These actually used the exhaust to blow past the core and cool it to keep it from going critical. Worked but the exhaust was then radioactive. Also you had to keep a minimum amount of thrust or the cooling effect wasn't sufficient and it would explode.
A good science experiment but completely useless for human space travel.
There's always an unknown. However if they had the foam falling off in the same database as the shuttle wing design, the shuttle accident would have still happened.
When the first foam fell off the situation was analyzed and deemed to be acceptable. The analysis and conclusions were obviously wrong and a centralized database wouldn't have changed anything.
I'm not being sarcastic or obtuse. I'm being realistic.
It's an unrealistic example because the subsystems simply do not work that way. The system is designed, and all the subsystems (supplied by contractors) get a very detailed and specific list of requirements. You have to meet all the requirements or you simply are not allowed to integrate your system. So when the avionics company got the contract for the electronics, they would have received a list of requirements that included the launch vibrations that they had to survive at. This would be a value with enough margin on known launch vibrations that even if the booster rocket exceeded the spec it would be ok (after a very painful review and requirement waiver process - if they even let the booster company ship without meeting the requirements). The avionics company does not need to know any details about any other part of the system as long as they stay compliant to their requirements.
All of the subcontractors develop their subsystems in almost complete isolation of all the others, with NASA playing referee moving budgets (mass, power, etc) arounds and keeping track of the overall requirements. The avionics guys would never even talk to the booster guys nor to any other unrelated subsystem.
In space there is no such thing as "introduce fatal problems through unexpected interactions between issues". The programs are setup in such a manner to not allow that to happen. Thats one of the big reasons why it is so expensive to develop anything for space.
I'm not saying that a common problem tracking database wouldn't make NASAs job easier - it would. It would not however save lives as all of the major issues that are mission critial have been worked through already, becoming the source of the subsystem requirements.
Well since that is a completely unrealistic example that would never happen, you cant really use it to justify your position.
As a subcontractor to NASA I dont really see how centralizing the databases provides any life savings benefit. Time and money yes obviously, life saving, no.
RTA - it was to replace a large number of proprietary databases spread across numerous subcontractors with a single common solution hosted locally at NASA. It saves costs and time, but not lives.
Delaware can be verified. (catch a plane, yada yada)
Why would I catch a plane to a place that doesn't exist? Do you claim to have ever been to Delaware?
The existence of Loch ness has not been shown in any conversation (that I know of) that had a basis in observed reality. Same goes for God, and the dog's sixth sense hypothesis.
I've seen people on TV that claim to have seen the Loch Ness monster. It is certainly plausible that some 'dinosaur' era animal has survived to this day somewhere. Many people have claimed to have heard God and witnessed unexplainable events. For the most part these people seem credible.
I bet that you believe that sunlight creates vitamin E in the body. Think about that for a minute - a giant ball of gas 8 light minutes away can make your body to create vitamins just by you lying in its glare - wacky, yet most people take that claim at face value.
I dont think that in any conversation that you can convince me that Delaware actually exists.
Thimerosal (mercury) is only used in multi-dose vials. Although these are legal in the US, they are in practice not used here. The chances you received any thimerosal in your flu shot if you got in the US is almost nil.
No, you are almost guaranteed to get a shot with thimerosal because most flu shots are multi-dose. Since they guess as to the strain that will be prevalent, they generally make shots that protect against several strains at once.
In addition to mercury, these shots also have aluminum and formaldehyde. Mercury and Aluminum are neurological poisons-they accumulate in the brain. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen and is used to embalm the dead. There is no safe level of formaldehyde established for injection into a living organism.
I do agree with the OP that two years of the last decade the WHO predicted which strains would be dominant in the US incorrectly and thus the shot didn't immunize the recipient properly against the strains they would actually face.
Since I have never had the flu (in the past 10 years anyway) I fail to see why I should get an injection. If you are susceptible or if it would be hazardous to get the flu, then by all means if you choose to do it then get the shot. But injecting a perfectly healthy person with chemicals known to cause problems simply doesn't make any sense. My body, my choice as to what goes into it.
How about, regardless of party, stop electing lying, incompetent stupid jackasses as leaders.
And why not use the impeachment process for what it was intended - removing the incompetent (like fabricating evidence for a war) instead of for extra marital affairs.
Leaving it alone as a failed state that harbors terrorists who want to kill American citizens doesn't seem like a good alternative.
You're missing the point. It was the CIA led initiatives that CREATED the terrorists in the first place. The fundamentalists were there before, but it took the US to actually organize them, train them, fund them and give them weapons and resources that they would never have received on their own.
Before the US got involved, they were tribal, fighting with rifles on horseback. Do you really think they were a threat to the US like that?
So when Russia invades a country to keep "religious nutbars" in check, it's okay?
So when the US creates problem like Afghanistan, Iran-Iraq, Bin Laden, etc. through crappy foreign policy, then has to go in and kill more people to clean up the first mess, that's ok?
In March 1985, the Reagan administration issued National Security Decision Directive 166,29 a secret plan to escalate covert action in Afghanistan dramatically:
Abandoning a policy of simple harassment of Soviet occupiers, the Reagan team decided secretly to let loose on the Afghan battlefield an array of U.S. high technology and military expertise in an effort to hit and demoralize Soviet commanders and soldiers....
...
By 1987, the annual supply of arms had reached 65,000 tons, and a "ceaseless stream" of CIA and Pentagon officials were visiting Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) headquarters in Rawalpindi and helping to plan mujahideen operations
...
As well as training and recruiting Afghan nationals to fight the Soviets, the CIA permitted its ISI allies to recruit Muslim extremists from around the world. Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid reports:
Between 1982 and 1992, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries in the Middle East, North and East Africa, Central Asia and the Far East would pass their baptism under fire with the Afghan mujahideen. Tens of thousands more foreign Muslim radicals came to study in the hundreds of new madrassas [religious schools] that Zia's military government began to fund in Pakistan and along the Afghan border. Eventually more than 100,000 Muslim radicals were to have direct contact with Pakistan and Afghanistan and be influenced by the jihad [against the USSR]
In any event we don't really need more research. We already know that the best solution is to put it in a geologically stable and dry mountain.
Actually the best solution was to store it on the moon on the opposite side of the moonbase. However the stockpile reached critical mass in 2001 and blasted the moon and it's moonbase inhabitants on a wacky event filled ride across the solar system.
Don't be ridiculous. Santa Claus has frickin' website. Although a little known secret is that Mr. Claus actually lives in Marietta, GA, and his real name is Jim, all of which can be confirmed by doing a whois on northpole.com.
Don't be ridiculous. The North Pole is in Canada, and even has a Canadian mail address and postal code:
No, they invaded Afghanistan because they knew if they didn't a bunch of religious nutbars would take over. That was the only thing keeping the fundamentalist terrorists in check.
Of course the Regan administration saw this as 'godless commies repressing religious freedom' and started training and passing arms to the Afghan rebels to fight the communists. Russia eventually saw this as an unwinnable war and pulled out.
That provided the path for the religious nutbars to take over Afghanistan which brings us to the modern day mess we have there.
That really didn't stop Regan from being elected in a second time. I find it appalling that Nancy and her astrologer were running the country for six years.
The problem is, that a sheep with a gun is not likely to become dinner at all, and probably won't need to actually use the gun. Your comment doesn't take this into account.
It doesn't take that into account because it is a false premise of gun toting nutjobs.
I posted the second verse because many try to twist the first to say it was about scripture or something.
If you go a little further you find:
Luke 22:49 When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" 50And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.
Luke 22:51 But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.
Blanket statements from Christians always make me giggle.
'Thou shalt not kill' is pretty simple to understand, even for a nutjob Republican such as yourself.
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These actually used the exhaust to blow past the core and cool it to keep it from going critical. Worked but the exhaust was then radioactive. Also you had to keep a minimum amount of thrust or the cooling effect wasn't sufficient and it would explode.
A good science experiment but completely useless for human space travel.
Correct!
There's always an unknown. However if they had the foam falling off in the same database as the shuttle wing design, the shuttle accident would have still happened.
When the first foam fell off the situation was analyzed and deemed to be acceptable. The analysis and conclusions were obviously wrong and a centralized database wouldn't have changed anything.
I'm not being sarcastic or obtuse. I'm being realistic.
It's an unrealistic example because the subsystems simply do not work that way. The system is designed, and all the subsystems (supplied by contractors) get a very detailed and specific list of requirements. You have to meet all the requirements or you simply are not allowed to integrate your system. So when the avionics company got the contract for the electronics, they would have received a list of requirements that included the launch vibrations that they had to survive at. This would be a value with enough margin on known launch vibrations that even if the booster rocket exceeded the spec it would be ok (after a very painful review and requirement waiver process - if they even let the booster company ship without meeting the requirements). The avionics company does not need to know any details about any other part of the system as long as they stay compliant to their requirements.
All of the subcontractors develop their subsystems in almost complete isolation of all the others, with NASA playing referee moving budgets (mass, power, etc) arounds and keeping track of the overall requirements. The avionics guys would never even talk to the booster guys nor to any other unrelated subsystem.
In space there is no such thing as "introduce fatal problems through unexpected interactions between issues". The programs are setup in such a manner to not allow that to happen. Thats one of the big reasons why it is so expensive to develop anything for space.
I'm not saying that a common problem tracking database wouldn't make NASAs job easier - it would. It would not however save lives as all of the major issues that are mission critial have been worked through already, becoming the source of the subsystem requirements.
Well since that is a completely unrealistic example that would never happen, you cant really use it to justify your position.
As a subcontractor to NASA I dont really see how centralizing the databases provides any life savings benefit. Time and money yes obviously, life saving, no.
RTA - it was to replace a large number of proprietary databases spread across numerous subcontractors with a single common solution hosted locally at NASA. It saves costs and time, but not lives.
It'll save money sure, but I think it is a huge stretch to say that open source bug tracking will save lives. It will do no such thing.
Who the hell let the care bear on the internet?
Delaware can be verified. (catch a plane, yada yada)
Why would I catch a plane to a place that doesn't exist? Do you claim to have ever been to Delaware?
The existence of Loch ness has not been shown in any conversation (that I know of) that had a basis in observed reality. Same goes for God, and the dog's sixth sense hypothesis.
I've seen people on TV that claim to have seen the Loch Ness monster. It is certainly plausible that some 'dinosaur' era animal has survived to this day somewhere. Many people have claimed to have heard God and witnessed unexplainable events. For the most part these people seem credible.
I bet that you believe that sunlight creates vitamin E in the body. Think about that for a minute - a giant ball of gas 8 light minutes away can make your body to create vitamins just by you lying in its glare - wacky, yet most people take that claim at face value.
I dont think that in any conversation that you can convince me that Delaware actually exists.
Theres a lot of anecdotal evidence for God and Loch Ness monster.. I don't believe in any of these for the same reason.
That's ok. I don't believe in Delaware. Never seen it - never met anyone from there. Even the name sounds made up.
There's lots of anecdotal evidence to say they can. What makes you so certain they cant?
Thimerosal (mercury) is only used in multi-dose vials. Although these are legal in the US, they are in practice not used here. The chances you received any thimerosal in your flu shot if you got in the US is almost nil.
No, you are almost guaranteed to get a shot with thimerosal because most flu shots are multi-dose. Since they guess as to the strain that will be prevalent, they generally make shots that protect against several strains at once.
In addition to mercury, these shots also have aluminum and formaldehyde. Mercury and Aluminum are neurological poisons-they accumulate in the brain. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen and is used to embalm the dead. There is no safe level of formaldehyde established for injection into a living organism.
I do agree with the OP that two years of the last decade the WHO predicted which strains would be dominant in the US incorrectly and thus the shot didn't immunize the recipient properly against the strains they would actually face.
Since I have never had the flu (in the past 10 years anyway) I fail to see why I should get an injection. If you are susceptible or if it would be hazardous to get the flu, then by all means if you choose to do it then get the shot. But injecting a perfectly healthy person with chemicals known to cause problems simply doesn't make any sense. My body, my choice as to what goes into it.
How about, regardless of party, stop electing lying, incompetent stupid jackasses as leaders.
And why not use the impeachment process for what it was intended - removing the incompetent (like fabricating evidence for a war) instead of for extra marital affairs.
No, the proof is ALWAYS in good pudding - i.e. raisins. If there are raisins in there then its damn good pudding.
Sure .. watch the movie "Charlie Wilson's War"
Good job Republicans at the behest of a Democratic congressman
Yea, but he was from Texas - there are no real Democrats from Texas..
Leaving it alone as a failed state that harbors terrorists who want to kill American citizens doesn't seem like a good alternative.
You're missing the point. It was the CIA led initiatives that CREATED the terrorists in the first place. The fundamentalists were there before, but it took the US to actually organize them, train them, fund them and give them weapons and resources that they would never have received on their own.
Before the US got involved, they were tribal, fighting with rifles on horseback. Do you really think they were a threat to the US like that?
So when Russia invades a country to keep "religious nutbars" in check, it's okay?
So when the US creates problem like Afghanistan, Iran-Iraq, Bin Laden, etc. through crappy foreign policy, then has to go in and kill more people to clean up the first mess, that's ok?
Yes Carter started it, but it was mainly a CIA operation. It took Reagan to dramatically increase funding and US involvement:
From http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html
In March 1985, the Reagan administration issued National Security Decision Directive 166,29 a secret plan to escalate covert action in Afghanistan dramatically: Abandoning a policy of simple harassment of Soviet occupiers, the Reagan team decided secretly to let loose on the Afghan battlefield an array of U.S. high technology and military expertise in an effort to hit and demoralize Soviet commanders and soldiers....
...
By 1987, the annual supply of arms had reached 65,000 tons, and a "ceaseless stream" of CIA and Pentagon officials were visiting Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) headquarters in Rawalpindi and helping to plan mujahideen operations
...
As well as training and recruiting Afghan nationals to fight the Soviets, the CIA permitted its ISI allies to recruit Muslim extremists from around the world. Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid reports: Between 1982 and 1992, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries in the Middle East, North and East Africa, Central Asia and the Far East would pass their baptism under fire with the Afghan mujahideen. Tens of thousands more foreign Muslim radicals came to study in the hundreds of new madrassas [religious schools] that Zia's military government began to fund in Pakistan and along the Afghan border. Eventually more than 100,000 Muslim radicals were to have direct contact with Pakistan and Afghanistan and be influenced by the jihad [against the USSR]
Like I said - Good job Republicans!
In any event we don't really need more research. We already know that the best solution is to put it in a geologically stable and dry mountain.
Actually the best solution was to store it on the moon on the opposite side of the moonbase. However the stockpile reached critical mass in 2001 and blasted the moon and it's moonbase inhabitants on a wacky event filled ride across the solar system.
Don't be ridiculous. Santa Claus has frickin' website. Although a little known secret is that Mr. Claus actually lives in Marietta, GA, and his real name is Jim, all of which can be confirmed by doing a whois on northpole.com.
Don't be ridiculous. The North Pole is in Canada, and even has a Canadian mail address and postal code:
SANTA CLAUS
NORTH POLE H0H 0H0
CANADA
No, they invaded Afghanistan because they knew if they didn't a bunch of religious nutbars would take over. That was the only thing keeping the fundamentalist terrorists in check.
Of course the Regan administration saw this as 'godless commies repressing religious freedom' and started training and passing arms to the Afghan rebels to fight the communists. Russia eventually saw this as an unwinnable war and pulled out.
That provided the path for the religious nutbars to take over Afghanistan which brings us to the modern day mess we have there.
Good job Republicans!
And one in BC, Canada in 1950, although there was no plutonium in that core. http://www.user.dccnet.com/welcomewoods/Nuclear_Free_Georgia_Strait/b_arrow1.html
McCain is going senile.
That really didn't stop Regan from being elected in a second time. I find it appalling that Nancy and her astrologer were running the country for six years.
Are you one of those morons who thinks that Jesus spoke English?
No, Jesus likely spoke Aramaic, and also likely knew Hebrew and Greek.
Are you one of those morons that thinks Jesus wrote the ten commandments? You're off by over a thousand years - think Moses.
The problem is, that a sheep with a gun is not likely to become dinner at all, and probably won't need to actually use the gun. Your comment doesn't take this into account.
It doesn't take that into account because it is a false premise of gun toting nutjobs.
I posted the second verse because many try to twist the first to say it was about scripture or something.
If you go a little further you find:
Luke 22:49 When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" 50And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.
Luke 22:51 But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.
Blanket statements from Christians always make me giggle.
'Thou shalt not kill' is pretty simple to understand, even for a nutjob Republican such as yourself.