Well, that point is somewhat open to debate. As US citizens, we do have the constitutionally-guaranteed right to freely move and travel about this wide nation of ours. Many Supreme Court cases have established this with regards to driving--that is, driving without the need for license, registration, or insurance, all of which restrict the individual's right to move freely within the nation. For interstate flights, considering that some destinations are only valid within a certain time frame, say your mom's funeral, your sister's wedding, it may very well be valid to extend our right to move freely throughout the nation to airlines as well....
"Perhaps this is because of the purpose terrorism was invented for. After all the main goal is not to destroy a few buildings or kill some people, but to introduce fear."
Exactly. And who has been the biggest supporter and the biggest promoter of this fear? The current administration. So who are the terrorists responsible for 9-11 and the cause of all this bull?
Same answer. See this site for some interesting info regarding this idea: http://www.erichufschmid.net/
How the Hell did anyone hijack a plane on 9-11 with a box-cutter? Methinks this is the real urban legend...all this airport security is a solution to a non-problem. Prior to 9-11 how many of you had some altercation on a plane that involved any kind of weapon, be it a gun, a knife, or any other kind of threatening object that was brandished by a person? The real reason for the enhanced security in airports is quite simple: drugs and other contraband. This is the government's stock in trade, but there was much competition from independent operators running mules with small but valuable packages cross country via the airlines. Some sufficiently valuable packages, like LSD and jewels, to name two, could still be effectively moved in this fashion even after 9-11. But with this new "x-ray specs" tech, the government will finally have its monopoly consolidated and protected...
Yes. that is exactly what is next: fascism. Except "next" happened about 50 years before we were born. Wake up and smell the burning flesh--it isn't coffee! This kind of stance by industry and legislation in service of that stance should be a surprise only to those who have been living a hypnotic hallucination for the last century.
Examples: currently we have the Bush administration claiming that medical treatments and drugs approved by the FDA (an arm of the pharmaceutical industry and the AMA masquerading as a regulatory agency) is somehow justification to preclude citizens from suing for damages from injuries that may result from their use. We have the soldiers who are ostensibly trained for "good" activities (like attacking without provocation a sovereign nation to topple a regime that our own government put into power) fallen to torturing the prisoners they have taken, Geneva Convention be damned. We've even had another infamous Reichstaag burning, namely the WTC attacks on 9-11, which makes it twice in less than 10 years the intelligence communities and neoconservatives bombed the same target, while the very same Senators and Congresspersons that spin laws based on the RIAA's bottom line sat on their hands and let them get away with it. (Let us remember, but not dwell on, the other attacks the government has made against Americans: Oklahoma City, Ruby Ridge, Waco Texas.....)
But the move toward fascism started even before FDR illegally stole all the gold from the citizens of his day and then allowed the country to be attacked to stimulate patriotic fervor for an unpopular war. So we howl about the RIAA and how they impact our wallet on some meaningless bit of fluff that we "enjoy" in our oversaturated lives? THIS is what makes us lift our heads and complain that fascism is next? The decadence that this speaks of is so enormous that I have no doubt many readers and posters here will have no idea what I am talking about.
But by all means, recognize these moves by the RIAA for what they are: fascist attacks against Americans without justification. And while you're at it, take a look at what is happening in health care, in Iraq, in the oil-rich and heroin-rich Afghanistan/Pakistan regions, in the policies of an appointed government made up of "evil-doers" that "hates our way of life." That government HAS ALREADY destroyed our constitutional freedoms, made a mockery of the word justice in the courts, incapacitated our citizens and soldiers with poisons and deceit, and is now calling for an end to the electoral process altogether.
The question I have is why did we not notice it before now? Are we so shallow that we can only recognize fascism when it kicks the aural pacifier out of our ears and attacks an institution like public libraries and demands that we pay the piper's keeper, or else? Did no one notice when Dubya's dad used Ross Perot to throw the election to Clinton, who eviscerated social programs in a way that would have made Ron Reagan blush, if he could only remember that once he too was president? Got to watch out for those flu shots, Ron! Oops, too late.....
I think the post above yours made some very valid points, and despite your name calling and your holier-than-thou attitude, I don't see where you apply logic or information in your reply to refute his or her statements.
So my question is, are you an RIAA ringer, or just someone with too much time on your hands and no mental horsepower to apply it to something useful? Oh, and you mean this isn't hell? I could have sworn I got on the right bus....damn!
with all due respect,
Bri
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Well, that point is somewhat open to debate. As US citizens, we do have the constitutionally-guaranteed right to freely move and travel about this wide nation of ours. Many Supreme Court cases have established this with regards to driving--that is, driving without the need for license, registration, or insurance, all of which restrict the individual's right to move freely within the nation. For interstate flights, considering that some destinations are only valid within a certain time frame, say your mom's funeral, your sister's wedding, it may very well be valid to extend our right to move freely throughout the nation to airlines as well....
"Perhaps this is because of the purpose terrorism was invented for. After all the main goal is not to destroy a few buildings or kill some people, but to introduce fear." Exactly. And who has been the biggest supporter and the biggest promoter of this fear? The current administration. So who are the terrorists responsible for 9-11 and the cause of all this bull? Same answer. See this site for some interesting info regarding this idea: http://www.erichufschmid.net/
How the Hell did anyone hijack a plane on 9-11 with a box-cutter? Methinks this is the real urban legend...all this airport security is a solution to a non-problem. Prior to 9-11 how many of you had some altercation on a plane that involved any kind of weapon, be it a gun, a knife, or any other kind of threatening object that was brandished by a person? The real reason for the enhanced security in airports is quite simple: drugs and other contraband. This is the government's stock in trade, but there was much competition from independent operators running mules with small but valuable packages cross country via the airlines. Some sufficiently valuable packages, like LSD and jewels, to name two, could still be effectively moved in this fashion even after 9-11. But with this new "x-ray specs" tech, the government will finally have its monopoly consolidated and protected...
Yes. that is exactly what is next: fascism. Except "next" happened about 50 years before we were born. Wake up and smell the burning flesh--it isn't coffee! This kind of stance by industry and legislation in service of that stance should be a surprise only to those who have been living a hypnotic hallucination for the last century. Examples: currently we have the Bush administration claiming that medical treatments and drugs approved by the FDA (an arm of the pharmaceutical industry and the AMA masquerading as a regulatory agency) is somehow justification to preclude citizens from suing for damages from injuries that may result from their use. We have the soldiers who are ostensibly trained for "good" activities (like attacking without provocation a sovereign nation to topple a regime that our own government put into power) fallen to torturing the prisoners they have taken, Geneva Convention be damned. We've even had another infamous Reichstaag burning, namely the WTC attacks on 9-11, which makes it twice in less than 10 years the intelligence communities and neoconservatives bombed the same target, while the very same Senators and Congresspersons that spin laws based on the RIAA's bottom line sat on their hands and let them get away with it. (Let us remember, but not dwell on, the other attacks the government has made against Americans: Oklahoma City, Ruby Ridge, Waco Texas.....) But the move toward fascism started even before FDR illegally stole all the gold from the citizens of his day and then allowed the country to be attacked to stimulate patriotic fervor for an unpopular war. So we howl about the RIAA and how they impact our wallet on some meaningless bit of fluff that we "enjoy" in our oversaturated lives? THIS is what makes us lift our heads and complain that fascism is next? The decadence that this speaks of is so enormous that I have no doubt many readers and posters here will have no idea what I am talking about. But by all means, recognize these moves by the RIAA for what they are: fascist attacks against Americans without justification. And while you're at it, take a look at what is happening in health care, in Iraq, in the oil-rich and heroin-rich Afghanistan/Pakistan regions, in the policies of an appointed government made up of "evil-doers" that "hates our way of life." That government HAS ALREADY destroyed our constitutional freedoms, made a mockery of the word justice in the courts, incapacitated our citizens and soldiers with poisons and deceit, and is now calling for an end to the electoral process altogether. The question I have is why did we not notice it before now? Are we so shallow that we can only recognize fascism when it kicks the aural pacifier out of our ears and attacks an institution like public libraries and demands that we pay the piper's keeper, or else? Did no one notice when Dubya's dad used Ross Perot to throw the election to Clinton, who eviscerated social programs in a way that would have made Ron Reagan blush, if he could only remember that once he too was president? Got to watch out for those flu shots, Ron! Oops, too late.....
I think the post above yours made some very valid points, and despite your name calling and your holier-than-thou attitude, I don't see where you apply logic or information in your reply to refute his or her statements. So my question is, are you an RIAA ringer, or just someone with too much time on your hands and no mental horsepower to apply it to something useful? Oh, and you mean this isn't hell? I could have sworn I got on the right bus....damn! with all due respect, Bri