DENG is a browser written in Actionscript 1 (zero install deployment of latest web standards to the vast majority of web users that have the Flash Player 6 VM installed). Partly supports CSS3, XHTML, XForms, XFrames, SVG, SMIL,..
i'm sorry but i really can't follow. is this just another, general flash rant? you were replying to a comment about the flash based xforms browser "deng", and - to get to the point and back to the original discussion - the number of people that are able to see xforms content via deng today (and i couldn't care less if that's 95, 90, 80 or 60% of all web users) outweights all other solutions combined, by far. so what's your point?
"The problem with Macromedia's claims about how widely deployed Flash is, is that the vast majority don't have Flash 6 deployed"
who did you tell that if i may ask? according to macromedia's stats flash player 6 is currently installed on 95% of this world's webbrowsers. it's not that i believe in macromedia's stats (i don't believe in any stats, thanks to good education of my former math teacher), but on the other hand they can't be *that* far off.
"And when users with Flash 5 go to a site that requires 6 or 7, do they get prompted to download a newer version? No, they just see a partially working Flash animation, or a blank screen"
that's just plain wrong either. you can easily make your application determine what flash player version is running on the system.
please don't get me wrong. i also don't like proprietary software. i don't like activex. i don't like flash (talking in general). but there are occasions where you can use the flash player for something worthy too. and please try to stick to facts.
Apart from the fact that it is proprietary to the bone, Flash is not necessarily bad. Please stop bitching, that's contra productive and leads to nothing.
The Flash Player VM internally features full ECMA 262 support, a basic XML parser, audio and video codecs, an advanced vector rendering engine, etc, all in a quite stable and secure 500k plugin, and it is the most widespread browser plugin ever (more than 95% of web users are able to play SWF6 content today).
Knowing this, the FP VM could be intelligently used as a core framework for zeroinstall implementations of generic XML-fed rendering engines (browsers, web application frameworks).
"DENG" is such an engine, rendering subsets of SVG, XForms, XHTML, XFrames, SMIL, and any arbitrary XML markup, styled by CSS 2/3:
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- DENG Examples: http://claus.packts.net/deng/examples/
- DENG Features: http://claus.packts.net/deng/features.php
- DENG Home: http://claus.packts.net/
DENG is a browser written in Actionscript 1 (zero install deployment of latest web standards to the vast majority of web users that have the Flash Player 6 VM installed). Partly supports CSS3, XHTML, XForms, XFrames, SVG, SMIL,i'm sorry but i really can't follow. is this just another, general flash rant? you were replying to a comment about the flash based xforms browser "deng", and - to get to the point and back to the original discussion - the number of people that are able to see xforms content via deng today (and i couldn't care less if that's 95, 90, 80 or 60% of all web users) outweights all other solutions combined, by far. so what's your point?
"The problem with Macromedia's claims about how widely deployed Flash is, is that the vast majority don't have Flash 6 deployed" who did you tell that if i may ask? according to macromedia's stats flash player 6 is currently installed on 95% of this world's webbrowsers. it's not that i believe in macromedia's stats (i don't believe in any stats, thanks to good education of my former math teacher), but on the other hand they can't be *that* far off. "And when users with Flash 5 go to a site that requires 6 or 7, do they get prompted to download a newer version? No, they just see a partially working Flash animation, or a blank screen" that's just plain wrong either. you can easily make your application determine what flash player version is running on the system. please don't get me wrong. i also don't like proprietary software. i don't like activex. i don't like flash (talking in general). but there are occasions where you can use the flash player for something worthy too. and please try to stick to facts.
There is: http://www.kinesissoftware.com/products.html The 1.5 release is going to have full AS2/SWF7 support.
Apart from the fact that it is proprietary to the bone, Flash is not necessarily bad. Please stop bitching, that's contra productive and leads to nothing.
The Flash Player VM internally features full ECMA 262 support, a basic XML parser, audio and video codecs, an advanced vector rendering engine, etc, all in a quite stable and secure 500k plugin, and it is the most widespread browser plugin ever (more than 95% of web users are able to play SWF6 content today).
Knowing this, the FP VM could be intelligently used as a core framework for zeroinstall implementations of generic XML-fed rendering engines (browsers, web application frameworks). "DENG" is such an engine, rendering subsets of SVG, XForms, XHTML, XFrames, SMIL, and any arbitrary XML markup, styled by CSS 2/3:
http://claus.packts.net/http://claus.packts.net/deng/examples/
http://claus.packts.net/deng/features.php
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fyi, there is software available, making the Flash Player (6) render latest W3C XML Applications like XForms or SVG: check out DENG