, turn to the left. Fashion, turn to the right. Oooooooh, Beep Beep. We are the goon squad and we're coming to town!"- Dave Bowie on 'Scary Monsters, Super Creeps')
The 6809 was a stepping stone for Motorola to the 68000. As such, it *is* mostly a footnote in history, but an essential one. The reasons for appreciating the 6809 are technical. The reasons for appreciating the 6502 are nostalgia. That essentially wraps it up.
What you describe was nothing special. You could 'strip down' a PC to be pretty much the same. Pull out the floppy controller and save to the 'cassette port' built onto the first generation IBM-PC. Instant-on BASIC survived up until the PC-AT era.
The thing is, nobody did that with the PC, because it was weak and pathetic. I wrote a 'word processor' in ASM for my TRS-80 Model 1. It let me fill the screen with text, then would save the text to cassette tape. It took a number of minutes to write the whole screen to tape. It wasn't that cool, and certainly nothing anybody would care to use today. Just nostalgia stuff, really.
The 6502 is a processor with a stunted execution unit.
The real processors of the day were the 6809. The Zilog had it's merits, but Motorola made the best processors of the day. Which morphed into the 68000 for 'big' use (i.e. the Mac, the Atari ST...) and the 68HC11 for 'embedded' use.
The 6502 was just 'cheap.' That's the only reason it made it into the Apple 2. Obviously, that's why it was in the Commodore system (which was a veritable manifestation of cheapness incarnate).
No, the proper method of recoving that energy is to crush the yapping cell phone talkers and toss their bodies in a digester to convert them to methane.
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harumph! That's not a BUG. That's a FEATURE of Linux.
cygwin is just a layer of Win32 .dll files and hardly elegant.
Somebody should really be working on the 'key to the treasury' which would be a free open-source POSIX subsystem that runs direct on the Windows NT kernel. An Interix clone, so to speak. Softway Systems, the producer of Interix, put the question out to the Interix userbase a short while before the company was sold to Microsoft, asking for support in the idea of open sourcing Interix. The silence was sorta deafening.
I have numerous highly useful machines whose only connection to the outside world is the power cord and the ethernet cable.
The easy obvious one is the 'revealing an agent' bit. Total unmitigated bullshit. There is so much strong evidence in the opposing arguement that you discredit yourself by spreading such fodder.
I'm not happy with certain things that are going on. But I know that when Clinton was President, the Rabid-Wing Republicans were spreading the same sort of hysteria that you are now. Don't be a dupe for political operatives. They just want power back, for power's sake. Same as it ever was, with either party in power.
Yep. Google just has this, err... something... err... magic! about it that the fact that while the company is now completely stacked with advertising types it doesn't mean they are bad. Or probably not.
Seriously, they're just the latest sellout. Which is okay. But damnit, let's stop the adulation stuff, please.
the Commission has largely ignored them, and has contented itself by simply amending Part 15 to require that BPL operators have the capability to apply "mitigation techniques" to reduce, but not eliminate, interference after the fact.
An interesting correlary is that there are other users (i.e. Ham Radio Operators) who have no obligation to engage in 'mitigation techniques' if they interfere with the BPL operation.
The BPL operators won't have to 'shut down' their operation. Others can shut it down for them, simply by communicating with CW on frequencies they are properly entitled to use, with squeaky clean signals that do NOT interfere with other traditional non-Part 15 regulated services.
And by the same token, anybody who is depending on 'net access travelling over that big receiving antenna near a ham operator with a powerful HF rig is in trouble.
I had the Assembler/Editor for the TRS-80 Model 1 on Cassette Tape.
It took many, many minutes to load up from cassette.
I also had TBug, the light duty but powerful Z-80 monitor program.
The modern comparison would be MASM versus DEBUG on MS-DOS.
It was a no-brainer. If you wanted to hack assembler on the TRS-80 you used TBug. Or you got a disk drive (I wasn't a rich kid)
Its widely known they ARE abusing their power with Rendition, holding Jose Padilla without charges or trial, revealing a covert agent's name as a form of petty vengance, authorizing torture and lying the nation in to the war in Iraq
It's interesting to see so many half-truths and conspiracy theories nicely woven together.
Unfortunately there are people who actually believe nonsense like that. Please promise to me that you're not one of them, that you're just making cynical use of it as propaganda.
Before Microsoft came on the scene, there were a few other companies trying to make a 'consumer' PC. Apple did a pretty good job of this with the Apple 2 systems, for one example. The 'opponents' of the whole concept of a 'Personal Computer' were the old computer oligarchy, the powerful white-coated staffers who tended to the Mainframe, and acted as a buffer, often an abrasive unfriendly buffer, that 'mere humans' had to go through to get to the data they needed to do their job/conduct their research/etc.
It was and is a very liberating thing to have a lot of computing power under your direct control. The current generation of 'new' computer users (anybody whose computer usage doesn't reach back farther than the mid 80's) just can't grasp the idea. Those of us who experienced 'the old days' know what it was like. And there are and always will be hangers-on who embrace an 'IT' culture and trade in the power they maintain over 'mere users.' They are greatly threatened by a flat open computing architecture. They're the people like Larry Ellision and some of the folks at Sun who promote a modern version of the old 'terminal' approach to computers. And some of the UNIX crowd, the ones who don't get it, and never will.
The anti-Gates feeling you can detect on Slashdot is largely due to his influence on the computer industry,
Indeed. Without the Gates empire and the direction for the 'computer industry' that it has pushed and promoted, regular folks could be sitting at home comfortably watching TV. The more ambitious among them could be on a global network of VT-100 terminals connected to the big mainframes well-maintained and controlled by white-coated 'IT Professionals' who are the experts and have the only accounts with security access to change anything significant. Because that's what the 'sysadmins' of the world want, and it's what the Gates company has fought against for decades.
(Arguably, Gates has had a Robin-Hood scenario going for decades: 'A computer on every desk' that is not maintained and controlled by the IT Oligarchy.)
Me, I like living in the country (it's COOL having four or five acres of land to do your projects on!) and driving cheap beatup old trucks.
Near as I can tell (and it's hard, what with having to sift through all the hysteria and hype) polar bears have been drowning for as long as they've existed as a species and used ice floes as a means of transportation.
Have you seen the new movie 'Chicken Little'?? There is a whole crowd of people involved in this discussion who would probably enjoy it a lot.
Mellow out. It might mean living a life with a little more ambiguous 'purpose' but give it a try.
Y'know, nature might be fine with that, but as a sentient human I have a small problem.
And your problem is that it's not happening Under Your Control??
That's all I can deduce from your comment, and the key hint you gave about your being sentient.
i just thought that having a discussion about someone's stupid degree (can someone really be worth any degree if you consider 1 language world-wide spoken ?) while the damn planet is going down is kind of weird ...
Well, jebus cripes! If 'the damn planet is going down' in your view, why the heck are you planted between chair and screen and wiggling your fingers over a keyboard? Isn't there dried food and water for you to be gathering up? Shouldn't you be microfilming US Army Survival Training Manuals and making sure you have spare bulbs for your microfiche reader in your Bunker???!!!???
Think, Man! You've got to SAVE THE WORLD, and SAVE YOURSELF!!!
What sort of background exactly do you think a paleoclimatologist should have?
Well, first off, a charter membership in the Green Party. Regular participation at Earth First! rallies....
No, scratch that. I was just continuing the grandparent's thoughts...
Quick! Fetch the zoom lens! We need a few heart-rending shots of some poor critter suffering and dying, just like they've always suffered and died, to use in pushing our Sociopolitical Agenda!
Back at the exact same era when the 'Walkman' became the accessory that no flaky, rich 'New Wave Chick' would be without (**), I was walking the streets of Minneapolis playing Punk Rawk classics like the 'Suicide Commandoes' on a cheap thrift-store Cassette Tape Player. You know the kind: cheap little speaker inline with the tape compartment, piano-style keys for stop/play/rewind/ffwd/record.
I'm claiming prior art here and now.
(** And History Repeats Itself with the current iPod 'fashion' (***) statement)
(*** "Fashion, turn to the left. Fashion, turn to the right. Oooooooh, Beep Beep. We are the goon squad and we're coming to town!"- Dave Bowie on 'Scary Monsters, Super Creeps')
The 6809 was a stepping stone for Motorola to the 68000. As such, it *is* mostly a footnote in history, but an essential one. The reasons for appreciating the 6809 are technical. The reasons for appreciating the 6502 are nostalgia. That essentially wraps it up.
True, but former Amiga fans mostly use Linux as a platform to hate Microsoft from.
That sort of person just detracts from what Linux is really for.
What you describe was nothing special. You could 'strip down' a PC to be pretty much the same. Pull out the floppy controller and save to the 'cassette port' built onto the first generation IBM-PC. Instant-on BASIC survived up until the PC-AT era.
The thing is, nobody did that with the PC, because it was weak and pathetic. I wrote a 'word processor' in ASM for my TRS-80 Model 1. It let me fill the screen with text, then would save the text to cassette tape. It took a number of minutes to write the whole screen to tape. It wasn't that cool, and certainly nothing anybody would care to use today. Just nostalgia stuff, really.
Thank god I now have something to do.
Something besides running Linux on the desktop, you mean?
Also, Open Office will take 782 days to start up on it.
The 6502 is a processor with a stunted execution unit.
The real processors of the day were the 6809. The Zilog had it's merits, but Motorola made the best processors of the day. Which morphed into the 68000 for 'big' use (i.e. the Mac, the Atari ST...) and the 68HC11 for 'embedded' use.
The 6502 was just 'cheap.' That's the only reason it made it into the Apple 2. Obviously, that's why it was in the Commodore system (which was a veritable manifestation of cheapness incarnate).
No, the proper method of recoving that energy is to crush the yapping cell phone talkers and toss their bodies in a digester to convert them to methane.
Or that's how I feel about it anyhow.