>tl;dr : I want to walk around with entire distros, have a sneakernet repo handy, not have to prepare subsets of software just the whole big thing. Of course you used to be able to do that with a half-dozen CD-R or less in the 90s but that can spiral out to dozens or hundreds of DVD.
So you want to carry around a/whole/ archive but don't want to buy a drive big enough? And you get mad that the archive is too big? Then you're a moron on top of all that.
> If you have expert knowledge on how to install software (from distro) an offline way, that's interesting.
Yes, I know how. It's called "ordering a set of CDs or DVDs", like I used to do back in the 1990s and you can still do today.
>I tried to mirror debian wheezy i386, and I ran out of space after downloading 86GB (even excluding backports, updates, squeeze, jessie etc.).
>ran out of space
In which decade? No, really, in which decade? Oh wait, Jessie? That's the new one, so we're talking about modern drives that cost 4.5 cents a gigabyte. You ran out of space?
If you want evidence, just look at the high profile projects that have had annoying little bugs that lasted for months or even years because hunting down the bug and fixing it would be boring.
Nothing's wrong with EcomStation, except the unavailability of modern software. People who buy EcomStation have legacy applications that need to be run on OS/2.
>Not even the windows version of Object Desktop from the folks at Stardock?
Just because you call something "object" doesn't mean it's object oriented.
I'll give you an example: Say you have an icon. The icon is a representation of an object that does something. You take another object, drop it on the icon, and an output object is created. But it's not just that, this "an object that does something" is available throughout the entire environment. That's the view from the user side.
From the developer end, to quote Wikipedia:
A part of the WPS design allows for the developer of a class Y which extends or modifies a class X to execute an additional API on installation which will let the WPS 'replace' class X by class Y. This will make even all existing instances of class X behave as instances of the modified class Y; i.e., almost a retroactive inheritance. This allows for many useful third-party desktop utilities that add or modify functionality to or of existing objects without access to IBM's source code. Where the IDL and class headers also of derived classes are published, these classes can as well be extended in turn in the same way.
You can find out what this is really like by downloading EcomStation.
I have a mod stalker who is modding down my past comments and is too much of a cowardly pussy to admit it or face me.
No, you get modded down because you say idiotic things like this:
Now you know why 90% of FLOSS projects are crap.
Implying that this is different in closed source software. This is false. 90 percent of closed-source software is crap too. Sturgeon's Law applies everywhere.
There are parts of KDE that seem much closer to WPS than the other environments. For example, right clicking in Dolphin and "Create New" to make a new blank object is similar to Workplace Shell's templates.
The only parts of icewm that are similar to WPS is the coloring and button layout.
None of the environments on Linux, Windows, or OSX are like the WPS "object oriented user interface." To understand what this is like you have to actually have used OS/2. Everyone else has no idea.
Linux and open source software rely on broadband to install software, for development and collaboration, and cheap 24/7 servers on VMs are useful for project sites, repos, even screen sessions so you can stay on IRC channels. Open source relies on reliable power and bandwith infrastructure, moreso than Windows XP laptops and desktops.
It's like all those years I used Linux with dialup never happened.
There has never been a better time to make one's vocation music for the very reasons you have suggested
To wit, click through to the end of this video (the video is pretty good too - it's one thing to cover a song, but it's completely another to make it yours). Nataly Dawn initially asked for $20K of donations for studio time.
A fingerprint is a password. It's a password in physical form. It's read and then a hash is generated. The hash is the actual "password" that is passed to the program.
Now you're using this hash everywhere that uses the same kind of fingerprint reader. Because manufacturers are lazy.
What's the first rule about passwords besides "it shouldn't be easily guessable"? Never share passwords. Because one leaked password can be used to unlock other accounts if you do. But now you've been using your fingerprint on various devices, and the same hash is shared everywhere now.
So say you're someone evil. You write a program that grabs these hashes off of iPhones (or some other device) through a security hole (because there are always vulnerabilities). Now you've got the hashes that can be used to unlock other devices/accounts.
The same can be said for other biometric security schemes. Irises, retinas, nose prints (security has gone to the dogs!), whatever.
>This is why every single user should delete their FB account.
And go where, Yahoo, G+, Geocities?
Even Usenet is harvested 100 different ways to Sunday.
All these posts in this thread saying "stop interacting with big business." Have y'all looked around? Try doing that without becoming a hermit living in the woods. The battle has been lost, folks.
"B...but Diaspora!" Diaspora is slow and to really take advantage of it, you have to run your own server, which means that 99 percent of users can't even wrap their heads around the concept.
And not only that, but the only "cleanroom" you need is a box with a lid, gloves, and a filtration system you can sometimes pull from a dead vacuum cleaner (the kind with a hepa filter).
If you're handy, you can build one of these under 50 bux.
>Not all phones have GPS so I don't see how it could be mandatory by law,
You forgot to read the rest of the sentence. Cell providers are/required by law/ to supply lat/long. If your phone has GPS, it's going to be used for E911. And I said "failing that, they will use triangulation."
Phase II E911 rules require wireless service providers to provide more precise location information to PSAPs; specifically, the latitude and longitude of the caller. This information must be accurate to within 50 to 300 meters depending upon the type of location technology used.
Since the GPS in the phone is the easiest way to comply, it's not going to be off when you call 911.
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>tl;dr : I want to walk around with entire distros, have a sneakernet repo handy, not have to prepare subsets of software just the whole big thing. Of course you used to be able to do that with a half-dozen CD-R or less in the 90s but that can spiral out to dozens or hundreds of DVD.
So you want to carry around a /whole/ archive but don't want to buy a drive big enough? And you get mad that the archive is too big? Then you're a moron on top of all that.
Jesus Christ. I've foed you. You're that dumb.
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> If you have expert knowledge on how to install software (from distro) an offline way, that's interesting.
Yes, I know how. It's called "ordering a set of CDs or DVDs", like I used to do back in the 1990s and you can still do today.
>I tried to mirror debian wheezy i386, and I ran out of space after downloading 86GB (even excluding backports, updates, squeeze, jessie etc.).
>ran out of space
In which decade? No, really, in which decade? Oh wait, Jessie? That's the new one, so we're talking about modern drives that cost 4.5 cents a gigabyte. You ran out of space?
Not bloody likely.
> I needed an IPv6 connection too.
Now I know you're a liar and a troll.
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If you want evidence, just look at the high profile projects that have had annoying little bugs that lasted for months or even years because hunting down the bug and fixing it would be boring.
You mean like Windows itself?
Your argument is nonsense.
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Nothing's wrong with EcomStation, except the unavailability of modern software. People who buy EcomStation have legacy applications that need to be run on OS/2.
I've used it in VirtualBox for nostalgia reasons.
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>Not even the windows version of Object Desktop from the folks at Stardock?
Just because you call something "object" doesn't mean it's object oriented.
I'll give you an example: Say you have an icon. The icon is a representation of an object that does something. You take another object, drop it on the icon, and an output object is created. But it's not just that, this "an object that does something" is available throughout the entire environment. That's the view from the user side.
From the developer end, to quote Wikipedia:
You can find out what this is really like by downloading EcomStation.
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I have a mod stalker who is modding down my past comments and is too much of a cowardly pussy to admit it or face me.
No, you get modded down because you say idiotic things like this:
Now you know why 90% of FLOSS projects are crap.
Implying that this is different in closed source software. This is false. 90 percent of closed-source software is crap too. Sturgeon's Law applies everywhere.
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I'm an OS/2 refugee.
There are parts of KDE that seem much closer to WPS than the other environments. For example, right clicking in Dolphin and "Create New" to make a new blank object is similar to Workplace Shell's templates.
The only parts of icewm that are similar to WPS is the coloring and button layout.
None of the environments on Linux, Windows, or OSX are like the WPS "object oriented user interface." To understand what this is like you have to actually have used OS/2. Everyone else has no idea.
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There is a 60% VAT on imported computers and anything electronic,
That's all? Pfffft!
You don't want to know what the tax is on a car in Denmark or Singapore.
http://www.expatsingapore.com/content/view/1152
Denmark is 180% to over 200% depending on how you add the taxes.
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Win-anything is crap. Winprinters, winmodems, winscanners should be labeled "loseprinters" "losemodems" and "losescaners" for truth-in-labeling
Even connected to Windows systems, they're crap.
The solution to the win- problem: don't buy crap.
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Linux and open source software rely on broadband to install software, for development and collaboration, and cheap 24/7 servers on VMs are useful for project sites, repos, even screen sessions so you can stay on IRC channels. Open source relies on reliable power and bandwith infrastructure, moreso than Windows XP laptops and desktops.
It's like all those years I used Linux with dialup never happened.
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There has never been a better time to make one's vocation music for the very reasons you have suggested
To wit, click through to the end of this video (the video is pretty good too - it's one thing to cover a song, but it's completely another to make it yours). Nataly Dawn initially asked for $20K of donations for studio time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Z7xceSLy4
Pomplamoose (Jack Conte and Nataly Dawn) being interviewed on the BIRN about how to make a living and other things.
Part one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa3-SA9SvZ0
Part two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6a2jQ5zY94
Part three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKLf3Bjn3v0
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A fingerprint is a password. It's a password in physical form. It's read and then a hash is generated. The hash is the actual "password" that is passed to the program.
Now you're using this hash everywhere that uses the same kind of fingerprint reader. Because manufacturers are lazy.
What's the first rule about passwords besides "it shouldn't be easily guessable"? Never share passwords. Because one leaked password can be used to unlock other accounts if you do. But now you've been using your fingerprint on various devices, and the same hash is shared everywhere now.
So say you're someone evil. You write a program that grabs these hashes off of iPhones (or some other device) through a security hole (because there are always vulnerabilities). Now you've got the hashes that can be used to unlock other devices/accounts.
The same can be said for other biometric security schemes. Irises, retinas, nose prints (security has gone to the dogs!), whatever.
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>First, the example you provide isn't a co-op laying fiber, it's a city doing it.
As if that's going to make any difference.
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>This is why every single user should delete their FB account.
And go where, Yahoo, G+, Geocities?
Even Usenet is harvested 100 different ways to Sunday.
All these posts in this thread saying "stop interacting with big business." Have y'all looked around? Try doing that without becoming a hermit living in the woods. The battle has been lost, folks.
"B...but Diaspora!" Diaspora is slow and to really take advantage of it, you have to run your own server, which means that 99 percent of users can't even wrap their heads around the concept.
>NSA
They're in the NOCs. Good luck with that.
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And not only that, but the only "cleanroom" you need is a box with a lid, gloves, and a filtration system you can sometimes pull from a dead vacuum cleaner (the kind with a hepa filter).
If you're handy, you can build one of these under 50 bux.
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>Not all phones have GPS so I don't see how it could be mandatory by law,
You forgot to read the rest of the sentence. Cell providers are /required by law/ to supply lat/long. If your phone has GPS, it's going to be used for E911. And I said "failing that, they will use triangulation."
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-911-services
Since the GPS in the phone is the easiest way to comply, it's not going to be off when you call 911.
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> where the hell is MICROSOFT ?
NSA_KEY
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Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
>How many are now shutting GPS off on their phones when they're not using it?
It's required for E-911. By Law. Either that or triangulation via towers. It's probably never off.
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I have not heard reports of the NSA bothering to tap company networks that they can already own by legal means,
1. Didn't you hear of that "secret room" at an AT&T NOC a few years ago?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
That's just one example. I suggest you read the snowden articles and the current article on ProPublica.
2. Legal? No. Not by any stretch of the imagination, but "we're the NSA so fuck you."
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>do the feds really bother sucking on the fiber
Haven't you been paying attention to the articles here and elsewhere?
They have been.
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Don't feel bad. It could be worse. You could have fallen for the 5 year old JerryLeeCooper post I put up the other day.
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I have 4 characters for you and one sentence.
YHBT
It was a joke, son.
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Just because I am against one use case doesn't mean I'm against others.
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And in my bucolic neighborhood in Saunderstown RI, we had a problem with break-ins.
Shit happens. Deal with it.
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I get mouse pains in my hand and I'm still not 47
1. Use different devices.
a: Change your mouse. I thought I had a great mouse when the Logitech MX1000 came out, until my arm hurt from my wrist to my shoulder after two weeks.
b: use a different device entirely. Try a trackball. There are also are foot-controlled "mice"
http://bilila.com/foot_mouse_slipper_mouse
2. Raise your arm or lower the mouse and support your arm from the wrist to your elbow. This helped me a lot.
Disclaimer: this is not medical advice. It's just my own experience.
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