Ok, we certainly disagree - maybe it's a matter of taste, maybe of different experiences.
One more point, though: the round-trips to the database argument assumes you're using a remote database. Using UNIX sockets you can get as much bandwidth as possible with any other IPC method or even memory transfer. So the problem is the same: our JVM or the database one (since the SP transfers with the database the same amount of data you would transfer from the middle tier)
And another point: the new kid on the Java block, the DSL acronym, advices exactly the opposite: dont' use Java where it doesn't make sense. Use something well-suited: in case of databases, use PLSQL (or the procedural flavour available)
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How is adding Java stored procedures a bad thing?
First, because it will make easier for developers to put more application logic in the database.
Second, because a native compiled stored procedure (native, that is, to the DBMS) would be faster
But mostly, because free hosting which maintains something based on Java it's like.. not there.
And you have to admit that free hosting w/ MySQL is one of the reasons LAMP developers are so many, and LAMP is successful
Sure you can use only CRUD operations and do everything in the middle or client tier but it's not always the most efficient.
Exactly my point. But moving the bytecode from the middle tier into the database makes no difference either.
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I think it's long-term bye-bye LAMP, since Sun may "empower" MySQL with Java stored procedures, may obfuscate the documentation(like Oracle does), or remove the transactions altogether and replace them with soft ones (JTA),... or anything you can expect (if you've seen a Java programmer using 1% of databases' features..)
This (good) news only proves that Silverlight and JavaFX did something: kicked the ass of the dominant RIA player to open up, first the Flex 3 SDK, now the AMF protocol and who knows, in 2 years the VM too? (aka Flash Player)
This is a good thing(tm): a de facto standard becoming open;)
If you look at "Company of Heroes - Image quality", the first "grass effects" comparison shows am octogonal wheel.
I mean, 2007! and we still have octogonal circles!!
I think that the "realism" isn't worth it. Go out and create DX7 games that are fun:P !! (or openGL games that don't require much extensions;)
"I/O Cancellation"?
What crossed my mind is that network packets were coming with negative amplitude compared with soundcard DMA requests.. and the network I/O loses, as from a cancellation effect:-S
I'm sorry - here in Romania we only have the national channel broadcasted country-wide, through airwaves.
All others are satellite and we get them through the cable companies.
So basically I thought airwaves are pretty "free" in other countries too - guess I was wrong;)
I recently bought a Dell laptop with tons of crap software installed. None of them had the Uninstall button
I solved the problem by replacing that Vista with a clean installed one.
It still puzzles me how they (Dell) did it, but haven't had the time to check it myself.
Either Adobe Flex, Microsoft Silverlight, or Sun JavaFX, the same - I still wonder why they spent 21 days cloning one of the vendors' implementation when they could have released a 4th one in 42 days, therefore twice as better!!
In computer or not, one thing concers me:
Candidates won't know which questions they are being asked.
Is that also true when they are formulating their answers?
The real good thing that's happening in WebKit/WebCore right now is the work going on to make it work with GTK+/GDK.
Now that's interesting. Where did you get that from? (seriously, you have any links?)
I understand that Apollo is using the KHTML/WebKit rendering engine, but Safari is also about a Window Library (a Carbon port to Windows? probably the same used in iTunes for Windows?).
Where does GTK come to play here? Objective-C bindings:D? Carbon skin? both?
I disagree - take a look here.
Now, without "enforcement of law and public order, protection of property, economic infrastructure (roads, legal tender, enforcement of contracts, etc.), education systems, health care systems" would you be able to work?
Not to mention the obviousness that the state does not help you winning things - therefore one shall not be "taxed" for this (otherwise, all participants would have to pay an equal share of taxes, since their presence at the "lottery" is a service the state grants, and the winning of it _is not_)
the most standard way of installing things is compiling it with the help of autoconf
I agree with this.
Since the GNU Build System is already checking for presence of dependencies, any other way of enforcing them should be an unneeded redundancy.
The next logical step is to consider distros like Slackware already having "the" ubiquitous installation mechanism, and there would be no need for a CNR.com to wrap.deb and.rpm packages that wrap GBS configured software.
Unfortunately, the GBS has yet to be proven Joe-Sixpack-friendly. So if you want Joe-Sixpack using your preffered OS, you would point him to CNR.com
That, of course, if you want this.
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Ok, we certainly disagree - maybe it's a matter of taste, maybe of different experiences.
One more point, though: the round-trips to the database argument assumes you're using a remote database. Using UNIX sockets you can get as much bandwidth as possible with any other IPC method or even memory transfer. So the problem is the same: our JVM or the database one (since the SP transfers with the database the same amount of data you would transfer from the middle tier)
And another point: the new kid on the Java block, the DSL acronym, advices exactly the opposite: dont' use Java where it doesn't make sense. Use something well-suited: in case of databases, use PLSQL (or the procedural flavour available)
How is adding Java stored procedures a bad thing?
First, because it will make easier for developers to put more application logic in the database.
Second, because a native compiled stored procedure (native, that is, to the DBMS) would be faster
But mostly, because free hosting which maintains something based on Java it's like.. not there.
And you have to admit that free hosting w/ MySQL is one of the reasons LAMP developers are so many, and LAMP is successful
Sure you can use only CRUD operations and do everything in the middle or client tier but it's not always the most efficient.
Exactly my point. But moving the bytecode from the middle tier into the database makes no difference either.
I think it's long-term bye-bye LAMP, since Sun may "empower" MySQL with Java stored procedures, may obfuscate the documentation(like Oracle does), or remove the transactions altogether and replace them with soft ones (JTA),... or anything you can expect (if you've seen a Java programmer using 1% of databases' features..)
This (good) news only proves that Silverlight and JavaFX did something: kicked the ass of the dominant RIA player to open up, first the Flex 3 SDK, now the AMF protocol and who knows, in 2 years the VM too? (aka Flash Player)
This is a good thing(tm): a de facto standard becoming open;)
If you look at "Company of Heroes - Image quality", the first "grass effects" comparison shows am octogonal wheel.
:P !! (or openGL games that don't require much extensions;)
I mean, 2007! and we still have octogonal circles!!
I think that the "realism" isn't worth it. Go out and create DX7 games that are fun
Actually, is not that way around here: You only coin 2.0s, and stop there;
So I bet the future will be (breath held).... AJAX 2.0 !!!!!!!
(Not kidding, I do think of JavaScript 2.0...)
Is this the equivalent of computer virtualization on humans?
Now if only the host genome ran XEN..
"I/O Cancellation"?
What crossed my mind is that network packets were coming with negative amplitude compared with soundcard DMA requests.. and the network I/O loses, as from a cancellation effect:-S
Yes, slashdotted: but not a bandwidth/clients problem, but a horrible programming error, it seems.
I'm sorry - here in Romania we only have the national channel broadcasted country-wide, through airwaves.
All others are satellite and we get them through the cable companies.
So basically I thought airwaves are pretty "free" in other countries too - guess I was wrong;)
But aren't TV broadcasters mostly on cable now??
Oh, and sattelites, of course!
Having fat friends makes you fat
Science makes assumptions on the correlation's direction.
I recently bought a Dell laptop with tons of crap software installed. None of them had the Uninstall button
I solved the problem by replacing that Vista with a clean installed one.
It still puzzles me how they (Dell) did it, but haven't had the time to check it myself.
Either Adobe Flex, Microsoft Silverlight, or Sun JavaFX, the same - I still wonder why they spent 21 days cloning one of the vendors' implementation when they could have released a 4th one in 42 days, therefore twice as better!!
Is that also true when they are formulating their answers?
I thought so..
The real good thing that's happening in WebKit/WebCore right now is the work going on to make it work with GTK+/GDK.
Now that's interesting. Where did you get that from? (seriously, you have any links?)
I understand that Apollo is using the KHTML/WebKit rendering engine, but Safari is also about a Window Library (a Carbon port to Windows? probably the same used in iTunes for Windows?).
Where does GTK come to play here? Objective-C bindings:D? Carbon skin? both?
Thanks;)
- The new migration tool recognises Internet Explorer bookmarks, FireFox favourites
One spelling wrong, two menus swapped and a British writing of an "IT term"??
Careful what you're clicking!
..the "off the record" button, in the first place!
I hope they will support Ruby!
I know it's a quote, but now it would be much more funnier if it said "LDS and BSD"
I disagree - take a look here.
Now, without "enforcement of law and public order, protection of property, economic infrastructure (roads, legal tender, enforcement of contracts, etc.), education systems, health care systems" would you be able to work?
Not to mention the obviousness that the state does not help you winning things - therefore one shall not be "taxed" for this
(otherwise, all participants would have to pay an equal share of taxes, since their presence at the "lottery" is a service the state grants, and the winning of it _is not_)
I haven't quite get it, but doesn't CNR hold debs, rpms, tgz etc?
So "dumping to CNR" is nothing but building 10 packages for the ten disto versions?
I agree with this.
Since the GNU Build System is already checking for presence of dependencies, any other way of enforcing them should be an unneeded redundancy.
The next logical step is to consider distros like Slackware already having "the" ubiquitous installation mechanism, and there would be no need for a CNR.com to wrap
Unfortunately, the GBS has yet to be proven Joe-Sixpack-friendly. So if you want Joe-Sixpack using your preffered OS, you would point him to CNR.com
That, of course, if you want this.