part of *BSD's great strength is the ability to be very usable without a GUI:p. Personally, I don't want X11 creating all kinds of overhead for my already ailing craptastic P2 server;)
Whereas, I'd be a madman for running FreeBSD as an everyday desktop without it:p.... Assuming running FreeBSD as a desktop doesn't already make me quite the madman.
OSX is not UNIX. BSD is not UNIX. Linux is not UNIX. All of these are 'UNIX-like', because of an asinine little technicality:p.
Secondly, OSX is not a BSD. It's core contains BSD code, which keeps the trains running on time. There is also a bit of the core built from the guts of NeXTSTEP and it's Mach Microkernel. Everything above is either Apple, or is owned by Apple. While that particular layer of the OS can pretend to be BSD, and do many of the things that BSD can do, it's really not the same thing.
I can't comment on it bewing lickably-good. I licked my computer once... I still cannot taste sour... at the time I descided to hold off for a while.
By all means, if it floats your boat, get a Mac, they're fine machines. But if you're going to run a BSD, run a full, undiluted BSD. Personally, I'm running FreeBSD right now, and would reccomend it quite highly. But NetBSD and OpenBSD also have their perks. Heck, you'll probably find that you prefer Linux, just because you're so used to the way it does things, and the ways BSD does things are unholy and wrong:p.
I know Linux systems can confuse the hell out of me, but I applaud your willingness to give BSD a try. Because they are so much alike, it can be worse than running an OS that's very much different, because you expect it to do something, and end up getting kicked in the "WTF!?":p.
And Linux is an illegal hacker OS:p, what's the point?
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NetBSD is often used in porting software and OSes to other processors, due to the wide range it runs on.
As a result of the massively postable code though, it has a footprint relatively smaller than most ofther OSes, and tends to be quite fast.
For servers, I'd stick with FreeBSD, and for ultra secure servers, OpenBSD...
Or Linux:p, whatever floats your boat. Hell, you could even use Windows 2003 Server if you've got a few thousand burnig a hole in your pocket and the server isn't too important:D
I'd just like to apologize for the link being bad, I don't know how it happened... I copied it from my browser, and tested it, but somewhere along the lines, I must have not noticed somethign happening.:p, Thanks to the one who posted the link in a comment.
I've read stories (some in Slashdot I believe) of the supposed pipeline the USSR was building to Europe, that 3-4 Megaton explosion in the middle of Siberia. If it happened, the largest non-nuclear explosion in history. If it didn't... well, it did, but no one wants to talk about that embaressing cold war these days:)
ATTN TROLLS: The pipeline was what blew up:p, Not Siberia.
Just because the *BSD's explosive growth is minscule compared to Linux's explosive growth, that hardly means it's dying...
For every 10 Linux users, every 1 has enough sense to fall through the cracks in the Linux Kernel and land in BSD-country (See, we can troll too:D)
Rather, the boom of Linux in recent history has sparked a lot of BSD numebrs to jump too:D... now if only we could get off such dependancies as Linux Compatibility for out Flash plugins, we'd be set as both a Linux-ally, and a Linux competitor...
With 2.5 Million active sites according to Netcraft (Who also run BSD... coincidence? Not really.), *BSD is hardly dead... just too busy disputing the death rumours to really make a show of it's vast and productive life:D
FreeBSD-STABLE still defaults to XFree-4.3, and the option is still open to -CURRENT users... while there won't be as many, there's still a strong choice:D
I wouldn't be suprised if someone does go ahead and throw XFree86-4.4 into the ports tree in the future (and they most certainly cannot in the past.) OpenBSD uses 4.4, and to my knowledge, FreeBSD isn't too concerned about the liscence changes bringing pain and suffering all those on this Earth who use open source software:D (I'm kidding:D Please don't flame me:O)
I personally started out on a Macintosh (Ended after OS 8.5, so you can imaginethat was some time ago *L*), and then took an interest in PCs. I've run all of the Windows OSes post-95... and For well ovr a year, I was stuck with ME (had it been XP/2000 and 98SE, I may still be a windows user today... but I think I would've prefered DOS to ME.)
And now, I use FreeBSD:D. As a *nix n00b, it was absolutely incredibly easy to set up and use... and after about a third of a year at it, I have my FreeBSD 5.2.1 machine up, running, updated sources and ports, and all the things my Windows machien could do (except Battlefield Vietnam... oh how I miss gunning down hordes of Communists,... aside from the critisisms of Friends in family "ie, YOU are a Communist.")
Anyways, the point I'm getting to, is that although I prefer BSD highly to Linux, when I originally switched to Linux (before BSD), I found it difficult, andthe only dostro I could get up and running properly was Mandrake (and KNOPPIX, but Live-CD was something I didn't want to do permanenty:P, Red Hats post 7.3 -detested- my CD-ROM drive of the day)... and after this time with FreeBSD, I am comfortabel at any *nix machine, whether it be BSD, Gentoo, or "other".
I'm sure people have mentioned it... Gentoo [gentoo.org], If I were to head back into Linux country (and I just may thanks to it...), I'd go Gentoo. The installation is painful for a newbie, but the benefits are grand indeed:D
I've had THREE eMachines, beautiful machines (for an enduser who doesn;t want to do anything too massive), but if you're going to try to upgrade one, you're not going to have much luck:P...
It's a far better website to reference than Emcahine's website:P... And i was interested to know that my motherboardwas built in Korea (I still maintain that it must have been the north, after I couldn't get that Radeon 7000 PCI to do ANYTHING.)
And for you Linux users, The eMonster 600 did Mandrake 9.0 as well as I could get it to run *L*
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I'll have to also disagree,
:p. Personally, I don't want X11 creating all kinds of overhead for my already ailing craptastic P2 server ;)
:p. ... Assuming running FreeBSD as a desktop doesn't already make me quite the madman.
part of *BSD's great strength is the ability to be very usable without a GUI
Whereas, I'd be a madman for running FreeBSD as an everyday desktop without it
Not to troll (But I probably will), but,
:p.
:p.
:p.
OSX is not UNIX. BSD is not UNIX. Linux is not UNIX. All of these are 'UNIX-like', because of an asinine little technicality
Secondly, OSX is not a BSD. It's core contains BSD code, which keeps the trains running on time. There is also a bit of the core built from the guts of NeXTSTEP and it's Mach Microkernel. Everything above is either Apple, or is owned by Apple. While that particular layer of the OS can pretend to be BSD, and do many of the things that BSD can do, it's really not the same thing.
I can't comment on it bewing lickably-good. I licked my computer once... I still cannot taste sour... at the time I descided to hold off for a while.
By all means, if it floats your boat, get a Mac, they're fine machines. But if you're going to run a BSD, run a full, undiluted BSD. Personally, I'm running FreeBSD right now, and would reccomend it quite highly. But NetBSD and OpenBSD also have their perks. Heck, you'll probably find that you prefer Linux, just because you're so used to the way it does things, and the ways BSD does things are unholy and wrong
I know Linux systems can confuse the hell out of me, but I applaud your willingness to give BSD a try. Because they are so much alike, it can be worse than running an OS that's very much different, because you expect it to do something, and end up getting kicked in the "WTF!?"
And Linux is an illegal hacker OS :p, what's the point?
NetBSD is often used in porting software and OSes to other processors, due to the wide range it runs on.
:p, whatever floats your boat. Hell, you could even use Windows 2003 Server if you've got a few thousand burnig a hole in your pocket and the server isn't too important :D
As a result of the massively postable code though, it has a footprint relatively smaller than most ofther OSes, and tends to be quite fast.
For servers, I'd stick with FreeBSD, and for ultra secure servers, OpenBSD...
Or Linux
Amen. When my fd0 drive roared to life, it made my life :D. Prior to BETA5, I've never had it working with FreeBSD 5.x
I'd just like to apologize for the link being bad, I don't know how it happened... I copied it from my browser, and tested it, but somewhere along the lines, I must have not noticed somethign happening. :p, Thanks to the one who posted the link in a comment.
Really? wow, I really had that overdone :p. Then again, I thought Hiroshima was 4-5 Megatons...
Oh well, the idea is still clear enough. Big explosions can be the cause of big, big accidents.
I've read stories (some in Slashdot I believe) of the supposed pipeline the USSR was building to Europe, that 3-4 Megaton explosion in the middle of Siberia. If it happened, the largest non-nuclear explosion in history. If it didn't... well, it did, but no one wants to talk about that embaressing cold war these days :)
:p, Not Siberia.
ATTN TROLLS: The pipeline was what blew up
Just because the *BSD's explosive growth is minscule compared to Linux's explosive growth, that hardly means it's dying...
:D)
:D... now if only we could get off such dependancies as Linux Compatibility for out Flash plugins, we'd be set as both a Linux-ally, and a Linux competitor...
:D
For every 10 Linux users, every 1 has enough sense to fall through the cracks in the Linux Kernel and land in BSD-country (See, we can troll too
Rather, the boom of Linux in recent history has sparked a lot of BSD numebrs to jump too
With 2.5 Million active sites according to Netcraft (Who also run BSD... coincidence? Not really.), *BSD is hardly dead... just too busy disputing the death rumours to really make a show of it's vast and productive life
FreeBSD-STABLE still defaults to XFree-4.3, and the option is still open to -CURRENT users... while there won't be as many, there's still a strong choice :D
:D (I'm kidding :D Please don't flame me :O)
I wouldn't be suprised if someone does go ahead and throw XFree86-4.4 into the ports tree in the future (and they most certainly cannot in the past.)
OpenBSD uses 4.4, and to my knowledge, FreeBSD isn't too concerned about the liscence changes bringing pain and suffering all those on this Earth who use open source software
I personally started out on a Macintosh (Ended after OS 8.5, so you can imaginethat was some time ago *L*), and then took an interest in PCs. I've run all of the Windows OSes post-95... and For well ovr a year, I was stuck with ME (had it been XP/2000 and 98SE, I may still be a windows user today... but I think I would've prefered DOS to ME.)
:D. As a *nix n00b, it was absolutely incredibly easy to set up and use... and after about a third of a year at it, I have my FreeBSD 5.2.1 machine up, running, updated sources and ports, and all the things my Windows machien could do (except Battlefield Vietnam... oh how I miss gunning down hordes of Communists,... aside from the critisisms of Friends in family "ie, YOU are a Communist.")
:P, Red Hats post 7.3 -detested- my CD-ROM drive of the day)... and after this time with FreeBSD, I am comfortabel at any *nix machine, whether it be BSD, Gentoo, or "other".
:D
And now, I use FreeBSD
Anyways, the point I'm getting to, is that although I prefer BSD highly to Linux, when I originally switched to Linux (before BSD), I found it difficult, andthe only dostro I could get up and running properly was Mandrake (and KNOPPIX, but Live-CD was something I didn't want to do permanenty
I'm sure people have mentioned it... Gentoo [gentoo.org], If I were to head back into Linux country (and I just may thanks to it...), I'd go Gentoo. The installation is painful for a newbie, but the benefits are grand indeed
http://www.e4allinc.info/
:P...
:P... And i was interested to know that my motherboardwas built in Korea (I still maintain that it must have been the north, after I couldn't get that Radeon 7000 PCI to do ANYTHING.)
This is the "Unofficial eMachines Info page"
I've had THREE eMachines, beautiful machines (for an enduser who doesn;t want to do anything too massive), but if you're going to try to upgrade one, you're not going to have much luck
It's a far better website to reference than Emcahine's website
And for you Linux users, The eMonster 600 did Mandrake 9.0 as well as I could get it to run *L*