I remember showing that article to some friends of mine, people who were deeply involved with government work. They laughed at me and called me paranoid and gullible. Sure sucks when the tinfoil-hat crowd is right.
The only little problem with that is that krivda.ru and the likes are even more tightly controlled by the Russian government and will present whatever information they have in an even more slanted way, probably as a part of a plan to harm you.
And that's different from the far-left government-lapdog U.S. press how, exactly?
It seems a much better idea would be for y'all to get a grip on your government and make it better instead of relying on bunch of foreign crooks to do it for you.
On the other hand, the U.S. didn't win the Revolutionary War all by itself. France helped a lot.
I won't even touch the many Russian conspiracy theories that explain how Putin (whose children live in the West and whose personal money holdings are also in Western banks) is actually on a leash, probably tightly held by the US government;)
That's just what they WANT you to believe...(cue "dramatic look chipmunk")
No? Well, then, let's get a move on! We need to whip some religion on the natives and force them to pray to our god!
And you actually wonder why we have no proof of intelligent life from other planets. If you were in their place...would you come anywhere near this debacle?
The federal government is still spending far more than it's taking in, and seems to have little to show for it.
We're not even borrowing the money any more; the Federal Reserve just changes a number in a computer to create more money, then lends it to the U.S. government at near-zero interest.
This is a shell game of the highest magnitude, and all historical precedents point to this ending badly.
Federal spending has to be brought under control. It appears there's no will in our so-called leaders to do so. A shutdown and default, despite the chaos it would lead to, would have stopped the out-of-control spending. I would like to think there's another way to get federal spending under control, but I'm not that gullible.
This was a chance to stop the hemorrhaging. This chance is gone. The problem will only get worse.
And if you think there's something special about the United States that'll keep it from collapsing like so many other empires in history...I hope you're right. But I'm still constructing my compound on raw land in the middle of nowhere.
Not even close. America would do just fine without the vast majority of the federal government. The biggest losers would be welfare parasites, and I don't care about them anyway.
Steve and Mark are camping when a bear suddenly comes out and growls. Steve starts putting on his tennis shoes.
Mark says, “What are you doing? You can’t outrun a bear!”
Steve says, “I don’t have to outrun the bear—I just have to outrun you!”
When the government chooses to conduct its affairs with such ruthless disregard for its citizens, I'm glad it's shut down, and I hope it defaults on its debt. Nothing else is going to stop these abuses.
Apparently, the percentage of people that advocate a debt default is up to 10 to 20 percent. That's a lot of support for something widely perceived as drastic and destructive.
What you are describing has all the markings of the cover story the CIA might develop for a mole.
Snowden might be the creation of the CIA whose objective might have been to destroy the NSA's credibility before that agency gained too much power and became a direct threat to CIA activities.
Snowden found it so easy to evade and escape that I kind of wonder whether he has had some help from somebody in Washington.
Oh, please. You're assuming FAR too much competence inside our "intelligence" agencies.
Here is a wonderful article about the historic serial incompetence of Britain's intelligence agencies. I assure you, U.S. intelligence agencies aren't any better.
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Good point. WOW! Proof of extraterrestrials!
Wow, all you had in response was not one, but two, ad-hominem attacks.
Face it...you lost the argument.
Why, too lazy to look it up yourself?
Here's one: NSA whistleblowers: Government spying on every single American
A full year before Edward Snowden.
I remember showing that article to some friends of mine, people who were deeply involved with government work. They laughed at me and called me paranoid and gullible. Sure sucks when the tinfoil-hat crowd is right.
First the government abused foreigners, and the press did nothing.
Then the government started abusing its own citizens, and the press did nothing.
Then the government started abusing the press...
The only little problem with that is that krivda.ru and the likes are even more tightly controlled by the Russian government and will present whatever information they have in an even more slanted way, probably as a part of a plan to harm you.
And that's different from the far-left government-lapdog U.S. press how, exactly?
It seems a much better idea would be for y'all to get a grip on your government and make it better instead of relying on bunch of foreign crooks to do it for you.
On the other hand, the U.S. didn't win the Revolutionary War all by itself. France helped a lot.
I won't even touch the many Russian conspiracy theories that explain how Putin (whose children live in the West and whose personal money holdings are also in Western banks) is actually on a leash, probably tightly held by the US government ;)
That's just what they WANT you to believe...(cue "dramatic look chipmunk")
Canada may simply be a healthier environment to live in. Perhaps its less crowding, less pollution, healthier lifestyles, etc?
Or because meat doesn't spoil as fast when it's kept frozen.
I'll grant that...the developer is a magnificent bastard.
Can't people on the internet converse like civilized human beings?
You must be new here.
How is ObamaCare like a turd?
You have to pass it to find out what's in it.
I remember reading about these NSA revelations years before Edward Snowden disclosed them...on the Russian Times web site.
Guess we'll have to go back to relying on the Russian press to defend freedom and print the truth.
Ugh...I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Let's face it...if you put the government in charge of the desert, in five years there would be a shortage of sand.
"How would you like to wake up one morning and find your credit rating slashed?"
Seriously...this guy is gonna get hAx0r3d something bad for that bit of mouthing off.
Citations and fines for traffic infractions are supposed to discourage bad driving, not raise money for the gov't.
You must be new here.
I drive at the posted speed limit on interstates. And no, I don't find myself passed left and right all the time.
You obviously don't live within two hundred miles of Los Angeles.
No? Well, then, let's get a move on! We need to whip some religion on the natives and force them to pray to our god!
And you actually wonder why we have no proof of intelligent life from other planets. If you were in their place...would you come anywhere near this debacle?
The federal government is still spending far more than it's taking in, and seems to have little to show for it.
We're not even borrowing the money any more; the Federal Reserve just changes a number in a computer to create more money, then lends it to the U.S. government at near-zero interest.
This is a shell game of the highest magnitude, and all historical precedents point to this ending badly.
Federal spending has to be brought under control. It appears there's no will in our so-called leaders to do so. A shutdown and default, despite the chaos it would lead to, would have stopped the out-of-control spending. I would like to think there's another way to get federal spending under control, but I'm not that gullible.
This was a chance to stop the hemorrhaging. This chance is gone. The problem will only get worse.
And if you think there's something special about the United States that'll keep it from collapsing like so many other empires in history...I hope you're right. But I'm still constructing my compound on raw land in the middle of nowhere.
And hello ruin!
Not even close. America would do just fine without the vast majority of the federal government. The biggest losers would be welfare parasites, and I don't care about them anyway.
We voted in enough Tea Party congresspeople to shut down the government and cause a debt default. Goodbye, surveillance state.
Perhaps I'm speaking on deep background.
That reminds me of the old joke...
Steve and Mark are camping when a bear suddenly comes out and growls. Steve starts putting on his tennis shoes.
Mark says, “What are you doing? You can’t outrun a bear!”
Steve says, “I don’t have to outrun the bear—I just have to outrun you!”
All we need is a constitutional amendment that whatever the government does to the people, the people can do to the government.
I think that was the implicit point of the 2nd amendment.
We could call it ARCFUELFAN! It would be positively electric!
When the government chooses to conduct its affairs with such ruthless disregard for its citizens, I'm glad it's shut down, and I hope it defaults on its debt. Nothing else is going to stop these abuses.
Apparently, the percentage of people that advocate a debt default is up to 10 to 20 percent. That's a lot of support for something widely perceived as drastic and destructive.
The fact that the fine for not buying a product is paid to the IRS does not make the fine into a tax.
The Supreme Court disagrees with you.
What you are describing has all the markings of the cover story the CIA might develop for a mole.
Snowden might be the creation of the CIA whose objective might have been to destroy the NSA's credibility before that agency gained too much power and became a direct threat to CIA activities.
Snowden found it so easy to evade and escape that I kind of wonder whether he has had some help from somebody in Washington.
Oh, please. You're assuming FAR too much competence inside our "intelligence" agencies. Here is a wonderful article about the historic serial incompetence of Britain's intelligence agencies. I assure you, U.S. intelligence agencies aren't any better.