I believe in mechanistic law & order. Cameras, robotics, reuse of commercial-purposed online user metrics for criminal tracking.
I do not want average citizens intervening in community affairs for the sake of apprehending criminals. I do not want citizens performing the fighting functions in war.
Heavy reliance on humans for maintaining law and order enables corruption and injustice.
Yours is either a good paranoia check or rhetorical subtefuge. I knew one person who died in 9/11. Since bombings in Spain and Britian and Israel are in general public transportation
nodes I would have to say "yes".
I'm more concerned about a war waged to dismantle my economic system. A plan by others to harm me is not a war, and I would not expect my government
to afford the same resources to protect a direct threat to me, whereas a direct threat to ports or transportation nodes I would want my government to expend massive resources
if needed to stop the threat.
Bush&Co are probably using info for their own blackmailing. On the secret ops being low budget, even if there are then maybe "item of interest" trails could be traced?
I agree with WheelDweller.
I totally *want* data mining so that Islamic terrorists are caught.
Don't put me in the LovesGWBush camp, I don't watch Fox News - live in a urban liberal haven and walk to work.
I've read Chomsky for years. BUT I'm finding it hard to respect my fellow liberals on this war with terrorism thing. Its freaking
serious and real, and it means data mining, inspecting suspicious behavior, arresting people, and dropping bombs in areas
of the world.
Liberals should be ok with all of the above when used intelligently to thwart Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. ( I will agree, the Bush
administration has NOT been so intelligent and also went to war in a totally wrong country, dumbasses) From the majority of posts
in the thread all claims of wrongdoing are carte blanche condemnations of whole catagories of police activities. No wonder we have
these idiot neocons running the show, intelligent non-neocons exalt privacy and freedom to meaningless and unbounded fundamental first-principle that disables
all offensive and defensive measure our goverments can take to protect us. If the liberals aren't up to engaging in war, then we'll continue to allow conservatives
to occupy positions of power.
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I believe in mechanistic law & order. Cameras, robotics, reuse of commercial-purposed online user metrics for criminal tracking. I do not want average citizens intervening in community affairs for the sake of apprehending criminals. I do not want citizens performing the fighting functions in war. Heavy reliance on humans for maintaining law and order enables corruption and injustice.
Yours is either a good paranoia check or rhetorical subtefuge. I knew one person who died in 9/11. Since bombings in Spain and Britian and Israel are in general public transportation nodes I would have to say "yes".
I'm more concerned about a war waged to dismantle my economic system. A plan by others to harm me is not a war, and I would not expect my government to afford the same resources to protect a direct threat to me, whereas a direct threat to ports or transportation nodes I would want my government to expend massive resources if needed to stop the threat.
Good points PPH
Bush&Co are probably using info for their own blackmailing. On the secret ops being low budget, even if there are then maybe "item of interest" trails could be traced?
I agree with WheelDweller. I totally *want* data mining so that Islamic terrorists are caught.
Don't put me in the LovesGWBush camp, I don't watch Fox News - live in a urban liberal haven and walk to work. I've read Chomsky for years. BUT I'm finding it hard to respect my fellow liberals on this war with terrorism thing. Its freaking serious and real, and it means data mining, inspecting suspicious behavior, arresting people, and dropping bombs in areas of the world.
Liberals should be ok with all of the above when used intelligently to thwart Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. ( I will agree, the Bush administration has NOT been so intelligent and also went to war in a totally wrong country, dumbasses) From the majority of posts in the thread all claims of wrongdoing are carte blanche condemnations of whole catagories of police activities. No wonder we have these idiot neocons running the show, intelligent non-neocons exalt privacy and freedom to meaningless and unbounded fundamental first-principle that disables all offensive and defensive measure our goverments can take to protect us. If the liberals aren't up to engaging in war, then we'll continue to allow conservatives to occupy positions of power.