Unfortunetly no, I can't give some internet links for where people go berserk and kill with clubs and shivs. The best I can do is point you at the local library and say look up Alcatraz, US prison history,and crimes comitted while in jail. Oh, and especially Jeffrey Dahmer's death.
I am deeply offended that you consider a single family home a deeper problem. I am deeply offended that you consider a lack of love a deeper problem. I agree totally that poverty is a deeper problem. I agree totally that the perception of a lack of love is a deeper problem.
The 3rd paragraph is an excellent rebutal. No, I do not think profiling software is the answer. Properly used, which is a large caveat, it is closer to the answer than metal detectors and security guards. Remember, I was committing purely on you assertation that the 12 years old girl would not have killed with a knife if she knew she would have had to pass through a metal detector. I'm saying that yes, she may not have brought a knife, but that she would have then used another means to kill, perhaps plastic cutlery or aquiring a knife or brick or sharpend stake from elsewhere in the school. Biology has some nice scapels. Stopping her from using the knife would not have stopped her from doing harm.
"There is no way to stop an assasin if they care more for killing thier target than for thier own life. In that situation you can only hope for them to do something stupid." Secret Service member after attempt on Ronald Reagons life.
In psych 101 they show a video of a random person off the street that is mentally healthy. They then tell you of the study performed where this video was shown to psych undergrads, psych grads, psychologists and two other levels of psych training. They were asked what this filmed individuals problems were and if they should be committed. There was a very clear correlation between years of learning/practicing psychology and they number of mental ailments attributed to the filmed man. With the psych undergrads less than 10% thought the man had problems and only a few thought he needed committed. While the psychiatrists rated over 75% thought he had multiple problems with over 50% saying he needed committed. Years of experience != infalibility, it only equals effeciency at what you've done in the past.
And OH MY! Convicts in jail will actually steal spoons, sharpen them and stab other inmates with the spoon. Cups of slurry to them from now on so everyone will be safe. Couldn't it be that this girl was just bad, as in evil, and would have killed with something else if the pocket knife wasn't available? What is up with the recent object fixations? If she only didn't have a knife? If they only didn't have ready access to automatic firearms? Don't you think there is a deeper problem that you are glossing over by focussing on the method instead of the perpatrator? Some people are just EVIL, you either can lock them away or change them, anything else is just treating symptoms.
"But why a spoon and not a knife?"-Sheriff of Knottingham "Becuase it would hurt more!"-False King John
As a thought experiment, lets suppose you have a school with metal detectors and guards. Lets further suppose you have decided to attempt to attack several students with automatic gun fire. THOUGHT EXPERIMENT!!! Chill! Now we assume you have access to automatic weapons and at least one accomplice. You now must get past metal detectors that are in a fixed location and are manned in a highly patterned way. How do you get through them? You don't, only an idiot would try to sneak a gun through a metal detector. Unless it is ceramic, which we will assume your weapons are not. Thus you use another entrance. Assuming they are locked in some form from the outside you have probly more than a dozen ways of sneaking them in. I of course can't list any as they would be very specific to the building and the usage patterns.
Personally, from an attackers point of view, metal detectors actually make a masacre situation easier to carry out by creating more "patterns in usage" which all tacticians love to take advantage of. You spinkle a few false positives that weeks before which hieghtens sensitivity, then have a day or two of normal opperation to take the administration into the trough of responsiveness. This coupled with the already false security afforded by the detectors would put the adminstration firmly behind the eight ball in responsiveness.
As for the security guards, this would also be highly dependant on patterns of usage. Do they walk the same predetermined patterns of the halls. What is the repsonse of calls for aid, fire alarms, etc. Do they carry guns? stun guns? billy clubs? pepper spray? Are they locally known in the community or hired thugs from outside? (This can highly effect the likelyhood of returning fire)
For the security guards I would use smoke bombs and lady-finger firecrackers to sow confusion. If they are trigger happy, they may end up killing more students in smokey hallways than the actually perpetrators. Tactical combat says to turn a negative into a positive, use the guards to your advantage.
As for all the other fire-code mandated exits that are possibly locked to prevent entrance, you now have multiple blind alleys to herd individuals into.
Now that I'm done scaring myself let me say my opinion is that metal detectors are bad. They harass good students by making it a wrong to bring metal to school. And as for the future shootists, they will boil until they find a way around the problem. Whereas without metal detectors good students aren't harassed. Bad students will come to school with knives and crowbars, but then you can identify them before they move up to hand guns and pipe bombs.
As for security guards it is much the same, good students WILL be harassed, there is nothing you can do to elimante that. And bad students will avoid them or use them to harass the good students. (Sneak a pound of Mary Jane into school and stuff it into lockers, bags, etc.)
Pretty much all parents and adminstration is saying is we can't solve the problem, so we will "Duck and Cover". Tommy the Turtle says. "Duck, and cover."
I read a book around age thirteen on the effects of radiation. Such as how many rads a scorpion could take before dying, the dosage that would cause human sterility, etc. You get the idea. It was mostly composed from documents from the military about nuclear testing. In one chapter it talked about some of the extranious info that they compiled. One was a document from a general or admiral, a higher up, that green plastic trash bags offer protection against radiation. Not black, or white, or beige, or brown, but only GREEN platic trash bags. This nugget of information has been the seed for all my skepticism about Reputable People Making Irreputable Decessions. FYI & most definitely off topic.
I may be wrong, but, when starting a body from rest, like on a launch pad, don't you need a significant amount of energy just to start out? And even if this is not so, I've watched how long a rocket spends not moving after its engines have started, just building up the Newtons to push to rocket up. This wasted energy/ rocket fuel/weight can just be removed.
In my day we didn't have these fancy-shmancy keyboards. We entered everything with punch cards. And we got paper cuts and we liked it. Yah, it may have taken 138 hours to enter a program, if it had no miss punches, but we liked it. Liked it just FINE. You new kids and your punk keyboards. "Oh look at me, I can enter 110 characters per minute. I can code so fast. Laudy-Daudy Dah-dah-dah." Horse whoey! And these CRT thingies. We had to use a meter to measure the ones and zeroes of our registers cuse we were real men. All real men, except for Mike Glick who turned out to be a hoover. And we liked it just FINE. Well, all except for those dresses he wore, he was an uuuuugly women. Now Francene, there was a tall drink of water, a real fine women. Worked in the steno-pool. And we liked her just FINE. Where was I? Oh yah. You punks and your broad-band net access. Well we had nets first. Optic nets that worked just dandy, hook them up to signal lights and you can transmit a good mile on a clear night. Want fiber? We just flashed the light down a fat cast iron pipe. Fat-pipe! Get it? Get it? Blah, yah stupid kids. Now yah want computers that sit on your tables and don't gash you open when you replace a vac tube or mem stick or whatever you call those doohickies now. Real men bleed for thier systems. Now old George was 23 years my senior and he died in the mainframe. Well, we guess he did cause when those tubes het up you just hope to suffocate before you crisp. Not our fault, no siree. We new the life of a vac changer was short, we liked it just FINE. Stupid kids and their gizmos, always running without checking thier code, no respect, no respect at all, stupid memory protection makes them all soft, one memory space, real men, FINE, poor George, owed him a saw from the poker, damn mice chewing wires, where's my pills....................
I'm really annoyed that you would stereo-type the scientific community like that. But what can I expect from a person who has no girlfriend, a room full of computer parts that maybe partial work, 4 gigs of porn, and a bootleg copy of The Matrix.
I like how I worked the "you must be male" stereo-type in there. Well, speaking for me and nearly all of the Ames lab people who work in Ames, not the damn one out in the desert, we read all the fiction you alude to and more. Where the hell do you think we get new ideas for research? We read some SF and then say, "Hey Mike, you think this could really be done." Then 3 grants and 4 years latter we have quasi-crystal coated cook pans selling on informercials. Reasearchers know what can go wrong and sometimes it scares them shitless. But to be a scientist you have to be an optomist. You have to hope that by the time your Science turns into Technology that the human race is mature enough for it. Which it never is, and that is life.
And one good sneeze could take out your connection.
I can see a rise in lung related illnesses from too much time in front of the internet cloud (swarm?) Or how about, "Sorry teacher, I ate my homework. It settled on my cornflakes and I thought it was sugar."
Thanks to the beauty of the PBS Bass'O'Matic you too can produce a three part series that hypes your own book and ego. You don't believe us? Well let us prove it with this side-by-side challenge:
The car on the right is fueled by galvaston XT267-23 (after 5pm DT283-73 ext.164) and the car on the left is powered by Cringely's ego. And...there off. Galvaston XT267-23 (after 5pm DT283-73 ext.164) begins to pull ahead, it looks like and early lead for galvaston XT267-23 (after 5pm DT283-73 ext.164). Wait, Cringely's ego is building up RPMs, yes, Cringely's ego is taking the lead. And at the finish is...a big hole. Cringely's ego falls into the hole and is never seen again. This is why we must all be on constant guard against the Red Menance.
Yes, the Red Menance, working title for The Phantom Menance, a rather silly story about a boy and his dog, his dog being a robot, a robot he built himself from scraps of other dogs, those dogs also being robots that were scrapped. The boy falls down a well, that well being a wormhole through which he travels to other planets, other planets that all look like parts of the english countryside. There he meets a mad hatter and march hare, played by Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor. They enjoy a nice spot of tea and exchange names, signs, and blaster fire with a few of the queen's (played by a man I know was in "Brazil") guards, played by some ones and zereos organized in video buffers......"NO NO NO, now stop this! This is much to silly. Return to disparaging Cringley or I'll have to stop this for good."
Cringely can bite my caunnish. canaush? tomAto? tOmato?
As to the orignal thread of this discussion, I believe this is a good example of what Mac/NextStep/Be can add to a UI movement. That being you can smack someone down infront of a Win32 style GUI, look at what works. Change the GUI to a Mac style, take some more notes. And so forth to find out what really works. No bitching about processors or sub-systems or OS services since they are the same.
As a side note, and I know this is completely out of order and slightly ethically wrong but: Is it not ironic that your present project is working on www.douglasadams.com , when Douglas Adams has been a long time advocate for the Macintosh platform and written several pieces berating the Win32. I'll assume you have and therefore there's the irony.
The real crux of the matter is: Will a large influx of Win32 programmers direct the future of Linux/OSS or will Linux/OSS put these programmers to good use? We're making the tools (social/code) right now that will decide.
As I see it, when you pay the $1 per port, you are paying for the R&D that goes into Firewire. That it will: a) Work with everyone elses b) Know of any pitfalls/shortcomings c) Not cause a splinter in the marketplace (ISDN Anyone?) d) Allow you to ride others success (There are at least 2 companies trying to be the Dolby of Firewire)
Right now everyone is in the same boat. If Pete's Hardware and Dave's Hardware both make firewire speakers, they will both be charged/ing $1 per port and thier respective razor thin profits will be the same. The only people getting a break are the really big guys that always get the breaks or do the R&D.
Of course you can just create a firewire compatible system for $$$$ R&D. Also, of course, all the companies that do this will charge others to use thier firewire clone. Say for $0.50 a little over a year from now.
Or you can wait for 2-3 years for a completely defined standard that costs little to nothing. Of course by this time firewire will be strong enough not to be splintered by crappy rip-offs claiming to be improvements. (the previous posts about beta vs. VHS)
In the end, you will end up paying for R&D somewhere, TANSTAAFL. Just like Technocolor, Dolby AC3, OmniMax, PCI, Pentium, or RCA's original TV system, etc.
Vote with your wallets. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Who would go on this mission? a) Why convicts, of course. They have no choice, and we outfit each with an exploding collar from "The Running Man." b) People that hate Sol system politics/society/yellow suns/bread from earth grains/mayonaise/luffa sponges/etc. c) Scientologists d) Dumb people we can trick onto it with a trail of Recee's Pieces. e) Microsoft Tech Help, all six of them.
Well, maybe not all six of the Microsoft tech help. We need to save 2 as breeding pairs.
As for a y2k society (1) you would look to SF for the answers. Presently unable to remember the title or author. The plot is: Aztec society on inside of cylinder believes that gods are angry over past indescretion and sealed people into valley, will release when they are no longer angry. Also, gods decree that you will only marry people from your side of the river. Christian Flaguelent (sp?) group lives inside hull and is in charge of wathcing over Aztec to keep population within correct bounds, keep them from becoming to curious, and keep the 2 sides of the river from interbreeding. Thus we have to societies traveling to some habital planet over very long time. When they get there, supposedly intermarriage between the Aztec from different sides of the river will release the recessive SuperGenius contained within. Thus, hunky-dory, they will arrive at planet without wiping out eachother and by starting in savagery, end in wisdom...blah,blah,blah... anyone know the name of this???
And what ever happened to smaller, faster, cheaper??? It would be much more intelligent to send out 1,000 ships of 1,000 people at 1/50th the speed of light. Smaller. Faster. Cheaper. And why the hell does he not use a ion drive. We're talkin some huge distances which are perfect for this technology.
PK-Cola, obey my greed, buy my poduct.
(1) (hey, wouldn't it be a funny think if all of them died due to a bug with y2k,y3k,or y4k; just within the new solar system)
I think your idea is great! Wonderful! Uber-cool! Lets extend it into the realm of humor. In order to USE humor, you must pass a few tests such as:
a) showing you have timing and delivery ability. b) delivering 50 jokes to a set "focus group", scoring at least above 70% laughs. c) essay test where you must create 3 jokes on-the-fly containing subject matter given. d) ability to take beating from a bad crowd. Say, 10 minutes stading infront of a brick wall w/ mic. while crowd laughs at wrong spots for first 5 minutes, and then BOOs for last 5. e) balancing ability - Must provide entertainment for group for 25 minutes using only material that is insulting. Andrew Dice Clay imitation not allowed.
All these test can be waived by appearing at least 3 times on "Who's Line Is It Anyway" or a similiar certified venue.
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Well, you see, his point is that there are 3 ways for analysts to extrapolate the growth curve, and 1 way for math to do it. The point being analysts go with what they believe, and then cloak it in facts, while math tends to be way more objective. I don't know if I agree with his conclusions about linux growth, but then again, I haven't seen a sampling that can be used for a good model.
A few important points he has forgotten to mention / overlooked.
a) Just as there were waves of propriatary that flowed into open standards, the wave does flow back and forth. Look at the propriatary *nix around (Sun, Digital, SGI).
b) Just as "in the begining there was one" AT&T Unix was cast out from the Tower of Babel and made to speak many languages unknown to eachother. (If he can do Dinosuars, I can do Old Testament.) When will the great fork occur in Linux? It will come one day, it's just a when.
c) And by his logic Linux will one day be surplanted by something else, *shrug*, but that's no big thing. (And will take at least 15 years by his numbers)
d) A big question is: Does Linux want to be the biggest? I know most reactions will be "hell yah!", but that leads to the question why?
e) And here's the scariest extrapolation from his logic. Just as the dinosaurs died out and mammals eventually took over, now it is assumed that the dinosuars actually became today's birds. Will windows make a similiar sideways leap in evolution, giving up size for flight? (I hope it doesn't peck out my eyes)
Any and all views voiced here are mine right now, they might be different tomorrow, but I don't think so.
Now, what if Uhg showed all his friends fire. And they all take fire and ignore Uhg. Now Uhg is a pretty poor hunter but he is a good thinker (having 12 more neurons than any other Ooks in Crog valley). Well eventually Uhg dies hungry, ironically after trying to improve fire with black goo called Rhelm big woolies get cuaght in. You see, just as the greatest thing a person can do is allow free use of an invention, a being should be given by the world as much as he gives out. Otherwise why would he share anything if he gets nothing in return? This is real world, greed IS a factor, or your dead. I'm not saying you shouldn't allow everyone to use it, since you should. But also you should get compensated for what you created.
On a side note, I've read that the inventor of the guillotine lost his head at his own device, hows that for irony.
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Unfortunetly no, I can't give some internet links for where people go berserk and kill with clubs and shivs. The best I can do is point you at the local library and say look up Alcatraz, US prison history,and crimes comitted while in jail. Oh, and especially Jeffrey Dahmer's death.
I am deeply offended that you consider a single family home a deeper problem. I am deeply offended that you consider a lack of love a deeper problem. I agree totally that poverty is a deeper problem. I agree totally that the perception of a lack of love is a deeper problem.
The 3rd paragraph is an excellent rebutal. No, I do not think profiling software is the answer. Properly used, which is a large caveat, it is closer to the answer than metal detectors and security guards. Remember, I was committing purely on you assertation that the 12 years old girl would not have killed with a knife if she knew she would have had to pass through a metal detector. I'm saying that yes, she may not have brought a knife, but that she would have then used another means to kill, perhaps plastic cutlery or aquiring a knife or brick or sharpend stake from elsewhere in the school. Biology has some nice scapels. Stopping her from using the knife would not have stopped her from doing harm.
"There is no way to stop an assasin if they care more for killing thier target than for thier own life. In that situation you can only hope for them to do something stupid." Secret Service member after attempt on Ronald Reagons life.
In psych 101 they show a video of a random person off the street that is mentally healthy. They then tell you of the study performed where this video was shown to psych undergrads, psych grads, psychologists and two other levels of psych training. They were asked what this filmed individuals problems were and if they should be committed. There was a very clear correlation between years of learning/practicing psychology and they number of mental ailments attributed to the filmed man. With the psych undergrads less than 10% thought the man had problems and only a few thought he needed committed. While the psychiatrists rated over 75% thought he had multiple problems with over 50% saying he needed committed. Years of experience != infalibility, it only equals effeciency at what you've done in the past.
And OH MY! Convicts in jail will actually steal spoons, sharpen them and stab other inmates with the spoon. Cups of slurry to them from now on so everyone will be safe. Couldn't it be that this girl was just bad, as in evil, and would have killed with something else if the pocket knife wasn't available? What is up with the recent object fixations? If she only didn't have a knife? If they only didn't have ready access to automatic firearms? Don't you think there is a deeper problem that you are glossing over by focussing on the method instead of the perpatrator? Some people are just EVIL, you either can lock them away or change them, anything else is just treating symptoms.
"But why a spoon and not a knife?"-Sheriff of Knottingham
"Becuase it would hurt more!"-False King John
As a thought experiment, lets suppose you have a school with metal detectors and guards. Lets further suppose you have decided to attempt to attack several students with automatic gun fire. THOUGHT EXPERIMENT!!! Chill! Now we assume you have access to automatic weapons and at least one accomplice. You now must get past metal detectors that are in a fixed location and are manned in a highly patterned way. How do you get through them? You don't, only an idiot would try to sneak a gun through a metal detector. Unless it is ceramic, which we will assume your weapons are not. Thus you use another entrance. Assuming they are locked in some form from the outside you have probly more than a dozen ways of sneaking them in. I of course can't list any as they would be very specific to the building and the usage patterns.
Personally, from an attackers point of view, metal detectors actually make a masacre situation easier to carry out by creating more "patterns in usage" which all tacticians love to take advantage of. You spinkle a few false positives that weeks before which hieghtens sensitivity, then have a day or two of normal opperation to take the administration into the trough of responsiveness. This coupled with the already false security afforded by the detectors would put the adminstration firmly behind the eight ball in responsiveness.
As for the security guards, this would also be highly dependant on patterns of usage. Do they walk the same predetermined patterns of the halls. What is the repsonse of calls for aid, fire alarms, etc. Do they carry guns? stun guns? billy clubs? pepper spray? Are they locally known in the community or hired thugs from outside? (This can highly effect the likelyhood of returning fire)
For the security guards I would use smoke bombs and lady-finger firecrackers to sow confusion. If they are trigger happy, they may end up killing more students in smokey hallways than the actually perpetrators. Tactical combat says to turn a negative into a positive, use the guards to your advantage.
As for all the other fire-code mandated exits that are possibly locked to prevent entrance, you now have multiple blind alleys to herd individuals into.
Now that I'm done scaring myself let me say my opinion is that metal detectors are bad. They harass good students by making it a wrong to bring metal to school. And as for the future shootists, they will boil until they find a way around the problem. Whereas without metal detectors good students aren't harassed. Bad students will come to school with knives and crowbars, but then you can identify them before they move up to hand guns and pipe bombs.
As for security guards it is much the same, good students WILL be harassed, there is nothing you can do to elimante that. And bad students will avoid them or use them to harass the good students. (Sneak a pound of Mary Jane into school and stuff it into lockers, bags, etc.)
Pretty much all parents and adminstration is saying is we can't solve the problem, so we will "Duck and Cover". Tommy the Turtle says. "Duck, and cover."
I read a book around age thirteen on the effects of radiation. Such as how many rads a scorpion could take before dying, the dosage that would cause human sterility, etc. You get the idea. It was mostly composed from documents from the military about nuclear testing. In one chapter it talked about some of the extranious info that they compiled. One was a document from a general or admiral, a higher up, that green plastic trash bags offer protection against radiation. Not black, or white, or beige, or brown, but only GREEN platic trash bags. This nugget of information has been the seed for all my skepticism about Reputable People Making Irreputable Decessions. FYI & most definitely off topic.
I may be wrong, but, when starting a body from rest, like on a launch pad, don't you need a significant amount of energy just to start out? And even if this is not so, I've watched how long a rocket spends not moving after its engines have started, just building up the Newtons to push to rocket up. This wasted energy/ rocket fuel/weight can just be removed.
In my day we didn't have these fancy-shmancy keyboards. We entered everything with punch cards. And we got paper cuts and we liked it. Yah, it may have taken 138 hours to enter a program, if it had no miss punches, but we liked it. Liked it just FINE. You new kids and your punk keyboards. "Oh look at me, I can enter 110 characters per minute. I can code so fast. Laudy-Daudy Dah-dah-dah." Horse whoey! And these CRT thingies. We had to use a meter to measure the ones and zeroes of our registers cuse we were real men. All real men, except for Mike Glick who turned out to be a hoover. And we liked it just FINE. Well, all except for those dresses he wore, he was an uuuuugly women. Now Francene, there was a tall drink of water, a real fine women. Worked in the steno-pool. And we liked her just FINE. Where was I? Oh yah. You punks and your broad-band net access. Well we had nets first. Optic nets that worked just dandy, hook them up to signal lights and you can transmit a good mile on a clear night. Want fiber? We just flashed the light down a fat cast iron pipe. Fat-pipe! Get it? Get it? Blah, yah stupid kids. Now yah want computers that sit on your tables and don't gash you open when you replace a vac tube or mem stick or whatever you call those doohickies now. Real men bleed for thier systems. Now old George was 23 years my senior and he died in the mainframe. Well, we guess he did cause when those tubes het up you just hope to suffocate before you crisp. Not our fault, no siree. We new the life of a vac changer was short, we liked it just FINE. Stupid kids and their gizmos, always running without checking thier code, no respect, no respect at all, stupid memory protection makes them all soft, one memory space, real men, FINE, poor George, owed him a saw from the poker, damn mice chewing wires, where's my pills....................
I'm really annoyed that you would stereo-type the scientific community like that. But what can I expect from a person who has no girlfriend, a room full of computer parts that maybe partial work, 4 gigs of porn, and a bootleg copy of The Matrix.
I like how I worked the "you must be male" stereo-type in there. Well, speaking for me and nearly all of the Ames lab people who work in Ames, not the damn one out in the desert, we read all the fiction you alude to and more. Where the hell do you think we get new ideas for research? We read some SF and then say, "Hey Mike, you think this could really be done." Then 3 grants and 4 years latter we have quasi-crystal coated cook pans selling on informercials. Reasearchers know what can go wrong and sometimes it scares them shitless. But to be a scientist you have to be an optomist. You have to hope that by the time your Science turns into Technology that the human race is mature enough for it. Which it never is, and that is life.
And one good sneeze could take out your connection.
I can see a rise in lung related illnesses from too much time in front of the internet cloud (swarm?) Or how about, "Sorry teacher, I ate my homework. It settled on my cornflakes and I thought it was sugar."
Thanks to the beauty of the PBS Bass'O'Matic you too can produce a three part series that hypes your own book and ego. You don't believe us? Well let us prove it with this side-by-side challenge:
The car on the right is fueled by galvaston XT267-23 (after 5pm DT283-73 ext.164) and the car on the left is powered by Cringely's ego. And...there off. Galvaston XT267-23 (after 5pm DT283-73 ext.164) begins to pull ahead, it looks like and early lead for galvaston XT267-23 (after 5pm DT283-73 ext.164). Wait, Cringely's ego is building up RPMs, yes, Cringely's ego is taking the lead. And at the finish is...a big hole. Cringely's ego falls into the hole and is never seen again. This is why we must all be on constant guard against the Red Menance.
Yes, the Red Menance, working title for The Phantom Menance, a rather silly story about a boy and his dog, his dog being a robot, a robot he built himself from scraps of other dogs, those dogs also being robots that were scrapped. The boy falls down a well, that well being a wormhole through which he travels to other planets, other planets that all look like parts of the english countryside. There he meets a mad hatter and march hare, played by Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor. They enjoy a nice spot of tea and exchange names, signs, and blaster fire with a few of the queen's (played by a man I know was in "Brazil") guards, played by some ones and zereos organized in video buffers......"NO NO NO, now stop this! This is much to silly. Return to disparaging Cringley or I'll have to stop this for good."
Cringely can bite my caunnish. canaush? tomAto? tOmato?
We must leverage our core apps to bend linux to its knees...Muhahahahahahahahaha...
...or something to that effect was said at some M$ meeting, I'm sure.
Once again, you can make a kick as cheap beowolf cluster once linux is ported. Maybe a renderfarm instead...hmmm
Time to make a kick ass FF 8 playing beowolf cluster. Someone has to say it
This is one of the funniest things I've seen in awhile.
Thanks for reproving that dis-information travels at the speed of light+1. Also know as Douglas Adam's theory of Gossip.
I hope you don't get in trouble for using Apple's name.
"Mmmmmm Mmphhh Mphhmm Mpphh" - Kenny
"Cheese" - Stan, Kyle, Cartman
*BOOM*
"Oh my God! Kodak killed Kenny!" - Stan
"You Bastards!" - Kyle
"Ah gross you bastards, Kennys all over my cheesy poofs" - Cartman
I always say, "fight fire with the flame's smoke."
"M$, you go to hell! You go to hell and you die!"
As to the orignal thread of this discussion, I believe this is a good example of what Mac/NextStep/Be can add to a UI movement. That being you can smack someone down infront of a Win32 style GUI, look at what works. Change the GUI to a Mac style, take some more notes. And so forth to find out what really works. No bitching about processors or sub-systems or OS services since they are the same.
As a side note, and I know this is completely out of order and slightly ethically wrong but:
Is it not ironic that your present project is working on www.douglasadams.com , when Douglas Adams has been a long time advocate for the Macintosh platform and written several pieces berating the Win32. I'll assume you have and therefore there's the irony.
The real crux of the matter is: Will a large influx of Win32 programmers direct the future of Linux/OSS or will Linux/OSS put these programmers to good use? We're making the tools (social/code) right now that will decide.
As I see it, when you pay the $1 per port, you are paying for the R&D that goes into Firewire. That it will:
a) Work with everyone elses
b) Know of any pitfalls/shortcomings
c) Not cause a splinter in the marketplace (ISDN Anyone?)
d) Allow you to ride others success (There are at least 2 companies trying to be the Dolby of Firewire)
Right now everyone is in the same boat. If Pete's Hardware and Dave's Hardware both make firewire speakers, they will both be charged/ing $1 per port and thier respective razor thin profits will be the same. The only people getting a break are the really big guys that always get the breaks or do the R&D.
Of course you can just create a firewire compatible system for $$$$ R&D. Also, of course, all the companies that do this will charge others to use thier firewire clone. Say for $0.50 a little over a year from now.
Or you can wait for 2-3 years for a completely defined standard that costs little to nothing. Of course by this time firewire will be strong enough not to be splintered by crappy rip-offs claiming to be improvements. (the previous posts about beta vs. VHS)
In the end, you will end up paying for R&D somewhere, TANSTAAFL. Just like Technocolor, Dolby AC3, OmniMax, PCI, Pentium, or RCA's original TV system, etc.
Vote with your wallets. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Dum Da-da Da Dumm!
Who would go on this mission?
a) Why convicts, of course. They have no choice, and we outfit each with an exploding collar from "The Running Man."
b) People that hate Sol system politics/society/yellow suns/bread from earth grains/mayonaise/luffa sponges/etc.
c) Scientologists
d) Dumb people we can trick onto it with a trail of Recee's Pieces.
e) Microsoft Tech Help, all six of them.
Well, maybe not all six of the Microsoft tech help. We need to save 2 as breeding pairs.
As for a y2k society (1) you would look to SF for the answers. Presently unable to remember the title or author. The plot is: Aztec society on inside of cylinder believes that gods are angry over past indescretion and sealed people into valley, will release when they are no longer angry. Also, gods decree that you will only marry people from your side of the river. Christian Flaguelent (sp?) group lives inside hull and is in charge of wathcing over Aztec to keep population within correct bounds, keep them from becoming to curious, and keep the 2 sides of the river from interbreeding. Thus we have to societies traveling to some habital planet over very long time. When they get there, supposedly intermarriage between the Aztec from different sides of the river will release the recessive SuperGenius contained within. Thus, hunky-dory, they will arrive at planet without wiping out eachother and by starting in savagery, end in wisdom...blah,blah,blah... anyone know the name of this???
And what ever happened to smaller, faster, cheaper??? It would be much more intelligent to send out 1,000 ships of 1,000 people at 1/50th the speed of light. Smaller. Faster. Cheaper. And why the hell does he not use a ion drive. We're talkin some huge distances which are perfect for this technology.
PK-Cola, obey my greed, buy my poduct.
(1) (hey, wouldn't it be a funny think if all of them died due to a bug with y2k,y3k,or y4k; just within the new solar system)
I think your idea is great! Wonderful! Uber-cool! Lets extend it into the realm of humor. In order to USE humor, you must pass a few tests such as:
a) showing you have timing and delivery ability.
b) delivering 50 jokes to a set "focus group", scoring at least above 70% laughs.
c) essay test where you must create 3 jokes on-the-fly containing subject matter given.
d) ability to take beating from a bad crowd. Say, 10 minutes stading infront of a brick wall w/ mic. while crowd laughs at wrong spots for first 5 minutes, and then BOOs for last 5.
e) balancing ability - Must provide entertainment for group for 25 minutes using only material that is insulting. Andrew Dice Clay imitation not allowed.
All these test can be waived by appearing at least 3 times on "Who's Line Is It Anyway" or a similiar certified venue.
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Well, you see, his point is that there are 3 ways for analysts to extrapolate the growth curve, and 1 way for math to do it. The point being analysts go with what they believe, and then cloak it in facts, while math tends to be way more objective. I don't know if I agree with his conclusions about linux growth, but then again, I haven't seen a sampling that can be used for a good model.
A few important points he has forgotten to mention / overlooked.
a) Just as there were waves of propriatary that flowed into open standards, the wave does flow back and forth. Look at the propriatary *nix around (Sun, Digital, SGI).
b) Just as "in the begining there was one" AT&T Unix was cast out from the Tower of Babel and made to speak many languages unknown to eachother. (If he can do Dinosuars, I can do Old Testament.) When will the great fork occur in Linux? It will come one day, it's just a when.
c) And by his logic Linux will one day be surplanted by something else, *shrug*, but that's no big thing. (And will take at least 15 years by his numbers)
d) A big question is: Does Linux want to be the biggest? I know most reactions will be "hell yah!", but that leads to the question why?
e) And here's the scariest extrapolation from his logic. Just as the dinosaurs died out and mammals eventually took over, now it is assumed that the dinosuars actually became today's birds. Will windows make a similiar sideways leap in evolution, giving up size for flight? (I hope it doesn't peck out my eyes)
Any and all views voiced here are mine right now, they might be different tomorrow, but I don't think so.
Now, what if Uhg showed all his friends fire. And they all take fire and ignore Uhg. Now Uhg is a pretty poor hunter but he is a good thinker (having 12 more neurons than any other Ooks in Crog valley). Well eventually Uhg dies hungry, ironically after trying to improve fire with black goo called Rhelm big woolies get cuaght in. You see, just as the greatest thing a person can do is allow free use of an invention, a being should be given by the world as much as he gives out. Otherwise why would he share anything if he gets nothing in return? This is real world, greed IS a factor, or your dead. I'm not saying you shouldn't allow everyone to use it, since you should. But also you should get compensated for what you created.
On a side note, I've read that the inventor of the guillotine lost his head at his own device, hows that for irony.