Look at the services list under XP, Vista, and Windows 7. Look at how many are running all the time. Do you know if all of the running services are actually needed, based on what you run and do with your computer? Hell, even things like Remote Registry may be turned on, and for no good reason. So, if Windows 8 has a focus to cut down on things running that are not actually needed at that time, it is a big improvement.
Uh, if that's the case, they could have just given everyone Windows For Legacy PCs which is XP stripped of services.
And I believe it came out 6 years ago. I have a copy.
My personal experince is that Windows is fragile during updates. YMMV, but I have learned the hard way not to fuck with Windows updating itself or shutting it off while it's doing something "important." Many other people have been conditioned over the years by the exact same things.
I don't care if you say the beach is safe to surf, Kilgore. I don't trust you and nor do I trust Windows.
>Comparing Windows and Linux updates
There is no comparison. Package managers for Linux are quite robust and will pick up exactly where you left off if you so much as hit control-C and then restart. Powering down in the middle would likely fuck/something/ temporarily, but unless you're doing a kernel update, there is likely no reason for a machine to be unbootable. And even then there are the backup kernels you can pick on boot from the handy-dandy boot screen.
>Losing power during write, forcing a fsck >taking a long time
I haven't had a fsck take longer than a minute since I went to a journaling file system last century, and journaling file systems on Linux are standard issue now. I also noticed when I did an install of Ubuntu 11.10 that btrfs is available. This is spectacular, but I'm sticking with ext4 for now because it's thoroughly debugged and I can trust it.
Sorry to break it to you, shill, but you're full of hot air and you need a tic-tac.
What burns my shorts these days is not the Windows reboot.
It's the automatic updates that only get applied at the end. "PLEASE PLEASE OH PLEASE DON'T TURN ME OFF BECAUSE I WILL FUCK YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU TURN ME OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF UPDATES"
Because the entire point of 8 is to use the new interface. If i set the registry to give me the traditional desktop, then fucking around with 8 is pointless, isn't it?
>What are you using the Metro interface for? The only part of it I see is the Start menu
You've not used Internet Explorer 10? Metro infects that too. It also infects the Computer Settings screen (in a half assed way - when you click on "more settings, it dumps you to the old Desktop) and other things.
...you boot the bastard on a desktop machine, and then it goes to that horrid Metro screen which makes navigating with a mouse and keyboard painful? It may be fine for touch, but without touch, man....it makes you want to break things.
Then you talk to a Microsoft turfer, as seen on here and other places, they will bald-faced lie to you and say "well, it's not finished yet, who knows what it will be like?"
Then you go to the Microsoft fora and ask Microsoft employees about Metro as being standard for the upcoming desktop, they double-down on it.
Guys, get your friggin' stories straight. All I know for sure is that Metro without touch is a steaming load of bovine excrement backlit by the morning sun so you can see the vapors wafting off it. Fix it.
How the/fuck/ do they verify that your nom is your legal name? Eh? They didn't ask me for any ID or anything else.
So as far as anyone is concerned on either network, I am an Eurasian Eagle Owl, of the Siberian subspecies.
Farcebook wouldn't take Boyle M. Owl, my "normal" alias, but it took that.
They only go after the "offensively fake" or "names with non-ascii characters" (woe be unto you if you have a name from another language) or "names too close to celebrities," which the last actually nails some actual celebrities.
It's bullshit policy that is impossible to enforce fairly because they set it up wrong.
Fuck the war on anonymity. I'm keeping my aliases, thanks.
There are other alternatives to Federal spending then private spending. How about city spending? How about state spending? Why does the Federal government have to be the one doing all the spending?
Because if we left it up to Tennessee, there would be an ORNL.
Because private industry has been cutting back on R&D for the past 30 years and shipping it off to China.
And don't even ask about basic science. There's no "profit motive" in it. Corporations don't do any worthwhile basic science. Not biology, not atmospheric, geological, astronomical, or even math. It's all applied science, with the goal of getting a profit next, or better "this quarter." Basic science is too long-range to be even considered.
All you libertarians are goddamn know-nothings and penny wise/pound foolish niggards that cheered when Sarah Palin decried fruit fly research (it's really about genetics, but whatever). I do/not/ want to live in your fantasy world.
I had a long dissertation thought out, but man, this shit just boggles my mind. NOAA? Is he kidding? I'm sure all of you remember (probably not, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt) the fact that he said that "Hurr, Galveston didn't have anyone to bail them out during their hurricane" totally forgetting how many people/died/ because of no hurricane warning and forecasting.
The next time there's a hurricane coming up Galveston Bay, I want Ron Paul to be out in the middle of it. Outside. Naked.
I just stated why he's still there. If he was anyone else without that much voting shares, he would have been gone before Bill Gates left. I believe that Bill Gates left, in part, because of his idiocy.
And yes, Microsoft's lack of innovation since 2000 is directly reflected in the stock price, which has never recovered from the dot-bust.
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>If it is a laptop, your battery should last long enough to do the update
That really helps when I've got 10 percent battery left.
You softie shills are unbelievable.
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>I suggest you actually make at leat a basic attempt to verify your claims before posting them to Slashdot.
>Implying I'm lying
>Implying I haven't verified anything
Screw you.
http://ompldr.org/vYXgzcA
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This.
Boot clean media from a thumbdrive.
"Oh look, a "sekrit" partition"
*delete*
Problem, malware writer?
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Uh, if that's the case, they could have just given everyone Windows For Legacy PCs which is XP stripped of services.
And I believe it came out 6 years ago. I have a copy.
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Spoken like a true Windows shill.
My personal experince is that Windows is fragile during updates. YMMV, but I have learned the hard way not to fuck with Windows updating itself or shutting it off while it's doing something "important." Many other people have been conditioned over the years by the exact same things.
I don't care if you say the beach is safe to surf, Kilgore. I don't trust you and nor do I trust Windows.
>Comparing Windows and Linux updates
There is no comparison. Package managers for Linux are quite robust and will pick up exactly where you left off if you so much as hit control-C and then restart. Powering down in the middle would likely fuck /something/ temporarily, but unless you're doing a kernel update, there is likely no reason for a machine to be unbootable. And even then there are the backup kernels you can pick on boot from the handy-dandy boot screen.
>Losing power during write, forcing a fsck
>taking a long time
I haven't had a fsck take longer than a minute since I went to a journaling file system last century, and journaling file systems on Linux are standard issue now. I also noticed when I did an install of Ubuntu 11.10 that btrfs is available. This is spectacular, but I'm sticking with ext4 for now because it's thoroughly debugged and I can trust it.
Sorry to break it to you, shill, but you're full of hot air and you need a tic-tac.
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What burns my shorts these days is not the Windows reboot.
It's the automatic updates that only get applied at the end. "PLEASE PLEASE OH PLEASE DON'T TURN ME OFF BECAUSE I WILL FUCK YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU TURN ME OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF UPDATES"
For 20 minutes.
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>what am I using metro for?
Because the entire point of 8 is to use the new interface. If i set the registry to give me the traditional desktop, then fucking around with 8 is pointless, isn't it?
>What are you using the Metro interface for? The only part of it I see is the Start menu
You've not used Internet Explorer 10? Metro infects that too. It also infects the Computer Settings screen (in a half assed way - when you click on "more settings, it dumps you to the old Desktop) and other things.
I suggest you explore more.
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...you boot the bastard on a desktop machine, and then it goes to that horrid Metro screen which makes navigating with a mouse and keyboard painful? It may be fine for touch, but without touch, man....it makes you want to break things.
Then you talk to a Microsoft turfer, as seen on here and other places, they will bald-faced lie to you and say "well, it's not finished yet, who knows what it will be like?"
Then you go to the Microsoft fora and ask Microsoft employees about Metro as being standard for the upcoming desktop, they double-down on it.
Guys, get your friggin' stories straight. All I know for sure is that Metro without touch is a steaming load of bovine excrement backlit by the morning sun so you can see the vapors wafting off it. Fix it.
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And I have a question....
How the /fuck/ do they verify that your nom is your legal name? Eh? They didn't ask me for any ID or anything else.
So as far as anyone is concerned on either network, I am an Eurasian Eagle Owl, of the Siberian subspecies.
Farcebook wouldn't take Boyle M. Owl, my "normal" alias, but it took that.
They only go after the "offensively fake" or "names with non-ascii characters" (woe be unto you if you have a name from another language) or "names too close to celebrities," which the last actually nails some actual celebrities.
It's bullshit policy that is impossible to enforce fairly because they set it up wrong.
Fuck the war on anonymity. I'm keeping my aliases, thanks.
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Just a question
How many engineers and scientists did the Space Race inspire?
Dreams are important. Fuck you.
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It's obvious that you are a fan of rape films.
You should get that looked at before it grows into a malignancy.
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See FatLittleMonkey's post further up the thread.
You seem to forget that they were going to make small breasted porn illegal in Australia because of kiddie porn moral panic.
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Because if we left it up to Tennessee, there would be an ORNL.
You are delusional.
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Drugged sex is non-consensual sex, and thus rape.
Have a nice day.
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Point taken.
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Because private industry has been cutting back on R&D for the past 30 years and shipping it off to China.
And don't even ask about basic science. There's no "profit motive" in it. Corporations don't do any worthwhile basic science. Not biology, not atmospheric, geological, astronomical, or even math. It's all applied science, with the goal of getting a profit next, or better "this quarter." Basic science is too long-range to be even considered.
All you libertarians are goddamn know-nothings and penny wise/pound foolish niggards that cheered when Sarah Palin decried fruit fly research (it's really about genetics, but whatever). I do /not/ want to live in your fantasy world.
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is a nutjob.
I had a long dissertation thought out, but man, this shit just boggles my mind. NOAA? Is he kidding? I'm sure all of you remember (probably not, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt) the fact that he said that "Hurr, Galveston didn't have anyone to bail them out during their hurricane" totally forgetting how many people /died/ because of no hurricane warning and forecasting.
The next time there's a hurricane coming up Galveston Bay, I want Ron Paul to be out in the middle of it. Outside. Naked.
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So basically they are admitting to encouraging, participating in, and filming rape.
Good job guys.
This extortion racket you concocted isn't going to help you when you are behind bars.
It's only a matter of time.
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Italy has a habit of doing things like this.
I seem to remember some guy who made the trains run on time.
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I never said he shouldn't be fired.
I just stated why he's still there. If he was anyone else without that much voting shares, he would have been gone before Bill Gates left. I believe that Bill Gates left, in part, because of his idiocy.
And yes, Microsoft's lack of innovation since 2000 is directly reflected in the stock price, which has never recovered from the dot-bust.
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Onanistic Orangutan
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I stand corrected
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Wow, wrong thread.
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I stand corrected.
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You know what's frightening?
Many people would actually believe you.
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