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Do You Really Want to Meet People on the Web?
Wolfspelz writes "Do you want to meet people on Web pages? The Jabber Virtual Presence project makes people aware of each other on the Web. Just like you are aware of other people in the real world anywhere you go, the virtual presence makes you aware of others on the same virtual locations. The project uses Jabber/XMPP as the transport protocol for virtual presence. Jabber conference components serve as presence servers. The code is GPL/LGPL. The Virtual Presence Protocol extensions are open and documented. The virtual presence system including the LLuna2 client is designed to protect the privacy and prohibit any indecent use, be it commercial use, advertising, or profiling. But: do you want to meet people on the Web at all?"
I don't want to meet people who need the web to meet people.
"Would you, could you, with a goat?" Dr Seuss
...for an internal project with the Jabber4R wrapper.
Jabber ended up being too slow, though, so we built a more specialized message router in C++ - and open sourced it - to replace it.
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That's why I'm on the internet to begin with... so I DON'T have to interact with other people. (Well, except for slashdot.)
Some cats swing, and others don't. Don't you be the kind that won't.
Being aware of other people in real life is what makes me nervous and bashful. It's a Sartrean thing.
And of course, their #1 "topsite" is porn. Like we didn't know what it would be used for.
No, I don't think I'm interested in listening to a bunch of space-hogging attention-whoring avatars while I surf, thanks.
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that the tens of thousands of geeks out there can compete to meet with the one of the 2 geek girls in the world so the possibility of the uber geek child can become a reality.
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What truth?
There is no dupe
You like Woman being fisted by donkeys? I like women being fisted by donkeys! Funny we should meet here. ... yeah i can see where this will lead ...
Mom?!? Dad?!?! Little Timmy!?! What are you doing on donkeypunch.com!?!?
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I'd say that the more opportunity to meet interesting people in this world, the better, and this just improves the odds of randomly meeting people your probably wouldn't otherwise have to opportunity to meet.
As long as it doesn't supplant actual real world interaction with people as a primary social outlet, that is..
All of these services are just an excuse to gather a huge number of e-mail addresses and connections between people, and then to use that network to market stuff. If there were a service that banned marketing and advertising messages, maybe it would be worth doing. As it is, it almost acts like the "in-crowd", where if you buy what they want, magically you're the most popular. However, so what if people want to meet people online? How is that worse than in an establishment serving alcohol, where everyone's not themselves anyhow?
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If it was on the same level as Yahoo Messenger and AIM. There are a lot of different types of people that would be on there then. It would be a little different.
My guess is that it is mostly nerds using it now. I work with thousands of nerds. Do I really need to meet any more near me?
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Yeah, because your real name is Malakai, and mine is ComaVN
Be wary of any facts that confirm your opinion.
goatse, tubgirl and the like "fuck, you got duped into going here too?" "nah, i get off on this shit man"
While definately not the most obvious use of this software, it could prove interesting on sites such as /., cnn, salon etc. to talk live to others about an article. Posting comments is fine, but it's not live, and it could be days before anyone responds.
It's certainly not something you'd leave running all the time.
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NSFWDonkey's have fists? I need to see some of the porn you're watching!
Although I haven't downloaded this yet, it sounds like a fun social networking concept to me. Kind of a hybrid of the late Third Voice and the newer StumbleUpon (which I really love)
what sort of sick world do you live in where donkeys have fists!
big d!cked donkeys shagging women - thats what you want....
Would much rather ask someone looking at the same website as me if they have seen what I'm looking for, instead of a site map.
And no.. I dont go walking around the grocery store asking strangers where the broccoli is..
What so geeky about it?.. if you can't get a linux version on their website so we can meet geeky chicks!
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The reason I do not want to meet people on the web is that they are all stupid people who think the internet is the most rad thing. The problem with that is that all they want to do is talk about the internet and stuff. They do not have the intelligence to join a good conversation.
Sounds like what Odigo started out as about 5 or 6 years ago. They provided you with a display so you could see who else was at the web site you were visiting, then you could IM them if you wanted. There was more, like the ability to search for people, etc.
However, the lluna interface looks more interesting.
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I've met people socially who I met online, some were freaks and some were decent well adjusted people. It's the same as meeting people in the real world.
I'll admit that I have a bit of social anxiety in person and it's easier for me to start a conversation with a total stranger online and to subsequently dip out on the conversation if I don't like the tone or direction :).
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Wow, that's a pretty neat idea. I've been on a bunch of websites with a pretty active forum *ahem* but that's a little different than just chatting with passers-by.
I really like the idea, and I'd use it on my own website.
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Nothing says "unprofessional job" like wrinkles in your duct tape.
I never thought I'd see smellovision before flying cars!
Ten gets you twenty that marketing departments would love this. 'Hey, this is a list of people chating while visiting your website.'
Honestly, I have enough pain in my life listening to winny 15 year olds on xbox talking about what they did with my mother. I have to see my mother daily, man you guys are sick.
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i would go down the pub/club/bar/gym/golf/beach/pool
i have no desire to speak to hotSexyGal14 who is really a fat pasty guy from texas with a hygiene problem and reads comics thanks
The virtual presence system including the LLuna2 client is designed to protect the privacy and prohibit any indecent use, be it commercial use, advertising, or profiling. But: do you want to meet people on the Web at all?
Wow, very negative. I don't understand such a knee-jerk bitter reaction. That should be right up there with "Do we really want to be on the Web anyway?" and "I don't know about these newfangled digital cameras; was anything really wrong with film?"
Will you look at the comments so far!
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I'm going to buck the trend. Yes meeting people with the same interests as myself (presumably) would be great.
Of couse if the people are all a bunch of sad geeks who hate the thought of ever talking to another person, then it might not be so much fun
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I fell in love with a hot sexy lady on IRC.
It turned out to be an old man.
No thanks.
IRL meetings are foolish.
A program called virtual places allowed you to surf the web and meet people 9 years ago.
And then AOL bought it and killed it.
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You can now make friends and be aware of people on the web!
....checks google....
So I now can order food, beer, Geek toys, clothes, make friends, work and interact - all without leaving my home.
Now if I could just be able to order sex, I can brickup my front door....
Just found out that all my needs are now catered for.....
Bricks are being delivered monday!
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I don't really think that this is something that most people want. It seems like it might be slightly interesting, for about two minutes, and then you'd turn it off permanently.
But, while we are mentioning Jabber, I have to say that I am a bit disappointed with Jabber. Overall development of the Jabber messaging platform has been slow since the ratification of the protocol and it seems like this is the type of open source project that should really be making advancements. Messaging in the open source community is second only to mp3 listening. I would have expected a project like Jabber to be leading the way in feature development but, compared to the commercial services, Jabber lags far behind.
While commercial services are refining their relatively mature products, Jabber has yet to show any sign of features like voice or video conferencing. Features the commercial competitors have had for some time. Indeed, the existing Jabber components are themselves not yet mature. The newer 2.0 reference server lacks 80% of the features of the original Jabber reference server and configuration is a tangled mess.
This new presence feature is something that no one else has and therefore is a leading innovation. But, at the same time it is a little needed and likely unwanted feature so why not concentrate on other advancements?
.......I only want you for your intellect. :P
Virtual meeting: no make-up, no acne cure, no washing necessary.
... of reading Slashdot for the last 6 years, I would have to say, "Absolutely not."
Lotus Sametime is a corporate internal IM/web conferencing tool. Templates for dicussion databases with place based awareness were included in previous versions however in the latest version these have been dropped, presumably because nobody ever used them. You can still use the templates from the old version or roll your own from the API should you wish.
IRL I'm sitting here at my keyboard typing this. The internet is no magical Alter Ego machine. I've met people from the internet, it's no different from meeting people in 'real life'. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
Why not ask the question: Do you want to see anyone in REAL LIFE at all?
*DrugCheese rants*
Hopefully someone can figure out a way to prevent the system from being abused by spammers before this becomes main stream.
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I am a geek. I admit it fairly. And I'm young enough to have been involved with computers since 8. Luckily enough my parents forced me to go outside every now and then and miracolously I developed actual social skills. What bothers me is not the development of new social networking technologies, bu the notion that it seems that a lot of teenagers (and even children) are using them and making friends from around the world, sure that's great for developing an international and open view of the world but waht about real social skills? With IRC, MSN, AIM, Yahoo! and countless other real-time systems I fear that soon well have a generation of people that have no actual real social skills and cannot accomplish anything away from the computer. With ever-improving social networking systems, it's easier to find people that share your interests online than it would be in the real world, so why bother with the "real world"?
If for nothing else, creating new geeks still requires (at least some form of) social/physical contact (although it propably wont take too long before there's a RFC for that, that circumvents this "problem").
"But: do you want to meet people on the Web at all?"
Well, given that I met someone on match.com more than two years ago and that we're getting married in August, I'd say there's nothing wrong with meeting people on the web.
If it weren't for the web, I wouldn't have met my font-design mentor, Chank, despite the fact that we live in the same city. Some of my best friends on the planet, I've met through IRC and Livejournal
That said, I still don't want to have a sitatuation as describe in the article of being aware of people that are surfing the same sites I am. Especially when I'm surfing the pr0n. I mean, yeesh...talk about TMI.
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but not through some random chat-roomish sort of way. I operate some discussion boards and have met some really nice people with whom I have something in common.
I was introduced to my wife through an e-mail from a mutual friend who I would not have know without the Internet. The Internet is a perfectly valid way to meet people, but not in a singles bar sort of way.
"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain
"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain
I like to help others on a development community I haunt, but I really hate it when they request to add me to their lists / see my online presence. I use IM mostly for business, and I actively participate in the development forum because I like to help - not carry on dialog. Besides, in such a situation people stop thinking for themselves when it comes to development problems (typically simple things they can't figure out because they didn't read the API documentation).
I like not carrying on dialog with people, one of my attractions to the Internet before the web got commercialized.
I can see how this will work: Jabber: You are visiting goatse.cx, there are 1 other visitors. Visitor: Don't you just love looking at this guy. You: Wait... is that you, Mom?
is it meeting people or personas and avatars and online handles? i am untrusting enough to always wonder at least a little how much of what comes through is pure fiction. no...i think i like quiet surfing...
So I went to this site and was greeted by a hundred thousand avatars who had just come from Slashdot.
It was horrible
What a rotten party, have we run out of beer or something?
I have always found that it is much more enjoyable to use IM for talking with people I already know.
Some are nerds, some are normal people, and some have their own CD, but it always gives me a chance to talk, and lets me let out what i want to say because I am a fairly quiet person. And there isn't anything I hate more than being dragged into a coversation with ten complete strangers, which ends up as a flame war within seconds.
And it beats screaming at the monitor when I get shot down in UT2K4.
This is cool :) It's also good for the Gene Pool. No more sixth finger for my children!
Some years ago ICQ (mirabilis) tried to launch something similar: a chat integrated with browser where you meet the people on the same page, but without the avatars. I don't know where it has gone.
Already I have those women with their webcams going after me in email, IM, etc. I do not need another way to get spammed. I do not want to meet those kind of people. Not to mention another method for viruses to use to try and infect my machine.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
A really nice idea. Not very suitable for people who want their web surfing to be unnoticed (want information, goto web, want to chat - talk to your wife, for god's sake!). But for crazyfied teenagers desperately looking for someone to talk to, get attention and scorepoints (think Lunastorm, Funplanet etc) it's just another toy to replace IM. And all that instead of just goin out and playing football with REAL girls.
Too bad, though, that it's a windows-oly technology. Think about how linux interest wouyld increase if smth like that was ONLY available for Linux? Yep, huge. But it looks like days when technology was developed on unix/linux and THEN ported to Windows (web, irc, ftp etc.) is over... too bad.
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I want my communication to be asynchronous and broadcast based like on Usenet or slashdot.
Like hell I'll be wasting my time looking for cyberbuddies. Now please excuse me, I need to barf.
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
Funny thing it was. We were online friends for sometime in a linux programming related forum and shared simple interests in ham radio/electronics etc. Couldn't have been a bigger surprise when I picked him up on our way to the Linux symposium in Ottawa.
His legged was all bandaged up and large abrasions on his right arm. We started talking about it and it turns out he was involved in a Corner Store B&E, shot by the owner during the incident.... None of this I heard while we were online. We had a few beers and he opened up that he had been in prison 3 times already for B&E's and Assault with a deadly weapon. He couldn't make it because of the terms & conditions of his bail....
Never know what you'll find out there, good luck if you try.
Film is much better than 648x480 or even a much larger resolution image taken with a bad digicam.
Less look fast, more go fast.
Having met several people in person that I first met through e-mail or chat (fellow programmers and co-workers from remote locations), I've noticed several interesting dynamics from virtual communications relative to those of "real life." Some of these are obvious, such as judging people by how well they express their ideas and opinions in words (instead of by their appearance or personal hygiene).
Others are more subtle, and are apparent only over time, such as the speed with which someone responds. Do they think quickly, but type slowly? Do they fly off the handle and just post the first thing that comes to mind, or do they carefully consider every response?
In most cases, I have found that getting to know someone online, over time, gives you a better perspective on how that person sees themselves. If they have low self-esteem, that will come across (eventually). If they're confident and authoritative, that will show (again, over time). If they're egotistical and full of themselves, they'll have microsoft.com in their e-mail address.
However, you *can* get to know someone really well on one level (or in a given context), and completely miss another. For instance, I used to manage several mailing lists about Borland Delphi. One of the moderators for the list, named Jo, was moving from one part of South Africa to another, and was offline for a couple of weeks. I had known Jo for years as a serious gearhead when it came to Delphi Database programming. After I asked one of the other moderators about Jo by saying, "Where is he moving?", I discovered that Jo was, in fact, a woman.
At that point, Jo's signature line took on new meaning (and I got a much-needed lesson in gender stereotyping): "I am a programmer - I don't do relationships."
Tim
How is this any better than The Palace? The Palace is chat software with avatars, sound, interactive environments, and its own nifty RPN scripting language, ipscrae. It was so sucessful that it even made it to the cover of Time, but it faded after it was bought by a company that tried to push its use in the corporate work space.
This would fall into the "News for Nerds" as opposed to the "Stuff that matters" category.
Read any good sonnets lately?
It's a neat little gimmick, but that's about it.
If you want to socialize while surfing, I suggest getting real friends and adding them to your ICQ/MSN/AIM contact list...
...there were Bulletin Boards which people had to dial up (at 1200 BAUD!) to log in and enter (no "surfing" in those days). Eventually, after much chatter and posting, people arrange to meet for lunch/dinner at a public gathering.
Oh, what fun to put a face to the name (this was before you could see what the person looked like, due to dial-up speed and technology)! Sometimes, you met a certain someone and you continued a relationship "offline" using a phone (there were no "cell phones" back then), since there was a limited amount of space to send private messages (unless you were lucky with a connected BBS, you had no "E-mail" per se).
So, yes, you would want to meet people you see online....
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unless there is some more definite shared interest than visiting a particular web site.
I think finding common interests and discovering like-minded individuals is what forums and web logs are better at doing.
I recently installed Yahoo Messenger, because my daughter wanted to chat online. I looked at a couple of the chat rooms, even the purportedly technical ones were total cesspools. Slashdot would be a cesspool if not for the meta-moderation system, I always browse at level 4 or 5, and even then the discussion is marginally civilized.
Boss:Wow, all my employees seem really glued to their screens, they must be hard at work...
.....clickety click....boss goes to slashdot.org....
Hey! employee #3433, what are you doing here?
..and all of my developers are on here thinking up lame Natalie Portman jokes....grrr.... now where did I put all those P45's....
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I'm meeting them right here and now. And in some cases it *is* a horrible experience, but other cases make up for the occasional unspeakable encounter.
Clue: community, society, etc. are all mental constructs having no real physicality in themselves. It's *all* the "real world", folks, or anyway it's all equally as "real" as it gets. Every relationship is intangible -- it's all in your head.
We don't need another one of these. There are just too many ways to meet people online and not enough people to populate them. I predict about 100 guys and 8 girls from my area will join this, and I will never be on the same website as any of the girls. I will realize this after two weeks and stop using the program.
What we *do* need is people who are serious about meeting other people to carry active RFID tags linked to a database listing their interests. The receiving device could have a function that makes it beep when it finds a girl who is looking for an overweight coder who lives in his parents basement. Also, ex-boyfriends could add warnings to the database like "She's nuts, run for your life" that could trigger an alarm. I just got bored with wardriving and need a new hobby. I don't see this ever getting old.
RTFS:
The virtual presence system including the LLuna2 client is designed to protect the privacy and prohibit any indecent use, be it commercial use, advertising, or profiling.
Like a week ago I meet this girl online.. we talk thru im for about a week and she asks for my number... We talk 2 or 3 times on the phone.. I get a weird feeling about this one so I pull the old dont pick up phone for a week.. Girl proceeds to call my cell 15x in 1 week.. fast foward late friday night 1am.. i am drunk at the bar.. phone rings number i have never seen before i pick up and it is her... i quickly hand the phone to a girl i was with and she proceeded to scream at this girl saying stop calling my phone.. now a week later this girl non stop calls my phone at least 3 times a day... i cant change the number because It is too important.. lesson learned
Well, he/she could be a furry.
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just a good chance to know more people, that doesnot have to be the only one, but there's nothing wrong to be one way.
I met my wife on the internet.
If people can send messages, there will be advertising. And believe me, a few months of no earnings compared with the ones that DO have commercial use will have them thinking about that vitamuscle or what have you as a sponsored "special friend".
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Despite my rants elsewhere about the unreality of the "real world" concept, I'd have to say no. I do not have any unfulfilled desire to meet people on the 'net (or anywhere else). I meet people all the time, netwise and otherwise, and I find this sufficient.
Personally I have been trying to convince my friends to use Jabber for a long time. But I am using gaim, and they all know that I have accounts on icq, msn and yahoo. Therefore I haven't been able to convince anyone
Slashdot just put up the news. People are downloading and starting LLuna. Our operational server is hoplessly overloaded, because most users use our internal backup server as their primary jabber server.
If you try out LLuna then please do NOT use the quick start wizard. Please use other jabber servers to log in to LLuna to distribute the load.
'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7
I think that'd be a human slashdotting.
I always see the jokes about the futility of meeting girls online. Maybe this misperception that girls are not online is part of the problem! I know quite a few "hot" girls and they all use IM, email, and mobile phone text messaging EXTENSIVELY. Like way more than any geek I know.
But: do you want to meet people on the Web at all?
I didn't think I would, but yes. When I moved to London, I didn't know anyone in the city and had to bootstrap myself a new social network. Graduate school helped, but after a while I wanted more than one group of friends so I turned to Orkut. I've been to a bunch of meetings and generally my experiences have been positive.
For those interested, I wrote about my first orkut meetup on my blog here.
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popular?
real?
any longer in existence?
where the meat hits the street?
Maybe I'd be interested if you could set preferences to eliminate Windopes. These will be 90% of the people out there. Maybe add a browser filter, so you never see people who are using MSIE.
Could you/is there any game support in Jabber? It seems to me that an open protocol gives people the opportunity for turn-based games such as chess or backgammon.
Q) Do you come here often?
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A) Oh yes - every 5 mins or so while the boss isn't looking.
Q) Haven't I seen you here before?
A) No, but you might have read my blog.
Q) What's a nice girl like you doing at a nerdy place like this?
A) I'm not.
No, it's clear, they don't work in the real world, and they ain't gonna work in the on-line world.
90% of the people I've met on the net are ugly, disgusting, low lifes. Now to wait for Google to pick this up... then for the low lifes to find this and hunt me down by WHOISing my domains :/
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When you meet someone face to face, there is much more polite and civil (hopefully) openings.
It is more genuine.
The person in an internet chatroom could be
a paedophile for all I know. I can't use my intuition to determine this because there IS no presence. This is just another fad that would waist my time.
I don't believe in on-line presence.
If its not someone I already know in person, I would rather talk to AI online - honestly!
..you are only one person, who can only meet a finite amount of people PROPERLY in this world at any given time... ..and also because some people you want to meet and some you don't!
Anyone have success using the net to meet people who are geographically local? I moved recently to the remote outskirts of a metro area, and have been trying to use the net as one of the ways to meet people who might have friendship potential. I've looked at IRC, but had no luck finding channels that aggregate people by locale. I don't want to post on a match-making service, as I'm not after a relationship. Any stories of success out there?
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
Too bad Odigo has had this feature for a few years now. They call it "radar" or something like that, and it actually got annoying when people messaged you that were on the same website.
Sort it out. Even the GNAA have a working website.
don't worry, i'm sure they're not interested in meeting people who think only in cliches either.
Because I have speech and hearing impediments so it is hard for me to socialize in person. I used to socialize on chat BBS' before Internet was hot. Now, I use IMs, e-mails, etc. to socialize. Also, it keeps my physical appearance invisible to new people that don't know me.
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
Well, as a guy, I automated part of the process of being rejected by women.
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As I understand it, this is like being able to turn to a shopper on the same isle as you in a retail store and ask what they think of product XYZ, or turning to the person behind you at a rock concert and saying "Man can Neal Peart play those drums!"
/. for that?).
I can see this being helpful, but at the same time, I would think the desired web default would be to ignore the person who doesn't know what it is they are looking for (isn't Google for that?) or wants to talk about the video stream I am trying to enjoy (isn't IRC for that?).
Basically I think it is a cool application of technology, but if people want to talkabout a website, they already can (isn't
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
Hmm... I don't think that a Jabber protocol for turn based games would not be able to compete with java sites like games.yahoo.com. A Jabber client would end up being clumsy in comparison with the java sites and the number of available games would be smaller.
But how about a Jabber metaserver? These days Linux gaming face the problem that the problem that the number of games is larger than the number of players. Actually the number of tetris clones is larger thatn the number of players. This means that whenever I log into a metaserver I don't meet any people. I would like to have some common meeting place where I can meet likeminded gamers and start a game of choice.
Does anyone on line want to mean you?
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I don't want to meet people on the web. No way! If I wanted to meet people, I'd go outside. (For those who haven't been there before, that's the area located beyond the perimeter of your home.) But I don't want to meet people. I want to sit on my ass and read the web. So, no, I don't want to meet people on the web.
...and most people are assholes. In fact, the vast majority of people are assholes, and don't realize it.
People like to think well of themselves. Therefore, they don't go out of their way to find out ways in which they are being assholes, and correct them. Instead, they block their own assholishness from their field of view, make a few rationalizations, and basically dislike everyone else for doing the same thing.
Of course, there are SOME people who are not assholes...but they are hard to find.
Or PDA's. Then you could go Toothing. At least then you're already out and about.
As a geek I have a hard enough time finding friends who share my interests. Its not because I am unfriendly or antisocial either there just are not that many people in the general population that enjoy programing or get excited about Linux kernel developments. I have lots of friends but not lots of geek friends. It would be wonderful to meet people who frequent the same websites, as chances are pretty good we would have something in common. What a great idea.
The woman is a shameless cam-ho and isn't even all that hot, to boot.
You must have low self esteem to lust so pathetically after a woman who would only plant her boot in your croch even if she let you get near her.
I can't understand the people who are saying that they don't want to meet people online. What are you doing talking to people on slashdot then.
It sounds like a reasonable method of meeting people of similar interests.
We've been together for just over eight years, married for almost 6, and we have a 4-month-old daughter.
;)
So, can you and should you meet people online? Hell yes!
Um, if they want your credit card right away, they're not just being inquisitive.
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Didn't AOL sue Third Voice for doing this? I thought that they argued that customers could post anti-AOL sentiment on "their" website.
The Metaverse will not happen due to people creating monolithic apps or projects, but will happen by the integration of small protocols such as this... from VPP its easy to add a "model" of the presence, and thus create space.
meh
The link doesn't work
When I was in high school, used IRC. A lot.
The people I met were great. we formed close friendships, and met occasionally in real life. Also, it was fun being able to tell people that of my friends, more than half of them were a complete mystery to me in all of the normal ways that people identify with others. I didn't know their names, their gender, their skin colour, where they lived, what they did for a living, how old they were, what they looked like, etc. I just knew what we talked about. And it was good.
Then some of my friends started using ICQ. I could handle that, it was fun having quick text messages outside of IRC, or with the people that couldn't handle the concept of online chat (it really is a skill). It wasn't bad.
Then people switched to MSN. I don't know why. I still contend that there is no advantage over icq, and that people should still be using that. But ah well. Anyhow, the point is that because of the way that msn works, I can't handle online chat anymore. The interaction process with other people is overwhelming. Everything flashes, and beeps, and dings, and jumps up out of the bottom of my screen. It's like I'm being attacked from 7 different directions everytime I log on. Not to mention, most people think I'm a dick and lose interest if I haven't responded to them wihtin 2 seconds.
Now, I use my computer to browse blogs (and slashdot and fark, whish loosely fit into that description) and do my homework.
It used to be a tool for interaction, now interacting sucks balls.
ah well, what are you going to do?
The hyperverse will happen before the metaverse, and then comes the superverse.
For people like me who are socially retarded, the internet is a wonderful place to meet people. I've been meeting people from the net for the past 5 or 6 years, and I haven't had a single bad experience. It was exciting to finally meet and hang out with people who shared the same interests as me. Face it, when you're a total computer nerd with elitest tastes in music, people who share those interests are pretty few and far between. What better way to meet people with those interests than, say, a forum for one of your favorite bands?
So far, thanks to the internet, I've met a number of amazing people. I met my first somewhat girlfriend over the net, I met a band who I ended up joining and moving out to PA to be a part of (then stole the drummer's girlfriend and had my first true love for 2 1/2 years). As recent as this week, I met a girl who I'll be travelling from my home state of MI to IN to go to a concert with.
You do get a good sense of what people are like by chatting online. You say things without inhibition. There aren't any social hangups. You don't have to worry about ackward silence. You can bail out at any time. You can say how you really feel without stuttering or blushing.
Of all of the important (non-family) people in my life, only one or two were *NOT* met on-line. This goes for all of my lasting friends from computer group gatherings (as a result of the BBS days), to my beautiful, intelligent wife.
That's right. My wife. I knew what I wanted and reasoned that a database search was far more likely to locate what that was than random chance. It took me a week of research, and cost me $1.25. As I've told her many times, she is definately the best value I've ever received for $1.25.
Funny that there would be a geek chick on-line like that... (Albeit a language geek). Do I want to meet people on-line? For intj's like my wife and me, that's probably the very best way.
This reminds me a lot of that MS Comic chat I used to use when I was 11-12 in Windows 95. Nothing new about this IMO. But then again I didn't really RTFA much.
How will you be able to read a webpage filled with thousands of avators ?
(like.. while a decent slashdotting?)
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
She is indeed very pretty, but her sister is even more beautiful.
At the same time I'd see a need to have the "not connected" option, for when you want a little alone time while perusing your favorite beastial midget porn site.
But: do you want to meet people on the Web at all?
Yeah, but only if they are super-hot chicks looking for sex!
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Good job! :-)
Cheers mate
Want to know what kind of risks you take meeting someone online?
If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
I think some guys will be disappointed when they use this and find that not as many girls like porn as previously thought. That might make for an awkward virtual room...
we are married for almost five years now.
It could be interseting to meet people who are all, say, hanging out at a site for a given game or something along those lines. Or who are hanging out at a specific message board.
But i also don't see any real serious potential for this to "change" anything. Take for example users of a given product like a printer. How many people "hang out" at the printer's website? How many people just browse around for hours at adobe's site, for example?
The biggest advantage this brings is that it can tighten community based web sites a little bit, but that's about it, i would think, save in relatively rare cases like when a product's site has a very active forumn.
"Nothing excites jaded grandmasters like a Theoretical Novelty" - Dominic Lawson
I'm not an asshole, you asshole. I basically dislike you.
People, people who meet people, are the luckiest people, in the world.
No.
I don't even want to meet people in real life. In fact, don't speak to me or make eye contact.
who would only plant her boot in your croch even if she let you get near her
good point
Hey, it's just another medium, another way of meeting people. And for us computer geeks, it sounds like a typical way.
;)
So here's my advice: simply try it. Don't think about fat, pasty, pimply nerds sitting in the dark before glowing screens pretending to be pretty girls, just try it.
People like us tend to spend a lot of time in front of a screen, and a lot less running about the beach or parties. We simply don't have the *time*, as well.
So: use the computer to find people.
I did. Found my current girl-friend. Am seriously happy about it
And you know what? Didn't even take long.
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You get to see naked pictures of them before meeting in person!
You should combine the drinking with the meeting in person, that way the fat, ugly person in front of you will look a lot better.
The next step is to walk around on the Web with your in game avatar. It's time to break the barriers between virtual worlds. To go from a virtual/gaming world to the web with the same avatar, and maybe even between different virtual world.
That's definitely the trend. Maybe our children will regard our old ways of meeting and getting to know people as backward amateurism: "Any sane person would use a professional service to meet the significant other for the rest of the life. Would you relay on chance and luck for a thing that important. You even pay for cutting your hair"
Right, one important goal of the JVP project is to win users for Jabber. Virtual Presence is messaging and closely related to (IM)Presence. If Jabber doesn't catch the VP users then other IM platforms will.
There is a diffence between meeting real and virtually. There are so many people who socialize on the net, but not in the real world. They are great warriors and mighty mages, starship captains and Jedi. They communicate thru avatars. I wonder if they would like to take their avatar to the Web.
Are we really talking about this project. No bugs?. No patches?. No docs?. No specs?.