The GM loans were meant to bridge GM in an economic crisis, and allow it to go through bankruptcy reorganization without having to layoff tens, if not hundreds of thousands of employees and allied tradespeople. The Huawei loan is for development, to expand into new business. Both are completely acceptable forms of industrial policy; the difference between China and the US is that China actually has an industrial policy and seems to make loans, grants and government procurement in a systematic way to favor internal Chinese development, whereas the US just spends this money when it's an emergency, willy-nilly, on whoever is contributing to political campaigns, or who is running full-page "woe is us and our employees" ads in the Washington Post that week.
The US government used to have the nerve to actually make positive law that favored US business and development, but certain strains of neoliberal thought make policy leaders get all meta about the role of the state and unwilling to make plans, even though our people still demand our leaders take action in emergencies.
Or, sorry to beat around the bush, but, I think it's arguable that it's simply not possible to offer cellphone handsets on a generic hardware platform, with PC hardware competition, diversity and profit margins, and a 2nd-party OS that is written and steered by its own agendas (open or otherwise), while at the same time making a phone that actually addresses people's wants and needs as well as something that just comes, complete and full integrated, of a vertical assembly line. This certainly seems to be the tack HP has taken with WebOS and Motorola may still take. It's not working for RIM but RIM's been simply making a subpar product for the last several years. People seem to like the Nexus phones best, there's a reason for that -- Google gets so much say over them they really aren't 3rd party phones anymore.
For mass market desktop PCs or laptops, vertical integration hasn't historically been as sustainable (Apple does it now but wasn't always so lucky), and observing that a vertically-integrated, single-sourced phone platform can address people's needs better isn't the same as saying closed computing addresses peoples needs better than open computing, or that Apple now has a free hand to take over the world, or that tyranny wins. These are over-generalizations based on the flawed idea that a phone is "just a computer."
It's not like we offer open hardware platforms for things like radios or washing machines, letting different vendors and partners construct them as they please and enabling the end user easy hacking -- an appliance toaster from Krupp and no one else will always beat an Android toaster with user-customizable filaments. Just because a phone is a little computer doesn't mean people need or want it to do everything on their desk does, and any compromise made to chase the desktop ideal can weigh the products down against integrated competition.
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What we need now is the creation of standardized and open handset form factors and open handset hardware which is also to a degree standardized.
The Android platform is a defacto hardware standard. This hardware really isn't that sophisticated -- ARM cores, common chipsets, Android can be made to run on an iPhone after all, there's really no barrier to a manufacturer, as long as they use ARM.
Android handset manufacturers have it a bit better with a common OS, but they still have to churn out a new device practically every few months to remain relevant. [...] Only problem with Apple is that they are only in it for themselves and do not like the idea of giving their users true choice.
"Churning out" a new device every few months is the way manufacturers provide "true choice." You can either buy the 4G phone with a kickstand and an undeleteable Blockbuster app, or a Sprint phone with a hardware keyboard and is locked to Eclair, or a slider with MOTOBLUR. And none of these ever get their software updated without an act of congress, thus justifying the next phone in the churn cycle. Behold consumer choice.
Apple succeeds at remaining relevant, as you say, probably because their product and platform maps to consumer demand very well, and their platform doesn't try to recreate the, uh, "dynamism and competition" of the Wintel PC market, circa 1995 (an era in the history of computing I would consider one big, abominable mistake). Of course Apple is "only in it for themselves," unlike the well-known altruists at Samsung and Google.
The RIM tablet version 1.0 was unable to access email without tethering.
They think the tablet is just a peripheral of the phone. Apple spent a long time thinking iPhones are a peripheral of iTunes and have only very recently changed their tune. Of course, iTunes is a free computer program you download off the internet and a BB smartphone is an expensive smartphone... Okay so maybe they aren't thinking.
Time to parter with Microsoft or face the Abyss.
Or Google? Seems like an Android, customized for BES might be a spicy meatball in this market. Ya know, iPhone-competitive handset software with Blackberry-level corporate administration, no weird Apple procurement issues, etc...
Of course, it was a good idea they shoulda had two years ago, before they committed to QNX and their particular strategy, and the last several years of fog and fail.
As it is, it's not "time" for them to partner with anybody, as they aren't going to have new phones out until spring 2012 as it is. The time for partnering has passed, and announcing a new platform now would push that to winter, and RIMs strategic roadmap into Osborne territory.
Gecko does not support MP3 in HTML for exactly the same reason it doesn't support H.264 in : it's patent-encumbered and you have to pay licensing fees to use it.
They could just divert and use the codecs that are included with the OS and already licensed by the OS vendor, be he Microsoft or Apple, and that would cover 90% of cases. However, they probably wouldn't do that because it would make the Linux version less competitive by comparison, because many Linuxes don't have codecs or they're an additional install, and Mozilla would rather have an equal less-functional playing field between the ports of Gecko/Firefox than have versions that competed with each other on features. They also have an ideological commitment to give patented formats no quarter or support, unless they meet some definition of "open" they're comfortable with, like WebM.
Note that if this law had passed, and in other jurisdictions where these laws are in effect, undercover journalism that impacts the business of a farm can be prosecuted as terrorism, given the underlying illegality of the videotaping.
What's funny is that common sense tells us that its obviously risible that people would care about the humane treatment of an animal, when it's just going to get its brains blasted out by a captive bolt gun, but when people do see videos of feedlots with cowshit up the cow's knees, or pigs getting gutted on an assembly line while alive and conscious, they get really upset. And justifiably.
The closed iPhone store is a great advantage to have when you sell phones to morons.
No flames there.
(and to be fair, as the latest Mercedes commercials featuring drivers crediting the car for bailing them out from being idiot drivers demonstrates, it's not just in electronics).
You're right, we'd all be better off if these people and their passengers were dead, or better yet, quadriplegics on disability.
If Apple wants to market their phones to morons by basically saying "don't worry, we'll protect you from your own stupidity,"
God grant me the serenity to accept the stupidity we cannot change, the courage to change the stupidity I can, and the wisdom to not consign people who don't meet my standard of intelligence to ruin, misery, and death.
Oh, that's right. I knew that, I just didn't look at the author name.
I've always had this sort of irrational hostility to that Greenspun law, it seems to encapsulate everything I hate about developer over-generalization, in a smug language-weenie wrapper.
While DSD samples higher, the band over 20kHz is definitely subject to much more THD and noise than the lower band (I think in Sony's materials they specifically state that SACDs ho-hum ~90dB THD+N numbers only apply from 20 to 20k), and the higher freqs can create certain impressions of "space around the instruments" and localization, attributes highly prized by audiophiles, there's a lot of debate over wether these effects are completely accurate and not just caused by noise shaping, or if they make much difference at all for any recording made with normal +-3dB 30kHz microphones, or are just artifacts of non-coincident mic capsule mixing.
As someone who works in a studio, I can only say that what generally want from the equipment is simplicity and clarity -- you want control and you don't want a lot of extraneous gear adding its own little flavor to the operation.
Audiophiles really see their setup as a kind of musical instrument. They like how the tubes affect the sound, in the same way that violinists or guitarists experiment by sticking stuff in their resonant cavity. Audiophiles get a certain sort of solace from knowing the cables come from a single crystal of copper (whatever that precisely means), in the same way that a saxophone player might seek out unusual wood for a reed, on the recommendation of a friend or some respected genius of saxophoning. Many audiophiles say they want the pure recording but what they really work toward is a certain sort of enhanced listening experience, something that's more than what's on the recording.
Again, as a professional I'd point out that "more" is by definition "not as accurate," but there are many different ways to define "good," and "accurate" is a very restricted one.
Oversampling on the A/D converter would "push the filters ultrasonic," among other things, depending on what kind of A/D we're talking about -- quant noise from delta-sigma A/D goes down as sample rate goes up, and by design a delta-sigma has to have a significantly higher rate than an integrating A/D in order to get the same dynamic range for the equivalent passband.
Oversampling on the D/A converter, like in an Odd-Lots CD player, is a marketing term used by manufacturers to try to differentiate their 1 bit delta-sigma D/A converters, which must oversample by design, and people like seeing the word "over-" associated with a product; it makes it seem like they're getting something extra, and though 1-bit MASH DAs can sound a lot better than some other DAs they're still a low-end solution.
That's not fair, object orientation isn't strictly a language feature, it's also a generic pattern. Gobject is a C library but is object-oriented. Most object-oriented scripting languages are implemented in an underlying object-oriented C. Method(object, arg1,...) and object->Method(arg1,...) are equivalent, particularly if object is an opaque type not in the header.
We could even cite the crazier case of Objective C or Objective J[avascript], where every method call becomes a call to a runtime of msgSend(object, methodNumber, args...).
This seems like a total hackaround to force a language into a box it wasn't meant to fit in, though in the case of Objective-C, objc_msgSend() is implemented in a few dozen lines of ASM and can be compiled to a direct dispatch for the non-dynamic case.
it would be better to go with a nationalized healthcare system where doctors work for the government and do not need to bill their procedures at all
Hopefully they will get paid according to some scheme where they get more for doing more, better, and more specialized work. Oh wait, we already do that now.
and they would not need malpractice insurance at all, as long term injuries caused by errors would be dealt with through the existing public benefits system and medical costs incurred due to errors would be moot since medical costs would not fall upon the patient in the first place
Hmmmmm.... no. Still need punitive damages and compensation for lost income and quality of life.
For every dollar we spend on a Medicare patient, we are reimbursed 60-70 cents.We have to make up the difference somewhere, so we charge HMO plans essentially cost of care, and private insurance substantially above cost of care.
What difference? Does the reimbursement level not meet costs, or are you saying you need to bill more in order to make the projected revenue?
Though I work for the government 50% of the time, I cannot belong to a physician union to negotiate my wages, like a teacher or other public employee can.
Alas, you do have the AMA, which is not an industrial labor union in the complete Taft-Hartley sense but exhibits most of the functions of what is known as a guild. A guild is another form of labor syndicate, it does not strike, but instead it restricts labor supply in order to exert control over management -- guilds historically have used this power to control working conditions, and wages would rise secondarily as a function of the labor scarcity in the face of demand. Maybe doctors can't get COLA wage increases but I'd like to know what the "doc fix" is exactly if it's not a form of roundabout negotiated rate increase.
Almost every country, regardless of how medical care is paid for, is experiences health cost inflation above the CPI.
That's true, but the links back to the KFF show that our rate of increase still far exceed all other countries; it isn't strange for health care to take up more of its share of the economy given demographic issues and the fact that medicine is getting more effective.
If government funded health care is such a great deal, why doesn't Kaiser Permanente accept straight Medicare?
I don't think the Kaiser Family Foundation and Kaiser Permanente have any sort of organizational relationship aside from the money. Note I never said we should have government-funded health care, but it's clear laissez-faire policies in health care don't work and individual market discipline won't bring down prices -- it would just lead to a second renaissance of patent medicine and goat-gland surgery. You can have a mostly private-expenditure system if the rules work. (That a physician practicing wouldn't like this I can understand, you and your folks are the principle rentiers in the system, and definitely have the most to lose. Doctors in the German and UK health care systems are notoriously disgruntled. But doctors in Japan and Australia, a single-payer with secondary insurers system and private-insurers with community rating, do OK.)
Every system in the developed world has a private spending component, usually through insurance and copays just like here, but most also have a government payer either as the single payer or more commonly as a backstop, last resort payer; all systems more firmly regulate costs and practices and all systems at least have independent boards to assure efficacy of treatments (we call those "death panels.") There's no empirical evidence that people make rational decisions about their own health care spending.
I still challenge anyone to show me something useful they can do with the Flash Player installed on an Android device that they couldn't have done already.
They can claim on threads that their tablet has Flash Player. If someone spends a goodly portion of their day on threads fighting the Fanboi/Fandroid Wars, having a new bullet point to claim is a big feature.
If they had comments, they'd have to hire fifty people just to moderate the Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate posts, anti-NWO posts, anti-ZOG posts, anti-TACMAR posts, Black Helicopters posts, anti-globalization posts, anti-Bilderberger posts, anti-Zeta Reticulan reptoid posts, anti Trilateral Commission posts...
It should still be quotable, though. Then again, did this organization produce anything worthy of quotation?
Why is this phone $420 and only available with T-mobile? Is this really a competitive handset? The freedom premium here is a little extraordinary, particularly if it's only T-Mobile bands.
Also -- missed the announcement from HTC they would be unlocking their future bootloaders?
I have seen it, but let's see what happens to HTCs sales through it's carrier channels, huh? Maybe Verizon will decide they want to start pushing the Samsungs harder all of the sudden, or maybe they aren't really an HTC kind of company.
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The GM loans were meant to bridge GM in an economic crisis, and allow it to go through bankruptcy reorganization without having to layoff tens, if not hundreds of thousands of employees and allied tradespeople. The Huawei loan is for development, to expand into new business. Both are completely acceptable forms of industrial policy; the difference between China and the US is that China actually has an industrial policy and seems to make loans, grants and government procurement in a systematic way to favor internal Chinese development, whereas the US just spends this money when it's an emergency, willy-nilly, on whoever is contributing to political campaigns, or who is running full-page "woe is us and our employees" ads in the Washington Post that week.
The US government used to have the nerve to actually make positive law that favored US business and development, but certain strains of neoliberal thought make policy leaders get all meta about the role of the state and unwilling to make plans, even though our people still demand our leaders take action in emergencies.
Gingerbread WAS released over six months ago :)
Or, sorry to beat around the bush, but, I think it's arguable that it's simply not possible to offer cellphone handsets on a generic hardware platform, with PC hardware competition, diversity and profit margins, and a 2nd-party OS that is written and steered by its own agendas (open or otherwise), while at the same time making a phone that actually addresses people's wants and needs as well as something that just comes, complete and full integrated, of a vertical assembly line. This certainly seems to be the tack HP has taken with WebOS and Motorola may still take. It's not working for RIM but RIM's been simply making a subpar product for the last several years. People seem to like the Nexus phones best, there's a reason for that -- Google gets so much say over them they really aren't 3rd party phones anymore.
For mass market desktop PCs or laptops, vertical integration hasn't historically been as sustainable (Apple does it now but wasn't always so lucky), and observing that a vertically-integrated, single-sourced phone platform can address people's needs better isn't the same as saying closed computing addresses peoples needs better than open computing, or that Apple now has a free hand to take over the world, or that tyranny wins. These are over-generalizations based on the flawed idea that a phone is "just a computer."
It's not like we offer open hardware platforms for things like radios or washing machines, letting different vendors and partners construct them as they please and enabling the end user easy hacking -- an appliance toaster from Krupp and no one else will always beat an Android toaster with user-customizable filaments. Just because a phone is a little computer doesn't mean people need or want it to do everything on their desk does, and any compromise made to chase the desktop ideal can weigh the products down against integrated competition.
What we need now is the creation of standardized and open handset form factors and open handset hardware which is also to a degree standardized.
The Android platform is a defacto hardware standard. This hardware really isn't that sophisticated -- ARM cores, common chipsets, Android can be made to run on an iPhone after all, there's really no barrier to a manufacturer, as long as they use ARM.
Android handset manufacturers have it a bit better with a common OS, but they still have to churn out a new device practically every few months to remain relevant. [...] Only problem with Apple is that they are only in it for themselves and do not like the idea of giving their users true choice.
"Churning out" a new device every few months is the way manufacturers provide "true choice." You can either buy the 4G phone with a kickstand and an undeleteable Blockbuster app, or a Sprint phone with a hardware keyboard and is locked to Eclair, or a slider with MOTOBLUR. And none of these ever get their software updated without an act of congress, thus justifying the next phone in the churn cycle. Behold consumer choice.
Apple succeeds at remaining relevant, as you say, probably because their product and platform maps to consumer demand very well, and their platform doesn't try to recreate the, uh, "dynamism and competition" of the Wintel PC market, circa 1995 (an era in the history of computing I would consider one big, abominable mistake). Of course Apple is "only in it for themselves," unlike the well-known altruists at Samsung and Google.
The RIM tablet version 1.0 was unable to access email without tethering.
They think the tablet is just a peripheral of the phone. Apple spent a long time thinking iPhones are a peripheral of iTunes and have only very recently changed their tune. Of course, iTunes is a free computer program you download off the internet and a BB smartphone is an expensive smartphone... Okay so maybe they aren't thinking.
Time to parter with Microsoft or face the Abyss.
Or Google? Seems like an Android, customized for BES might be a spicy meatball in this market. Ya know, iPhone-competitive handset software with Blackberry-level corporate administration, no weird Apple procurement issues, etc...
Of course, it was a good idea they shoulda had two years ago, before they committed to QNX and their particular strategy, and the last several years of fog and fail.
As it is, it's not "time" for them to partner with anybody, as they aren't going to have new phones out until spring 2012 as it is. The time for partnering has passed, and announcing a new platform now would push that to winter, and RIMs strategic roadmap into Osborne territory.
Gecko does not support MP3 in HTML for exactly the same reason it doesn't support H.264 in : it's patent-encumbered and you have to pay licensing fees to use it.
They could just divert and use the codecs that are included with the OS and already licensed by the OS vendor, be he Microsoft or Apple, and that would cover 90% of cases. However, they probably wouldn't do that because it would make the Linux version less competitive by comparison, because many Linuxes don't have codecs or they're an additional install, and Mozilla would rather have an equal less-functional playing field between the ports of Gecko/Firefox than have versions that competed with each other on features. They also have an ideological commitment to give patented formats no quarter or support, unless they meet some definition of "open" they're comfortable with, like WebM.
There is this thing called conditional compilation, ya know. Let alone environment-aware code paths.
Maybe a "lightly tortured" entree really would be more delicious.
It's called "veal."
Note that if this law had passed, and in other jurisdictions where these laws are in effect, undercover journalism that impacts the business of a farm can be prosecuted as terrorism, given the underlying illegality of the videotaping.
It's important to know the name of your chicken before you eat it.
What's funny is that common sense tells us that its obviously risible that people would care about the humane treatment of an animal, when it's just going to get its brains blasted out by a captive bolt gun, but when people do see videos of feedlots with cowshit up the cow's knees, or pigs getting gutted on an assembly line while alive and conscious, they get really upset. And justifiably.
Derp? An XBox 360 has a weird custom 3-core 3.2 GHz PowerPC.
The closed iPhone store is a great advantage to have when you sell phones to morons.
No flames there.
(and to be fair, as the latest Mercedes commercials featuring drivers crediting the car for bailing them out from being idiot drivers demonstrates, it's not just in electronics).
You're right, we'd all be better off if these people and their passengers were dead, or better yet, quadriplegics on disability.
If Apple wants to market their phones to morons by basically saying "don't worry, we'll protect you from your own stupidity,"
God grant me the serenity to accept the stupidity we cannot change, the courage to change the stupidity I can, and the wisdom to not consign people who don't meet my standard of intelligence to ruin, misery, and death.
Oh, that's right. I knew that, I just didn't look at the author name.
I've always had this sort of irrational hostility to that Greenspun law, it seems to encapsulate everything I hate about developer over-generalization, in a smug language-weenie wrapper.
While DSD samples higher, the band over 20kHz is definitely subject to much more THD and noise than the lower band (I think in Sony's materials they specifically state that SACDs ho-hum ~90dB THD+N numbers only apply from 20 to 20k), and the higher freqs can create certain impressions of "space around the instruments" and localization, attributes highly prized by audiophiles, there's a lot of debate over wether these effects are completely accurate and not just caused by noise shaping, or if they make much difference at all for any recording made with normal +-3dB 30kHz microphones, or are just artifacts of non-coincident mic capsule mixing.
As someone who works in a studio, I can only say that what generally want from the equipment is simplicity and clarity -- you want control and you don't want a lot of extraneous gear adding its own little flavor to the operation.
Audiophiles really see their setup as a kind of musical instrument. They like how the tubes affect the sound, in the same way that violinists or guitarists experiment by sticking stuff in their resonant cavity. Audiophiles get a certain sort of solace from knowing the cables come from a single crystal of copper (whatever that precisely means), in the same way that a saxophone player might seek out unusual wood for a reed, on the recommendation of a friend or some respected genius of saxophoning. Many audiophiles say they want the pure recording but what they really work toward is a certain sort of enhanced listening experience, something that's more than what's on the recording.
Again, as a professional I'd point out that "more" is by definition "not as accurate," but there are many different ways to define "good," and "accurate" is a very restricted one.
Oversampling on the A/D converter would "push the filters ultrasonic," among other things, depending on what kind of A/D we're talking about -- quant noise from delta-sigma A/D goes down as sample rate goes up, and by design a delta-sigma has to have a significantly higher rate than an integrating A/D in order to get the same dynamic range for the equivalent passband.
Oversampling on the D/A converter, like in an Odd-Lots CD player, is a marketing term used by manufacturers to try to differentiate their 1 bit delta-sigma D/A converters, which must oversample by design, and people like seeing the word "over-" associated with a product; it makes it seem like they're getting something extra, and though 1-bit MASH DAs can sound a lot better than some other DAs they're still a low-end solution.
That's not fair, object orientation isn't strictly a language feature, it's also a generic pattern. Gobject is a C library but is object-oriented. Most object-oriented scripting languages are implemented in an underlying object-oriented C. Method(object, arg1, ...) and object->Method(arg1, ...) are equivalent, particularly if object is an opaque type not in the header.
We could even cite the crazier case of Objective C or Objective J[avascript], where every method call becomes a call to a runtime of msgSend(object, methodNumber, args...).
This seems like a total hackaround to force a language into a box it wasn't meant to fit in, though in the case of Objective-C, objc_msgSend() is implemented in a few dozen lines of ASM and can be compiled to a direct dispatch for the non-dynamic case.
it would be better to go with a nationalized healthcare system where doctors work for the government and do not need to bill their procedures at all
Hopefully they will get paid according to some scheme where they get more for doing more, better, and more specialized work. Oh wait, we already do that now.
and they would not need malpractice insurance at all, as long term injuries caused by errors would be dealt with through the existing public benefits system and medical costs incurred due to errors would be moot since medical costs would not fall upon the patient in the first place
Hmmmmm.... no. Still need punitive damages and compensation for lost income and quality of life.
For every dollar we spend on a Medicare patient, we are reimbursed 60-70 cents.We have to make up the difference somewhere, so we charge HMO plans essentially cost of care, and private insurance substantially above cost of care.
What difference? Does the reimbursement level not meet costs, or are you saying you need to bill more in order to make the projected revenue?
Though I work for the government 50% of the time, I cannot belong to a physician union to negotiate my wages, like a teacher or other public employee can.
Alas, you do have the AMA, which is not an industrial labor union in the complete Taft-Hartley sense but exhibits most of the functions of what is known as a guild. A guild is another form of labor syndicate, it does not strike, but instead it restricts labor supply in order to exert control over management -- guilds historically have used this power to control working conditions, and wages would rise secondarily as a function of the labor scarcity in the face of demand. Maybe doctors can't get COLA wage increases but I'd like to know what the "doc fix" is exactly if it's not a form of roundabout negotiated rate increase.
Almost every country, regardless of how medical care is paid for, is experiences health cost inflation above the CPI.
That's true, but the links back to the KFF show that our rate of increase still far exceed all other countries; it isn't strange for health care to take up more of its share of the economy given demographic issues and the fact that medicine is getting more effective.
If government funded health care is such a great deal, why doesn't Kaiser Permanente accept straight Medicare?
I don't think the Kaiser Family Foundation and Kaiser Permanente have any sort of organizational relationship aside from the money. Note I never said we should have government-funded health care, but it's clear laissez-faire policies in health care don't work and individual market discipline won't bring down prices -- it would just lead to a second renaissance of patent medicine and goat-gland surgery. You can have a mostly private-expenditure system if the rules work. (That a physician practicing wouldn't like this I can understand, you and your folks are the principle rentiers in the system, and definitely have the most to lose. Doctors in the German and UK health care systems are notoriously disgruntled. But doctors in Japan and Australia, a single-payer with secondary insurers system and private-insurers with community rating, do OK.)
This is a misconception. The United States has the ighest share of private spending per individual on health care, yet it has the highest costs and only middling health outcomes.
Every system in the developed world has a private spending component, usually through insurance and copays just like here, but most also have a government payer either as the single payer or more commonly as a backstop, last resort payer; all systems more firmly regulate costs and practices and all systems at least have independent boards to assure efficacy of treatments (we call those "death panels.") There's no empirical evidence that people make rational decisions about their own health care spending.
Fnord.
I still challenge anyone to show me something useful they can do with the Flash Player installed on an Android device that they couldn't have done already.
They can claim on threads that their tablet has Flash Player. If someone spends a goodly portion of their day on threads fighting the Fanboi/Fandroid Wars, having a new bullet point to claim is a big feature.
The first person to boast that they can read the report on their Xoom will Win The Thread, but probably lose the war.
If they had comments, they'd have to hire fifty people just to moderate the Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate posts, anti-NWO posts, anti-ZOG posts, anti-TACMAR posts, Black Helicopters posts, anti-globalization posts, anti-Bilderberger posts, anti-Zeta Reticulan reptoid posts, anti Trilateral Commission posts...
It should still be quotable, though. Then again, did this organization produce anything worthy of quotation?
Why is this phone $420 and only available with T-mobile? Is this really a competitive handset? The freedom premium here is a little extraordinary, particularly if it's only T-Mobile bands.
I have seen it, but let's see what happens to HTCs sales through it's carrier channels, huh? Maybe Verizon will decide they want to start pushing the Samsungs harder all of the sudden, or maybe they aren't really an HTC kind of company.