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Yes, an Armadillo Can Give You Leprosy

sciencehabit writes "For years, scientists have speculated that armadillos can pass on leprosy to humans, and that they are behind the few dozen cases of the disease that occur in the US every year. Now, they have evidence. A genetic study published in The New England Journal of Medicine shows that US armadillos and human patients share what seems to be a unique strain of the bacterium that causes leprosy. If an armadillo's blood 'got on my tires of my car from running [the animal] over, I would wash it down,' advises one expert. 'And I would not dig in soil that has a lot of armadillo excrement.'"

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  1. Leprosy can be cured. by Dr.Bob,DC · · Score: 3, Funny


    I've never run across a patient with leprosy but in The Journal of Chiropractic Medicine, I read about a person in Texas who went to her Chirporactor with leprosy sores. The Doctor performed some excellent manipulations which got the patient's nervous system in tip-top shape to battle the infection.

    After intense treatments the leprosy was GONE.

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    1. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's just one problem with curing leprosy: bloody do-gooders.

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    2. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by feedayeen · · Score: 1

      I've never run across a patient with leprosy but in The Journal of Chiropractic Medicine, I read about a person in Texas who went to her Chirporactor with leprosy sores. The Doctor performed some excellent manipulations which got the patient's nervous system in tip-top shape to battle the infection. After intense treatments the leprosy was GONE.

      Morbo says, "BOdies do not work that way!" -Futurama reference

    3. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by turkeyfeathers · · Score: 5, Funny

      Correlation does not imply causation. It could be that the patient took some effective homeopathic medicines after seeing her Chiropractor and that's what cured the leprosy.

    4. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 1

      It's like Jesus healing the lepers, only instead of a miracle, this is pseudoscience bunkum.

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    5. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Dr.Bob,DC · · Score: 1

      I don't remember the full story but she didn't want any Big Pharma poisons in her. That's why she went to a chiro for healing.

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    6. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I've never run across a patient with leprosy

      It's called "Hansen's disease," you insensitive clod!

    7. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Mojofreem · · Score: 5, Informative

      Leprosy is caused by a bacterial infection, and is easily cured with common antibiotics.

    8. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by hedwards · · Score: 2

      Chiropractors don't work that way. They realign the spine and frequently give exercises to keep the core strong and healthy, this would be way out of their typical scope of practice. And there's little overlap there, pharmaceuticals don't solve postural problems, at best they'll loosen up a back spasm, but they definitely won't do anything for the underlying condition.

    9. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure that we can rule out the possibility of the patient having taken an effective homeopathic medicine on grounds of internal consistency...(unless they were suffering from thirst, of course. Homeopathic medicines are overpriced for that affliction; but efficacious).

    10. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      You got Trolled!
      Let it go.

    11. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Dr.Bob,DC · · Score: 0

      Oh no, that's old school. A modern chiropractor offers much more; vitamins & supplements, some homeopathic and naturopath medicines. Some have acupuncturists in clinic. Many offer courses discussing the dangers of vaccines and autism.

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    12. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Chiropractors don't work that way. They realign the spine and frequently give exercises to keep the core strong and healthy, this would be way out of their typical scope of practice.

      There's a lot of people that think that chiropractors can cure diseases by realignments and things like that. It's crazy, but people also believe in homeopathic "medicine", which is really just water with about .00000001% of something else in it. A lot of chiropractors are into alternative medicine type stuff. I knew one guy, he would go to the store, buy some raw steak, and eat it in the car on the way home.

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    13. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Desler · · Score: 2

      Many offer courses discussing the dangers of vaccines and autism.

      So they are quacks, then, right? Did you miss the memo about how that study that was linking vaccines to autism was a complete fraud?

      An investigation published by the British medical journal BMJ concludes the study's author, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, misrepresented or altered the medical histories of all 12 of the patients whose cases formed the basis of the 1998 study -- and that there was "no doubt" Wakefield was responsible.

    14. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Many offer courses discussing the dangers of vaccines and autism.

      Do they talk about how there is no danger and the whole "vaccines cause autism" scare is a load of crap propagated by unethical scientists and desperate people looking for anyone to blame for their child's condition?

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    15. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Desler · · Score: 1

      which is really just water with about .00000001% of something else in it.

      You give them far too much credit. The more likely percentage is 0%.

    16. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Desler · · Score: 1

      Oh and another great quote such as this:

      Wakefield has been unable to reproduce his results in the face of criticism, and other researchers have been unable to match them. Most of his co-authors withdrew their names from the study in 2004 after learning he had had been paid by a law firm that intended to sue vaccine manufacturers -- a serious conflict of interest he failed to disclose. After years on controversy, the Lancet, the prestigious journal that originally published the research, retracted Wakefield's paper last February.

      The hallmark of a credible study is when you can't even reproduce your results!

    17. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up. Leprosy is no longer an issue. Antibiotics FTW.

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    18. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Desler · · Score: 1

      But...but...Jenny McCarthy said it's true!!! Jenny McCarthy would never lie about that!

    19. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I've never run across a patient with leprosy

      It's called "Hansen's disease," you insensitive clod!

      Why don't you have a seat over there?

    20. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      I think you got whooshed there....

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    21. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Desler · · Score: 0

      Is there anyway we can give an uncurable strain to this Hanson?

    22. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ.

      Even more amazing: I hear witchdoctors have a success rate equal to chiropractors.

    23. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by sjames · · Score: 1

      There are a surprising number of ailments (all caused by irritated and pinched nerves) that a chiropractor can alleviate. Most of it can also be handled by yoga postures practiced at home.

      I don't think leprosy is one of those ailments though.

    24. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      There are a surprising number of ailments (all caused by irritated and pinched nerves) that a chiropractor can alleviate.

      You're right, but those aren't viral/bacterial diseases. They're all skeletal issues. After 12 years of football my neck cracks a lot, and I've thought about going to see a chiropractor to have it looked at. But if I get sick or have pain, I'm going to a doctor.

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    25. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      Never know, a chiro could fix a lymphatic problem that lets a persons body heal itself when it otherwise couldn't.

      Not saying leprosy would heal, but just the general idea.

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    26. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by snowgirl · · Score: 4, Informative

      Mod parent up. Leprosy is no longer an issue. Antibiotics FTW.

      Not only this but leprosy is like the bitch version of a bacterial infection. Most of the time, you have to be predisposed to being able to acquire it anyways (or immunocompromised, but that's true with any bacteria/fungus/virus). It's basically somewhere around 10% of the population that can actually acquire leprosy... everyone else could pretty much walk hand in hand with a leper and never catch a thing.

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    27. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Dr.Bob,DC · · Score: 1

      Chiropractors specialize in nervous system function. If there were a subluxation around the spot where the nerves from the spine ran to the lymphatic system, there's no doubt in my mind that I could treat the subluxation and have the lymph system deal with the infection.

      Subluxations are worse than cancer.

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    28. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Leprosy has a fairly high recovery chance (50% IIRC) even in the rare case that it does break out (most people will not catch leprosy even when infected with the pathogen, the immune system fends it off). It doesn't need an external cause.

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    29. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've never run across a patient with leprosy

      Well, if you do, remember the advice from the article - wash your tires It's called "getting rid of the evidence.".

      And if you;re in the US, run them over a few times to make sure they're really dead, and not just faking it. Your insurance rates won't go up as much if they have to pay for a funeral instead of 50 years of medical expenses.

      If an armadillo's blood 'got on my tires of my car from running [the animal] over, I would wash it down,' advises one expert. 'And I would not dig in soil that has a lot of armadillo excrement.'"

      So, someone needs an expert to tell them not to play in poop? Don't mothers teach their kids not to play with the "clay" in the sandbox any more?

    30. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...until there's a resistant strain. Many infections that were considered "easily curable" at the end of the 20th century have become nightmares for hospitals lately.

    31. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by ShakaUVM · · Score: 2

      >>I hear witchdoctors have a success rate equal to chiropractors.

      Can witch doctors cure back pain?

      Because Chiros are actually really good at that. It's just all the other, vaguely related stuff that is nonsense. But when a dickhead in jiu-jitsu knocked my vertebrae out of alignment (sideways), I could barely stand up until a Chiropractor fixed it.

    32. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Leprosy works by killing cells that are vital to the neuron function. It's not a matter of lymph or bone alignment, the cells are deprived of their energy supply and starve.

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    33. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by eleuthero · · Score: 1

      which is really just water with about .00000001% of something else in it.

      You give them far too much credit. The more likely percentage is 0%.

      No, it has to be flavored with something to make it taste awful--otherwise it wouldn't be effective at deluding people into thinking it was real. High levels of alcohol in the water might be part of the scam.

    34. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A chiro can do the same thing any number of other professionals can do; help with muscles and joints by manipulation. I knew someone who actually went to a masseuse therapeutically for chronic muscle pain (and no, this wasn't an excuse for a "happy ending", she, not he, went to a regular, non-prostitute masseuse).

      What a chiro can't do is "heal", however loudly they claim otherwise. A chiro telling you he can help your back pain is legit; that same chiro telling you he can heal leprosy is a quack of the highest order.

    35. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by sjames · · Score: 2

      Many of the conditions aren't skeletal at all. The digestive tract for example seems to be especially vulnerable to chronic issues caused by nerve irritation or compression. Conventional western medicine seems to be particularly bad at correctly diagnosing those conditions. However, you're quite right that none of them are viral or bacterial diseases.

      A holistic approach does suggest that if the patient suffers chronic pain or disruption of the sympathetic nervous system, they may also have immune suppression and a susceptibility to infection secondary to that, and that is most likely why some percentage of the population swears chiropracty can cure infection. However, that's quite different from treating primary infection or even acutely treating secondary infection. For that, you need antibiotics.

      The good news with leprosy is that we now know a combination of drugs with a 100% cure rate.

    36. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by eleuthero · · Score: 1

      Yes, but the extant damage it has caused is not easily cured. They are just now getting into nerve transplantation and even then, it doesn't always take. Artificial nerves, as we saw earlier this week, are developing nicely, but we are still a long way off from practical usage.

    37. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I think you missed the sarcasm tag...or at least I hope you did and he wasn't serious.

    38. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      everyone else could pretty much walk hand in hand with a leper and never catch a thing.

      ... one good sneeze and they can catch all sorts of flying body parts ...

      Seriously, "only" 10% are at risk? 10% is HUGE!

      And on the not-so-serious side ...

      Q. Why do lepers make such lousy poker players?
      A. They have to quit after they've thrown in their hands.

      Q. What's small and green and sheds it's skin?
      A. A leper-chaun.

      Q. What do you call 10 lepers in a hot tub?
      A. Oatmeal.

      Thank you, thank you ... try the fish.

    39. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      I once had a loonie bitch tell me that she could cure my diabetes, heart trouble, etc by having me drink herbal tea, you know, eye of newt..

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    40. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      Hey, don't knock it, I had a GREAT little Viet, oh never mind..

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    41. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dapsone, rifampin, and clofazimine are hardly "common" antibiotics. And yes, you have to take all three (and for many months) to prevent evolution of resistance.

      The good news: 95% of people are immune to it.

    42. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Compaqt · · Score: 2

      Well, if you ever do run across a patient with leprosy, I hope you wash your tires off.

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    43. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      Even better news is that almost everybody is immune to leprosy so the chances of getting infected is very small.

    44. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      Seriously, "only" 10% are at risk? 10% is HUGE!

      Yes, this is true, but things like a cold can be caught by 100% of the population (ok, more or less near 100%), but only a small percentage actually catch enough for it take enough of a foothold and cause symptoms.

      Imagine if only 10% of people could contract The Plague... rather than wiping out an enormous amount of the population, it would have had a significantly decreased impact on the world. People are crazy likely to explain why only some people get a disease like that, by blaming some personality flaw on the person...

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    45. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Correlation does not imply causation. ...

      It doesn't? Every time it rains, I have worms on my sidewalk. I thought for sure that it was raining worms.

    46. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suppose this implies that you should not share a toilet with an armadillo either.

    47. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And since over 80% of all prescription medications are based on plant sources (either derived directly from, or a synthesis thereof) she may well have been right. Or, you know, she might have just been a loony bitch.

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    48. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer you gave it to this Hanson.

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    49. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by kmoser · · Score: 2

      I'll bet she got a prescription for Placebomoxin. That stuff can cure anything. Who says Big Pharma is all bad?

    50. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      I used to be a skeptic of Chiropractor but after doing a trade for service I think it's part of staying healthy. The one I go to is really inexpensive and uses an acupressure device instead of twisting you around. If I go in with a headcold or a stuffy nose, he'll hit a spot near the upper back and nearly instantly I clear up. It doesn't last but it's the oddest thing. Your holistic approach comment makes sense to me, if everything is lined up right the whole system should work more efficiently. But yeah, I still take normal medicine too - anyone who ignores all forms of modern medicine is crazy.

    51. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is that the rain does cause the worms on your sidewalk. Just not in the way that you mock.

    52. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      here's no doubt in my mind that I could treat the subluxation

      "Alternative medicine" practitioners are all either lying or mentally ill. I guess I know which you are.

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    53. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      I've never run across a patient with leprosy but in The Journal of Chiropractic Medicine, I read about a person in Texas who went to her Chirporactor with leprosy sores. The Doctor performed some excellent manipulations which got the patient's nervous system in tip-top shape to battle the infection. After intense treatments the leprosy was GONE.

      You mean after excellent manipulations AND antibiotic treatment with modern, anti-leprosy drugs.

    54. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      I don't remember the full story but she didn't want any Big Pharma poisons in her. That's why she went to a chiro for healing.

      When is the funeral? No flowers?

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    55. Re:Leprosy can be cured. by cavebison · · Score: 1

      everyone else could pretty much walk hand in hand with a leper and never catch a thing.

      And often the leper doesn't actually need to be present.

  2. Letterman... by matty619 · · Score: 2

    Had Jack Hanna on the other night, Jack brought out an Armadillo and mentioned something out this. Not sure why I bothered to post this.

    1. Re:Letterman... by swanzilla · · Score: 5, Funny

      +1 introspective

  3. Taste? by oldhack · · Score: 1

    So how does it taste? I've never had one.

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    1. Re:Taste? by alexborges · · Score: 1

      Not bad. Kind of like pork with mouse. Ever had a well cooked mouse?

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    2. Re:Taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like pork, though not as gamey as the wild boar I had once. Armadillo chili was very common in Houston, little risk of leprosy. The problem was out in western Texas where they tend to prefer their 'dillo on the rare side.

      FWIW, it's the "dry" leprosy, not the weepy kind.

    3. Re:Taste? by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't eat those suckers. Ugh.

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    4. Re:Taste? by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Or you could eat the grain, then go kill something worth eating.
      Or feed the grain to a chicken and eat that.

    5. Re:Taste? by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Don't be bigotted. They are all god's creatures - we must eat them all.

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    6. Re:Taste? by cforciea · · Score: 1

      Or, as I temporarily put on my vegetarian's advocate hat, just eat the grain and then some other non-meat sustenance and not kill any animals or contribute to the extra energy waste and pollution inherent in raising animals to eat.

    7. Re:Taste? by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      Pollution and energy wastage isn't inherent in raising animals to eat - just in certain forms of it. Ranching cattle in areas unsuitable for raising common crops, for example. On the other hand, the raising of pretty much any crop results in the death of some animals, whether by insecticide, destruction of habitat, or harvesting.

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    8. Re:Taste? by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      Man. They are filthy. Have you ever seen one?

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    9. Re:Taste? by cforciea · · Score: 1

      Where you ranch has very little to do with energy waste or pollution. Cattle produce huge amounts of greenhouse gases irrespective of where you put them, among other things. More importantly, you have to feed a cow a lot more energy than you can possibly get back out of its meat. Whatever problems you cause by harvesting crops are automatically worse for farming because you have to farm more to feed the cows than you would have to feed people directly, even if the cows themselves created no pollution or energy drain at all.

      Don't get me wrong, I am not currently a practicing vegetarian or vegan, mostly due to how difficult it is to pull off (you have to spend much more time worrying about your meals. There aren't exactly a lot of easy to pick up/prepare, cheap vegetarian choices at either fast food restaurants or in the frozen food isle). But I at least don't fool myself into believing that my choice is anything but selfish.

    10. Re:Taste? by plover · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or, as I temporarily put on my vegetarian's advocate hat, just eat the grain and then some other non-meat sustenance and not kill any animals or contribute to the extra energy waste and pollution inherent in raising animals to eat.

      Look in the mirror and open your mouth. See those incisors? They're for chewing meat. See those molars? They're for grinding grains.

      You're an omnivore. Fucking deal with it.

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    11. Re:Taste? by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      Where you ranch has very little to do with energy waste or pollution.

      It depends exactly on what you mean by "wasted energy". If cattle are grazed on land that could otherwise be used for raising corn/wheat, then you could say that they are "wasting" the energy difference between the expected output of a crop, and the expected output of the cattle. If you graze them in places where corn couldn't be grown anyway, they "waste" no energy (or at least, no energy that wasn't already being wasted by people not eating the grass).

      Cattle produce huge amounts of greenhouse gases irrespective of where you put them, among other things

      Cattle only produce the huge amounts of greenhouse gases when people start feeding them stuff that's cheap, rather than the stuff their systems were designed to handle. Using natural pasture mixes instead of quick-growing ryegrass, or farmed cereals reduces methane output significantly. Not to mention, there's ongoing research into methane reduction; adding garlic into the diet has been found to result in a large reduction, for example.

      More importantly, you have to feed a cow a lot more energy than you can possibly get back out

      Which is why you feed it grass, a source of energy that would otherwise be wasted, instead of grain/corn. A lot of current beef production does use corn, but it doesn't have to be done.

      Whatever problems you cause by harvesting crops are automatically worse for farming because you have to farm more to feed the cows than you would have to feed people directly

      Hence, grazing them. You don't raise crops that would otherwise feed people and feed them to the cows, you feed them on stuff that people don't eat, and will grow in places where food-crops won't.

      I'm not saying that much of our modern beef production isn't wasteful - it is. But that's not a necessary result of raising beef, it's all about the way we've gone about it. It's perfectly possible to raise cattle sustainably - and was done for centuries before we moved to the current model. It's not as cost or land-effective as the current methods - which is why we moved to feedlots - but as environmental/sustainability concerns begin to compete with cost concerns, there's no reason we can't change our methods. Oh, and for comparison, in Australia (where I live) only 40% of beef production is through feedlots. I understand it's much higher in the US.

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    12. Re:Taste? by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      If you're .au you can buy kanagaroo meat at most supermarkets these days. Kangaroos are not farmed, but raised free-range (purely because it's cheaper to just cull the excess 'roos that are competing with sheep and cattle for grazing) and their metabolism inherently produces less methane than cattle.

      Of course, a kangaroo steak is not the same as a nice piece of cow steak. But for other cooking, particularly dishes that use ground or minced meat, kangaroo is very difficult to tell apart in terms of taste. It also contains less fat than most beef mince, and high levels of protein and iron. Not to mention minced kangaroo is usually cheaper than minced cow!

    13. Re:Taste? by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      They are commonly eaten. In Central and South America, they are an important source of protein. In fact, many consider them a delicacy. Armadillos frequently sell out in markets by mid morning specifically because they are in high demand.

      The fact leprosy follows an age and gender trends suggests you're far more likely to get leprosy playing and working than from consumption of its flesh. Interestingly enough, armadillos are only found in the Americas and yet Asia and Africa have far, far, far higher rates of leprosy.

      I'd also like to point out, many serious diseases are also associated with pork, beef, and domestic turkey, and yet rarely do people have significant problems specifically because we all understand the importance of proper food preparation. Now, I'm not suggesting we all run out and start handling wild armadillos but statistically, they are not primary carriers and despite their daily consumption in large scale, other countries have far higher contamination rates and yet have no armadillos.

    14. Re:Taste? by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      I was referring to possums. I see a bunch of them down here in Texas and they are nasty little critters. Armadillo I would consider eating but learning about the leprosy thing certainly caused me to think twice.

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    15. Re:Taste? by cforciea · · Score: 1

      I also happen to have a highly developed prefrontal cortex that allows me to make complex decisions about behavioral patterns as they relate to my (and humanity's) well-being. I think that trumps a couple of teeth as an evolutionary trait that defines my species.

  4. Blood on the tires? by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1

    I'm slightly confused how blood on your car tires is a likely transfer case. Is it airborne, or contact based, or would you have to touch it and then rub your eyes or ingest it somehow? I don't know about you by the only time I touch my tires IS when I'm washing them down. And I guess maybe checking air-pressure. I've certainly never considered them particularly sanitary.

    1. Re:Blood on the tires? by turkeyfeathers · · Score: 2

      Ah, you misread the quote. When he said "If an armadillo's blood got on my tires of my car from running [the animal] over, I would wash it down", the "it" referred to the armadillo and not the car tire. He was suggesting you wash off the armadillo before eating it which is good advice for any roadkill.

    2. Re:Blood on the tires? by bmo · · Score: 2

      >He's never had to change a tire in his life where he didn't have washing facilities. Or even change a tire from the looks of the message.

      I don't know about you, but when I have to change a tire, it's never in a convenient place where I can wash up. It's always out in the middle of nowhere.

      Couple this with the incredible number of times we all touch our faces per hour unconsciously, and yep, you've got a vector.

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      BMO

    3. Re:Blood on the tires? by boristdog · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's it, I'm not going to check the tire pressure with my mouth any more.

    4. Re:Blood on the tires? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not going to check the pressure of armadillos with my mouth anymore either.

    5. Re:Blood on the tires? by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1

      I guess I did fail to account for the case where you run over the Don Quixote of armadillos that manages to shred your tire as you run him over. But then you wouldn't have anything to wash the tire off with first anyways. My point was along the lines of tire touching is pretty infrequent (unless your doing a shitty job inflating your tires which would explain why changing a tire is something you'd think a better example then checking the pressure) so it seems like you'd be more at risk to exposure by immediately interacting with it by washing it off rather then just letting it be. How long can it last on there while remaining contagious?

      As a side not, I've never actually had to change a tire on my personal vehicle. I have on other vehicles that I'm not in charge of getting tires replaced on though. I'm of the view that if your keeping them inflated, rotated and replaced correctly you generally shouldn't have to do this unless you run over something rather serious. Small punctures I can usually just re-inflate with some of that stop leak stuff for which can get me to a shop for a patch or replacement and saves the effort and use of the spare for blow-outs.

    6. Re:Blood on the tires? by plover · · Score: 3, Informative

      >He's never had to change a tire in his life where he didn't have washing facilities. Or even change a tire from the looks of the message.

      I don't know about you, but when I have to change a tire, it's never in a convenient place where I can wash up. It's always out in the middle of nowhere.

      Couple this with the incredible number of times we all touch our faces per hour unconsciously, and yep, you've got a vector.

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      BMO

      On several occasions that I can remember when I've had to change a tire on the road, I've banged up my knuckles on something or other while loosening the lug nuts, or cut myself on some sharp bit of metal while raising the vehicle with the jack. There's reason enough to not want to have known pathogens hanging around your fenders.

      --
      John
    7. Re:Blood on the tires? by bmo · · Score: 2

      >fix-a-flat can

      Just so you know, unless you specifically buy the non-flammable fix-a-flat, you have filled your tire with a fire/explosion hazard. You are supposed to tell your mechanic that you used a fix-a-flat can so he can purge the tire with air a few times before unmounting the tire.

      I've always been diligent about this after a friend/mechanic yelled at me for not telling him.

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      BMO

    8. Re:Blood on the tires? by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1

      Did not know that, thanks for the tip, I'll have to check which one I have!

    9. Re:Blood on the tires? by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      I'm slightly confused how blood on your car tires is a likely transfer case.

      Its the exact same reason spitting was outlawed long ago. The contamination can transfer to soil where it can be inhaled at a later time. Given that the tire is likely to go where you and your family resides, its not a pathogen you likely want around your house.

  5. I'VE BEEN VINDICATED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always claimed that leprosy comes from armadillos.

  6. Old news by PraiseBob · · Score: 1

    Why is this news? I caught an armadillo 20 (Twenty) years ago, and the next day read up on them and was shocked and terrified to learn they often carry leprosy.

    1. Re:Old news by Amouth · · Score: 1

      what i find news is that the US has it's own strain.. not really that hard if you think about it..  but interesting..

      i guess the news is that the now have evidence to confirm transmission occurs rather than just saying.. hit has it and you might be able to get it, and it would be bad if you did.

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  7. Royal Pains by fidget42 · · Score: 1

    Anyone who has watch "Royal Pains" knows this.

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  8. To be fair by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

    We humans gave them leprosy to begin with. Leprosy was unknown in the new world before Columbus. Turns out this is just another case of mother nature wanting to kill everything.

    1. Re:To be fair by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Turns out this is just another case of mother nature wanting to kill everything.

      Bender: Hey hot mama, wanna kill all humans?

      Mother Nature: Sure!

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    2. Re:To be fair by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Turns out this is just another case of mother nature wanting to kill everything."

      Mother Nature DOES kill everything as part of the process which sustains life. Zero waste, everything turns back into "food".

      Pretty cool actually.

      --
      "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
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  11. Imagine that... by Azadre · · Score: 1

    Armadillo's are the only non-human host of mycobacterium leprae and they can infect humans.

  12. Re:How would you know? by Desler · · Score: 1

    There are patterns to animal shit.

  13. Hellfire by aapold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Damn you Lord Foul! Must you corrupt these beautiful creatures and turn them into servants of despite?

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    "Waste not one watt!" - CZ
    1. Re:Hellfire by jitterman · · Score: 1

      Think T.C. was performing roadkill cleanup between novels, leading to his unfortunate circumstance?

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    2. Re:Hellfire by popo · · Score: 1

      Nothing a wee bit of hurtloam can't cure!

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    3. Re:Hellfire by lordfoul · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry, my bad

    4. Re:Hellfire by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      I invoke Rule 34

    5. Re:Hellfire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *clenches fists*

      Love that some people here remember the story though.

  14. Re:How would you know? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    You can learn to identify the characteristics of armadillo droppings, just as you can any other animal. As for knowing if a patch of dirt has some in it, well, if you are working in the yard/ground and you live in a region with armadillos, wear gloves and wash well afterwards. And if you do find the droppings and think you've been exposed, just go into the doctor and get tested. Simple as that.

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  16. Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll before by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welcome to Slashdot, and thanks for bringing something new and original to the art of trolling! When I saw your recent chiropractic trolls, I thought you might be a flash in the pan, but now I see you are here for an extended stay. Thanks for bringing some levity into my otherwise boring day.

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  17. Re:How would you know? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    Then just lay down armadillo food laced with bright purple dye?

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  18. Thank Goodness I Read This When I Did! by darthservo · · Score: 1

    I was planning on finally shoveling that pile of armadillo excrement in my back yard after work today, but I'm glad I caught this at work. Phew!

    --

    Prove it.

    1. Re:Thank Goodness I Read This When I Did! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You caught Leprosy at work? Wow, what kind of Armadillos do you work with?

  19. Conspiracy by elkstoy · · Score: 0

    Now I know the real reason we got Texas back from Mexico!

    1. Re:Conspiracy by eleuthero · · Score: 2

      The main risk is actually for those who have (1) eaten armadillo, (2) lived in Mexico proper, and (3) also eaten rabbit from Mexico. Why are these three connected? I have no idea, but http://www.ajtmh.org/cgi/content/full/78/6/962 offers more info.

  20. Well, hell by jitterman · · Score: 1

    at least now I know why I feel so numb after working all day on my armadillo farm.

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    For conscience is the wound, and there's naught to staunch it
    1. Re:Well, hell by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      at least now I know why I feel so numb after working all day on my armadillo farm.

      That's not leprosy, that's the creeping sense of despair one feels when they realise they've ended up working on an armadillo farm.

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  21. Wait, what? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

    Have you just ruined the entire Chronicles of Thomas Covenant series for me?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by plover · · Score: 1

      Have you just ruined the entire Chronicles of Thomas Covenant series for me?

      No, the entire Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever ruined it for themselves. If he spared you five minutes reading that ...tripe... then you owe him for saving that five minutes of your life you wouldn't have otherwise gotten back.

      Here's the story (still irritating a few of my braincells even after 25 years): bitter leper whose life sucks passes out and imagines he's now healthy in a faraway land of magic and swords. The first things he does in this new land are evil (rape and murder). Spends the rest of the book moping about it, and being generally shitty to everyone who might offer him redemption. Wakes up after a year to find out he's still a 20th century leper who just blacked out in his living room and whacked his head on the coffee table, and his real life still sucks ass. Repeat for at least two more sequels, at which point I realized just how much stupider I became for having read them.

      Oh, here's a ***warning ***spoilers*** alert for the above. It was so bad, that's how much I care.

      --
      John
    2. Re:Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I remember when it came out and a lot of people were really hyping it. Somehow the back cover plot descriptions never appealed to me and I never started the series. After reading your description, I am seriously thankful that the only time I wasted was reading the back cover plot descriptions.

    3. Re:Wait, what? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      What made it interesting for me was the crossover between the harsh realities of our modern world, including rape and terminal illness, and the softly lit fantasy worlds where innocence is real. I think it got a lot of people's backs up because they assumed it was glorifying rape (central character was a rapist), which Donaldson also followed through with in his superb Gap series, but that wasn't the point at all. You see that same kind of stark contrast in movies like The Fall and Pan's Labyrinth, a breathtaking mechanism if you can pull it off.

  22. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by RsG · · Score: 1

    Note to anyone who thinks spun is joking:

    Go click on "dr" bobs user page. The name and high UID alone should be a clue. Yes, he is a troll, and yes, he is specifically posting chiro/alt-med comments that he knows will get a reaction. Further to this, the entire thread above this post should serve as proof that it's working.

    Honestly, it never ceases to amaze me the number of otherwise intelligent people who will fall for a troll posting deliberate flamebait. At least this one is more subtle than most.

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  23. Another reason ... not to live in TX, AZ and NM by BulletMagnet · · Score: 0

    as if the other creepies weren't enough....

    1. Re:Another reason ... not to live in TX, AZ and NM by eleuthero · · Score: 1

      Try all across the South / South East and much of central america (not in the link): http://www.ajtmh.org/content/vol78/issue6/images/large/962fig1.jpeg

    2. Re:Another reason ... not to live in TX, AZ and NM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a New Mexican, you insensitive clod!

      Besides we don't have Armadillos in Albuquerque.

      By creepies, did you mean tarantulas or pedophiles?

  24. Two tools can solve that problem. by couchslug · · Score: 1

    A varmint rifle and a shovel. Turn the critter into a red mist from a distance, bury it later if it's not in a convenient spot.

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    "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
    1. Re:Two tools can solve that problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A varmint rifle and a shovel. Turn the critter into a red mist from a distance, bury it later if it's not in a convenient spot.

      Or leave other creatures alone and don't play with turds. I find that this strategy prevents a wide range of problems in life.

    2. Re:Two tools can solve that problem. by cforciea · · Score: 1

      +1 Funsightful.

    3. Re:Two tools can solve that problem. by arivanov · · Score: 1

      Yeah, spread as much as possible of the infectious material into an aerosol in the air... Great idea. The last thing you need to do to a potentially infectious creature is to shoot it.

      --
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  25. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by spun · · Score: 2

    It's actually pretty funny. Slashdot is one of the more rational and skeptical sites on the Internet. Almost anyplace else, you would get an almost equal number of believers defending the guy. There really are few places less inviting to a real chiropractor. He gives a few hints as to his true nature, I especially like "Subluxations are worse than cancer." Hahaha, oh, that's rich. Unless you really have cancer, in which case I imagine it must feel fairly insulting. "Sorry to hear about your pinched nerve, dude, now pass me my fucking wig, I'm done throwing up."

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    - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
  26. Sound advice by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1

    And I would not dig in soil that has a lot of armadillo excrement.'

    Oddly enough, this has been my family's motto for five generations.

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  27. Vectors (and a link to an older article) by eleuthero · · Score: 2

    Washing off the tire would be a good idea because the bacteria survives well, particularly in soil/sand/etc. If you run over the armadillo and then park in your garage, there's a good chance the little m. leprae are going to still be alive. Washing the tire off won't remove that possibility entirely, but it will get rid of most of them, reducing your risk significantly. And even if they do have a cure, I'd hate to have symptoms (irreversible) before they realized the need for treatment.

    More importantly, this is fairly old news: Journal of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene

  28. Obvious... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    'And I would not dig in soil that has a lot of armadillo excrement.'

    I can think of several reasons other than leprosy why I would avoid doing this.

  29. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by swanzilla · · Score: 1
    His best yet was:

    Chiropractic adjustments for newborn babies is barbarous! Most of my fellow Chiros will refuse to see children under 3, by the time the spine has had time to set.

    ^ that is pure gold

  30. 95% of people have a natural immunity by tylersoze · · Score: 1

    With the caveat that you also have to be in the 5% of people that don't have a natural immunity to it already.

    1. Re:95% of people have a natural immunity by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Hmm. Good point. To find out, I'll just expose myself to this vial of leprosy... No... No... seems fine... Oh, it was actually a vial of pop rocks. Well who has my vial of leprosy then?

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  31. NOOOO! by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

    I can't go digging in soil with Armadillo excrement? Well there goes my vacation plans!

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    I8-D
  32. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    spun chk ur emailz...

  33. Furthermore... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If an armadillo's blood 'got on my tires of my car from running [the animal] over, I would wash it down,' advises one expert.

    Furthermore, if an armadillo were to find itself in my path when I was driving a tank, and I drove over it a few thousand times, reversing and going over it again ad nauseum, then aimed the main turret at it for a quick blast with a few armor-piercing shells, then I got out and kicked it in the nuts a few times while cursing its mom, I would not attend its funeral.

  34. It's not hard to figure out if your from the South by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you eat the damn thing...of course you will get leprosy...

  35. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slashdot is one of the more rational and skeptical sites on the Internet.

    Have you any idea how much it scares me that this is true?

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  36. Actually they're kinda cute by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    I used to work in Sugar Land TX, and we had armadillos and other critters wandering around the office park on a regular basis. In real life, armadillos are cute. They're almost completely blind, so if you are quiet and work closer to them from downwind you can get quite close. They are surprisingly fast (for short distances), grubbing around in the grass looking for bugs and such. Their ears wiggle and they have a cartoony appearance.

    If they didn't smell so much they'd probably make an interesting pet - except for the obvious problem cited here, the fact that they're wild, nocturnal, not housebroken, and are illegal in some states.

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  37. Oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q: What did the leper say to the prostitute?

    A: Keep the tip.

  38. Reminds me of something I read once. by crovira · · Score: 1

    From a parenting book:

    Q. Do diapers give you leprosy?

    A. No. Its the pee and the poopoo that give you leprosy. Diapers give you hives.

    But seriously, I'm not surprised that there is an animal/human vector for what is, after all, a virological disease.

    So let go of that armadillo, Joe. You might catch something.

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  39. Ah. by jd · · Score: 1

    So that's what killed The Clash. Mystery solved.

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    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
  40. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by spun · · Score: 1

    Well, I suppose it should scare you. This is as good as it gets.

    Why is it that the older I get, the dumber people appear? Luckily, there is a corollary: the older I get, the less I care. I figure, the world must have always been this way, right? They just lied to us when we were kids, they didn't want us to worry that clowns were running the place. But the world shambles on in its moronic fashion, somehow lurching past one near disaster after another. It gives one some comfort to realize that, as dumb as things are, we've managed to make do this far.

    Maybe intelligence is overrated? All it seems to have brought me are painful insights...

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  41. Afraid of Leprosy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't you cure leprosy with Neosporin?

  42. Yes, an Armadillo Can Give You Leprosy by bab72 · · Score: 1

    But, will it make you breakfast the next morning?

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    Bab72 (Not my real name)
  43. Re:Cool! We've never had a chiropractic troll befo by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

    I guess I went through another step between the two - when I realized what freakshow this is, I thought I could change anything. When I realized that it won't happen, I went into caring less mode. But yes, you are right, it is amazing how resilient the whole thing proves to be. Nature of life, I guess - evolution doesn't optimize towards the best, only towards anything that is just barely working good enough. That's what we are stuck with - and intelligence only shows you how hard "barely good enough" actually sucks compared to what could be. Probably not a beneficial trait in the long run, evolutionary speaking...

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  44. JAMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this tagged as JAMA? It's from the NEJM.

  45. sudo apt-get uninstall armadillo by syousef · · Score: 1

    Am I only one who has no clue how to tell if excrement is from an armadillo or not? Much less whether a patch of dirt has a lot in it?

    It doesn't matter. Just run this and you'll be fine:
    sudo apt-get uninstall armadillo

    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/armadillo/

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  46. Don't go to Australia, either. :( by Hero+Zzyzzx · · Score: 1

    You can get chlamydia from a koala, those adorable little sluts.

    If you're having marital relations with a koala, chlamydia is probably the least of your problems.

    1. Re:Don't go to Australia, either. :( by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      You laugh, but a friend of mine did her doctoral thesis on chlamydia in koalas. It is a serious problem threatening an already at risk species.

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  47. There goes our Firday night by hughbar · · Score: 1

    Armadillo licking parties, science spoils everything. I wondered why I couldn't feel my tongue recently...

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  48. Revenge of the Dasypus novemcinctus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OA : "To learn more about the home-grown U.S. cases, Truman collaborated with Stewart Cole at the Global Health Institute at the Ãcole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne in Switzerland, and other scientists. They captured wild armadillos in five southern states, performed whole-genome sequencing of M. leprae found in one of them, and compared it to the whole genome of bacteria isolated from the skin of three patients. All four strains were essentially the same, and, interestingly, did not match leprosy strains reported in other parts of the world, suggesting this one was unique to the United States"

    Blame Storrs and Kirchheimer I say...

    http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/the-ancient-armadillo-fights-a-war-against-disease/

    "Storrs, who had been studying armadillos for some time, believed that they might make suitable candidates for experiments on leprosy"

    "In 1970 Storrs joined forces with Kirchheimer, who was with the U.S. Public Service Hospital at Carville, Louisiana, and began to carry out experiments on armadillos. In the beginning, unrelated animals captured in the wild were inoculated with the leprosy bacillus. Proof that armadillos were susceptible to the disease came when one of the animals developed it and died."

  49. Is this thing working? by cavebison · · Score: 1

    I have my comment point cutoff set to +5, and can't see the word "trousers" anywhere.