OS/2 didn't die because of the dual platform strategy. It dies a slow death because Microsoft continued to pay people to write articles stating that OS/2 was dead and showing fake future sales numbers showing everyone abandoning OS/2 and adopting Windows. After several years business leaders started believing this nonsense and it became a self fulfilling prophecy.
Of course when the same thing starts (paid off authors writing fake articles stating the end is near) happening to RIM or any other product, it will probable come true as well. These articles stating the end is near for RIM were coming out when RIM had 70% of the market share and the products were outselling other smartphones. The Torch was declared a sales failure and the iPhone 4 a success when the Torch was vastly outselling the iPhone.
Can't argue an opinion. My view is they are very much the same if not identical.
Why do people say the browser is poor? My homescreen is the google search engine just like my desktop - there's no real difference. I can go to almost any site except flash, same as Apple.
#6 - My screen is full size and identical to the iPhone4. In addition I have a popout physical keyboard which I vastly prefer to trying to use a touchscreen for typing.
Also I never have to pull my battery with the latest OS.
Some of our executives are stuck doing this maneuver at least once per day. We're slowly rotating them into iPhones and Androids -- ActiveSync devices don't need no stinking BES Server.
This is invariable caused by a malfunctioning app. Stop putting crap on the phone and it works fine. I had to reboot mine when the OS was brand new, but after the first patch its been completely trouble free.
And you don't have to pop the battery out to reset - that just means you don't know how to use your phone.
#1 - you can also do this for free with any email client
#2 - pdfs, excel, word attachments can all be read on a blackberry
#3 - I've got a bunch of useful apps for my torch, all I really need, but yes apps are in general inferior to apple apps.
#4 - Bullshit. Blackberries dont require constant resets or tweaking. they just work, out of the box. Mines trouble free and is teh FIST phone, smart or not that I actually find useful.
We have several boat-accessible islands, and some have coverage, and some do not.
HA! Canada has tens of thousands of boat accessible islands with vacation properties, and the vast majority do not have cell coverage. In fact thats the whole point of getting out of the city and going to an island - to get away from it all!.
I work a shitty IT program manager job in middle america, and I'll have you know in the *rest* of the country that's about a half days' wages after tax.
Minimum wage in Canada (Ontario anyway) is currently $10.25 an hour. $15 for half a day would be highly illegal here.
Baby seals are no longer killed for their coats. This is a myth continued only because it generates sympathy and revenue for whomever shows those images.
Seriously, *YAWN*. I read what this shit did, amazing, 10 years ago. Maybe PERL is really lacking this, in which case, great. PERL guys, welcome to 2001.
"Would you like one or not" is a choice, but it is not choice in the obvious context at hand of being able to get that choice from anywhere else.
So because I can only get a Ford Explorer from Ford, Ford is then considered a monopoly?
Through collusion, they operate as an oligopoly, and they do have specific monopolies over specific public resources (none of the others get to use AT&T's frequencies or vice versa).
Collusion is illegal, but I doubt you'd be able to make it stick. If you think they are colluding, why not contact a lawyer and sue them? As for the public resources thing, these frequencies are licensed. Doling out frequencies to manage the airwaves is not a molopoly.
The choice isn't there. You can't buy the phone at a reduced plan price from anyone but AT&T.
Its there or it isn't. If AT&T offers it then its there. If they are offering something other carriers do not then good for them, and why not get it from them?
It's illegal in the US to abuse your monopoly status. The phone carriers are, by definition a monopoly
How can multiple companies be a monopoly? Where I am I have the choice of three national carriers, then maybe a handful of smaller ones. How is this a monopoly?
So don't buy the phone for full price. That's like complaining there are different prices for a car for lease, vs payments, vs cash purchase. It's up to the manufacturer to set the price how they see fit. If you don't like it buy something else, send a complaint letter, whatever. Don't go whining to the government because you think it is unfair.
Do you really think that iCloud communications picked their name without knowing of Apples iWhatever naming conventions? Of course not. They picked their name to capitalize on that brand name recognition to get more customers. Explains why they never trademarked the name since they couldn't.
There is nothing wrong with the pricing that I can see. Apple can charge what they like. And the cellular providers can charge what they like, clearly they are giving a discount to be tied into a contract.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with this and I see no reason for government interference.
I hope Apple gets spanked for this. It was their lack of due diligence, and even if Apple was aware of this other company, it chose to engage this "Imma show you whose boss" mentality. Apple decided to play the game, so too damn bad if they lose
Hey Symbolic - why did you blatantly steal the name of Symbolic Motors from San Diego? I was completely confused by the name similarity and thought you and they were the same entity. I hope they sue you into oblivion for your blatant arrogance and lack of due diligence.
Has it ever occurred to you that Apple, like the rest of us, have never heard of this company and had no idea the name was in use? It's not even the same name. It's different. This lawsuit is ridiculous and hopefully it gets thrown out.
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OS/2 didn't die because of the dual platform strategy. It dies a slow death because Microsoft continued to pay people to write articles stating that OS/2 was dead and showing fake future sales numbers showing everyone abandoning OS/2 and adopting Windows. After several years business leaders started believing this nonsense and it became a self fulfilling prophecy.
Of course when the same thing starts (paid off authors writing fake articles stating the end is near) happening to RIM or any other product, it will probable come true as well. These articles stating the end is near for RIM were coming out when RIM had 70% of the market share and the products were outselling other smartphones. The Torch was declared a sales failure and the iPhone 4 a success when the Torch was vastly outselling the iPhone.
Can't argue an opinion. My view is they are very much the same if not identical.
Why do people say the browser is poor? My homescreen is the google search engine just like my desktop - there's no real difference. I can go to almost any site except flash, same as Apple.
OWA support on Blackberries, btw, is an absolute fucking joke.
Why? I use outlook web no problem on my torch.
Wow. I worry about any phone that is "teh FIST." I mean, seriously, they have creams for that.
Thats what happens when I use my Windows laptop to type. If I was doing this on my Torch, the spelling would be perfect.
Because it is the most functional smart phone out there...
The dual-platform strategy didn't work for OS/2 and I don't think it will work for RIM either.
Actually OS/2 ran windows apps far better than Windows did. How did that not work?
I have full browser (google) and full email on my torch...
#5 - My torch has a 5MP camera
#6 - My screen is full size and identical to the iPhone4. In addition I have a popout physical keyboard which I vastly prefer to trying to use a touchscreen for typing.
Also I never have to pull my battery with the latest OS.
Some of our executives are stuck doing this maneuver at least once per day. We're slowly rotating them into iPhones and Androids -- ActiveSync devices don't need no stinking BES Server.
This is invariable caused by a malfunctioning app. Stop putting crap on the phone and it works fine. I had to reboot mine when the OS was brand new, but after the first patch its been completely trouble free.
And you don't have to pop the battery out to reset - that just means you don't know how to use your phone.
#1 - you can also do this for free with any email client
#2 - pdfs, excel, word attachments can all be read on a blackberry
#3 - I've got a bunch of useful apps for my torch, all I really need, but yes apps are in general inferior to apple apps.
#4 - Bullshit. Blackberries dont require constant resets or tweaking. they just work, out of the box. Mines trouble free and is teh FIST phone, smart or not that I actually find useful.
We have several boat-accessible islands, and some have coverage, and some do not.
HA! Canada has tens of thousands of boat accessible islands with vacation properties, and the vast majority do not have cell coverage. In fact thats the whole point of getting out of the city and going to an island - to get away from it all!.
I work a shitty IT program manager job in middle america, and I'll have you know in the *rest* of the country that's about a half days' wages after tax.
Minimum wage in Canada (Ontario anyway) is currently $10.25 an hour. $15 for half a day would be highly illegal here.
Baby seals are no longer killed for their coats. This is a myth continued only because it generates sympathy and revenue for whomever shows those images.
They are accorded a monopoly based on trademarks, copyright, and patents. So yes, Ford has a monopoly on Ford Explorers.
so with that logic, basically every product on the market is a monopoly. I dont think you know what a monopoly or competition is.
C# is an abomination. Glad they have some sense and stuck with a standard language.
Seriously, *YAWN*. I read what this shit did, amazing, 10 years ago. Maybe PERL is really lacking this, in which case, great. PERL guys, welcome to 2001.
Typical developer jealousy and arrogance
"Would you like one or not" is a choice, but it is not choice in the obvious context at hand of being able to get that choice from anywhere else.
So because I can only get a Ford Explorer from Ford, Ford is then considered a monopoly?
Through collusion, they operate as an oligopoly, and they do have specific monopolies over specific public resources (none of the others get to use AT&T's frequencies or vice versa).
Collusion is illegal, but I doubt you'd be able to make it stick. If you think they are colluding, why not contact a lawyer and sue them? As for the public resources thing, these frequencies are licensed. Doling out frequencies to manage the airwaves is not a molopoly.
The choice isn't there. You can't buy the phone at a reduced plan price from anyone but AT&T.
Its there or it isn't. If AT&T offers it then its there. If they are offering something other carriers do not then good for them, and why not get it from them?
It's illegal in the US to abuse your monopoly status. The phone carriers are, by definition a monopoly
How can multiple companies be a monopoly? Where I am I have the choice of three national carriers, then maybe a handful of smaller ones. How is this a monopoly?
Yea, but her version was more popular
So don't buy the phone for full price. That's like complaining there are different prices for a car for lease, vs payments, vs cash purchase. It's up to the manufacturer to set the price how they see fit. If you don't like it buy something else, send a complaint letter, whatever. Don't go whining to the government because you think it is unfair.
Do you really think that iCloud communications picked their name without knowing of Apples iWhatever naming conventions? Of course not. They picked their name to capitalize on that brand name recognition to get more customers. Explains why they never trademarked the name since they couldn't.
This lawsuit is stupid..
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There is nothing wrong with the pricing that I can see. Apple can charge what they like. And the cellular providers can charge what they like, clearly they are giving a discount to be tied into a contract.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with this and I see no reason for government interference.
One is iCloud Communicaitons and is an Arizona company selling Voip. The other is Apple iCloud and sells a data service, not phones.
How could anyone confuse them?
I hope Apple gets spanked for this. It was their lack of due diligence, and even if Apple was aware of this other company, it chose to engage this "Imma show you whose boss" mentality. Apple decided to play the game, so too damn bad if they lose
Hey Symbolic - why did you blatantly steal the name of Symbolic Motors from San Diego? I was completely confused by the name similarity and thought you and they were the same entity. I hope they sue you into oblivion for your blatant arrogance and lack of due diligence.
Has it ever occurred to you that Apple, like the rest of us, have never heard of this company and had no idea the name was in use? It's not even the same name. It's different. This lawsuit is ridiculous and hopefully it gets thrown out.