I can spend my $10 on a 25gig account at a Usenet server provider. I end up with something (mp3 files off binary newsgroups) that has a similarly vague property right.
Now Apple will have to open up Fairplay. I figure by the time the 500 millionth song is downloaded Apple will have Fairplay licensed to others. In players or stores I know not which.
Apple has a long history of not being open, even one of 'opening up a little' then snapping shut, screwing people who bought into their openness.
The affluent market they sell to, one of upper-middle-class fickle youth, will just toss the iPod and move on, though. Like the market for the other sealed, disposable Apple hardware.
Reasonable for a cabal of astroturfers who've achived moderation status, mind you.
I say no, but say the same to Napster and iTunes.
But I have this personal prejudice against anything Apple that goes back decades. Us old-timers are like that about litigious companies who hire the best lawyers at the hint of competition.
I think I heard somewhere that when you quit paying the cable bill, they disconnect you, and that when you quit paying the rent, the landlord evicts you if you don't leave voluntarily.
Check out how much money they are making selling $500 machines.
They are not selling $500 machines.
They are selling a bare CPU box in it's minimum configuration for $500. You have to add in, at minimum, a keyboard, mouse, and monitor.
As an experiment, I built up a fairly minimal 'bundle' system based on the Mac Mini. My shopping cart price was $995, and all I was buying was the CPU box, keyboard, mouse, and a plain 17" monitor.
I've downloaded and installed Darwin. On both Apple and x86 hardware.
What I object to is somebody referring to MacOS as "somebody charging money for a 'distro'."
Utter nonsense. It's just another commercial OS, and not even one that's free like Solaris. I wouldn't mind trying it on my Beige G3s. Damned if I'm going to spend three or four times as much as I did for the Beige G3 to do so.
Yes, it was a joke until it was taken over by NeXT. Apple, however, is still filled with the jokesters who spent hundreds of millions fumbling around on their 'Next Generation Operating Systen' which always featured a cute codename, before giving up and being taken over by NeXT.
Now Apple is just an expensive proprietary box and software maker. I'd rather buy a Sun, if I was going to spend the money, but I'll just not spend the money, instead.
IBM hasn't been 'the evile' since the mid 70's, though they've not always been a 'nice' company since then.
you can easily install a wide range of software from your Linux distributer, and users do not need to install malware-ridden crap software of random websites.
Wow, that's one hell of a 'hive' mentality you've got going there.
Believe me, there aren't as many people who want to be totally dependent on a single source for all their applications as you might think.
This is the new, revised Slashdot. I remember the one back in the day that was oriented toward hackers and tech freaks. Before the oh-so-fash Apple Store plastic-flashers stacked the audience.
Macintosh was a running joke in these parts, until Apple was taken over by NeXT.
People like you are really tearing down the meaning of terms like 'free' and 'distro' the way we used to think of it.
And while I don't use Linux much anymore, personally, I still find it sad that Apple and a few other corporate interests seem to have had such an easy time stealing the terminology and the mindshare.
Do you have a URL to the link where I can download the source code for the MacOS GUI? Because some of us are thinking of porting it to NetBSD, but can't find the source tarball.
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The point he made was: nobody can make an iPod compatible.
People who buy from iTunes trap themselves onto a single brand of player.
If anybody else did this there would be far louder screaming.
I can spend my $10 on a 25gig account at a Usenet server provider. I end up with something (mp3 files off binary newsgroups) that has a similarly vague property right.
Now Apple will have to open up Fairplay. I figure by the time the 500 millionth song is downloaded Apple will have Fairplay licensed to others. In players or stores I know not which.
Apple has a long history of not being open, even one of 'opening up a little' then snapping shut, screwing people who bought into their openness.
The affluent market they sell to, one of upper-middle-class fickle youth, will just toss the iPod and move on, though. Like the market for the other sealed, disposable Apple hardware.
If they already have iTunes songs, they won't be able to listen to those on Napster-compatible devices. So where's the practical reason to switch?
You're right. They are trapped in Apples proprietary web of limitations.
How and when did this become praiseworthy on Slashdot?
Has this site, and the crowd that frequents it, really changed that much?
Now, now. You'll make baby Stevie Jobs cry!
Reasonable for a cabal of astroturfers who've achived moderation status, mind you.
I say no, but say the same to Napster and iTunes.
But I have this personal prejudice against anything Apple that goes back decades. Us old-timers are like that about litigious companies who hire the best lawyers at the hint of competition.
Shit, there's a whole domain for that sort of astroturfing.
apple.slashdot.org isn't one of the original URL's, ya know.
Who would 'burn the same playlist seven times' in the first place?
You make one CD, you duplicate said CD as many times as you like.
This might not be obvious to some iPod customers, granted.
Finally, Napster clearly has a tough row to hoe in encouraging people to give up their iPods.
They can just wait for the batteries to die.
I think I heard somewhere that when you quit paying the cable bill, they disconnect you, and that when you quit paying the rent, the landlord evicts you if you don't leave voluntarily.
Check out how much money they are making selling $500 machines.
They are not selling $500 machines.
They are selling a bare CPU box in it's minimum configuration for $500. You have to add in, at minimum, a keyboard, mouse, and monitor.
As an experiment, I built up a fairly minimal 'bundle' system based on the Mac Mini. My shopping cart price was $995, and all I was buying was the CPU box, keyboard, mouse, and a plain 17" monitor.
I've downloaded and installed Darwin. On both Apple and x86 hardware.
What I object to is somebody referring to MacOS as "somebody charging money for a 'distro'."
Utter nonsense. It's just another commercial OS, and not even one that's free like Solaris. I wouldn't mind trying it on my Beige G3s. Damned if I'm going to spend three or four times as much as I did for the Beige G3 to do so.
It's no better or worse.
It's a bunch of idiots tromping all over the grass engaging in their chosen 'battle.'
Sucks if you want to do something else on the lawn.
Apple has the only useful approach?
Wait? Why are all the Slashbots packing suitcases for overnight trips to Canada?
Yes, it was a joke until it was taken over by NeXT. Apple, however, is still filled with the jokesters who spent hundreds of millions fumbling around on their 'Next Generation Operating Systen' which always featured a cute codename, before giving up and being taken over by NeXT.
Now Apple is just an expensive proprietary box and software maker. I'd rather buy a Sun, if I was going to spend the money, but I'll just not spend the money, instead.
IBM hasn't been 'the evile' since the mid 70's, though they've not always been a 'nice' company since then.
I know all of the above. I've been using Linux off and on since 1993.
./configure , make, make install.
I reject all the packaging systems mentioned above.
I prefer Slackware and source tarballs.
you can easily install a wide range of software from your Linux distributer, and users do not need to install malware-ridden crap software of random websites.
Wow, that's one hell of a 'hive' mentality you've got going there.
Believe me, there aren't as many people who want to be totally dependent on a single source for all their applications as you might think.
This is the new, revised Slashdot. I remember the one back in the day that was oriented toward hackers and tech freaks. Before the oh-so-fash Apple Store plastic-flashers stacked the audience.
Macintosh was a running joke in these parts, until Apple was taken over by NeXT.
Apple Retail stores are great, and there's nothing like them for Windows.
And if there WERE, people like you would be peeing your britches in fury at the GALL of the evile MONOPOLY activity.
you can even get Debian GNU/NetBSD.
Why would one want to pile all that crap on top of what was a nice clean kernel/userland?
People like you are really tearing down the meaning of terms like 'free' and 'distro' the way we used to think of it.
And while I don't use Linux much anymore, personally, I still find it sad that Apple and a few other corporate interests seem to have had such an easy time stealing the terminology and the mindshare.
OS X is based on free software
Do you have a URL to the link where I can download the source code for the MacOS GUI? Because some of us are thinking of porting it to NetBSD, but can't find the source tarball.
With an attitude like yours, the whole apple.slashdot.org domain would have to disappear.
Or are some Astroturfers good and others evil?
The book had good wanking sections. I remember reading it in the seventies.
Really, that's all that's necessary to make a bestseller.