I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this plot angle shows up in an episode of Law and Order. Other urban myths have been incorporated into that series in past scripts (i.e., kidney harvesting).
The "GimpShop" name, on the other hand, is pure and simple infringement.
I hope this gets modded "Redundant" because it deserves to be, but also to point out that your argument fails because PaintShop has never been sued. Trademark enforcement requires that you defend ANY and ALL infringement of your mark or you lose it. You cannot selectively enforce your tradmarks.
The fact that Adobe has not sued a fairly well known clone for tradmark violation puts the lie to your claim.
A guy I went to high school with works for a cable company. He gets all the stations (premium included) and full bandwidth internet (we clocked it at 2mbps on dslreports) for about what I pay for satellite TV.
I've been pretty lucky. The folks who set me up are the local public utility district. They already handled internet services to the federal energy supplier in our region. Setting up their residential/small business ISP went fairly smoothly. The techs vary in skill level, but what they lack in skill to their more urban counterparts they more than make up in tenacity. They never stop working on a problem until it is completely solved.
This is in comparison to my brother's last job where the network engineers at a large metropolitian ISP just quit working on something when it started working again. The system magic-ed itself back in to operation and they weren't going to monkey with it. The problem would periodically reoccur, but they made no extraordinary effort to troubleshoot the problem. If it ain't broke....
My current ISP techs are getting better as they work the system. I was one of their first customers and have been with them for nearly two years. This second year has been the best service yet - better than all of the dial up accounts I've ever used, rural or urban. That is what makes moving to a new ISP a difficult prospect.
Despite tripling my bandwidth, I may be a guinea pig again.
Until two regional companies started offering radio-link internet. I get 256Kb/sec up/down and am eyeballing another provider who will offer better transfer rates for the same price. The only problem is the price. Both ISPs charge $60/month. I am able to justify the price because I can telecommute a few days a month and save gas in my car. My dial-up was $15/month with a $17/month second telephone line. I looked into Hughes' and Echostar's systems, but their Fair Access Policies looked like bandwidth restrictions on what you were already paying for. I was going to stay with dial-up until radio-links came along.
The technology that came about because of our push to land on the moon is considerable.
Well, Teflon, Velcro, and digital computers have been debunked as being spin offs of the Apollo mission. Perhaps you could itemize the "considerable" innovations from the moon landing.
Bart PE is a completely reverse engineered version of WinPE, with it's own build process.
Correct.
It is not his own code.
Excuse me?
It uses Microsoft's own code,
You have evidence of that?
If you mean he used Microsoft's SDK to build his reverse engineer product, then you are probably right. In that case, everyone who has ever written code using Microsoft's products, including these folks is illegally copyrighting code. Check out the licensing on the linked website. Those silly people actually believe they own that code!
...and boots using 99.999% of the code WinPE uses.
Where is the proof of your five-nines claim?
It IS WinPE.
Then why hasn't Microsoft's legal division shut them down? Are you telling me that a Microsoft Project Manager knows BartsPE exists and they haven't slapped him with a C&D order?
So now there is water, heat, and soon big business when 4Frontiers gets there.
What will they make and who are they going to sell it too? I'm open for making money on Mars, but I haven't read one proposal that looks like it would make money.
I can see why a country would want to go to Mars. There is always the national honor, staking territorial claims, etc. for a Mars landing. I just can't see spending billions of dollars for no financial return at all.
How much money has a business made from the US landing on the Moon?
Shoo' I'm being raped, tortured, and murdered there!
Excellent point!
When I read TFA, I was wondering "Why is this listed as 'Your Rights Online', when it is clearly a political discussion. China maintains a stranglehold on their populace and the only thing we can do is bitch about is Skype getting blocked?
I'm sure China's telco blocking Skype what this guy was pissed about when this photo was taken.
So what sort of violation are you looking at? DMCA violation? Copyright violation? Breaking your shrinkwrap?
None, no, no, and ummmm...., no.
It would seem that given the illegality of this,
Why? The OS is Microsoft's. The builder is Bart's. He just bypassed the WinPE, not the OS. You still have to create the LiveCD with Microsoft products and follow the EULA for their OS. The same is true for WinPE products developed commercially and with the blessing of the Borg....you'd might was well not do it, and use a different OS, like NetBSD, FreeBSD or some Linux-based OS.
Why? If my customers are using Windows, and I am trying to correct a problem in Windows, so that my customer can continue using... Windows, why would I use some *other* OS? If they were using Linux, I would use Knoppix to fix their system.
The last thing I need is the BSA (Business Software Alliance) coming to my place of business with a bunch of pigs and poring over my crap to find violations and then hit me for $20K per violation.
Then don't use pirated software. BartsPE is his own work, free from Microsoft's code. He just came up with a method for creating a LiveCD that is different from other companies who use Microsoft's PE software.
I've been running BartPE on machines at work and it is the best. We tried similar commercial products based on Windows PE and have found this open source tool to be the most flexible way to get a bootable Windows image customized to our corporate profile.
But Bart's is not the officially sanctioned Windows PE: In the Technet Webcast about Windows PE a Microsoft Program Manager (not calling any names) says: "BartPE is an unlicensed version of WinPE and of Windows XP. Something to we really encourage people to stay away from because it is actually an improperly licensed version of Windows".
"The Man" doesn't like BartPE; all the more reason to use it.
You said "if the data is correct", implying there is data that show an increase. Just where is this incorrect data which you were referencing? Or were you just pulling it out of your ass?
Ya know, no good can come from admitting a mistake on this forum. Assfucks like yourself will just post as AC and shit all over the attempt to correct a mistake. What's the matter? Did your mom stop breast feeding you too early?
Fuck you and your fucking AC post. I realize we all post nom de plume, but posting under our nicks at least gives our peers an opportunity to hold us somewhat accountable for what we write. Your post, however, is just fucking mean spirited and stupid and deserves the response it receives.
If you don't like my posts then don't read or reply to them.
Because it was a big hurricane. Big hurricanes happen sometimes.
But the frequency of large hurricanes is increasing, if the data is correct. Doesn't that indicate some energy increase may account for the increase?
Studies show that virtually everyone who eats a banana eventually dies. Therefore, bananas cause death. Ban them.
I understand logical fallacies, thank you. But if the people who eat bananas have a statistically higher chance of dying than anyone else in a general population then you can safely assume that bananas may be the contributing factor in their early demise. Given enough data you can actually make a positive correlation between eating bananas and early death.
That is how they determined smoking causes early death.
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I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this plot angle shows up in an episode of Law and Order. Other urban myths have been incorporated into that series in past scripts (i.e., kidney harvesting).
But what I'm curious about is why the eleventy-third person to start in with "PaintShop! PaintShop!" is so indignant over my supposed redundancy...?
Actually, I was referring to my post as being "Redundant".
Now, if you could only reply to the *content* of my message.....
Inukshuk(in-NOOK-shook): a rock formation based on the common rock markers used by Inuit peoples in Canada's Arctic.
Rock cairns are the earliest of human communication devices.
The "GimpShop" name, on the other hand, is pure and simple infringement.
I hope this gets modded "Redundant" because it deserves to be, but also to point out that your argument fails because PaintShop has never been sued. Trademark enforcement requires that you defend ANY and ALL infringement of your mark or you lose it. You cannot selectively enforce your tradmarks.
The fact that Adobe has not sued a fairly well known clone for tradmark violation puts the lie to your claim.
You suck. ;)
A guy I went to high school with works for a cable company. He gets all the stations (premium included) and full bandwidth internet (we clocked it at 2mbps on dslreports) for about what I pay for satellite TV.
Some folks get all the luck.
I've been pretty lucky. The folks who set me up are the local public utility district. They already handled internet services to the federal energy supplier in our region. Setting up their residential/small business ISP went fairly smoothly. The techs vary in skill level, but what they lack in skill to their more urban counterparts they more than make up in tenacity. They never stop working on a problem until it is completely solved.
This is in comparison to my brother's last job where the network engineers at a large metropolitian ISP just quit working on something when it started working again. The system magic-ed itself back in to operation and they weren't going to monkey with it. The problem would periodically reoccur, but they made no extraordinary effort to troubleshoot the problem. If it ain't broke....
My current ISP techs are getting better as they work the system. I was one of their first customers and have been with them for nearly two years. This second year has been the best service yet - better than all of the dial up accounts I've ever used, rural or urban. That is what makes moving to a new ISP a difficult prospect.
Despite tripling my bandwidth, I may be a guinea pig again.
Try netcraft.com.
Until two regional companies started offering radio-link internet. I get 256Kb/sec up/down and am eyeballing another provider who will offer better transfer rates for the same price. The only problem is the price. Both ISPs charge $60/month. I am able to justify the price because I can telecommute a few days a month and save gas in my car. My dial-up was $15/month with a $17/month second telephone line. I looked into Hughes' and Echostar's systems, but their Fair Access Policies looked like bandwidth restrictions on what you were already paying for. I was going to stay with dial-up until radio-links came along.
the ability to use duct tape as a lifesaving device (apollo 13!)
You got me. I concede.
The technology that came about because of our push to land on the moon is considerable.
Well, Teflon, Velcro, and digital computers have been debunked as being spin offs of the Apollo mission. Perhaps you could itemize the "considerable" innovations from the moon landing.
For example, how many companies fortunes have been made with digital computers?
So you are claiming that, without the Moon landing, digital computers woudln't have been invented?
I know what you're doing, you are trying to de-funnify my post.
Shit! I'm sorry. I didn't mean to step on your line.
CRAP!!! I think I just did it again!
Bart PE is a completely reverse engineered version of WinPE, with it's own build process.
...and boots using 99.999% of the code WinPE uses.
Correct.
It is not his own code.
Excuse me?
It uses Microsoft's own code,
You have evidence of that?
If you mean he used Microsoft's SDK to build his reverse engineer product, then you are probably right. In that case, everyone who has ever written code using Microsoft's products, including these folks is illegally copyrighting code. Check out the licensing on the linked website. Those silly people actually believe they own that code!
Where is the proof of your five-nines claim?
It IS WinPE.
Then why hasn't Microsoft's legal division shut them down? Are you telling me that a Microsoft Project Manager knows BartsPE exists and they haven't slapped him with a C&D order?
Bullshite indeed.
You shouldn't reply if you think it's a rhetorical question.
I wasn't sure it was rhetorical, but you are correct.
What about getting women there ?
Geeks can't get women here, so isn't that a rhetorical question?
So now there is water, heat, and soon big business when 4Frontiers gets there.
What will they make and who are they going to sell it too? I'm open for making money on Mars, but I haven't read one proposal that looks like it would make money.
I can see why a country would want to go to Mars. There is always the national honor, staking territorial claims, etc. for a Mars landing. I just can't see spending billions of dollars for no financial return at all.
How much money has a business made from the US landing on the Moon?
Shoo' I'm being raped, tortured, and murdered there!
Excellent point!
When I read TFA, I was wondering "Why is this listed as 'Your Rights Online', when it is clearly a political discussion. China maintains a stranglehold on their populace and the only thing we can do is bitch about is Skype getting blocked?
I'm sure China's telco blocking Skype what this guy was pissed about when this photo was taken.
I dont even have any rights in China../i.
Yeah. Neither do I!
Hell, I don't live in China.
I don't even call China.
So what sort of violation are you looking at? DMCA violation? Copyright violation? Breaking your shrinkwrap?
...you'd might was well not do it, and use a different OS, like NetBSD, FreeBSD or some Linux-based OS.
None, no, no, and ummmm...., no.
It would seem that given the illegality of this,
Why? The OS is Microsoft's. The builder is Bart's. He just bypassed the WinPE, not the OS. You still have to create the LiveCD with Microsoft products and follow the EULA for their OS. The same is true for WinPE products developed commercially and with the blessing of the Borg.
Why? If my customers are using Windows, and I am trying to correct a problem in Windows, so that my customer can continue using... Windows, why would I use some *other* OS? If they were using Linux, I would use Knoppix to fix their system.
The last thing I need is the BSA (Business Software Alliance) coming to my place of business with a bunch of pigs and poring over my crap to find violations and then hit me for $20K per violation.
Then don't use pirated software. BartsPE is his own work, free from Microsoft's code. He just came up with a method for creating a LiveCD that is different from other companies who use Microsoft's PE software.
I've been running BartPE on machines at work and it is the best. We tried similar commercial products based on Windows PE and have found this open source tool to be the most flexible way to get a bootable Windows image customized to our corporate profile.
But Bart's is not the officially sanctioned Windows PE: In the Technet Webcast about Windows PE a Microsoft Program Manager (not calling any names) says: "BartPE is an unlicensed version of WinPE and of Windows XP. Something to we really encourage people to stay away from because it is actually an improperly licensed version of Windows".
"The Man" doesn't like BartPE; all the more reason to use it.
ESR points his .45 at his computer monitor and shouts "YOU HEAR ME MICROSOFT!!??! Just GIVE me and excuse to USE this thing!!"
You said "if the data is correct", implying there is data that show an increase. Just where is this incorrect data which you were referencing? Or were you just pulling it out of your ass?
Ya know, no good can come from admitting a mistake on this forum. Assfucks like yourself will just post as AC and shit all over the attempt to correct a mistake. What's the matter? Did your mom stop breast feeding you too early?
Fuck you and your fucking AC post. I realize we all post nom de plume, but posting under our nicks at least gives our peers an opportunity to hold us somewhat accountable for what we write. Your post, however, is just fucking mean spirited and stupid and deserves the response it receives.
If you don't like my posts then don't read or reply to them.
Wrong.
I stand corrected.
Don't blindly buy into the "frequency of large hurricanes is increasing"
I don't. You see that I put "if" in the statement you quoted. I see the facts and stood by your point.
They have a political agenda, pure and simple.
Who doesn't?
Because it was a big hurricane. Big hurricanes happen sometimes.
But the frequency of large hurricanes is increasing, if the data is correct. Doesn't that indicate some energy increase may account for the increase?
Studies show that virtually everyone who eats a banana eventually dies. Therefore, bananas cause death. Ban them.
I understand logical fallacies, thank you. But if the people who eat bananas have a statistically higher chance of dying than anyone else in a general population then you can safely assume that bananas may be the contributing factor in their early demise. Given enough data you can actually make a positive correlation between eating bananas and early death.
That is how they determined smoking causes early death.