Still, the easiest one to remember is of course " ".
reminds me of a funny experience i had. i had this zip file with god knows what in it, probably porno. i had zipped this file with a password on it so the feds (and my parents) couldn't tap into the top secret contents of it, but then a few weeks later when i wanted to open the file i couldn't for the life of me remember what the password was. so in a futile attempt to recover the password, i downloaded a brute force zip password cracker. i left it running for a couple of hours and when i got home from saving the world, it had found 0 passwords. discouraged and pissed off, at the blank password entry prompt i just hit enter, and BAM, there was the zip file extracted and decrypted. thank god know one else knew about how stupid i was, err oops.
For being exploited beyond anyone's wildest dreams, this guy took the whole thing rather well. As a matter of fact, he even went and turned it into a "Make the world a better place" thing.
I can't get over how he didn't get pissed off over this, or at least he didn't mention it in the story. And to further prove that this world has not yet turned into a pulsing blob of shit, alot of people sent pictures to him, with various humorous messages like "WE LOVE MAHIR" or "WE KISS YOU TOO!".
Nice little story that shows that one person can make a difference;)
Get over it, people. This is a bad joke. The guy is an ordinary teacher, and did not prepare the page himself. Still it is a fascinating example of how the Internet has changed the world.
Mahir is on the front pages of Turkish papers, and has been mentioned in a couple of other papers too, most notably Sweden's Aftonbladet and UK's The Observer. CNN has asked him for an interview, and he demanded $50,000.
I don't know how it is in Turkey, but here in the US of A all of this publicity could be negative for a teachers career.
"Mr. Smith's web page - I pictures take of locker room naked girls!"
What purpose does it serve for the hardware companies to implement the ability for wire tapping in their equipment? Does the government give them an easier time with taxes or other stuff if they go and comply with non-existant standards, or what? I don't get it.
So you make it a requirement for plugin makes to include source code with their plugin... if it is some top secret technology that the source code can't be released for them screw them, it shouldnt be on the web... Or some other super intelligent programmer will come along and make their own plugin that handles that 'item' that is top-secret, and he/she will release the source code and blah blah blah.
I'm not insensitive or anything to the subject... I feel blind people or anyone with any disability is 100% equal to you and I, but this is ridiculous. Is there some software that allows blind people to surf the web and like it disagreed with AOL's html mark up, so now they are getting sued? I don't get this at all. Anyone want to explain?
"Why DVD Encryption Crack was a Cinch" | supz (77173) | Preferences | Top | 362 comments | 2 siblings Threshold: Save: The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. Slashdot is not responsible for what they say. ( Beta is only a state of mind ) Totally irresponsible (Score:1) by supz (supz@i.love.spam.net) on 02:36 PM -- Wednesday November 03 1999 EST (#260) (User Info) The guys from M.o.R.E., that made DeCSS are totally immature and irresponsible. Cracking the DVD encryption is not neccesarily the bad thing, the bad thing is that they made this program and distributed it. That ruins DVD for everyone. Now the movie industry is going to have to retaliate and put some alternate protection on DVD's which could even possibly require all of us to purchase new DVD players or something of the sort.
M.o.R.E. should have quietly reported the problem to the Xing and whatever the main company that handles DVD technology is and helped them solve it, not just totally fuck them over, as well as the rest of us.
DVD technology is a really great deal: you get digital quality video and audio and a bunch of extra scenes on one small CD-sized disc, all for about the cost of the movie on video. Why ruin a good thing? I must say that it was also stupid and irresponsible for Xing to not encrypt the key, but two wrongs do not make a right.
Shame on MoRE. [ Reply to This | Parent ] > Re:Totally irresponsible (Score:1) by cr0sh on 03:22 PM -- Wednesday November 03 1999 EST (#305) (User Info) Actually, I think they should have waited to release the program after low-cost means of copying the resulting file became available. A very likely outcome of this whole thing will be some kind of restrictions or something on DVD recorders (tech or price wise)... [ Reply to This | Parent ] Depends on how you look at it. (Score:1) by dpdx (dpdx@nospam.teleport.com) on 03:56 PM -- Wednesday November 03 1999 EST (#327) (User Info) M.o.R.E. should have quietly reported the problem to the Xing and whatever the main company that handles DVD technology is and helped them solve it, not just totally fuck them over, as well as the rest of us.
Even if they'd have done that, that old, crackable system is still burned onto millions of discs, and they're all available at your friendly neighborhood content provider, the video store. That's a lot of Disney flicks to steal.
Second, your premise assumes that MoRE should be interested in helping the nice multi-national megaconglomerates [who presumably represent the people]. That doesn't strike me as realistic.
In fact, I'd tend to think that groups such as this exist to subvert the profit of companies they perceive as evil (not that anyone in this community would know anything about that, based on their dealings with the Open Source Software movement). I don't gather from the article that MoRE is setting up to become your one-stop shopping center for bootleg Meg Ryan flicks. They hacked DVD, probably (if I had to guess) mostly for it's own sake.
Turn the argument around for a second, like this:
cDc is totally irresponsible to all of us who would use Windows because they didn't quietly alert Microsoft to the fact that it was so #@$! easy to administer remote control to a Windows box, and now they're forcing Microsoft to release another version of Windows. How dare they!
A security hole in windows could harm people far worse than a security hole in a DVD, so that little analogy breaks down a hole lot.
The guys from M.o.R.E., that made DeCSS are totally immature and irresponsible. Cracking the DVD encryption is not neccesarily the bad thing, the bad thing is that they made this program and distributed it. That ruins DVD for everyone. Now the movie industry is going to have to retaliate and put some alternate protection on DVD's which could even possibly require all of us to purchase new DVD players or something of the sort.
M.o.R.E. should have quietly reported the problem to the Xing and whatever the main company that handles DVD technology is and helped them solve it, not just totally fuck them over, as well as the rest of us.
DVD technology is a really great deal: you get digital quality video and audio and a bunch of extra scenes on one small CD-sized disc, all for about the cost of the movie on video. Why ruin a good thing? I must say that it was also stupid and irresponsible for Xing to not encrypt the key, but two wrongs do not make a right.
it does have an itsy bitsy bit of something to do w/the topic... "Hemos keeps punishing mine for no reason so I think mine is mentally stunted from having an abused childhood."
How about the web browser makes give you an option to disable cookies from certain servers, or maybe disable any connections with certain servers, or a whole bunch of server/cookie filtering that the user could play around with to make sure they aren't just another user id to some company that wants their money.
My favorite coding music: Nine Inch Nails (The Fragile is excellent)
"Just like you imagined" (Track 7 on the Left CD) is a great coding song. No words to mess up your syntax. A great beat. It's got that awesome Trent-Reznor-ish get-really-quiet-then-suddenly explode thing.
This entire album is awesome, but this post would be a book if I wrote about how much every song rocked.
It's good to see an elected official is writing some legislation that puts restrictions on the government and not just the general public. Nowadays every little piece of legislation is to put restrictions on everything possible, except for the government.
So if a guy waltzes into a store and grabs a couple of items, walks out and didn't know he had to pay, that doesn't qualify as stealing?
The law doesn't show mercy for ignorance... just a little bit of leniancy.
If I send an MP3 to someone under the assumption (which may well have been stated on his page, although I honestly don't know) that they already own the CD, and they happen not to, does that qualify?
In that case they might lessen the charge slightly, just because you didn't know... If you could get the charges dropped by saying you didn't know something, then we would have alot of criminals out on the street 'not knowing' what they are doing.
I'm not sure it's autism. Maybe it's just because he's Bill Gates. I'd have trouble making eye-contact with people, too.
Yah, it's sort of the convicted-murderer-trying-to-look-the-mother-of-on e-of-his-victims-in-the-eye effect, but in this case it's the evil-unstable-os-building-fiend-trying-to-look-a-p issed-off-user-in-the-eye effect.
Of course I had no idea what the username or password would be, I wonder if it's some sort of backdoor for Sega?
I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't store any personal documents on my game system (I don't even think I could), so Sega can have all the backdoors they want on my dreamcast (not that I even own one, yet).
It is interesting however. Maybe they could use it to check for illegally bootlegged games (If the games come on CD, I'm pretty uneducated on the subject).
All of these evil, ruthless, unfair moderators need to be murdered. How was this post a troll? It had everything to do with the topic, and content posted within it. I think the problem is that these moderators would rather - comments rather than +'ing them.
I really hate karma, only because mine is negative, but otherwise I think it's a really cool idea. It's only slightly unfair, for me, because I posted a couple of comments that were moderated +1, a while back, and they weren't factored into my karma, therefore leaving mine negative. So the solution here is for the moderators to moderate this comment to +6 so I can feel like I am among the socially elite among/. readers.
I can tell you firsthand that C++ is just too difficult for first-year CS students in high school
I really have to disagree with that. I took Pascal my first year in high school, which is a Junior course in my HS, and I took C++ sophomore year, a senior course. I had absolutely no problems learning either. I don't know much [anything] about Python so I'm not going to talk trash about it, but I think that C++, even though it's hard, should be one of the first languages anyone learns, because it demands that your programming be organized, indented, and aesthetically pleasing. I know a whole bunch of programming languages and C++ has got to be my favorite.
If you really do care the least bit, rather then trying to play the "I am smarter than group x!" game, you could spen maybe 2 hours of your life reading up on it a bit. Understanding the world and people in it is actually a good thing.
Yah, but I find blind hatred so much more rewarding than being nice and understanding. Where would this world be without hate? No guns, no holocaust, no denial of service attacks. Hate makes the world go round.
Plus veg[etari]ans suck at driving, and don't know the different between the fast lane and the slow lane... and lanes all together.
Having said this, there are some well-known exceptions: microsoft's crypto apis and sun's java library apis, for example. I don't know if they got a specific license from the gov't, or if the law was loosened. I rather suspect they got a license.
maybe this is why they got whatever license this guy is talking about.
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Still, the easiest one to remember is of course " ".
reminds me of a funny experience i had. i had this zip file with god knows what in it, probably porno. i had zipped this file with a password on it so the feds (and my parents) couldn't tap into the top secret contents of it, but then a few weeks later when i wanted to open the file i couldn't for the life of me remember what the password was. so in a futile attempt to recover the password, i downloaded a brute force zip password cracker. i left it running for a couple of hours and when i got home from saving the world, it had found 0 passwords. discouraged and pissed off, at the blank password entry prompt i just hit enter, and BAM, there was the zip file extracted and decrypted. thank god know one else knew about how stupid i was, err oops.
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For being exploited beyond anyone's wildest dreams, this guy took the whole thing rather well. As a matter of fact, he even went and turned it into a "Make the world a better place" thing.
;)
I can't get over how he didn't get pissed off over this, or at least he didn't mention it in the story. And to further prove that this world has not yet turned into a pulsing blob of shit, alot of people sent pictures to him, with various humorous messages like "WE LOVE MAHIR" or "WE KISS YOU TOO!".
Nice little story that shows that one person can make a difference
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Get over it, people. This is a bad joke. The guy is an ordinary teacher, and did not prepare the page himself. Still it is a fascinating example of how the Internet has changed the world.
Mahir is on the front pages of Turkish papers, and has been mentioned in a couple of other papers too, most notably Sweden's Aftonbladet and UK's The Observer. CNN has asked him for an interview, and he demanded $50,000.
I don't know how it is in Turkey, but here in the US of A all of this publicity could be negative for a teachers career.
"Mr. Smith's web page - I pictures take of locker room naked girls!"
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What purpose does it serve for the hardware companies to implement the ability for wire tapping in their equipment? Does the government give them an easier time with taxes or other stuff if they go and comply with non-existant standards, or what? I don't get it.
So you make it a requirement for plugin makes to include source code with their plugin... if it is some top secret technology that the source code can't be released for them screw them, it shouldnt be on the web... Or some other super intelligent programmer will come along and make their own plugin that handles that 'item' that is top-secret, and he/she will release the source code and blah blah blah.
I'm not insensitive or anything to the subject... I feel blind people or anyone with any disability is 100% equal to you and I, but this is ridiculous. Is there some software that allows blind people to surf the web and like it disagreed with AOL's html mark up, so now they are getting sued? I don't get this at all. Anyone want to explain?
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Totally irresponsible (Score:1)
by supz (supz@i.love.spam.net) on 02:36 PM -- Wednesday November 03 1999 EST (#260)
(User Info)
The guys from M.o.R.E., that made DeCSS are totally immature and irresponsible. Cracking the DVD encryption is not neccesarily the bad thing,
the bad thing is that they made this program and distributed it. That ruins DVD for everyone. Now the movie industry is going to have to retaliate
and put some alternate protection on DVD's which could even possibly require all of us to purchase new DVD players or something of the sort.
M.o.R.E. should have quietly reported the problem to the Xing and whatever the main company that handles DVD technology is and helped them
solve it, not just totally fuck them over, as well as the rest of us.
DVD technology is a really great deal: you get digital quality video and audio and a bunch of extra scenes on one small CD-sized disc, all for about
the cost of the movie on video. Why ruin a good thing? I must say that it was also stupid and irresponsible for Xing to not encrypt the key, but two
wrongs do not make a right.
Shame on MoRE.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
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Re:Totally irresponsible (Score:1)
by cr0sh on 03:22 PM -- Wednesday November 03 1999 EST (#305)
(User Info)
Actually, I think they should have waited to release the program after low-cost means of copying the resulting file became available. A very likely
outcome of this whole thing will be some kind of restrictions or something on DVD recorders (tech or price wise)...
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Depends on how you look at it. (Score:1)
by dpdx (dpdx@nospam.teleport.com) on 03:56 PM -- Wednesday November 03 1999 EST (#327)
(User Info)
M.o.R.E. should have quietly reported the problem to the Xing and whatever the main company that handles DVD technology is and
helped them solve it, not just totally fuck them over, as well as the rest of us.
Even if they'd have done that, that old, crackable system is still burned onto millions of discs, and they're all available at your friendly neighborhood
content provider, the video store. That's a lot of Disney flicks to steal.
Second, your premise assumes that MoRE should be interested in helping the nice multi-national megaconglomerates [who presumably represent
the people]. That doesn't strike me as realistic.
In fact, I'd tend to think that groups such as this exist to subvert the profit of companies they perceive as evil (not that anyone in this community
would know anything about that, based on their dealings with the Open Source Software movement). I don't gather from the article that MoRE is
setting up to become your one-stop shopping center for bootleg Meg Ryan flicks. They hacked DVD, probably (if I had to guess) mostly for it's
own sake.
Turn the argument around for a second, like this:
cDc is totally irresponsible to all of us who would use Windows because they didn't quietly alert Microsoft to the fact that it was so
#@$! easy to administer remote control to a Windows box, and now they're forcing Microsoft to release another version of Windows.
How dare they!
A security hole in windows could harm people far worse than a security hole in a DVD, so that little analogy breaks down a hole lot.
The guys from M.o.R.E., that made DeCSS are totally immature and irresponsible. Cracking the DVD encryption is not neccesarily the bad thing, the bad thing is that they made this program and distributed it. That ruins DVD for everyone. Now the movie industry is going to have to retaliate and put some alternate protection on DVD's which could even possibly require all of us to purchase new DVD players or something of the sort.
M.o.R.E. should have quietly reported the problem to the Xing and whatever the main company that handles DVD technology is and helped them solve it, not just totally fuck them over, as well as the rest of us.
DVD technology is a really great deal: you get digital quality video and audio and a bunch of extra scenes on one small CD-sized disc, all for about the cost of the movie on video. Why ruin a good thing? I must say that it was also stupid and irresponsible for Xing to not encrypt the key, but two wrongs do not make a right.
Shame on MoRE.
it does have an itsy bitsy bit of something to do w/the topic... "Hemos keeps punishing mine for no reason so I think mine is mentally stunted from having an abused childhood."
I have cheetos cheese on my mouse.
How about the web browser makes give you an option to disable cookies from certain servers, or maybe disable any connections with certain servers, or a whole bunch of server/cookie filtering that the user could play around with to make sure they aren't just another user id to some company that wants their money.
These tips sound alot like tips taken out of one of those self confidence boosting books, not geek-deterants.
Or maybe tips for the women to not look like "insecure" all around.
My favorite coding music:
Nine Inch Nails (The Fragile is excellent)
"Just like you imagined" (Track 7 on the Left CD) is a great coding song. No words to mess up your syntax. A great beat. It's got that awesome Trent-Reznor-ish get-really-quiet-then-suddenly explode thing.
This entire album is awesome, but this post would be a book if I wrote about how much every song rocked.
It's good to see an elected official is writing some legislation that puts restrictions on the government and not just the general public. Nowadays every little piece of legislation is to put restrictions on everything possible, except for the government.
So if a guy waltzes into a store and grabs a couple of items, walks out and didn't know he had to pay, that doesn't qualify as stealing?
The law doesn't show mercy for ignorance... just a little bit of leniancy.
If I send an MP3 to someone under the assumption (which may well have been stated on his page, although I honestly don't know) that they already own the CD, and they happen not to, does that qualify?
In that case they might lessen the charge slightly, just because you didn't know... If you could get the charges dropped by saying you didn't know something, then we would have alot of criminals out on the street 'not knowing' what they are doing.
I'm not sure it's autism. Maybe it's just because he's Bill Gates. I'd have trouble making eye-contact with people, too.
n e-of-his-victims-in-the-eye effect, but in this case it's the evil-unstable-os-building-fiend-trying-to-look-a-p issed-off-user-in-the-eye effect.
Yah, it's sort of the convicted-murderer-trying-to-look-the-mother-of-o
Of course I had no idea what the username or password would be, I wonder if it's some sort of backdoor for Sega?
I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't store any personal documents on my game system (I don't even think I could), so Sega can have all the backdoors they want on my dreamcast (not that I even own one, yet).
It is interesting however. Maybe they could use it to check for illegally bootlegged games (If the games come on CD, I'm pretty uneducated on the subject).
All of these evil, ruthless, unfair moderators need to be murdered. How was this post a troll? It had everything to do with the topic, and content posted within it. I think the problem is that these moderators would rather - comments rather than +'ing them.
I really hate karma, only because mine is negative, but otherwise I think it's a really cool idea. It's only slightly unfair, for me, because I posted a couple of comments that were moderated +1, a while back, and they weren't factored into my karma, therefore leaving mine negative. So the solution here is for the moderators to moderate this comment to +6 so I can feel like I am among the socially elite among /. readers.
Go to church.
I can tell you firsthand that C++ is just too difficult for first-year CS students in high school
I really have to disagree with that. I took Pascal my first year in high school, which is a Junior course in my HS, and I took C++ sophomore year, a senior course. I had absolutely no problems learning either. I don't know much [anything] about Python so I'm not going to talk trash about it, but I think that C++, even though it's hard, should be one of the first languages anyone learns, because it demands that your programming be organized, indented, and aesthetically pleasing. I know a whole bunch of programming languages and C++ has got to be my favorite.
If you really do care the least bit, rather then trying to play the "I am smarter than group x!" game, you could spen maybe 2 hours of your
life reading up on it a bit. Understanding the world and people in it is actually a good thing.
Yah, but I find blind hatred so much more rewarding than being nice and understanding. Where would this world be without hate? No guns, no holocaust, no denial of service attacks. Hate makes the world go round.
Plus veg[etari]ans suck at driving, and don't know the different between the fast lane and the slow lane... and lanes all together.
Kill 'em all!
A vegan won't eat ANY animal products
A vegetarian just won't eat animal meat (i think)
So therefore, a vegan is a bigger moron than a vegetarian.
See, and that is exactly why you get a PC and not a Mac.
:::laughing at all the mac users:::
The hooks have to be specifically for cryptography in order to be illegal. People get around this by providing general "module"
interfaces which can be used for lots of things.... including crypto. Making it crypto specific is a no-no, as far as I know.
Having said this, there are some well-known exceptions: microsoft's crypto apis and sun's java library apis, for example. I don't
know if they got a specific license from the gov't, or if the law was loosened. I rather suspect they got a license.
maybe this is why they got whatever license this guy is talking about.
What do you have against us white folk? We're good people.
I think denying citizens the right to privacy is treason and I'm sure there is real evidence of corruption involved.
I was so moved that I had to post this short message and say that I agree 100%.