Not to troll but.... This site: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_ stats.a sp *suggests* that Linux has a higher share of desktops than Apple. You can take stats however you want. Of course, they may also look at the stereotype that suggests Linux users are more likely to be developers than Mac users. So, even if the stats don't hold up, it does look like the way to target more developers. OTH, since WSAD is basically Eclipse, and Eclipse is avail for the Mac I can't think of a good reason not to do the extra leg work and add a Mac version. Of course, to inadvertantly support Sun's position. Eclipse is already supported for Solaris........
From Sun's web site:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/download.html
This release of the J2EE 1.4 SDK and the Sun Java System Application Server is available for the following platforms:
* Solaris 9 (SPARC and x86)
* Sun Java Desktop System
* Windows 2000 Advanced Server
* Windows XP
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1, 3.0
So, where is AIX, HPUX, QNX, *BSD, IRIX, SCO (*sic), Xenix, Mac*, and countless others. I think the poster was right on the mark.
I forgot to mention in my previous POST. Using the JSON-RPC package, you don't actually have to touch and JSON. Just plain old Java/JavaScript. The package does the conversion for you. In the (un)marshalling stage the text representation of the objects, is actually the JSON. But, since the package does this step for you (each way), you don't have to mess with it. So, now we have a new toy but, don't *really* have to learn anything new. Now, if someone wanted to do a PHP,ASP, or insert favorite scripting lang here type RPC package they would have to learn JSON but, once the bridge was built, they wouldn't need to bother with it any more.
Ok, I've just downloaded their demo code and played with it a bit. I've also read most of the source code. So basically, we can register java objects, and call their methods from the client in JS. The (un)marshalling basically translates our objects between Java/text/JavaScript. It even appears to work well.:) I now think this is officially pretty cool. One mod though, since I tend to think scripting in JSP's is evil, I create and register the objects in my Struts Action class. I then store it in the session object. The jsp just does what it needs to. Now, I should think about putting the object name in the properties file since it gets used by both the Action class and the javascript. I'm also using Struts URL rewriting to pick the URL of the servlet so I can ensure the URL is context relative and that it gets the user's session id. Now, I wonder if I can write a class to tie this into the validation framework in Struts. Imagine getting live form field validation. bua-ha-ha-ha Slow work days become play days.
Sorry if my comment sounded like whining. I was commenting on the appropriate USE of a new idea. If web dev wasn't pure hell, I would probably do something else. Its the challenge that makes coming to work worth while.
Actually, since reading the article a while back about the guy who reversed engineered google's thing, I've been thinking about building a library to make this two-way communication between server APIs and a dynamic page. This package looks like it will be very interesting and might fill the role. And considering I'm a J2EE dev, I suspect it might even play well (based on statements on the site) with my apps.
Haven't you been hearing all the hype for the last few years. If we make all applications web based then platform doesn't matter. Of course, to implement all the features the PHB wants, well the web app is only gonna work on one platform. And of course, it'll take more time to do web hoodoo-voodoo than it would to just build in C++/Delphi. But, it will run from a "Web Broswer". It'll if a "web" application.
The user benefit will come from more usable dynamic web applications when this is applied well. The users will suffer when everbody decides their pages need this even when they don't. Kiss that CPU goodbye. The users will get to suffer when they decide to use a platform that didn't rank high enough for the sites QA team to bother checking.
When used and tested well, this can provide some awesome benefits. Hopefully, we'll see more than simple ad/news/stock tickers. Imagine a wiki where several people can edit the same page at the same time, a list of users editing on the side, and a diff color cursor for each user. We could get live spell checking on a web based email client, in a wiki edit window.
Developers, our lives have just become hell. Now PHB's will want this technology to be used everywhere. And its gonna have to work the same on every platform. Browser bugs, browser inconsistencies, oh my....
This is just another example that the best way to get proven wrong is to claim that something is impossible or to claim that language X can NEVER do Y. We see this time and again.
I would worry that in a technical discussion that legitimate links would no longer be followed. Many times those making a comment will include a link to reference materials or documentation. Searching those types of links could be very useful.
I wonder if Google could apply some type of filtering or text analysis of a link and its surrounding text to give it a spam number before deciding to follow it or not. Of course, there would be the CPU price and a constant updating of criteria.
Damn spammers keep breaking everything good about the web. Maybe *I* should do something about them.
There's no newer version on the update sites for 10.1 Official.
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I am tempted to agree but there is still a high demand for a "yet faster" machine. Its just not with infinite price. So, the second part of the engineering task is to keep the production costs inline while attempting to meet the demand.
It generally appears that if you can get the price of a high end chip below ~$400 its going to sell.
The companies are pretty good about getting the prices down once production is up. Compare a 1ghz chip today with one 2 years ago. You can even pick up a knock-off one now (microtel? I forget the name).
"Everything that can be invented has been invented." Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899
"I think there's a world market for about five computers." Thomas J. Watson, Chairman of the Board, IBM
"The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives." Admiral William Leahy, US Atomic Bomb Project
"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." Western Union internal memo, 1876
"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895
"Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work
"Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew." Children's Encyclopaedia, 1926
"Man will never reach the moon regardless of all future scientific advances." Dr. Lee De Forest, inventor of the vacuum tube, father of television and owner of over 300 patents
So, we find non-traditional approaches. So, yes your V10 gives out at 200mph. But, then some guy comes up with an SR71 Blackbird. Then some other guy builds a rocket. Then.....
It may be aero-dynamically impossible for a bumble-bee to fly but, its not physically impossible.
Like how AMD has been able to make instructions take fewer clock cycles to run. If an operation can execute in 3 instead of 4 clock cycles the gain in speed is obvious. How both Intel and AMD have built branch prediction. We'll probaly start to see chips come out with common compiler generated routines built in (hardware peephole optimization anyone?). We may see some speed increases occur as the transistor count goes down from engineers finding more efficient ways to layout a chip.
Why should a car have more than a 50hp motor ? Why put more than a 25hp motor in a motorcycle ? Why should anybody want to get a plasma flatscreen TV? Hell, what good is color TV?
After reading the previous article about the laser on a chip. I think that we will continue to see sped increases. Everytime we come upon the "maximum" capabilities, some smart guys and gals figure out a way to get beyond it. I've been hearing for 10 years that computers can't possibly get much faster. Memory can't possibly get any smaller.
I say "bah!" to the nay sayers. People will always find a way. A guaranteed way to be labeled an idiot in history is to claim something is impossible. Wasn't there some british lord in the 30's who publically claimed that it was impossible to fly? Wasn't the maximum possible speed to travel 100mph? then the speed of sound was impossible to overcome. then, you can only get to space with billions and billions of dollars. or, a computer to do "that" would be the size on the empire state building and require all the power of niagra falls just to keep it cool.
Regardless of the proposed merits of the language. Do "you" as a professional want to tell the world that your best programming skills are for a language developed specifically for "BEGINNERS".
Where is the programmer ego in all this? Where is I write code in machine language with a hex editor, all other are weak, in this?
Watch an ice skater spinning. Note the changes in rate of spin as arms and legs are moved to and from the body.
Go to the park, better with some friends. Get on the carosel and spin it. All of you move to the center. Then all move to the outer edge. You'll see it speed up and slow down.
In my mind, we should actively be seeking out illegals who are working in this country not to deport them, but to grant them visas and begin collecting taxes from them.
We are already collecting taxes from them. They are also paying into Social Security.
We should grant them visas so they can live in peace, not fear.
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Not to troll but...._ stats.a sp
This site:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers
*suggests* that Linux has a higher share of desktops than Apple.
You can take stats however you want.
Of course, they may also look at the stereotype that suggests Linux users are more likely to be developers than Mac users. So, even if the stats don't hold up, it does look like the way to target more developers.
OTH, since WSAD is basically Eclipse, and Eclipse is avail for the Mac I can't think of a good reason not to do the extra leg work and add a Mac version.
Of course, to inadvertantly support Sun's position. Eclipse is already supported for Solaris........
yes, you are correct
I forgot to mention in my previous POST.
Using the JSON-RPC package, you don't actually have to touch and JSON. Just plain old Java/JavaScript. The package does the conversion for you.
In the (un)marshalling stage the text representation of the objects, is actually the JSON. But, since the package does this step for you (each way), you don't have to mess with it.
So, now we have a new toy but, don't *really* have to learn anything new. Now, if someone wanted to do a PHP,ASP, or insert favorite scripting lang here type RPC package they would have to learn JSON but, once the bridge was built, they wouldn't need to bother with it any more.
Ok, I've just downloaded their demo code and played with it a bit. I've also read most of the source code. So basically, we can register java objects, and call their methods from the client in JS. The (un)marshalling basically translates our objects between Java/text/JavaScript. It even appears to work well. :)
I now think this is officially pretty cool.
One mod though, since I tend to think scripting in JSP's is evil, I create and register the objects in my Struts Action class. I then store it in the session object. The jsp just does what it needs to. Now, I should think about putting the object name in the properties file since it gets used by both the Action class and the javascript.
I'm also using Struts URL rewriting to pick the URL of the servlet so I can ensure the URL is context relative and that it gets the user's session id.
Now, I wonder if I can write a class to tie this into the validation framework in Struts. Imagine getting live form field validation.
bua-ha-ha-ha
Slow work days become play days.
Sorry if my comment sounded like whining. I was commenting on the appropriate USE of a new idea. If web dev wasn't pure hell, I would probably do something else. Its the challenge that makes coming to work worth while.
Actually, since reading the article a while back about the guy who reversed engineered google's thing, I've been thinking about building a library to make this two-way communication between server APIs and a dynamic page.
This package looks like it will be very interesting and might fill the role. And considering I'm a J2EE dev, I suspect it might even play well (based on statements on the site) with my apps.
You just need to drink the coolade.
Haven't you been hearing all the hype for the last few years.
If we make all applications web based then platform doesn't matter. Of course, to implement all the features the PHB wants, well the web app is only gonna work on one platform. And of course, it'll take more time to do web hoodoo-voodoo than it would to just build in C++/Delphi. But, it will run from a "Web Broswer". It'll if a "web" application.
and slow torutring pain for developers.
The user benefit will come from more usable dynamic web applications when this is applied well. The users will suffer when everbody decides their pages need this even when they don't. Kiss that CPU goodbye. The users will get to suffer when they decide to use a platform that didn't rank high enough for the sites QA team to bother checking.
When used and tested well, this can provide some awesome benefits. Hopefully, we'll see more than simple ad/news/stock tickers. Imagine a wiki where several people can edit the same page at the same time, a list of users editing on the side, and a diff color cursor for each user. We could get live spell checking on a web based email client, in a wiki edit window.
Developers, our lives have just become hell. Now PHB's will want this technology to be used everywhere. And its gonna have to work the same on every platform. Browser bugs, browser inconsistencies, oh my....
This is just another example that the best way to get proven wrong is to claim that something is impossible or to claim that language X can NEVER do Y.
We see this time and again.
I would worry that in a technical discussion that legitimate links would no longer be followed.
Many times those making a comment will include a link to reference materials or documentation. Searching those types of links could be very useful.
I wonder if Google could apply some type of filtering or text analysis of a link and its surrounding text to give it a spam number before deciding to follow it or not. Of course, there would be the CPU price and a constant updating of criteria.
Damn spammers keep breaking everything good about the web. Maybe *I* should do something about them.
How did you get it? Cooker?
There's no newer version on the update sites for 10.1 Official.
I am tempted to agree but there is still a high demand for a "yet faster" machine. Its just not with infinite price. So, the second part of the engineering task is to keep the production costs inline while attempting to meet the demand.
It generally appears that if you can get the price of a high end chip below ~$400 its going to sell.
The companies are pretty good about getting the prices down once production is up. Compare a 1ghz chip today with one 2 years ago. You can even pick up a knock-off one now (microtel? I forget the name).
http://curbstone.com/_pigs.htm
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899
"I think there's a world market for about five computers."
Thomas J. Watson, Chairman of the Board, IBM
"The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives."
Admiral William Leahy, US Atomic Bomb Project
"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us."
Western Union internal memo, 1876
"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895
"Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."
1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work
"Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew."
Children's Encyclopaedia, 1926
"Man will never reach the moon regardless of all future scientific advances."
Dr. Lee De Forest, inventor of the vacuum tube, father of television and owner of over 300 patents
I appologize to you.
:)
A bit difficult to understand was your grammar.
".. with most of their traditional approaches ..."
So, we find non-traditional approaches. So, yes your V10 gives out at 200mph. But, then some guy comes up with an SR71 Blackbird. Then some other guy builds a rocket. Then.....
It may be aero-dynamically impossible for a bumble-bee to fly but, its not physically impossible.
Like how AMD has been able to make instructions take fewer clock cycles to run.
If an operation can execute in 3 instead of 4 clock cycles the gain in speed is obvious.
How both Intel and AMD have built branch prediction.
We'll probaly start to see chips come out with common compiler generated routines built in (hardware peephole optimization anyone?).
We may see some speed increases occur as the transistor count goes down from engineers finding more efficient ways to layout a chip.
Where there is a will (profit), there is a way.
Why should a car have more than a 50hp motor ?
Why put more than a 25hp motor in a motorcycle ?
Why should anybody want to get a plasma flatscreen TV?
Hell, what good is color TV?
After reading the previous article about the laser on a chip. I think that we will continue to see sped increases.
Everytime we come upon the "maximum" capabilities, some smart guys and gals figure out a way to get beyond it.
I've been hearing for 10 years that computers can't possibly get much faster. Memory can't possibly get any smaller.
I say "bah!" to the nay sayers. People will always find a way. A guaranteed way to be labeled an idiot in history is to claim something is impossible.
Wasn't there some british lord in the 30's who publically claimed that it was impossible to fly?
Wasn't the maximum possible speed to travel 100mph?
then the speed of sound was impossible to overcome.
then, you can only get to space with billions and billions of dollars.
or, a computer to do "that" would be the size on the empire state building and require all the power of niagra falls just to keep it cool.
The impossible is for weenies.
Well, the latest stable version of Firefox distributed by Mandrake is 0.8 so, some of us have a bit more to worry about.
I guess its time to bite the bullet and visit the cooker....
They'll get my duct tape when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
A 12 bang bang (combat engineer) with a spork is generally considered to be a WMD. Thats why MRE's only come with a spoon.
I agree, kill 100 with a leatherman might be difficult.
Now, if you had a plastic spoon AND a leatherman...
Ok, I know that I'm a trollin today but, really, let us not forgetwhat the "B" stands for.
"B"eginners
"A"ll purpose
"S"ymbolic
"I"nstruction
"C"ode
Regardless of the proposed merits of the language. Do "you" as a professional want to tell the world that your best programming skills are for a language developed specifically for "BEGINNERS".
Where is the programmer ego in all this?
Where is I write code in machine language with a hex editor, all other are weak, in this?
Some simple examples.
Watch an ice skater spinning. Note the changes in rate of spin as arms and legs are moved to and from the body.
Go to the park, better with some friends. Get on the carosel and spin it. All of you move to the center. Then all move to the outer edge. You'll see it speed up and slow down.
In my mind, we should actively be seeking out illegals who are working in this country not to deport them, but to grant them visas and begin collecting taxes from them.
We are already collecting taxes from them. They are also paying into Social Security.
We should grant them visas so they can live in peace, not fear.