Sure it does. gthumb does the thumbnail thing, Gimp does the editing. gthumb will open the photo using the Gimp, so you don't have to go running around in your file browser for it to work, either. It doesn't do the calendar search thing, though.
There definitely isn't a set of applications for Linux to match iLife/iWork.
Cinelerra will do what iMovie does.
DVD burning, menu creation, and other iDVD stuff is supported by a couple programs. DVDauthor works, but there's GUI tools avaliable too.
Dunno about GarageBand. Never used it, never tried to do anything it does.
iTunes, of course, is missing. But you have to pay money to actually get songs from that anyway.
Granted, these aren't integrated together or anything. You certianly aren't going to be dragging stuff between them. But they do work, and work well.
Regarding Linux file systems...most users need not concern themselves with them./home is where stuff goes, and the rest can take care of itself except for removable media, and unless the Linspire people forgot automount daemons exist, that should just appear on the desktop. Digital cameras generally support the USB mass storage interface, so those will just appear the same way. We're not talking about putting normal users on Gentoo here!
Regarding Photoshop Elements vs. Gimp, yes, there's more software avaliable for Mac. There's even more avaliable for Windows. For the most part, none of it is needed (aside from special cases, like people who actually need Photoshop, or MS Office). A lot of users have picked up some favorite Windows program or other, but they're not going to be able to run it on Mac anyway. At least with Linux they have a change of making it work under Wine.
Really, the main reason to use OSX over Linspire is the integration between programs on OSX, and the consistant interface between programs on OSX. For a some people, having a nicely integrated and consistant system is worth an extra few hundred $$. But, aside from iTunes, there really isn't much you can do on a Mac Mini that the Linspire machine couldn't do.
Note that if I was buying one, I'd probably go for the Mac. But, I'd rather keep my Gentoo box than have either of them.
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Show us this marvelous machine that costs $450 and includes a complete operating system and equivalent software to match iLife and AppleWorks (or iWork for another $80), and an LCD monitor that won't make your eyes bleed, and 512MB of RAM that's worth having. Seriously, show us this machine.
Computer: $280
RAM: $35
Monitor: $176
Total: $491 (So maybe the guy quoting $450 was pushing it a little, but not much)
Comes with Linspire, OpenOffice, Gimp, etc. For the sort of person who'd be buying this, it's a LOT better software package than Windows XP (good ease of use, virus / spyware immunity, already has an office suite, etc).
I've seen this very computer in the Sunday ads for $180, which with the RAM and Monitor would come out at $391.
But...the Mac mini looks cooler, you can install Linux on it like a PC if you want to, fits in smaller spaces, can run OSX (probably it's biggest attraction), and mac people won't look down on you if you have it.
Was it just me, or did the ban-all-games guy end up sounding like a total fanatic, while Tim sounded quite level headed? Maybe my existing opinions on the subject are altering my perception of each of them or something.
If video gamers are crazy, shouldn't they write more crazily than lawyers?
There's been a lot of people saying how motors larger then 62.5 grams are huge, used to launch 30 foot high rockets, unneeded, etc. This isn't the case.
For example, I have a rocket which carries a radio controlled digital camera. Here's what it needs to get to various altitudes:
To get off the launch pad and slowly lumber up 400 feet: G64 reload (62.4 grams propellant)
To leave the launch pad at a safe speed and obtain a resonable altitude(1000 feet): H128 reload (95 grams)
To get somewhere that would yield really cool pictures (3000 feet): I211 reload (251 grams)
Note the much higher altitude from the H128 verses the G64. The rocket is so underpowered with the G64 that most of the fuel is spent just keeping the rocket from falling back down. The H128 gets it moving at a much more efficiant speed. Thus the huge altitude difference with a motor only 50% larger. (I've used both motors, with an altimeter in the rocket to verify altitude and deploy the parachutes).
Most of the really neat payloads need a bunch of power. Such as a tiny computer, wireless lan card, and batteries. Or a video camera.
It used to be legal to purchase and fly any of these motors without a low explosive user permit (LEUP). The largest motor you used to be able to get sans LEUP was the AeroTech J570, which would have put my camera rocket up around 6000 feet. Now, the most powerful easily avaliable motor will be the AT G125, which puts my camera rocket up around 450 feet, although it does leave the launch pad at a safe speed.
The guys launching 30 foot rockets are using motors like the AeroTech N2000, which has 7,770 grams of propellent. These have always required a LEUP.
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Here is the actual assignment. Looks like he carefully told students not to hack into anything.
http://niksbox.net/Assignment3.pdf
IPhoto alone has no match on Linux.
/home is where stuff goes, and the rest can take care of itself except for removable media, and unless the Linspire people forgot automount daemons exist, that should just appear on the desktop. Digital cameras generally support the USB mass storage interface, so those will just appear the same way. We're not talking about putting normal users on Gentoo here!
Sure it does. gthumb does the thumbnail thing, Gimp does the editing. gthumb will open the photo using the Gimp, so you don't have to go running around in your file browser for it to work, either. It doesn't do the calendar search thing, though.
There definitely isn't a set of applications for Linux to match iLife/iWork.
Cinelerra will do what iMovie does.
DVD burning, menu creation, and other iDVD stuff is supported by a couple programs. DVDauthor works, but there's GUI tools avaliable too.
Dunno about GarageBand. Never used it, never tried to do anything it does.
iTunes, of course, is missing. But you have to pay money to actually get songs from that anyway.
Granted, these aren't integrated together or anything. You certianly aren't going to be dragging stuff between them. But they do work, and work well.
Regarding Linux file systems...most users need not concern themselves with them.
Regarding Photoshop Elements vs. Gimp, yes, there's more software avaliable for Mac. There's even more avaliable for Windows. For the most part, none of it is needed (aside from special cases, like people who actually need Photoshop, or MS Office). A lot of users have picked up some favorite Windows program or other, but they're not going to be able to run it on Mac anyway. At least with Linux they have a change of making it work under Wine.
Really, the main reason to use OSX over Linspire is the integration between programs on OSX, and the consistant interface between programs on OSX. For a some people, having a nicely integrated and consistant system is worth an extra few hundred $$. But, aside from iTunes, there really isn't much you can do on a Mac Mini that the Linspire machine couldn't do.
Note that if I was buying one, I'd probably go for the Mac. But, I'd rather keep my Gentoo box than have either of them.
Show us this marvelous machine that costs $450 and includes a complete operating system and equivalent software to match iLife and AppleWorks (or iWork for another $80), and an LCD monitor that won't make your eyes bleed, and 512MB of RAM that's worth having. Seriously, show us this machine.
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And this:
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Computer: $280
RAM: $35
Monitor: $176
Total: $491 (So maybe the guy quoting $450 was pushing it a little, but not much)
Comes with Linspire, OpenOffice, Gimp, etc. For the sort of person who'd be buying this, it's a LOT better software package than Windows XP (good ease of use, virus / spyware immunity, already has an office suite, etc).
I've seen this very computer in the Sunday ads for $180, which with the RAM and Monitor would come out at $391.
But...the Mac mini looks cooler, you can install Linux on it like a PC if you want to, fits in smaller spaces, can run OSX (probably it's biggest attraction), and mac people won't look down on you if you have it.
Was it just me, or did the ban-all-games guy end up sounding like a total fanatic, while Tim sounded quite level headed? Maybe my existing opinions on the subject are altering my perception of each of them or something. If video gamers are crazy, shouldn't they write more crazily than lawyers?
There's been a lot of people saying how motors larger then 62.5 grams are huge, used to launch 30 foot high rockets, unneeded, etc. This isn't the case.
For example, I have a rocket which carries a radio controlled digital camera. Here's what it needs to get to various altitudes:
To get off the launch pad and slowly lumber up 400 feet: G64 reload (62.4 grams propellant)
To leave the launch pad at a safe speed and obtain a resonable altitude(1000 feet): H128 reload (95 grams)
To get somewhere that would yield really cool pictures (3000 feet): I211 reload (251 grams)
Note the much higher altitude from the H128 verses the G64. The rocket is so underpowered with the G64 that most of the fuel is spent just keeping the rocket from falling back down. The H128 gets it moving at a much more efficiant speed. Thus the huge altitude difference with a motor only 50% larger. (I've used both motors, with an altimeter in the rocket to verify altitude and deploy the parachutes).
Most of the really neat payloads need a bunch of power. Such as a tiny computer, wireless lan card, and batteries. Or a video camera.
It used to be legal to purchase and fly any of these motors without a low explosive user permit (LEUP). The largest motor you used to be able to get sans LEUP was the AeroTech J570, which would have put my camera rocket up around 6000 feet. Now, the most powerful easily avaliable motor will be the AT G125, which puts my camera rocket up around 450 feet, although it does leave the launch pad at a safe speed.
The guys launching 30 foot rockets are using motors like the AeroTech N2000, which has 7,770 grams of propellent. These have always required a LEUP.
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