Haven't you gotten the memo? Smart people nowadays think decreasing efficiency and spending as much time as is humanly possible on one task puts the fun back in economics. Don't write yourself off, embrace your inner smartness!
grow your own damn food then. I hear Canada is really sparsly populated. I doubt anyone would mind if you carved yourself some piece of the wilderness and started subsidence farming (which btw is sooo much more fun than being "exploited" within a capitalistic economy. make your own hours, yeah!)
just confirming that we are talking about the same people here:
furs: people emulating animals emulating sex with other people-animals. Craziness comes 'round full circle when they then humanize those animals by setting them up with motives, thoughts, emotions and language. Sure, live and let live and all but them I'll ridicule 'till the day I die.
nazis: people who thinks that hitlers policies where pretty neat. Jew-Hating, nationalistic, racists, holocaust-denying skin-heads.
I'm sorry, but nazis are pretty much the rudes bunch of 'em all and I'll not have my tolerance shelter those who are (for the most part) violently opposed to it.
The point I'm trying to make: people are not equally sane or intelligent and neither are their ideas. There are harmless, quirky, disgusting, immoral, hatefull etc. ones. Not all concepts/ideologies/kinks are equally shiny.
Well, considering furs and neonazis makes me rightfully feel superior. After all, I am superior to them. Those two groups should care a little about what most people think of them. That's life, multi-dimensional. Absolutly not considering social feedback is about equally useless as seeking approval from everyone on everything.
Still mysteries in the 'verse? Are you kidding? You are like a first grader, first day at school "I'm sure glad there is more to learn after kindergarten".
It like to be shown one person that got rewarded in WoW for spending time. Actually it's the other way around: coordinated groups of skilled people get molten core done in 3-5 hours and receive more rewards (killing all bosses = more drops) than the "improvers" who spend 20 hours bickering and not getting the very basic concepts of teamplay in this world.
you make extortion look easy! But lets not kid ourselves, *everybody* is gonna tell the oracel rep "bullshit! go f*** youself" and thats that. The GPL is quite easy to understand, so much so that if a suit really where brought, you could send the kid at the coffeemaker to see the judge tell Oracle to get the hell out of his court room.
Creating something out of nothing would violate thermodynamics in the sense that it would increase the total energy (mass = energy) of the universe and decrease entrophy.
This is the reason you can't consume more than you produce.
The mind, it boggels. You can't use more than you have without violating the laws of thermodynamics. It's when you use exactly what you have that you run out, sooner or later. That's the basic issue with natural resources, too: Unless you completely stop consuming them, you'll run out, sooner or later. But then, not using them is equivalent to running out. So why should I stop now, instead of waiting until I've run out?
Who gives two shits? In 10 years I want my all-in-one device (TV, PC, Cell, xbox) to be no larger than any of my keys. The only way for this to happen is if the screen does not need to be physical (ie. through projection). I could not care less about what dorks do in public transport, I got a car, you know;)
This is not about the muslim worlds rightueos struggle against the oppression of the imperial west. If they wanted to struggle for a just cause, maybe they should be fighting against there despotic regimes that use Islam to justify oppression and violent suppression of dissenters and women. Also those same regimes are the ones actually "exploiting" the oil they're sitting on top of, in the sense that the oil extraction is state-run, ineffective and wasteful and *only* benefit the ruling elites, either by financing their extravagant life styles (how many palaces did Saddam build?) or ambitious military projects (atom bomb, any one?) or a enourmos secret police (hello saudi arabia, syria, lybia!).
If you are now going to alledge that the US often puts stability of the region above the core principles of freedom, I'd have to agree. But that hardly justifies painting the States as the devil.
the point of answering violence with violence is to eliminate the attacker and so end the struggle. Setting an embassy on fire is an act of war. Personally, I'd think it would have been quite appropriate to set the rioters on fire in return.
do you happen to post to SA/Debate and Discussion as well?
Anyways, I think you are right with the assesment that islam still needs to have a phase of enlightment where the broader public realizes that multiple ideas can coexists and that my atheism does not take away from your believe (whatever it may be). I'm just really scared of the struggle that will arise from this maturation, fought with modern weapons. A sword, or even a medival cannon is harmless compared to todays conventional, biological, chemical or atomic weapons.
Have you even seen the cartoons? I doubt it, or you couldn't have drawn a parallel to anything racist. Radical muslims could take a page from the message of those caricatures: islamic terrorism is destroying the thing it's supposed to be fighting for. Islam.
drop bombs on innocent civilians in a country that posed no harm, and boastfully talk of 'shock and awe';
Fly planes into... nevermind. Which country did not pose harm? Are you talking about Afghanistan? Hmm, I wonder what Afghan women thought about that! Or, of course, everybody that didn't follow the state-sanctioned doctrine and got themselves a bullet for the trouble. But of course, it's the same in the west, right? Opinions such as yours a silenced by US-Army guns and tanks, right?
Irag maybe? Remember Kuwait? Gasing of the Kurds? Harmless? Sure!
Whats important to remember though: Allah is great and societies that are based on state-enforced religiousness, intolerance, oppression, hatred and violence towards their own populance are moraly equivalent or even superior to the west!
shoot their children in the face as part of an organized program to steal their lands;
Yes, the tactics of Hamas et al are despicable! Wouldn't have expected this insight from you!
# imprison their wives and daughters as hostages;
Even if true and not just some sentimental appeal on your part, what's the difference? There is a case to be made that muslin women are better of in western jails than they are in their own culture. At least they'd be more free, and you know wouldn't get killed for being raped (an occurance which, for all the talk about religion is much more prevalant there).
# chop down the olive trees that have supported their families for hundreds of years;
"USS Abraham Lincoln, this is Delta Chop Alpha One, please confirm the Operation "No more Olive branch" is a go!" Are you fucking kidding me?
# lock up their young men by the hundreds of even thousands after September 11, unconstitutionally and illegally, and quietly release them months later rather than admit it was all a racist program of profiling;
The constitution doesn't apply to anything happening outside the US. Also, it's an excellent idea to provide a disencentive for gurillia fighters: No uniform, no rights under the geneva convention.
fire a tank shell into a group of their children, and call it a 'mistake';
Blow youself up on a civilian bus and call it heroism! I wonder, which of the two cost more lifes so far?
set up torture centers to brutalize and humiliate mostly innocent civilians, and continue doing it after photographs of some of the least outrageous acts are shown;
"toture centers"? Oh right, like Abu Graib, formerly known as "Saddams Happy Fun Park". Loud music and getting you dick grabed by a girl just doesn't compare to beheadings, the cutting off of hands and beatings-till-you-are-dead. But never forget: Iraq was totally harmless and the people sitting in detention centers right now are randomly picked from the streets for looking like Aereabs!
But still, I agree with part of what you are saying: there should be trails, with impartial judges and competant counsel.
# drop bombs on apartment buildings on the chance that some political enemy you are illegally targeting might possibly be there;
Fly planes into buildings, rig subways with bombs, blow yourself up with no goal except: kill all "westerners". Inflicting civilian deaths is so much better when it's intended, right?
# set up food distribution for the poor, tauntingly featuring soup made of pork;
# surround them with walls to formalize the theft of land from them and make it impossible for them to have a state.
Yeah, gifts that I don't like give me all the excuses I need to commit any crime! I totally symphazie! Didn't like pants you aunty gave you for christm
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Crap. I'm sorry: www.openoffice.org - reads and writes all microsoft office formats. If developers wanted to create platform independant applications it sure isn't Microsoft that's stopping them: http://www.trolltech.com/, http://www.cygwin.com/. Platform independance is just very pricy, a problem that's no being caused by Microsoft.
>As for barriers to entry, Microsoft's illegal "monopoly abusing" deals for OEMs give one
They said: "If you start carring other operating systems, we won't sell you ours anymore". Sure, not the best thing to happen from the consumer point of view, but illegal or immoral? Hardly. My girlfriend tells me "sleep with an other woman and you'll never see me nacked again". Is she abusing her monopoly? See, there are no close substitutes, as she is just really very fine and all. One could say her body is my de-facto standard when it comes to sex. Also, market entry for other girls is prohibitivly expensive, I just don't know how to deal with them. Should I sue her because she reserves the right to sleep with me on her own terms?
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see, it's really a drag that we can't redefine words as we like. A monopoly means being the sole supplier of something:
# (economics) a market in which there are many buyers but only one seller; "a monopoly on silver"; "when you have a monopoly you can ask any price you like" # exclusive control or possession of something; "They have no monopoly on intelligence" # a board game in which players try to gain a monopoly on real estate as pieces advance around the board according to the throw of a die wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
# In economics, a monopoly (from the Greek monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a kind of product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
If the judges really had found microsoft guilty of being a monopoly (instead of say, violating obscure anti-trust regulations) they'd be in error, no matter how often they'd judged wrongly.
I mean, I'm sure it pleasures you that I'm stuck with my miserable radio uplink and all, but I've got feelings too you know. Next you'll be telling me how much you resent waiting for that shiny new cabel connection you've just ordered. Try waiting on an 9600 baud uplink for ever, like I have to.
You really don't know the pains of surfing like this. First of all, I never ever get first post, it sucks. And then, have you ever tried to modify any TCP/IP implementation so you can set TTL to a whole week? Didn't think so. So, you know, be a little tactful, if it's all the same to you.
There are a few answers like yours. All of you, I like to ask to give three characteristics that describe earth. If these are "rocky, dense and between the size of mars and venus" you either don't get out much or you don't understand what "describe" means.
It surely is common assumption that there will be many, many, many planets out there. It's also quite probable that the number of planets in our universe that are rocky, dense and not the size of jupiter is so high that even the two highest numbers we both could spell out to the power of each other, reversed and mulitpled wouldn't even come close.
Saying earthlike to describe a medium sized rock is like saying needlelike to describe hay.
given the choice, I'd much rather have the engine tweaked to conceal embarassments of a single company than an entire nation. Nothing at google concerncs me, as long as I can proof that Gehard Schroeder lied in his last campain.
Also, states have already demonstrated their murdering, lying and cheating nature in a way that makes the enron scandal look like cookie stealing in comparision. So what will I choose? Definitiv or potential Evil?
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Haven't you gotten the memo? Smart people nowadays think decreasing efficiency and spending as much time as is humanly possible on one task puts the fun back in economics. Don't write yourself off, embrace your inner smartness!
grow your own damn food then. I hear Canada is really sparsly populated. I doubt anyone would mind if you carved yourself some piece of the wilderness and started subsidence farming (which btw is sooo much more fun than being "exploited" within a capitalistic economy. make your own hours, yeah!)
just confirming that we are talking about the same people here:
furs: people emulating animals emulating sex with other people-animals. Craziness comes 'round full circle when they then humanize those animals by setting them up with motives, thoughts, emotions and language.
Sure, live and let live and all but them I'll ridicule 'till the day I die.
nazis: people who thinks that hitlers policies where pretty neat. Jew-Hating, nationalistic, racists, holocaust-denying skin-heads.
I'm sorry, but nazis are pretty much the rudes bunch of 'em all and I'll not have my tolerance shelter those who are (for the most part) violently opposed to it.
The point I'm trying to make: people are not equally sane or intelligent and neither are their ideas. There are harmless, quirky, disgusting, immoral, hatefull etc. ones. Not all concepts/ideologies/kinks are equally shiny.
Well, considering furs and neonazis makes me rightfully feel superior. After all, I am superior to them. Those two groups should care a little about what most people think of them. That's life, multi-dimensional. Absolutly not considering social feedback is about equally useless as seeking approval from everyone on everything.
wow, you are great! No really.
btw, how can is it possible to change / to something abitrary on linux?
... only 30% to go. Let's not slack off now ...
Still mysteries in the 'verse? Are you kidding? You are like a first grader, first day at school "I'm sure glad there is more to learn after kindergarten".
It like to be shown one person that got rewarded in WoW for spending time. Actually it's the other way around: coordinated groups of skilled people get molten core done in 3-5 hours and receive more rewards (killing all bosses = more drops) than the "improvers" who spend 20 hours bickering and not getting the very basic concepts of teamplay in this world.
WERDEST is not a german word. Change it to WIRST. Then your sig means "you'll need a nurse!".
you make extortion look easy! But lets not kid ourselves, *everybody* is gonna tell the oracel rep "bullshit! go f*** youself" and thats that. The GPL is quite easy to understand, so much so that if a suit really where brought, you could send the kid at the coffeemaker to see the judge tell Oracle to get the hell out of his court room.
People consume more than they produce, otherwise we wouldn't be running out of stuff.
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Creating something out of nothing would violate thermodynamics in the sense that it would increase the total energy (mass = energy) of the universe and decrease entrophy.
This is the reason you can't consume more than you produce.
The mind, it boggels. You can't use more than you have without violating the laws of thermodynamics. It's when you use exactly what you have that you run out, sooner or later. That's the basic issue with natural resources, too: Unless you completely stop consuming them, you'll run out, sooner or later. But then, not using them is equivalent to running out. So why should I stop now, instead of waiting until I've run out?
Who gives two shits? In 10 years I want my all-in-one device (TV, PC, Cell, xbox) to be no larger than any of my keys. The only way for this to happen is if the screen does not need to be physical (ie. through projection). I could not care less about what dorks do in public transport, I got a car, you know ;)
This is not about the muslim worlds rightueos struggle against the oppression of the imperial west. If they wanted to struggle for a just cause, maybe they should be fighting against there despotic regimes that use Islam to justify oppression and violent suppression of dissenters and women. Also those same regimes are the ones actually "exploiting" the oil they're sitting on top of, in the sense that the oil extraction is state-run, ineffective and wasteful and *only* benefit the ruling elites, either by financing their extravagant life styles (how many palaces did Saddam build?) or ambitious military projects (atom bomb, any one?) or a enourmos secret police (hello saudi arabia, syria, lybia!).
If you are now going to alledge that the US often puts stability of the region above the core principles of freedom, I'd have to agree. But that hardly justifies painting the States as the devil.
the point of answering violence with violence is to eliminate the attacker and so end the struggle. Setting an embassy on fire is an act of war. Personally, I'd think it would have been quite appropriate to set the rioters on fire in return.
do you happen to post to SA/Debate and Discussion as well?
Anyways, I think you are right with the assesment that islam still needs to have a phase of enlightment where the broader public realizes that multiple ideas can coexists and that my atheism does not take away from your believe (whatever it may be). I'm just really scared of the struggle that will arise from this maturation, fought with modern weapons. A sword, or even a medival cannon is harmless compared to todays conventional, biological, chemical or atomic weapons.
It's funny how you blame the west and invoke Orwell when the Middle East is just showing us their 3-week-hate.
This conflict isn't instigated by us and in the west, no one has to gain from it.
Have you even seen the cartoons? I doubt it, or you couldn't have drawn a parallel to anything racist. Radical muslims could take a page from the message of those caricatures: islamic terrorism is destroying the thing it's supposed to be fighting for. Islam.
... nevermind. Which country did not pose harm? Are you talking about Afghanistan? Hmm, I wonder what Afghan women thought about that! Or, of course, everybody that didn't follow the state-sanctioned doctrine and got themselves a bullet for the trouble. But of course, it's the same in the west, right? Opinions such as yours a silenced by US-Army guns and tanks, right?
drop bombs on innocent civilians in a country that posed no harm, and boastfully talk of 'shock and awe';
Fly planes into
Irag maybe? Remember Kuwait? Gasing of the Kurds? Harmless? Sure!
Whats important to remember though: Allah is great and societies that are based on state-enforced religiousness, intolerance, oppression, hatred and violence towards their own populance are moraly equivalent or even superior to the west!
shoot their children in the face as part of an organized program to steal their lands;
Yes, the tactics of Hamas et al are despicable! Wouldn't have expected this insight from you!
# imprison their wives and daughters as hostages;
Even if true and not just some sentimental appeal on your part, what's the difference? There is a case to be made that muslin women are better of in western jails than they are in their own culture. At least they'd be more free, and you know wouldn't get killed for being raped (an occurance which, for all the talk about religion is much more prevalant there).
# chop down the olive trees that have supported their families for hundreds of years;
"USS Abraham Lincoln, this is Delta Chop Alpha One, please confirm the Operation "No more Olive branch" is a go!"
Are you fucking kidding me?
# lock up their young men by the hundreds of even thousands after September 11, unconstitutionally and illegally, and quietly release them months later rather than admit it was all a racist program of profiling;
The constitution doesn't apply to anything happening outside the US. Also, it's an excellent idea to provide a disencentive for gurillia fighters: No uniform, no rights under the geneva convention.
fire a tank shell into a group of their children, and call it a 'mistake';
Blow youself up on a civilian bus and call it heroism! I wonder, which of the two cost more lifes so far?
set up torture centers to brutalize and humiliate mostly innocent civilians, and continue doing it after photographs of some of the least outrageous acts are shown;
"toture centers"? Oh right, like Abu Graib, formerly known as "Saddams Happy Fun Park". Loud music and getting you dick grabed by a girl just doesn't compare to beheadings, the cutting off of hands and beatings-till-you-are-dead. But never forget: Iraq was totally harmless and the people sitting in detention centers right now are randomly picked from the streets for looking like Aereabs!
But still, I agree with part of what you are saying: there should be trails, with impartial judges and competant counsel.
# drop bombs on apartment buildings on the chance that some political enemy you are illegally targeting might possibly be there;
Fly planes into buildings, rig subways with bombs, blow yourself up with no goal except: kill all "westerners". Inflicting civilian deaths is so much better when it's intended, right?
# set up food distribution for the poor, tauntingly featuring soup made of pork; # surround them with walls to formalize the theft of land from them and make it impossible for them to have a state.
Yeah, gifts that I don't like give me all the excuses I need to commit any crime! I totally symphazie! Didn't like pants you aunty gave you for christm
Crap. I'm sorry: www.openoffice.org - reads and writes all microsoft office formats. If developers wanted to create platform independant applications it sure isn't Microsoft that's stopping them: http://www.trolltech.com/, http://www.cygwin.com/. Platform independance is just very pricy, a problem that's no being caused by Microsoft.
>As for barriers to entry, Microsoft's illegal "monopoly abusing" deals for OEMs give one
They said: "If you start carring other operating systems, we won't sell you ours anymore". Sure, not the best thing to happen from the consumer point of view, but illegal or immoral? Hardly. My girlfriend tells me "sleep with an other woman and you'll never see me nacked again". Is she abusing her monopoly? See, there are no close substitutes, as she is just really very fine and all. One could say her body is my de-facto standard when it comes to sex. Also, market entry for other girls is prohibitivly expensive, I just don't know how to deal with them. Should I sue her because she reserves the right to sleep with me on her own terms?
see, it's really a drag that we can't redefine words as we like. A monopoly means being the sole supplier of something:
# (economics) a market in which there are many buyers but only one seller; "a monopoly on silver"; "when you have a monopoly you can ask any price you like"
# exclusive control or possession of something; "They have no monopoly on intelligence"
# a board game in which players try to gain a monopoly on real estate as pieces advance around the board according to the throw of a die
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
# In economics, a monopoly (from the Greek monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a kind of product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
If the judges really had found microsoft guilty of being a monopoly (instead of say, violating obscure anti-trust regulations) they'd be in error, no matter how often they'd judged wrongly.
Microsoft has a monopoly? Thats rich! Of what are they the sole supplier?
yeah yeah, thanks for mocking me there, pal.
I mean, I'm sure it pleasures you that I'm stuck with my miserable radio uplink and all, but I've got feelings too you know. Next you'll be telling me how much you resent waiting for that shiny new cabel connection you've just ordered. Try waiting on an 9600 baud uplink for ever, like I have to.
You really don't know the pains of surfing like this. First of all, I never ever get first post, it sucks. And then, have you ever tried to modify any TCP/IP implementation so you can set TTL to a whole week? Didn't think so. So, you know, be a little tactful, if it's all the same to you.
There are a few answers like yours. All of you, I like to ask to give three characteristics that describe earth.
If these are "rocky, dense and between the size of mars and venus" you either don't get out much or you don't understand what "describe" means.
It surely is common assumption that there will be many, many, many planets out there. It's also quite probable that the number of planets in our universe that are rocky, dense and not the size of jupiter is so high that even the two highest numbers we both could spell out to the power of each other, reversed and mulitpled wouldn't even come close.
Saying earthlike to describe a medium sized rock is like saying needlelike to describe hay.
given the choice, I'd much rather have the engine tweaked to conceal embarassments of a single company than an entire nation. Nothing at google concerncs me, as long as I can proof that Gehard Schroeder lied in his last campain.
Also, states have already demonstrated their murdering, lying and cheating nature in a way that makes the enron scandal look like cookie stealing in comparision. So what will I choose? Definitiv or potential Evil?