Their leading lights have been saying for years that genetic algorithms don't "really" work.
I am not a creationist, but isn't it a little dangerous to the validity of your arguement for you to be the one defining who their 'leading lights' are?
It's a big complex world out there, and it's a terrible mistake to battle against your own spun-up parody of an opponent instead of the real thing.
Sorry, but a physical disc is not a license. Does anyone here know what types of things can actually be licensed?
You're definitely correct. And Microsoft agrees with you. Last year I decided to sell my copy of Office 2000 on eBay. It is a retail-box version, which is not tied by an OEM license to any hardware.
Unfortunately, I have misplaced a few bits and pieces of the box it came in. I was ordered by the eBay authorities to delist my copy of Office. Owning the CD, with the jewel box, the CD Key, even the user's manual, does not 'license' me to that copy of Office.
Or you can get a piano or a guitar and learn to play it. Get together with friends in the evening and on weekends. You can call the gatherings 'jam sessions' and form 'bands' if you like how it works out.
The other nice thing about owning the CD is that you've got something twenty years later.
I have many, many LP albums that are greater than 20 years old. I have a bunch of CDs that are older, too. (the CD media itself might die, of course).
The people with bits spattered all over hard drives and CDR disks in various formats don't have anything that maintains 'collector value' nor anything that anybody will want to bother sifting through in twenty years.
But we live in a 'short attention span' era- buying an album from an artist whose earlier work you liked used to be a committment. There have been countless times when I didn't like a particular album until I'd listened to it two or three times, then it became indispensable music I enjoyed a LOT. That 'stretch the listener's range' phenomenon withers away in a world of single 'tracks' of music.
The hell with that. I have a full size AT-footprint 80386 motherboard. Still looking for a full-AT case for it, however. Hopefully one that I can fit three full-height 5-1/4" hard drives into.
It'll make a nice X Terminal, attached to a 9" point-of-sale VGA monitor.
There are 'security thorugh obscurity' plusses in running Linux on a non-x86 platform. The script kiddies are expecting the Linux boxes to be Intel. Any RISCy platform running Linux is that much less likely to be cracked.
I still have Windows 95 on floppy diskettes. There are 29 disks. Somewhat fewer on the 'feature stripped' 5-1/4" release (which I also have). Even further OT: The 5-1/4" version of Windows 95 does not ask for or require a 'CD Key' to install, nor does it fingerprint the install media. If you want to create a 'third world, free, untracable' version of Windows 95, copy all the 5-1/4" diskettes into a single directory and burn to a CD. It's about 30 megs.
Windows 98 on floppy disks also exists (3" media only). That comes on one HECK of a lot of disks. When I sent in the coupon to get that (I'm just that kinda guy, I guess) Microsoft accidentally sent me two copies for my $10 'media fee.'
Oh, and to REALLY reach back: The 'one diskette DOS' that I am talking about, which Windows 3.x installs on quite adequately, is PC-DOS 3.3 which came complete on a single 720K 3-1/2" disk. (PC-DOS 1.0 is on a single 5-1/4" 160K diskette- I have that too.)
So the effect is the same as being able to uninstall WMP, which is what I've been hoping to do for a long time.
Who are you kidding? You think that the downloadable version of WMP that they provide for users of this version of XP will include a clean uninstaller??
The people in Europe who do buy the 'media playerless' version will likely download Windows Media Player and install it anyway.
I am a fan (well, a user, anyway) of older versions of Windows, as I'll never, ever, install XP or any of the 'phone home to register' versions that follow it. I always wince when I install a 'newer than default' version of WMP on the system. But, then, I know better than the average user.
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All you have to remember is that DOS and Windows 3.11 came distributed on seven (6 windows, 1 DOS) 3-1/2" HD diskettes to recognize the BLOAT that has happened since then. (okay, an additional floppy you had to download to get the TCP/IP stack)
You get onto the network from the Win9x command prompt, using one of the 'loopback' Linux distributions. Is 'loopback Linux' or 'DOS Linux' still in existence? The Linux filesystem resides inside a big file that sits on one of the Windows/DOS drives and is mounted as root using a loopback filesystem.
Also, once you are on the Win9x system without net access, you grab the *.pwl files out of the \Windows directory for analysis.
The big question is, will this be popularly renamed 'Windows XP WTF Edition' (WTF=what the fuck) by the regular users who it is foisted onto? Most average users aren't frantic about preventing Microsoft from preinstalling a Media Player.
Zealots: the ball is in your court now to convince 'regular folks' that this is a good thing.
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Fine. I initially wasn't aware this was a table decoration discussion.
I thought it was about Apples first real 'low cost' Macintosh.
Don't project your feelings of inferiority. I'm sorry that what I said makes you feel that way.
I wasn't speaking just for or of myself.
Their leading lights have been saying for years that genetic algorithms don't "really" work.
I am not a creationist, but isn't it a little dangerous to the validity of your arguement for you to be the one defining who their 'leading lights' are?
It's a big complex world out there, and it's a terrible mistake to battle against your own spun-up parody of an opponent instead of the real thing.
Sorry, but a physical disc is not a license. Does anyone here know what types of things can actually be licensed?
You're definitely correct. And Microsoft agrees with you. Last year I decided to sell my copy of Office 2000 on eBay. It is a retail-box version, which is not tied by an OEM license to any hardware.
Unfortunately, I have misplaced a few bits and pieces of the box it came in. I was ordered by the eBay authorities to delist my copy of Office. Owning the CD, with the jewel box, the CD Key, even the user's manual, does not 'license' me to that copy of Office.
I said the equivalent PC meaning an entry level PC of equivalent performance. I said nothing about the equivalent table decoration.
Or you can get a piano or a guitar and learn to play it. Get together with friends in the evening and on weekends. You can call the gatherings 'jam sessions' and form 'bands' if you like how it works out.
Gee, what a novel idea.
The other nice thing about owning the CD is that you've got something twenty years later.
I have many, many LP albums that are greater than 20 years old. I have a bunch of CDs that are older, too. (the CD media itself might die, of course).
The people with bits spattered all over hard drives and CDR disks in various formats don't have anything that maintains 'collector value' nor anything that anybody will want to bother sifting through in twenty years.
But we live in a 'short attention span' era- buying an album from an artist whose earlier work you liked used to be a committment. There have been countless times when I didn't like a particular album until I'd listened to it two or three times, then it became indispensable music I enjoyed a LOT. That 'stretch the listener's range' phenomenon withers away in a world of single 'tracks' of music.
Is it closed hardware from Apple?
Surely not!??!
Because you haven't found a binary Mozilla package to install on it, and it takes longer than 180 days to build Mozilla from source on a Sparc?
The hell with that. I have a full size AT-footprint 80386 motherboard. Still looking for a full-AT case for it, however. Hopefully one that I can fit three full-height 5-1/4" hard drives into.
It'll make a nice X Terminal, attached to a 9" point-of-sale VGA monitor.
We live in a strange time, with cheap Macs (mini)
Of course, the equivalent PC is only $200 at Walmart. And it includes the keyboard and mouse at that price (Mac Mini doesn't).
There are 'security thorugh obscurity' plusses in running Linux on a non-x86 platform. The script kiddies are expecting the Linux boxes to be Intel. Any RISCy platform running Linux is that much less likely to be cracked.
I still have Windows 95 on floppy diskettes. There are 29 disks. Somewhat fewer on the 'feature stripped' 5-1/4" release (which I also have). Even further OT: The 5-1/4" version of Windows 95 does not ask for or require a 'CD Key' to install, nor does it fingerprint the install media. If you want to create a 'third world, free, untracable' version of Windows 95, copy all the 5-1/4" diskettes into a single directory and burn to a CD. It's about 30 megs.
Windows 98 on floppy disks also exists (3" media only). That comes on one HECK of a lot of disks. When I sent in the coupon to get that (I'm just that kinda guy, I guess) Microsoft accidentally sent me two copies for my $10 'media fee.'
Oh, and to REALLY reach back: The 'one diskette DOS' that I am talking about, which Windows 3.x installs on quite adequately, is PC-DOS 3.3 which came complete on a single 720K 3-1/2" disk. (PC-DOS 1.0 is on a single 5-1/4" 160K diskette- I have that too.)
I would buy a $25 or $50 copy of Windows 98 SE if some other company was selling and supporting it though.
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So the effect is the same as being able to uninstall WMP, which is what I've been hoping to do for a long time.
Who are you kidding? You think that the downloadable version of WMP that they provide for users of this version of XP will include a clean uninstaller??
The people in Europe who do buy the 'media playerless' version will likely download Windows Media Player and install it anyway.
I am a fan (well, a user, anyway) of older versions of Windows, as I'll never, ever, install XP or any of the 'phone home to register' versions that follow it. I always wince when I install a 'newer than default' version of WMP on the system. But, then, I know better than the average user.
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All you have to remember is that DOS and Windows 3.11 came distributed on seven (6 windows, 1 DOS) 3-1/2" HD diskettes to recognize the BLOAT that has happened since then. (okay, an additional floppy you had to download to get the TCP/IP stack)
You get onto the network from the Win9x command prompt, using one of the 'loopback' Linux distributions. Is 'loopback Linux' or 'DOS Linux' still in existence? The Linux filesystem resides inside a big file that sits on one of the Windows/DOS drives and is mounted as root using a loopback filesystem.
Also, once you are on the Win9x system without net access, you grab the *.pwl files out of the \Windows directory for analysis.
The big question is, will this be popularly renamed 'Windows XP WTF Edition' (WTF=what the fuck) by the regular users who it is foisted onto? Most average users aren't frantic about preventing Microsoft from preinstalling a Media Player.
Zealots: the ball is in your court now to convince 'regular folks' that this is a good thing.
You only need one 'character' to bypass the password in Win9x. You click 'cancel' on the dialogue and it lets you through.
I'm surprised there isn't already a 'wifi-connected webcam' link for us to all click.
Did you just cut and paste that all off a fanboy site?
I thought all the 'It is IBM/M$ vs. Apple' people had died and gone away.
Google venona.
It wasn't a 'pair of witches.' It was a whole bunch of people.
. . . didn't shove the missing disks down his pants.
Yuk. Does anybody even want back that stuff Sandy Berger stole?
With the end of the Soviet Union, many formerly 'secret records' in the Kremlin Archive from the McCarthy era have become available for study.
There was a conspiracy within the US Government to overthrow the US and impose a Marxist government.
The Rosenbergs WERE guilty.
It's fun to play back the 'McCarthyism is bad' tape over and over, though. Enjoy.
Can I run Oracle on one of those 8 pin PIC processors?