This is why that every CEO that deliberately drives a company into the ground should be tied up and shot by the workers. Because he deserves it. Golden parachutes are worthless if you can't spend it. Maybe that will put some incentive into running a company correctly. Because as it is, there is no incentive.
Then you will realize why you are going to be fucked over in your old age, when that tidy nest egg that you've built is stolen by thieves.
Because that's where we're headed. The individual investor is the chump. And it doesn't matter how educated you are on the market, those on the inside always know more than you and have more pull.
Seriously, you are 12 years old and living at home.
You speak as if Linux is a monolithic company. They even speak in tones that personify Linux. "If linux wants..."
Linux doesn't want to do anything. It's a fucking kernel.
"Do your marketing better"
No, U.
As a user, I don't really give two shits whether Linux is marketed or not. It does what I want it to do. I'm not a fucking marketer, I am an end user who contributes bug reports now and then.
It's funny how Softies come and say that "Linux must suck because it only has x percent of the market" and then with facts that the market it has trouble in is the desktop market, suddenly it's the fault of people like me for not marketing it.
Let's look at the companies that sell linux:
Redhat Novell Canonical IBM
That's it. With the exception of IBM, the other two are small potatoes and can be outspent in a day by Apple or Microsoft compared to what they spend all year marketing Linux. That's not the fault of the companies, the developers or users. That's just hard economics.
Linux must do "x" to be popular. No, Linux is popular on plenty of platforms, and the only platform left to "conquer" is the desktop. You yourself will probably move to Linux (Android) because for now Microsoft has come out and said they are ignoring the mobile computing market. God knows why. It's the only market with serious growth potential. The desktop market is already saturated with their software and thus their growth is limited by the overall desktop market growth.
Newsflash: While you've ignored Linux, it's conquered everything but the desktop and the desktop is morphing into mobile computing for nearly everything, where Linux already has a gigantic foothold.
They don't necessarily have the GNU userland, but then iOS doesn't necessarily have all of the BSD userland either.
His citing of Net Applications is suspect, because Net Applications has consistently, over the years, undercounted Linux in everything. And no, that's not because I'm wearing tinfoil, it's because everyone else on the planet reports higher numbers.
Popularity is a measurement of marketing. Nothing more. It's not related to quality, because there are plenty of McDonalds' out there and a lot fewer Capital Grilles for hamburgers.
The money for marketing Desktop Linux compared to Windows or OSX, is near zero, so this would bear out the *reported* desktop statistics.
>Surfing the web from a mobile device can be clumsy and expensive.
What is this. People friggin' do this all the time. They've been doing it for years now. What are you even trying to say here?
>Net Applications
Yeah, Net Applications can be dismissed out of hand.
Nielsen has been counting people since before you were born, bright boy. Plus they're not beholden to Microsoft like Net Applications is.
If you're just trolling, then you should be marked troll. If you're not marked trolling, well, I guess Slashdot doesn't have a moderation "-1 waste of oxygen"
I would rather that they fix the problem than have the flight on time anyway due to managerial intransigence and bloody-minded thinking that led to launching in freezing weather and "it's just foam, how bad can it be?"
And those people couldn't install Windows on their own no matter how hard they tried.
I had an experience that was just infuriating because the person who wanted Linux was as sharp as burlap bag fulla wet mice. I initially didn't even want to give him an install disk because "you don't even know what you're asking" and after which he conned someone else at work to come over his house and install it, he managed to get on Yahoo Instant Messenger (I guess he found Pidgin on his own) and berate me for breaking his computer. I fucking lost it.
I yelled at him and I told him he was a dunce and he no longer speaks to me and I consider this a vast improvement over the previous condition.
Ordinary people with 100 IQs can use Linux with no problems. It's the ones that go through life with a "learning is hard" chip on their shoulder shouldn't even have computers.
The funny thing is, these same people think nothing of using a smartphone or tablet that is utterly foreign in operation to a desktop PC running Windows. Don't fucking ask me why.
That is just pants-on-head retarded tinfoil-hat wearing paranoia.
Everything in SELinux is available for scrutiny should you friggin bother to look. It's not closed code. It's not even obfuscated.
Part of the NSA's/job/ is computer network security. Contributing to SELinux is to be expected for such an agency, especially since Linux is used extensively in national laboratories like Lawrence Livermore, ORNL and at companies like Mitre Corp.
Ah yes, the 15 year old argument that Linux is too difficult to use for the ordinary home user, who surfs the net, does his checkbook, writes papers for school, and other generic tasks that can be done on a Linux platform without any arcane pounding on the keyboard at a command prompt.
Let me tell you about Uncle Joe. Uncle Joe is a guy from the Old Country (TM). Specifically, Madiera. He's a machinist and a damn good one at that. His education stopped at the 8'th grade, as it did in Madiera. He was curious about Linux so I installed it for him. His wife's computer was untouched.
His reaction? "I don't see why it's supposedly so hard, it's just like Windows"
That was 4 years ago. He has yet to go back.
His experience is so trouble free, he bought a new machine and told the salesman "No, I don't need to upgrade Windows to Ultimate, I'm going to install Linux" - which he did without my help. I would say that the Uncle Joe Experiment was a resounding success.
The only thing that is still difficult on Linux is running Windows games. But then that argument means that Windows is just a gaming OS and I don't think you want to go there.
Water toxicity is an actual threat. People have died because they thought water is completely harmless when ingested in huge amounts, that you'll simply pee away the excess. You do pee away excess water, but the kidneys act only just so fast - 1 litre per hour for healthy kidneys.
Just so you know, unless you specifically buy the non-flammable fix-a-flat, you have filled your tire with a fire/explosion hazard. You are supposed to tell your mechanic that you used a fix-a-flat can so he can purge the tire with air a few times before unmounting the tire.
I've always been diligent about this after a friend/mechanic yelled at me for not telling him.
>He's never had to change a tire in his life where he didn't have washing facilities. Or even change a tire from the looks of the message.
I don't know about you, but when I have to change a tire, it's never in a convenient place where I can wash up. It's always out in the middle of nowhere.
Couple this with the incredible number of times we all touch our faces per hour unconsciously, and yep, you've got a vector.
>Sorry, if you're going to take my money away from me, I'm going to demand a better rationale than "That's awesome."
Name a pet project that you like (including defense spending) and I'll come up with the same argument you just did.
If your argument consists of "you're taking my money for what I don't like" then I suggest you go back to Somalia where there aren't any taxes - or services.
It sure is copyrightable in some circumstances (lists of facts, like a database isn't). It fucking belongs to *you* you fucking retard. If you run software that creates a piece of art, that art is *yours* and the copyright belongs to *you.* The output of a word processor is certainly copyrightable. It belongs to *you* if it is original content.
Copyright law goes like this:
Copyright automatically belongs to the creator. Nobody else. Not society, not your mom, not the publishers. It belongs to you. It can be assigned to someone else or it may be licensed. That is what the sentence you are talking about is referring to. It must be done in fucking writing, too, not verbally. Assigning copyright must be done on paper. Licensing can be by agreement which is what the GPL is.
When you receive software written by someone else you agree to abide by their license. No matter what the license is. Because if there was no license at all, you would not even have the right to install the software in the first place. (many anti-gpl people somehow think that if the GPL suddenly disappeared that all that code would become public domain. They are wrong because the law does not say that)
I feel like I'm talking to bloody Dan Wallace here.
And for you to say that the output of a program is a derivative work means you don't understand the word "derivative" at all.
And this bullshit about "natural law" means you're a nutcase. I suppose you're one of those "sovereign persons"
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This is why that every CEO that deliberately drives a company into the ground should be tied up and shot by the workers. Because he deserves it. Golden parachutes are worthless if you can't spend it. Maybe that will put some incentive into running a company correctly. Because as it is, there is no incentive.
Seriously.
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Then you will realize why you are going to be fucked over in your old age, when that tidy nest egg that you've built is stolen by thieves.
Because that's where we're headed. The individual investor is the chump. And it doesn't matter how educated you are on the market, those on the inside always know more than you and have more pull.
Seriously, you are 12 years old and living at home.
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Some day you will become old.
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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512587.aspx
>>You can't clean a compromised system by patching it.
>>You can't clean a compromised system by removing the back doors.
>>You can't clean a compromised system by using some "vulnerability remover."
>>You can't clean a compromised system by using a virus scanner.
>>You can't clean a compromised system by reinstalling the operating system over the existing installation.
>>You can't trust any data copied from a compromised system.
>>You can't trust the event logs on a compromised system.
>>You may not be able to trust your latest backup.
>>>>>The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild.
Jesper M. Johansson, Ph.D. [YES, HE'S A DOCTOR], CISSP, MCSE, MCP+I
Security Program Manager
Microsoft Corporation
Gah, I dropped words all over the place
Sentence structure sucks.
Time to stop keyboarding.
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You speak as if Linux is a monolithic company. They even speak in tones that personify Linux. "If linux wants..."
Linux doesn't want to do anything. It's a fucking kernel.
"Do your marketing better"
No, U.
As a user, I don't really give two shits whether Linux is marketed or not. It does what I want it to do. I'm not a fucking marketer, I am an end user who contributes bug reports now and then.
It's funny how Softies come and say that "Linux must suck because it only has x percent of the market" and then with facts that the market it has trouble in is the desktop market, suddenly it's the fault of people like me for not marketing it.
Let's look at the companies that sell linux:
Redhat
Novell
Canonical
IBM
That's it. With the exception of IBM, the other two are small potatoes and can be outspent in a day by Apple or Microsoft compared to what they spend all year marketing Linux. That's not the fault of the companies, the developers or users. That's just hard economics.
Linux must do "x" to be popular. No, Linux is popular on plenty of platforms, and the only platform left to "conquer" is the desktop. You yourself will probably move to Linux (Android) because for now Microsoft has come out and said they are ignoring the mobile computing market. God knows why. It's the only market with serious growth potential. The desktop market is already saturated with their software and thus their growth is limited by the overall desktop market growth.
Newsflash: While you've ignored Linux, it's conquered everything but the desktop and the desktop is morphing into mobile computing for nearly everything, where Linux already has a gigantic foothold.
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Protip: All Android phones are "linux machines"
They don't necessarily have the GNU userland, but then iOS doesn't necessarily have all of the BSD userland either.
His citing of Net Applications is suspect, because Net Applications has consistently, over the years, undercounted Linux in everything. And no, that's not because I'm wearing tinfoil, it's because everyone else on the planet reports higher numbers.
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Popularity is a measurement of marketing. Nothing more. It's not related to quality, because there are plenty of McDonalds' out there and a lot fewer Capital Grilles for hamburgers.
The money for marketing Desktop Linux compared to Windows or OSX, is near zero, so this would bear out the *reported* desktop statistics.
>Surfing the web from a mobile device can be clumsy and expensive.
What is this. People friggin' do this all the time. They've been doing it for years now. What are you even trying to say here?
>Net Applications
Yeah, Net Applications can be dismissed out of hand.
Nielsen has been counting people since before you were born, bright boy. Plus they're not beholden to Microsoft like Net Applications is.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/226339/android_market_share_growth_accelerating_nielsen_finds.html
Just look at those Android stats.
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.... don't know if trole...
If you're just trolling, then you should be marked troll. If you're not marked trolling, well, I guess Slashdot doesn't have a moderation "-1 waste of oxygen"
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I would rather that they fix the problem than have the flight on time anyway due to managerial intransigence and bloody-minded thinking that led to launching in freezing weather and "it's just foam, how bad can it be?"
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And those people couldn't install Windows on their own no matter how hard they tried.
I had an experience that was just infuriating because the person who wanted Linux was as sharp as burlap bag fulla wet mice. I initially didn't even want to give him an install disk because "you don't even know what you're asking" and after which he conned someone else at work to come over his house and install it, he managed to get on Yahoo Instant Messenger (I guess he found Pidgin on his own) and berate me for breaking his computer. I fucking lost it.
I yelled at him and I told him he was a dunce and he no longer speaks to me and I consider this a vast improvement over the previous condition.
Ordinary people with 100 IQs can use Linux with no problems. It's the ones that go through life with a "learning is hard" chip on their shoulder shouldn't even have computers.
The funny thing is, these same people think nothing of using a smartphone or tablet that is utterly foreign in operation to a desktop PC running Windows. Don't fucking ask me why.
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That is just pants-on-head retarded tinfoil-hat wearing paranoia.
Everything in SELinux is available for scrutiny should you friggin bother to look. It's not closed code. It's not even obfuscated.
Part of the NSA's /job/ is computer network security. Contributing to SELinux is to be expected for such an agency, especially since Linux is used extensively in national laboratories like Lawrence Livermore, ORNL and at companies like Mitre Corp.
Now go back under your bridge, troll.
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BMO
Ah yes, the 15 year old argument that Linux is too difficult to use for the ordinary home user, who surfs the net, does his checkbook, writes papers for school, and other generic tasks that can be done on a Linux platform without any arcane pounding on the keyboard at a command prompt.
Let me tell you about Uncle Joe. Uncle Joe is a guy from the Old Country (TM). Specifically, Madiera. He's a machinist and a damn good one at that. His education stopped at the 8'th grade, as it did in Madiera. He was curious about Linux so I installed it for him. His wife's computer was untouched.
His reaction? "I don't see why it's supposedly so hard, it's just like Windows"
That was 4 years ago. He has yet to go back.
His experience is so trouble free, he bought a new machine and told the salesman "No, I don't need to upgrade Windows to Ultimate, I'm going to install Linux" - which he did without my help. I would say that the Uncle Joe Experiment was a resounding success.
The only thing that is still difficult on Linux is running Windows games. But then that argument means that Windows is just a gaming OS and I don't think you want to go there.
It's not the 90s anymore, dude.
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That's what happens when you post drunk.
Obviously he is ethanol fueled.
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>while not as intuitive as the Start Menu from 1995
Yes, because you click on the start icon to shut down.
Yup, intuitive.
The "Windows is intuitive" meme makes me want to bang my head against the wall until bloody.
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Sodium metal and water most certainly will react.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY7mTCMvpEM
About 4 years ago there was a fad on Youtube of people having "sodium parties."
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>like an explicit LD50 given
Water toxicity is an actual threat. People have died because they thought water is completely harmless when ingested in huge amounts, that you'll simply pee away the excess. You do pee away excess water, but the kidneys act only just so fast - 1 litre per hour for healthy kidneys.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865/ns/us_news-life/
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Water has a MSDS.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/w0600.htm
MSDSes are fun.
Learn something. Learn what to do when you get superglue in your eye:
http://www.rockler.com/tech/RTD20000394AA.pdf
In other words "nothing, put a patch over it and it will come off the eyeball on its own in a few days."
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>It doesn't ship with any, but the experiments utilize common household chemicals.
So does the Anarchists' Cookbook.
BRB, I'm going to market the Anarchists' Cookbook as a "chemistry set" and make millions selling it to kids.
Completely legal, but this would troll so many people. To troll Nancy Grace with this shit would be hilarious.
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>fix-a-flat can
Just so you know, unless you specifically buy the non-flammable fix-a-flat, you have filled your tire with a fire/explosion hazard. You are supposed to tell your mechanic that you used a fix-a-flat can so he can purge the tire with air a few times before unmounting the tire.
I've always been diligent about this after a friend/mechanic yelled at me for not telling him.
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BMO
>He's never had to change a tire in his life where he didn't have washing facilities. Or even change a tire from the looks of the message.
I don't know about you, but when I have to change a tire, it's never in a convenient place where I can wash up. It's always out in the middle of nowhere.
Couple this with the incredible number of times we all touch our faces per hour unconsciously, and yep, you've got a vector.
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>Was that entire post seriously necessary to clarify that point?
Yes, because you're stupid and a liar.
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>Sorry, if you're going to take my money away from me, I'm going to demand a better rationale than "That's awesome."
Name a pet project that you like (including defense spending) and I'll come up with the same argument you just did.
If your argument consists of "you're taking my money for what I don't like" then I suggest you go back to Somalia where there aren't any taxes - or services.
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>It's just too fucking hard!
I think the "giant's drink" game in Ender's Game is nethack.
I could be wrong. But I've never seen the balrog so I can't say that the balrog is /not/ the giant.
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> the output of software is not copyrightable
It sure is copyrightable in some circumstances (lists of facts, like a database isn't). It fucking belongs to *you* you fucking retard. If you run software that creates a piece of art, that art is *yours* and the copyright belongs to *you.* The output of a word processor is certainly copyrightable. It belongs to *you* if it is original content.
Copyright law goes like this:
Copyright automatically belongs to the creator. Nobody else. Not society, not your mom, not the publishers. It belongs to you. It can be assigned to someone else or it may be licensed. That is what the sentence you are talking about is referring to. It must be done in fucking writing, too, not verbally. Assigning copyright must be done on paper. Licensing can be by agreement which is what the GPL is.
When you receive software written by someone else you agree to abide by their license. No matter what the license is. Because if there was no license at all, you would not even have the right to install the software in the first place. (many anti-gpl people somehow think that if the GPL suddenly disappeared that all that code would become public domain. They are wrong because the law does not say that)
I feel like I'm talking to bloody Dan Wallace here.
And for you to say that the output of a program is a derivative work means you don't understand the word "derivative" at all.
And this bullshit about "natural law" means you're a nutcase. I suppose you're one of those "sovereign persons"
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