It's not just the cost to cover the repair, but the odds it will happen again. If you constantly have accidents then you will pay a lot more as they know you are likely the problem and likely will have more accidents.
Most insurance company here let you have one no premium increase at fault accident. More than that though and the odds are you are the problem and not just bad luck so they jack up your rates.
Ever fly in an airplane? Most of the flight and even some of the takeoffs and landings on the big planes are completely autonomous. The pilots are really there in case something happens, which I presume would still be the case for autonomous cars - you will still get into situations that hte computer is not programmed for like construction sites or road damage.
Actually even if you don't have a car you have to pay car insurance. Or at least if you did have a car. My friend totaled his car which the insurance company covered, but he elected to not replace it immediately. The insurance company did not really care he no longer had a car and proceeded to charge him monthly regardless - for what they could not say.
Think he could have avoided this cost by cancelling the insurance? Not really. If he cancelled he would have had to pay ridiculous premiums for a) recently totaling a car and b) cancelling insurance. It was cheaper just to keep paying the same insurance company and have a guarantee of the same rates he was paying.
When apps on iOS, Android and even Windows Phone are way better than Blackberry apps and people begin to realise that these types of outages are not possible on those platforms
Outages are not possible on these platforms because BB offers a service that these guys do not. During the outage my phone lost BBB service so I only had the phone, internet, SMS and email services. Basically everything every other smartphone can do.
everything on a Blackberry, including internet usage, goes through continental proxies; not the case on Apple et. al. except for specialised services like iCloud and Gmail and such
Nonsense. My phone was unaffected for internet and messaging. Only BB messaging service was affected.
On top of that, this doesn't do anything for companies like mine that prohibit end-users from installing anything on our Blackberry phones for regulatory reasons.
Ah - so you are upset that you cannot waste company time by playing Angry Birds...
This is the second major outage RIM has experienced while my company has used their phones.... RIM's going bye-bye
Wow, I really dont understand this backlash for two outages... lets see:
Gmail went down in 2009 and 2011. Those morons at Google just dont understand how to scale for their user demands so I'm cancelling my service as a protect.
Hotmail, MSN and the whole Microsoft cloud go down more than Snooki on JerseyShore. Out goes those incompetent bastards.
Yahoo mail also goes down a lot. Out they go.
I remember both my cable and power going out during a storm. The utility companies clearly don't give a shit about customer service. Cancelling them tomorrow.
Right that is not politically motivated at all. Obama for doing nothing gets a Nobel prize, Bush gets an arrest warrant.
How is it politically motivated when its the international community giving the award? Bush was a moron and driving international relations, specifically US and Russia back to cold war status. Obama came to power and reversed all that - thats part of the reason he got a nobel prize. Republicans seriously need to get their heads out of their collective asses.
Please do some research before you write nonsense. BB with BES is probably the most secure you can get without going to a special phone designed for government level security.
Sure, you can hack up a connection. Just like as if I said the Ford Fiesta was not an offroad vehicle and then you took it into the back country to prove me wrong. Yes you can do it its just not designed for it. So yes, and Android or iPhone can connect to the corporate network in a fashion, but they are not designed as a corporate enterprise phone.
Ok thanks. Nokia is the #1 smartphone maker in the world and Android is the #1 smartphone OS. I just assumed they were related. I actually don't know anyone with an Android phone myself.
So what you are saying is you believe the only 'security' BB has is they have proprietary servers, whereas on the other hand the iPhone is secure because it uses 2048 SSL? I think you are ignorant of the various phone security features.
But it just doesn't do it seamlessly. Besides the much lower batterylife on IOS devices with activesynch push, it doesn't seem to be reliable:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1868
iPhones and Android phones have both been able to integrate into corporate networks *RUNNING EXCHANGE* for quite a while
Sure it can, just not as well as a BB. As Microsoft states: iOS 4 ActiveSync issue reflects Apple's priorities. "They don't have a vested interest in the load on an Exchange server... The iPhone is not meant to be an enterprise device
Indian Indian, otherwise I would have said Native American.
Europeans generally called things wrong which is also why the Turkey is called a Turkey.
Actually even the term 'American' is wrong as it almost universally refers to those who reside in the US, however Columbus never landed in what is now the US, but the Bahamas. So he discovered America the continent, but not America the land, nor did he ever see who we now refer to as American Indians.
Also, BB owners shoulda thought of that before buying a phone with a centralized web proxy and messaging!
And Apple / Android owners should have thought about the ability of the government/whoever to eavesdrop on their phone / text messaging before they bought their devices. I choose personal security over an outage every two years any day.
Of all worldwide cellphones yes, but for smartphones they are #2 in the world, right behind Nokia (android), and ahead of Apple. Although why anyone wants to buy an Android and give their money to Microsoft is beyond me.
Yup. Or like my friends Dad who was selling the contents of his apartment as he was leaving town for another job. The FBI showed up and questioned him because one of the neighbors thought he was selling his stuff 'suspiciously' and called the FBI (he was Indian).
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I think, I'll look into Haskell next
Have you tried Prolog? There's an art to that language..
Well since the aurora is a Canadian phenomenon, expect a bill from us for the show. The fact that you slept through it is irrelevant..
Actually I thought he was just another Republican crackpot but I find myself actually agreeing with a lot of his positions...
It's not just the cost to cover the repair, but the odds it will happen again. If you constantly have accidents then you will pay a lot more as they know you are likely the problem and likely will have more accidents.
Most insurance company here let you have one no premium increase at fault accident. More than that though and the odds are you are the problem and not just bad luck so they jack up your rates.
Ever fly in an airplane? Most of the flight and even some of the takeoffs and landings on the big planes are completely autonomous. The pilots are really there in case something happens, which I presume would still be the case for autonomous cars - you will still get into situations that hte computer is not programmed for like construction sites or road damage.
Actually even if you don't have a car you have to pay car insurance. Or at least if you did have a car. My friend totaled his car which the insurance company covered, but he elected to not replace it immediately. The insurance company did not really care he no longer had a car and proceeded to charge him monthly regardless - for what they could not say.
Think he could have avoided this cost by cancelling the insurance? Not really. If he cancelled he would have had to pay ridiculous premiums for a) recently totaling a car and b) cancelling insurance. It was cheaper just to keep paying the same insurance company and have a guarantee of the same rates he was paying.
When apps on iOS, Android and even Windows Phone are way better than Blackberry apps and people begin to realise that these types of outages are not possible on those platforms
Outages are not possible on these platforms because BB offers a service that these guys do not. During the outage my phone lost BBB service so I only had the phone, internet, SMS and email services. Basically everything every other smartphone can do.
everything on a Blackberry, including internet usage, goes through continental proxies; not the case on Apple et. al. except for specialised services like iCloud and Gmail and such
Nonsense. My phone was unaffected for internet and messaging. Only BB messaging service was affected.
On top of that, this doesn't do anything for companies like mine that prohibit end-users from installing anything on our Blackberry phones for regulatory reasons.
Ah - so you are upset that you cannot waste company time by playing Angry Birds...
Actually for me its an awesome deal for being completely unaffected in the slightest way at all.
This is the second major outage RIM has experienced while my company has used their phones.... RIM's going bye-bye
Wow, I really dont understand this backlash for two outages... lets see:
Gmail went down in 2009 and 2011. Those morons at Google just dont understand how to scale for their user demands so I'm cancelling my service as a protect.
Hotmail, MSN and the whole Microsoft cloud go down more than Snooki on JerseyShore. Out goes those incompetent bastards.
Yahoo mail also goes down a lot. Out they go.
I remember both my cable and power going out during a storm. The utility companies clearly don't give a shit about customer service. Cancelling them tomorrow.
Seriously why pick on RIM? get a grip.
Right that is not politically motivated at all. Obama for doing nothing gets a Nobel prize, Bush gets an arrest warrant.
How is it politically motivated when its the international community giving the award? Bush was a moron and driving international relations, specifically US and Russia back to cold war status. Obama came to power and reversed all that - thats part of the reason he got a nobel prize. Republicans seriously need to get their heads out of their collective asses.
At least Obama does not have an international warrant out for his arrest like Bush Jr does: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/12/amnesty-canada-required-to-arrest-george-w-bush/
Please do some research before you write nonsense. BB with BES is probably the most secure you can get without going to a special phone designed for government level security.
Sure, you can hack up a connection. Just like as if I said the Ford Fiesta was not an offroad vehicle and then you took it into the back country to prove me wrong. Yes you can do it its just not designed for it. So yes, and Android or iPhone can connect to the corporate network in a fashion, but they are not designed as a corporate enterprise phone.
Ok thanks. Nokia is the #1 smartphone maker in the world and Android is the #1 smartphone OS. I just assumed they were related. I actually don't know anyone with an Android phone myself.
So what you are saying is you believe the only 'security' BB has is they have proprietary servers, whereas on the other hand the iPhone is secure because it uses 2048 SSL? I think you are ignorant of the various phone security features.
I'm not even sure why this is an argument. The law is very clear on the responsibilities on people that find lost property and their rights to it.
But it just doesn't do it seamlessly. Besides the much lower batterylife on IOS devices with activesynch push, it doesn't seem to be reliable: http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1868
http://www.security-technologynews.com/news/uae-bans-blackberry-services.html
http://darkwap.mobi/technology-stuff/Blackberry-Ban-in-India
iPhones and Android phones have both been able to integrate into corporate networks *RUNNING EXCHANGE* for quite a while
Sure it can, just not as well as a BB. As Microsoft states: iOS 4 ActiveSync issue reflects Apple's priorities. "They don't have a vested interest in the load on an Exchange server ... The iPhone is not meant to be an enterprise device
Indian Indian, otherwise I would have said Native American.
Europeans generally called things wrong which is also why the Turkey is called a Turkey.
Actually even the term 'American' is wrong as it almost universally refers to those who reside in the US, however Columbus never landed in what is now the US, but the Bahamas. So he discovered America the continent, but not America the land, nor did he ever see who we now refer to as American Indians.
iPhones and Android phones have both been able to integrate into corporate networks for quite a while.
iPhones and Android phones have both been able to *UNSECURELY* integrate into corporate networks for quite a while.
Also, BB owners shoulda thought of that before buying a phone with a centralized web proxy and messaging!
And Apple / Android owners should have thought about the ability of the government/whoever to eavesdrop on their phone / text messaging before they bought their devices. I choose personal security over an outage every two years any day.
Of all worldwide cellphones yes, but for smartphones they are #2 in the world, right behind Nokia (android), and ahead of Apple. Although why anyone wants to buy an Android and give their money to Microsoft is beyond me.
Yup. Or like my friends Dad who was selling the contents of his apartment as he was leaving town for another job. The FBI showed up and questioned him because one of the neighbors thought he was selling his stuff 'suspiciously' and called the FBI (he was Indian).