Seriously. I am OK that they are using data for this. At this moment there is no opt-out, besides not having a cellphone, so why not use it for something else.
With enough marketing people would by Yasos (Yet Another Smartphone OS). People seldom buy an OS, People buy a device with an OS and if given a choice, they will go with what they know.
Most people buy an iPhone or a Samsung. That one is Android and the other is not is not of any importance for them. (Most, not people here on/.)
We have seen this with PCs. We see it with Tablets. So if there is enough marketing towards the OS customers (the manufacturers) people will buy it.
Also: don't forget that there are places where the carriers do not have that much power. (Europe, at least Belgium)
In the pas few thousands of years, humans have always been mobile. And being mobile, I do not just mean walking. I mean moving around all day.
It is only in the past 75 or so years that we have started to do a LOT of nothing. We sit at our desk and the most we walk is to the printer.
Just look at pictures of 75 years ago and see how few cars there were. All these people and so few cars. They either walked, took a bike or at least walked to the train station. And now we have electric toothbrushes and don't stand up to switch channels.
So what has replaced the moving around all day? Nothing. We don't even stand up to go to the phone anymore.
I noticed this when I went sailing with some friends. On a sailing boat on the sea you move around all day when you just want to sit. Otherwise you fall over. The result was that I was aching all over as I used muscles I normally don't use.
Nothing has replaced what we used to do in the last few thousands of years.
Question: Where did the hack came from? Answer: North Korea Q: How do you know? A: Uh, uhm, ah, we saw it pass our routers that were in North Korea.
Could have easily been the NSA themselves. The only thing we do not know for sure is at what moment they started lying about what they know. So it could be 100% true or 100% false.
All the things you describe are basically just telling them you do not like it without any consequenses for tjose in power.
Revolution might be something. It does not have to be violent. But first you must look at why it has become so bad. Just replacing the people with the same sort will do nothing. Look as to why has it became so bad? Is it because of money in politics? So that means lobbying. So you need something that will keep lobbying out.
However for many taking away power from powerfull people might feel as if it is taking away the American Dream where they can become one of those powerfull people.
Almost every step you might want to take would mean becoming more socialist then what you are now in some way or another and as long as that is an issue, not much will change.
Unfortunately I do not have the answer, otherwise I would have given it away. But yes, history has shown that revolution can have a cleaning influence for some time. Some quotes: It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
-- Henry Ford In retrospect, all revolutions seem inevitable. Beforehand, all revolutions seem impossible.
-- Michael McFaul, A non-violent revolution is not a program of seizure of power. It is a program of transformation of relationships, ending in a peaceful transfer of power.
-- Mohandas K. Gandhi, A revolution is coming â" a revolution which will be peaceful if we are wise enough; compassionate if we care enough; successful if we are fortunate enough â" But a revolution which is coming whether we will it or not. We can affect its character; we cannot alter its inevitability.
-- Robert Kennedy
So? If you watch those shows, you see that they are solved as well. At least 95% of them and 100% if the parents never gve in. Not giving in is the hard part. Then there is the kid that has seriosu mental issues, because it was allowed to go on for too long. The big differnce is that you are not allowed to kill this kid and make a new one.
I also overheard a conversation where some cops-in-training where proud on how they learned how to get confessions out of people for things they did not do. Not get the truth out of them. To get confessions for things THEY DID NOT DO.
Country was Belgium.
When I did a reply on Usenet in an anti-abuse newsgroup of a link to childporn. I informed the police. I also informed the media when it wasn't gone after 2 days. I was asked to come in via the company where I worked and they tried to get me for: 1) Spreading of childporn, because of the reply that still had the URL. (And that is why you must snip on quote correctly on Usenet.) When I told them I send them an email, they explained that their mailserver was broken. 2) The tried to get me for falsification of my identity, because the email-provider did not have my correct address. Like anybody would give out that on some random website. 3) They tried to get me for obstruction of the law, because I spoke to the press. If they would have just send me an autoreply, I would have done nothing. Obviously I had no idea that any investigation was going on. Also: they already KNEW who was the guilty person and were keeping it live just to get higher numbers. As the URL was already out, it ment that they were basically spreading childporn. 4) They called my company from where I had done the posting and told them they needed my information because of a child case abuse. Luckily the COO was not an idiot and understood after 30 seconds when I told him what I had done and even asked me if he should block the info about who I was and wait for a court order. He could easily do that under Belgian law on the right to privacy. The CEO even offerd to pay for any lawyer if anything would come of it. It never did. Imagine that this would have been another company. I could have lost my job over someting I was trying to get solved. But then: They do not care. They were clueless and only interested in the numbers, not in stopping spreading those sick, sick, sick images that I can not unsee. When I left the police station after making clear that I was not afraid and that I did nothing do and they were basically idiots (also leaving me alone with evdence of other cases on the table) they asked me if I would keep the same login in the future. Only later did I realize that I did not know the difference between a login and an email address.
From then on I NEVER saw anything illegal on the Internet anymore. EVER.
So first they can obtain computers. People were upset, but nothing changed and they are able to do it. Next they were able to put people into Gitmo without due process. People were upset, but nothing changed and they are able to do it.
Now they want to spy even more. People are upset. So what will change now?
And you know if it doesn't work to put it into law this time, it will the next time. People will be upset and nothing will happen.
If your kid steals a cookie and all you do is being upset, it will steal again. Just telling the kid it should not do that is not enough.
The rest of the world doesn't care. They are just as bad and the people just as lazy. And if there are backdoors, just sell them to the other countries. Problem solved.
What I would do is send it via Usenet. Because now they have found the link between sender and receiver. With email if you get one person, you can then start looking for other connections that person made and see where that leads you. This because there is a direct link. Even if they have no idea what it means when you sedn "Grandmother is not feeling well."
With Usenet there is no direct link. I can send anything from Belgium to my providers Usenet feed and anybody anywhere can pick it up. When I send it I can use images, or just alt.test or whatever group. It can even be something on topic for that group. A reply can be in a completely unrelated group.
To be sure: this ONLY solves the direct link between people. Once they have both sides, it will be identical as if you were sending mail directly.
Now even if they would be able to see who reads alt.test (and all the other groups) it would mean that they would have to monitor everybody. Oh, wait. They do. [waves] "Hi mom!"
I have a PC and a NAS. The NAS holds the data, so it is accessible for other devices. It also has one HD for (incremential) backups for the PC. Most of the data on the NAS is music, images and movies.
I have these backed up to my PC with rsync. The backup HD on the NAS is mounted read-write only for root during backup. Otherwise it is read-only.
The backup-HDs for media on my PC are only mounted during backup. Otherwise they are unmounted.
So even though they are not unplugged, they are either read-only or not mounted. Also data is available on two devices. So even if one explodes, the other is still there. No, I do not do offsite backup. If my house burns down, I have bigger issues then data.
In each users directory I have ~/backup/ point to/media/backup/latest/home// so that I can easily get a file back I deleted because human error (99.9% of why you need a restore) with just `cp backup/file.txt ~/.` or do it with mc or anything else.
And what I read is that he did have his backup directories read-write for the users. Read-only for everybody, except root should be the obvious way.
As a European, please take a huge rope, tie it around the UK and drag it to the other side of the pool. And if you think you don't have enough space for another country, we will gladly take Canada.
If people would not like it, these things would starve. However the crowd seems to like it. If you don't, move along.
It is as if you are going to a pub for years and suddenly you don't fit in anymore. Not only has the pub changed, the people who come there have changed and YOU have changed as well. Time to visit the Golf Club instead. (Where DO old people hang out online?)
I came home with bruises pretty often. Also almost drowned and my bike was left behind and stolen more then once. Having the police over, because somebody made a fire and somebody else named me (I didn't do it that time) was also fun. Luckily my parents were not home and my 12 year old sister send them away. Yes, we were home alone.
I also walked home from and to school. About 2km away. Four times per day. When I was 13, I went to school by public transport without any supervision.
I must be the lucky one for not being raped, killed or worse.
I hate adds since the moment they were around. I always have hated them and not only online. I hate them in the streets. I hate them on TV. I hate them on cars. I hate them on clothes.
And there is no way of turning them off. Except perhaps for North Korea, you will be bombarded by ads. Here a quote that I really like.
People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small.
They make flippant comments from buses that imply you're not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else.
They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it.
They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
Fuck that.
Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It's yours to take, re-arrange and re-use.
You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you.
They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs.
- Banksy
The issue is far worse and all we do is treat it differently because it has "On the internet" in front of it.
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Seriously. I am OK that they are using data for this.
At this moment there is no opt-out, besides not having a cellphone, so why not use it for something else.
That does not mean I agree with the spying.
What shirt does he wear?
With enough marketing people would by Yasos (Yet Another Smartphone OS). People seldom buy an OS, People buy a device with an OS and if given a choice, they will go with what they know.
Most people buy an iPhone or a Samsung. That one is Android and the other is not is not of any importance for them. (Most, not people here on /.)
We have seen this with PCs. We see it with Tablets. So if there is enough marketing towards the OS customers (the manufacturers) people will buy it.
Also: don't forget that there are places where the carriers do not have that much power. (Europe, at least Belgium)
In the pas few thousands of years, humans have always been mobile. And being mobile, I do not just mean walking. I mean moving around all day.
It is only in the past 75 or so years that we have started to do a LOT of nothing. We sit at our desk and the most we walk is to the printer.
Just look at pictures of 75 years ago and see how few cars there were. All these people and so few cars. They either walked, took a bike or at least walked to the train station. And now we have electric toothbrushes and don't stand up to switch channels.
So what has replaced the moving around all day? Nothing. We don't even stand up to go to the phone anymore.
I noticed this when I went sailing with some friends. On a sailing boat on the sea you move around all day when you just want to sit. Otherwise you fall over. The result was that I was aching all over as I used muscles I normally don't use.
Nothing has replaced what we used to do in the last few thousands of years.
All this is possible if you are just willing to use a program that understands the vocal input "Enhance!".
This is European History all over again. You know, where certain villages were allowed to call themselves city and were granted additional rights.
That would make them fit pretty wel with the other crazy countries that have a space program.
Question: Where did the hack came from?
Answer: North Korea
Q: How do you know?
A: Uh, uhm, ah, we saw it pass our routers that were in North Korea.
Could have easily been the NSA themselves. The only thing we do not know for sure is at what moment they started lying about what they know. So it could be 100% true or 100% false.
As such it is useless information.
His party is. So if he does nice things, it is the party. If it turns bad, it is him taking the blame.
So what were they, besides the obvious ones? All I see answers to two questions. Why do you use Apple Hardware? Why do you use Linux?
Both have been discussed to death.
All the things you describe are basically just telling them you do not like it without any consequenses for tjose in power.
Revolution might be something. It does not have to be violent. But first you must look at why it has become so bad. Just replacing the people with the same sort will do nothing. Look as to why has it became so bad?
Is it because of money in politics? So that means lobbying. So you need something that will keep lobbying out.
However for many taking away power from powerfull people might feel as if it is taking away the American Dream where they can become one of those powerfull people.
Almost every step you might want to take would mean becoming more socialist then what you are now in some way or another and as long as that is an issue, not much will change.
Unfortunately I do not have the answer, otherwise I would have given it away. But yes, history has shown that revolution can have a cleaning influence for some time. Some quotes:
It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
-- Henry Ford
In retrospect, all revolutions seem inevitable. Beforehand, all revolutions seem impossible.
-- Michael McFaul,
A non-violent revolution is not a program of seizure of power. It is a program of transformation of relationships, ending in a peaceful transfer of power.
-- Mohandas K. Gandhi,
A revolution is coming â" a revolution which will be peaceful if we are wise enough; compassionate if we care enough; successful if we are fortunate enough â" But a revolution which is coming whether we will it or not. We can affect its character; we cannot alter its inevitability.
-- Robert Kennedy
So? If you watch those shows, you see that they are solved as well. At least 95% of them and 100% if the parents never gve in. Not giving in is the hard part. Then there is the kid that has seriosu mental issues, because it was allowed to go on for too long.
The big differnce is that you are not allowed to kill this kid and make a new one.
Is that still legal in the USofA?
I also overheard a conversation where some cops-in-training where proud on how they learned how to get confessions out of people for things they did not do. Not get the truth out of them. To get confessions for things THEY DID NOT DO.
Country was Belgium.
When I did a reply on Usenet in an anti-abuse newsgroup of a link to childporn. I informed the police. I also informed the media when it wasn't gone after 2 days.
I was asked to come in via the company where I worked and they tried to get me for:
1) Spreading of childporn, because of the reply that still had the URL. (And that is why you must snip on quote correctly on Usenet.) When I told them I send them an email, they explained that their mailserver was broken.
2) The tried to get me for falsification of my identity, because the email-provider did not have my correct address. Like anybody would give out that on some random website.
3) They tried to get me for obstruction of the law, because I spoke to the press. If they would have just send me an autoreply, I would have done nothing. Obviously I had no idea that any investigation was going on. Also: they already KNEW who was the guilty person and were keeping it live just to get higher numbers. As the URL was already out, it ment that they were basically spreading childporn.
4) They called my company from where I had done the posting and told them they needed my information because of a child case abuse.
Luckily the COO was not an idiot and understood after 30 seconds when I told him what I had done and even asked me if he should block the info about who I was and wait for a court order. He could easily do that under Belgian law on the right to privacy. The CEO even offerd to pay for any lawyer if anything would come of it. It never did.
Imagine that this would have been another company. I could have lost my job over someting I was trying to get solved. But then: They do not care. They were clueless and only interested in the numbers, not in stopping spreading those sick, sick, sick images that I can not unsee.
When I left the police station after making clear that I was not afraid and that I did nothing do and they were basically idiots (also leaving me alone with evdence of other cases on the table) they asked me if I would keep the same login in the future. Only later did I realize that I did not know the difference between a login and an email address.
From then on I NEVER saw anything illegal on the Internet anymore. EVER.
So first they can obtain computers. People were upset, but nothing changed and they are able to do it.
Next they were able to put people into Gitmo without due process. People were upset, but nothing changed and they are able to do it.
Now they want to spy even more. People are upset. So what will change now?
And you know if it doesn't work to put it into law this time, it will the next time. People will be upset and nothing will happen.
If your kid steals a cookie and all you do is being upset, it will steal again. Just telling the kid it should not do that is not enough.
The rest of the world doesn't care. They are just as bad and the people just as lazy. And if there are backdoors, just sell them to the other countries. Problem solved.
What I would do is send it via Usenet. Because now they have found the link between sender and receiver. With email if you get one person, you can then start looking for other connections that person made and see where that leads you. This because there is a direct link. Even if they have no idea what it means when you sedn "Grandmother is not feeling well."
With Usenet there is no direct link.
I can send anything from Belgium to my providers Usenet feed and anybody anywhere can pick it up. When I send it I can use images, or just alt.test or whatever group. It can even be something on topic for that group. A reply can be in a completely unrelated group.
To be sure: this ONLY solves the direct link between people. Once they have both sides, it will be identical as if you were sending mail directly.
Now even if they would be able to see who reads alt.test (and all the other groups) it would mean that they would have to monitor everybody. Oh, wait. They do. [waves] "Hi mom!"
I have a PC and a NAS. The NAS holds the data, so it is accessible for other devices. It also has one HD for (incremential) backups for the PC.
Most of the data on the NAS is music, images and movies.
I have these backed up to my PC with rsync.
The backup HD on the NAS is mounted read-write only for root during backup. Otherwise it is read-only.
The backup-HDs for media on my PC are only mounted during backup. Otherwise they are unmounted.
So even though they are not unplugged, they are either read-only or not mounted. Also data is available on two devices. So even if one explodes, the other is still there. No, I do not do offsite backup. If my house burns down, I have bigger issues then data.
In each users directory I have ~/backup/ point to /media/backup/latest/home// so that I can easily get a file back I deleted because human error (99.9% of why you need a restore) with just `cp backup/file.txt ~/.` or do it with mc or anything else.
And what I read is that he did have his backup directories read-write for the users. Read-only for everybody, except root should be the obvious way.
The driectory / existed
And then they take your kids anyway.
As a European, please take a huge rope, tie it around the UK and drag it to the other side of the pool. And if you think you don't have enough space for another country, we will gladly take Canada.
You must be new here (Yeah, I see your number)
1) This type of thing has been going on for a long time
2) People apparently like it, because there are the same amount ofcomments on this then on older subjects like Silk Road Trial Defense: Mt. Gox CEO Was the Real Dread Pirate Roberts
If people would not like it, these things would starve. However the crowd seems to like it. If you don't, move along.
It is as if you are going to a pub for years and suddenly you don't fit in anymore. Not only has the pub changed, the people who come there have changed and YOU have changed as well. Time to visit the Golf Club instead. (Where DO old people hang out online?)
I came home with bruises pretty often. Also almost drowned and my bike was left behind and stolen more then once.
Having the police over, because somebody made a fire and somebody else named me (I didn't do it that time) was also fun.
Luckily my parents were not home and my 12 year old sister send them away. Yes, we were home alone.
I also walked home from and to school. About 2km away. Four times per day. When I was 13, I went to school by public transport without any supervision.
I must be the lucky one for not being raped, killed or worse.
I hate adds since the moment they were around. I always have hated them and not only online. I hate them in the streets. I hate them on TV. I hate them on cars. I hate them on clothes.
And there is no way of turning them off. Except perhaps for North Korea, you will be bombarded by ads. Here a quote that I really like.
People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small.
They make flippant comments from buses that imply you're not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else.
They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it.
They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
Fuck that.
Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It's yours to take, re-arrange and re-use.
You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you.
They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs.
- Banksy
The issue is far worse and all we do is treat it differently because it has "On the internet" in front of it.
The first moment people were alerted was when they killed DejaNews.com But I said nothing, because I was not a Usenet user ...
I have no idea, but my guess is that they do it to make money.