Most people will want to install a desktop system such as Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Xubuntu. A desktop system is typically used for personal computing tasks and has a graphical user interface.
Bare Minimum requirements
It should be possible to get Ubuntu running on a system with the following minimum hardware specification, although it is unlikely that the system would run well. You should use the Alternate install CD to attempt such an installation.
* 300 MHz x86 processor
* 64 MB of system memory (RAM)
* At least 4 GB of disk space (for full installation and swap space)
* VGA graphics card capable of 640x480 resolution
* CD-ROM drive or network card
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What's listed? 64MB for bare minimum.
Try reading again. They suggest 384 for normal use, and I absolutely that's accurate. 256MB is probably not that much more usable than 384MB, but that wasn't what I said at all in my original statement
My original:
You're trying to imply every os has continual bloat, but all versions of vista, including windows 7, will never be usable on 256MB. You'll be lucky if you can get it run a single application. Ubuntu is and always has been usable with 256MB of ram. OSX is not currently usable with 256MB of ram.
I knew I'd have to be this granular when I made that post. I said
windows 7, will never be usable on 256MB. You'll be lucky if you can get it run a single application
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128MB of ram is not exactly "plenty" when it comes to running apps on windows 7. Notice how most of those videos don't run many apps at all.
I never said it won't able to run at all, I said it won't be usable. Go try to use a machine with 128MB of ram set aside for windows and watch it run out of ram faster than you can load applications.
hmm. I don't know if that is considered OSX in the same way as osx itself or not. I would assume that it's not an apples to apples comparison, though.
my thought process for my previous post was that it was based on a stock install.
I'm sure you can get windows relatively feasible with optimizations or ubuntu or OSX, but I was just figuring the average ISO or other installer a customer might download/purchase. Although I'd consider even windows a step up from OSX since you can actually load new versions of windows on old hardware, which OSX explicitly doesn't support.
I fail to see how your argument is any less nebulous.
Driver stability and hardware support have, oh, absolutely nothing to do with DirectX support. Those are entirely separate issues. If you look at this and think it's directX only, then you fail to understand that all the vendors have support and stability for other operating systems, such as, oh, OSX, Linux, BSD, etc?
you fail entirely.
Installed base again, has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion. That's like asking how many people running windows are also running a version of the windows OS. Well, gee, nice statistic there.
your post seems disgenuous. You're trying to imply every os has continual bloat, but all versions of vista, including windows 7, will never be usable on 256MB. You'll be lucky if you can get it run a single application. Ubuntu is and always has been usable with 256MB of ram. OSX is not currently usable with 256MB of ram.
well that's a lot of interpretation off of a phrase that I never said.
Hardware acceleration is also not new to browsers at all. I welcome competition, but changing things from cpu reliance on acceleration to graphics card is really just trying to make things sound interesting, and it's barely even a niche.
a: it only works in windows, due to the proprietary nature. b: it only works on computers with actual graphics cards and not embedded hardware. c: it only works in IE9, and specifically with SVG, if I recall correctly.
Combine all that and you have a small amount of even the windows market that would take advantage of this. Make this real world scenarios and you have another even smaller amount of people who would ever see a use.
Meanwhile, how is this significantly different than any of IE's competition in the browser market? I fail to see how you think this equates to actual performance changes or anything. Methinks if you read the article carefully you'll see how there actually isn't a performance increase resultant from what they're doing.
All they did is said "firefox gets 64FPS, and we get 60, but you have to divide their scores by 4". So they claim firefox gets 16.4 FPS, while stating that IE gets 60FPS. Nice spin, isn't it.
PS: Sorry, I went ad hominem there. apologies. I still disagree on some kind of requirement to provide logic for explaining why a proprietary product by MS is bad. This is slashdot, after all.
you must be crazy or something. You really think people need to be re-explained why relying on proprietary software is bad, especially when it comes to DirectX? I thought it was a given that people were smart enough to understand that proprietary = bad.
Why don't you take a look at how many other platforms support DirectX?
See, now I have to provide reasoning for things that are blatantly obvious, just because of your asinine comment.
Well, you purchase the license to use the games. You do own the physical console and they legally cannot rescind your use of the console itself. They can try to restrict what you can do with it, but not your access to the device. That doesn't even mean you own them. People don't really pay attention to this distinction and how it erodes the right of first sale among other things.
This is why steam is still evil. You're "buying" a longterm rental. You're really not buying to own.
not multiple personalities, different departments.
PR and the legal department are always in contradiction. Upper Management is usually states agreement with PR but other management just follows the legal requirements only. Guess which one speaks out usually?
that's a pretty dead on first post. He absolutely has a case though, in fact it's quite solid. It's public information. If it was private would be another story. I do agree he probably doesn't have the money but the gamble is the fact that if it's solid enough the judge might prevent facebook's lawyers from going after him - aka ANTI-SLAPP or equivalent.
I have no idea if that would happen or not, but it's certainly possible. Depends on how clued in the judge is to the interwebs.
this is deliberate. Publishers don't want the PC games to be successful, so that they can make statements exactly like they did in this post. "oh, piracy is rampant, pc games aren't profitable", even though both the pc hardware and gaming markets are obviously quite successful. I mean look at the players! They're billion dollar industries. Nvidia, Intel, AMD, foxconn, asus, blizzard, bungie, microsoft, the names go on and on for hardware and gaming.
It's not just the corruption, that's a given, but the lack of accountability. when people write unconstitutional laws or take away constitutional rights, who do we hold accountable?
voting those people out doesn't fix the mess they put us in, and clearly elected officials don't listen to public opinion (as a ton of public opinion is equally flat out retarded and/or crazy), so why is this bandwagon?
Unedited video isn't one side of the story. It's the whole story.
your 1% idea is off a little. Maybe what you don't get is that 95% of the population is attracted to individuals of their sexual preference who are younger than them.
attracted to children specifically is different only in the level of younger, but you're over-generalizing here.
There's well known biological proof and studies in many forms that show an older individual will seek a younger companion of the sex that they prefer.
Meanwhile, someone who is 19 who consensually has sex with a 16 year old is currently categorized as a pedophile.
So being attracted to children, really isn't as biologically off as it is socially unacceptable. In times prior to the 20th century being attracted to children wasn't considered at all unusual. This has no direct link with rape or abuse. So you might want to research how things were in say, ancient greece or europe prior to the US being formed.
I don't get it, do you think that injustices or mistrials, or that people don't simply get found guilty for things they didn't commit?
5th amendment is this exclusively. If you talk to a cop, they can now find you guilty of things you didn't commit.
anyway, as people have said, there are things that can be repaid in some forms/to some extent, and there are other things that are quite clearly permanent. While 30 years can never be recovered, at least you can live out the rest.
I don't remember it ever needing saving. I mean look at MS products, or apple products. They're not labeled beta, they're labeled complete or release candidate and there are still plenty of problems or incomplete features, etc.
The same can be applied to just about every software company in existence.
that is not the point. They're not exclusively video sites. The HTML5 can be done on anything that supports it, thus it's also not exclusive to the ipad.
Slashdot Mirror
Basically. That and yahoo's search quality/layout used to be crap. I don't know if it is anymore because I don't even use it.
Your wording is incorrect.
From ubuntu's website:
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What's listed? 64MB for bare minimum.
Try reading again. They suggest 384 for normal use, and I absolutely that's accurate. 256MB is probably not that much more usable than 384MB, but that wasn't what I said at all in my original statement
My original:
Your post = 100% misleading.
I knew I'd have to be this granular when I made that post. I said
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128MB of ram is not exactly "plenty" when it comes to running apps on windows 7. Notice how most of those videos don't run many apps at all.
I never said it won't able to run at all, I said it won't be usable. Go try to use a machine with 128MB of ram set aside for windows and watch it run out of ram faster than you can load applications.
hmm. I don't know if that is considered OSX in the same way as osx itself or not. I would assume that it's not an apples to apples comparison, though.
my thought process for my previous post was that it was based on a stock install.
I'm sure you can get windows relatively feasible with optimizations or ubuntu or OSX, but I was just figuring the average ISO or other installer a customer might download/purchase. Although I'd consider even windows a step up from OSX since you can actually load new versions of windows on old hardware, which OSX explicitly doesn't support.
I fail to see how your argument is any less nebulous.
Driver stability and hardware support have, oh, absolutely nothing to do with DirectX support. Those are entirely separate issues. If you look at this and think it's directX only, then you fail to understand that all the vendors have support and stability for other operating systems, such as, oh, OSX, Linux, BSD, etc?
you fail entirely.
Installed base again, has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion. That's like asking how many people running windows are also running a version of the windows OS. Well, gee, nice statistic there.
your post seems disgenuous. You're trying to imply every os has continual bloat, but all versions of vista, including windows 7, will never be usable on 256MB. You'll be lucky if you can get it run a single application. Ubuntu is and always has been usable with 256MB of ram. OSX is not currently usable with 256MB of ram.
point: you're fibbing your numbers here.
well that's a lot of interpretation off of a phrase that I never said.
Hardware acceleration is also not new to browsers at all. I welcome competition, but changing things from cpu reliance on acceleration to graphics card is really just trying to make things sound interesting, and it's barely even a niche.
a: it only works in windows, due to the proprietary nature.
b: it only works on computers with actual graphics cards and not embedded hardware.
c: it only works in IE9, and specifically with SVG, if I recall correctly.
Combine all that and you have a small amount of even the windows market that would take advantage of this. Make this real world scenarios and you have another even smaller amount of people who would ever see a use.
Meanwhile, how is this significantly different than any of IE's competition in the browser market? I fail to see how you think this equates to actual performance changes or anything. Methinks if you read the article carefully you'll see how there actually isn't a performance increase resultant from what they're doing.
All they did is said "firefox gets 64FPS, and we get 60, but you have to divide their scores by 4". So they claim firefox gets 16.4 FPS, while stating that IE gets 60FPS. Nice spin, isn't it.
PS: Sorry, I went ad hominem there. apologies. I still disagree on some kind of requirement to provide logic for explaining why a proprietary product by MS is bad. This is slashdot, after all.
you must be crazy or something. You really think people need to be re-explained why relying on proprietary software is bad, especially when it comes to DirectX? I thought it was a given that people were smart enough to understand that proprietary = bad.
Why don't you take a look at how many other platforms support DirectX?
See, now I have to provide reasoning for things that are blatantly obvious, just because of your asinine comment.
not only that, but it's also proprietary, aka directX. So they're paving the way for, well, nothing.
You know, you may be quite arrogant, but there are democrats that support gun law.
Well, you purchase the license to use the games. You do own the physical console and they legally cannot rescind your use of the console itself. They can try to restrict what you can do with it, but not your access to the device. That doesn't even mean you own them. People don't really pay attention to this distinction and how it erodes the right of first sale among other things.
This is why steam is still evil. You're "buying" a longterm rental. You're really not buying to own.
Yeah, it's called a PC. You buy the games that don't have DRM. They are few and far between, and publishers wish they didn't exist.
not multiple personalities, different departments.
PR and the legal department are always in contradiction. Upper Management is usually states agreement with PR but other management just follows the legal requirements only. Guess which one speaks out usually?
that's a pretty dead on first post. He absolutely has a case though, in fact it's quite solid. It's public information. If it was private would be another story. I do agree he probably doesn't have the money but the gamble is the fact that if it's solid enough the judge might prevent facebook's lawyers from going after him - aka ANTI-SLAPP or equivalent.
I have no idea if that would happen or not, but it's certainly possible. Depends on how clued in the judge is to the interwebs.
this is deliberate. Publishers don't want the PC games to be successful, so that they can make statements exactly like they did in this post. "oh, piracy is rampant, pc games aren't profitable", even though both the pc hardware and gaming markets are obviously quite successful. I mean look at the players! They're billion dollar industries. Nvidia, Intel, AMD, foxconn, asus, blizzard, bungie, microsoft, the names go on and on for hardware and gaming.
bingo. this video is quite telling by itself.
Maybe you should think about what you're saying.
It's not just the corruption, that's a given, but the lack of accountability. when people write unconstitutional laws or take away constitutional rights, who do we hold accountable?
voting those people out doesn't fix the mess they put us in, and clearly elected officials don't listen to public opinion (as a ton of public opinion is equally flat out retarded and/or crazy), so why is this bandwagon?
Unedited video isn't one side of the story. It's the whole story.
that's not going to do anything to help those who are killed by said drones.
Meanwhile, war is a horrible economic choice for us to continue to push. What's the tax losses of 60-80 years of a soldier's life?
Sure, it's great in the short term (military business), but long term?
I agree 100%. I'm just saying that people such as whom I replied to, are associating together age preference with pedophilia. They are different.
your 1% idea is off a little. Maybe what you don't get is that 95% of the population is attracted to individuals of their sexual preference who are younger than them.
attracted to children specifically is different only in the level of younger, but you're over-generalizing here.
There's well known biological proof and studies in many forms that show an older individual will seek a younger companion of the sex that they prefer.
Meanwhile, someone who is 19 who consensually has sex with a 16 year old is currently categorized as a pedophile.
So being attracted to children, really isn't as biologically off as it is socially unacceptable. In times prior to the 20th century being attracted to children wasn't considered at all unusual. This has no direct link with rape or abuse. So you might want to research how things were in say, ancient greece or europe prior to the US being formed.
Death isn't a cure for pedophilia. That's like saying that shotguns are a cure for aids.
I don't get it, do you think that injustices or mistrials, or that people don't simply get found guilty for things they didn't commit?
5th amendment is this exclusively. If you talk to a cop, they can now find you guilty of things you didn't commit.
anyway, as people have said, there are things that can be repaid in some forms/to some extent, and there are other things that are quite clearly permanent. While 30 years can never be recovered, at least you can live out the rest.
I don't remember it ever needing saving. I mean look at MS products, or apple products. They're not labeled beta, they're labeled complete or release candidate and there are still plenty of problems or incomplete features, etc.
The same can be applied to just about every software company in existence.
that is not the point. They're not exclusively video sites. The HTML5 can be done on anything that supports it, thus it's also not exclusive to the ipad.