My question is simple. Has IBM's involvement with Linux been profitable? And, do you see Linux as something that will (be/continue to be) profitable in the future?
"'KDE is plain and simple, the most disgusting user interface experience one could ever have'"
That is out of context. Shortly after that I said that that was simply *MY* opinion and that I was glad there are CHOICES and that I didn't mean to offend anyone.
I gave my reasons for disliking it, but nowhere did I say that everyone should agree with me, I said I was glad to have a choice.
Please, get offended when someone tells you to stop doing work that you love and enjoy, but don't take offense to other peoples' opinions, especially when they say they don't mean to insult you.
Holy fucking shit, how fucking dumb can you fuckers get?
This was not a fucking troll, it was my goddam fucking opinion, since when are people supposed to be moderated down for their opinion. All I said was that *____I____* hated KDE and that that was just MY FUCKING ____OPINION____.
I wasn't BAITING anyone, I wasn't INSULTING anyone, I was just STATING the fact that *I* am glad to have a CHOICE in desktop enviornments.
Goddam stupid mother fuckers.
___THIS___ is a fucking troll you fucking dumbass shit for fucking brains cock sucking morons.
I was responding to a Troll who was saying that the Gnome guys should throw in the towel, and I was saying that I don't like KDE so I'd prefer to continue having a choice. That's all. I even said that my opinions about KDE were just that, opinions. I wasn't implying that KDE sucked or should be tossed, far from it.
Plus, just because I don't like KDE doesn't mean that I don't like any KDE apps. Of course I'd prefer that they were Gnome apps, but again, just IMO ; )
Seriously, what I would love to see is better integration of Gnome / KDE menus. I'd really like KDE apps that I install to install a launcher in my Gnome menus and vice versa. Loki is doing this with all their games now. The only apps that'd I'd like kept separate as far as menus go are the default utilities and such that come with each desktop.
Also, just look how the competition between KDE and Gnome is driving them to work harder, I think it's great.
That's not what I said. My point was that one was a copy, and one was an original design.
I suppose all the Gnome developers, and all the Gnome users are all just silly people then? They made a GRAPHICAL USER INTERFACE look nicer than the competition's, how silly of them.
You didn't read my whole post, I talked about the theming support in KDE. I think it's a pretty lame attempt at theming, GTK does a hell of a much better job.
But, just IMO. To each his own. I like having choices, choices are good.
KDE is plain and simple, the most disgusting user interface experience one could ever have. It is a direct copy of the win9x interface, except it falls way short. The look feel is modeled exactly after win9x, which in itself leaves much to be desired, but QT/KDE just don't get it right. Everything is just slightly off, which is incredibly irritating. The theming support QT is awful.Just compare all the GTK/GNOME themes to KDE themes, there is not comparison at all. GTK/GNOME just kills KDE when it comes to visual appeal.
GTK is the most beautiful widget set I have ever seen. It has it's own unique look and feel. The default theme looks similar to Motif, but it has a much cleaner, fresher look, and it has a feel all of it's own.
As for GNOME itself, I like it. I like the menu panels, and the very configurable edge/corner panels. The icon sets that come with GNOME are 10x better than the ugly cruft KDE comes with.
This is all IMO, and I don't mean to offend any rabid KDE users. KDE is great, I just personally hate it.
As for your opinion that Gnome should close up shop, you can cram it. Who are you to tell them what they should/shouldn't do, it's their project and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
I'll stick with having choices thank you very much, I much prefer Gnome over KDE.
Oh my, I can't believe they are making such blatantly false statements.
First off, you _CAN_ use GPLed code in proprietary commercial software. All you have to do is license it from the author of the GPLed software you want to use, that is all.
What GPLed software ALLOWS you to do that commercial software doesnt', is it allows you to use GPLed code without the author's permission at all, but if you do you have to keep your project open.
There are 2 occasions where it would be impossible to use GPLed software in a proprietary commercial product.
1. The author hates you and refuses to license the code to you.
2. The copyright on the GPLed software is held by too many people, so it would be too difficult to get an alternate license for it.
Now as for commercial software, to even look at the code to see if it would be something you might want to use you have to have some serious $$$.
Damn, she hit you at 50mph? Damn, you are extremely lucky that you and your passenger only had minor injuries, could have been a lot worse.
As far as cell phones go, I'm unsure what I think needs to be done. Personally, I feel that it should fall under reckless driving. I'm hesitant about asking for MORE laws, but correctly enforcing the ones we currently have sure would help.
Hmmm... Funny thing, about two months ago, I was riding in someone's car and we were hit, at about 50 mph, by some not-paying-attention-speeding-in-her-big-ass-suv-i n-fucking-lala-land bitch, while at a dead stop waiting to turn left. My friend and I were out getting food at Arby's.
His little corolla was totalled, but we both only sustained minor injuries. What a coincidence that you had such a similar experience around the same time!
That's not the first time I've almost been killed like that though. About 6 months ago I was driving to work, and some jackass on a cell phone, was just staring off into nothing, completely oblivious to his surroundings while going into a turn, crossed the center line, and comes within an inch of hitting me. We were both doing about 50 going oposite directions on a two lane road, he looked up right at the last second and swerved.
Then there's been countless times when people on cell phones swerved into my lane without looking, or just swerved because they didn't even realize they were swerving.
So yeah, people are pretty damn stupid when it comes to driving. WTF is so hard to understand about 2+ tons of metal moving at 60+ MPH being extremely dangerous and requiring ALL of your attention?
Hmmm... I tried this just the other day on my Athlon 900 / Geforce2 / 256MB ram / Kernel 2.4.5 / GCC 2.95.3 / GLibC 2.2.3 / SLD 1.2, and it was extremely slow.
Don't you know anything about Scientology? Scientology doesn't tell people their side of the story, they do everything they can to promote their cult, even when they have to kill people which they have done more than once.
And that doesn't have a fucking thing to do with anything anyway, as my example was showing how M$ smart tags will allow powerful people with money to control the content of people who appose them.
I'm talking about leveling the playing field, not giving myself more control.
Christ, I didn't say that I wanted to put my own smart tags on Scientology sites...
This is wrong, just plain wrong. Not because of copyright, not because of unfair competition, but because it gives someone else control of content I created(but not in a copyright sense).
What I mean is, let's say I make a website dedicated to exposing Scientology for what it really is, a sick twisted cult that extorts money from people.
Now, with Microsoft smart tags, if someone visits my site there will possibly be links to pro-scientology articles. What's really scary is that Microsoft actually does have an affiliation with some Scientology-owned companies.
This is the ultimate example of Microsoft's "Embrace and Extend" strategy, using their web browser monopoly to create a monopoly on, well, the web as we know it.
Maybe it's just late or something, but when I looked at that it made me really disoriented. It must have been something about how I had my browser windows layed out, and I saw the same thing in the screenshot as what was on my screen.
If they are going to lose their account for spamming, then they were in violation of their agreement with their ISP, which is THEIR FUCKING PROBLEM.
Now, if they weren't in violation of their agreement with their ISP, then it's THEIR responsibility to sue their ISP for the damage caused to them.
Just because there are possible cases where the ISP could be at fault for the spammer not having a valid email address, does not free the spammer of the responsibility to have a valid email address.
I wish I had moderation points right now, I'd mod that up.
That seems to be MS' reasoning when they talk about themselves, it's like they're all crazy and delusional. Of course, the truth is that they are just lying out their asses all the time...
Actually, there is a HUGE difference in the two examples you gave.
While bombs can literally kill thousands of people and are a direct threat to the citizens of this country, copyright control circumvention is only an extremely minor threat to a monstrous international corporation, which in the end will probably not even affect it's bottom line in a visible way.
Therefore, the real intent of the DMCA is to allow certain corporations to gain ever increasing control of IP and create a permanent government granted monopoly on all sorts things, from music, movies, to software and anything else that isn't a physical object.
Obviously, the DMCA is a direct result of corporate corruption in our government, to say otherwise is ridiculous.
I just made a donation in the amount of $75.00. I would have donated a whole lot more for this cause, but I've been spending WAY too much lately and money is tight now.
Somehow this makes me feel like my existence is validated when I donate cash that I earned to such a good cause. This isn't like most charity donations where you don't have any clue what is done with your money, such as donating to your local police. Don't we already pay taxes for that? Somehow I feel that they squander all that money.
Please, everyone, if you can afford it(or not), please donate something to the EFF. Remember, they do not run on a high budget, so every bit you donate is a big help, for real. This is a REAL cause and it is worth it.
That's not really good for Mozilla. Mozilla needs a big company to support it in order to get some serious market penetration. I still have hopes that AOL will eventually embed Mozilla directly into AOL.
What else can be done to gain some marketshare? IE ships with almost every computer sold world round, how do you compete with that?
If Mozilla only gains marketshare in *nix, that won't really help us at all. We need some marketshare in Windows for Mozilla to become a viable browser. If we don't get that, the web is doomed to become "Windows Only".
Sure, you may have the docs from MSDN so you really don't need to be able to see how everything works, but if something isn't working quite right, then you are SOL. You won't be able to help yourself because you can't see how it works, and you're not going to get help from MS unless you have billions in the bank.
Come on crackheads, read the damn article, it's not that long. The LUG people were handing out CD at the showroom entrance, no one's "turf".
Of course there were people hanging out greeting people there and all, but Microsoft complained that they were handing out CD, which is just bullshit, every expo I've ever been to people were handing me free shit as I walked in.
This was simply Microsoft not wanting any attention to be distracted away from them, so they open their big mouths and bith and whine and get their way.
Do you think Microsoft doesn't hand out shit at these things? Of course they do, it's just not "free software".
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My question is simple. Has IBM's involvement with Linux been profitable? And, do you see Linux as something that will (be/continue to be) profitable in the future?
"'KDE is plain and simple, the most disgusting user interface experience one could ever have'"
That is out of context. Shortly after that I said that that was simply *MY* opinion and that I was glad there are CHOICES and that I didn't mean to offend anyone.
I gave my reasons for disliking it, but nowhere did I say that everyone should agree with me, I said I was glad to have a choice.
Please, get offended when someone tells you to stop doing work that you love and enjoy, but don't take offense to other peoples' opinions, especially when they say they don't mean to insult you.
You my friend, are a rabid KDE user ; )
Yeah, so, I am a rabid Gnome user ; )
Holy fucking shit, how fucking dumb can you fuckers get?
This was not a fucking troll, it was my goddam fucking opinion, since when are people supposed to be moderated down for their opinion. All I said was that *____I____* hated KDE and that that was just MY FUCKING ____OPINION____.
I wasn't BAITING anyone, I wasn't INSULTING anyone, I was just STATING the fact that *I* am glad to have a CHOICE in desktop enviornments.
Goddam stupid mother fuckers.
___THIS___ is a fucking troll you fucking dumbass shit for fucking brains cock sucking morons.
I was responding to a Troll who was saying that the Gnome guys should throw in the towel, and I was saying that I don't like KDE so I'd prefer to continue having a choice. That's all. I even said that my opinions about KDE were just that, opinions. I wasn't implying that KDE sucked or should be tossed, far from it.
Plus, just because I don't like KDE doesn't mean that I don't like any KDE apps. Of course I'd prefer that they were Gnome apps, but again, just IMO ; )
Seriously, what I would love to see is better integration of Gnome / KDE menus. I'd really like KDE apps that I install to install a launcher in my Gnome menus and vice versa. Loki is doing this with all their games now. The only apps that'd I'd like kept separate as far as menus go are the default utilities and such that come with each desktop.
Also, just look how the competition between KDE and Gnome is driving them to work harder, I think it's great.
That's not what I said. My point was that one was a copy, and one was an original design.
I suppose all the Gnome developers, and all the Gnome users are all just silly people then? They made a GRAPHICAL USER INTERFACE look nicer than the competition's, how silly of them.
And I'll try and learn to write ; )
You didn't read my whole post, I talked about the theming support in KDE. I think it's a pretty lame attempt at theming, GTK does a hell of a much better job.
But, just IMO. To each his own. I like having choices, choices are good.
KDE is plain and simple, the most disgusting user interface experience one could ever have. It is a direct copy of the win9x interface, except it falls way short. The look feel is modeled exactly after win9x, which in itself leaves much to be desired, but QT/KDE just don't get it right. Everything is just slightly off, which is incredibly irritating. The theming support QT is awful.Just compare all the GTK/GNOME themes to KDE themes, there is not comparison at all. GTK/GNOME just kills KDE when it comes to visual appeal.
GTK is the most beautiful widget set I have ever seen. It has it's own unique look and feel. The default theme looks similar to Motif, but it has a much cleaner, fresher look, and it has a feel all of it's own.
As for GNOME itself, I like it. I like the menu panels, and the very configurable edge/corner panels. The icon sets that come with GNOME are 10x better than the ugly cruft KDE comes with.
This is all IMO, and I don't mean to offend any rabid KDE users. KDE is great, I just personally hate it.
As for your opinion that Gnome should close up shop, you can cram it. Who are you to tell them what they should/shouldn't do, it's their project and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
I'll stick with having choices thank you very much, I much prefer Gnome over KDE.
The Internet is a public forum, however, my inbox is not.
Oh my, I can't believe they are making such blatantly false statements.
First off, you _CAN_ use GPLed code in proprietary commercial software. All you have to do is license it from the author of the GPLed software you want to use, that is all.
What GPLed software ALLOWS you to do that commercial software doesnt', is it allows you to use GPLed code without the author's permission at all, but if you do you have to keep your project open.
There are 2 occasions where it would be impossible to use GPLed software in a proprietary commercial product.
1. The author hates you and refuses to license the code to you.
2. The copyright on the GPLed software is held by too many people, so it would be too difficult to get an alternate license for it.
Now as for commercial software, to even look at the code to see if it would be something you might want to use you have to have some serious $$$.
Just a friggin benchmark.
It is cool though, since it beats Microsoft at the benchmark game.
It's basically worthless though, your webserver will bottleneck on a million other things before serving static html pages becomes a problem.
I'm sure others will point this out as well...
Damn, she hit you at 50mph? Damn, you are extremely lucky that you and your passenger only had minor injuries, could have been a lot worse.
i n-fucking-lala-land bitch, while at a dead stop waiting to turn left. My friend and I were out getting food at Arby's.
As far as cell phones go, I'm unsure what I think needs to be done. Personally, I feel that it should fall under reckless driving. I'm hesitant about asking for MORE laws, but correctly enforcing the ones we currently have sure would help.
Hmmm... Funny thing, about two months ago, I was riding in someone's car and we were hit, at about 50 mph, by some not-paying-attention-speeding-in-her-big-ass-suv-
His little corolla was totalled, but we both only sustained minor injuries. What a coincidence that you had such a similar experience around the same time!
That's not the first time I've almost been killed like that though. About 6 months ago I was driving to work, and some jackass on a cell phone, was just staring off into nothing, completely oblivious to his surroundings while going into a turn, crossed the center line, and comes within an inch of hitting me. We were both doing about 50 going oposite directions on a two lane road, he looked up right at the last second and swerved.
Then there's been countless times when people on cell phones swerved into my lane without looking, or just swerved because they didn't even realize they were swerving.
So yeah, people are pretty damn stupid when it comes to driving. WTF is so hard to understand about 2+ tons of metal moving at 60+ MPH being extremely dangerous and requiring ALL of your attention?
Hmmm... I tried this just the other day on my Athlon 900 / Geforce2 / 256MB ram / Kernel 2.4.5 / GCC 2.95.3 / GLibC 2.2.3 / SLD 1.2, and it was extremely slow.
Anyone know what would cause this?
I was using SDL for the output.
and why does an app (such as Eurora) crashing bring down the whole system, or require a reboot to get things working correctly again.
Any app that doesn't directly access hardware should not be able to do that.
Seems like crappy memory management to me, but I'm not a windows programmer so I dunno.
I'm not trying to disagree with you, I'm just curious why this is the case with windows.
Don't you know anything about Scientology? Scientology doesn't tell people their side of the story, they do everything they can to promote their cult, even when they have to kill people which they have done more than once.
And that doesn't have a fucking thing to do with anything anyway, as my example was showing how M$ smart tags will allow powerful people with money to control the content of people who appose them.
I'm talking about leveling the playing field, not giving myself more control.
Christ, I didn't say that I wanted to put my own smart tags on Scientology sites...
It won't let them "breat out onto other pages" really, they'll still be confined to another Online Content Provider.
All this will do is allow Microsoft to start monopolizing the web now...
This is wrong, just plain wrong. Not because of copyright, not because of unfair competition, but because it gives someone else control of content I created(but not in a copyright sense).
What I mean is, let's say I make a website dedicated to exposing Scientology for what it really is, a sick twisted cult that extorts money from people.
Now, with Microsoft smart tags, if someone visits my site there will possibly be links to pro-scientology articles. What's really scary is that Microsoft actually does have an affiliation with some Scientology-owned companies.
This is the ultimate example of Microsoft's "Embrace and Extend" strategy, using their web browser monopoly to create a monopoly on, well, the web as we know it.
"as it will allow millions to finally venture out into the web as a whole"
I stopped reading right here. Venture out into the web? WTF? Don't you mean "venture out into MSN and other Microsoft affiliated sites"?
Maybe it's just late or something, but when I looked at that it made me really disoriented. It must have been something about how I had my browser windows layed out, and I saw the same thing in the screenshot as what was on my screen.
I need more sleep...
If they are going to lose their account for spamming, then they were in violation of their agreement with their ISP, which is THEIR FUCKING PROBLEM.
Now, if they weren't in violation of their agreement with their ISP, then it's THEIR responsibility to sue their ISP for the damage caused to them.
Just because there are possible cases where the ISP could be at fault for the spammer not having a valid email address, does not free the spammer of the responsibility to have a valid email address.
THIS IS HOW ALL BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED IRL.
Well, not really, but it was damn funny.
I wish I had moderation points right now, I'd mod that up.
That seems to be MS' reasoning when they talk about themselves, it's like they're all crazy and delusional. Of course, the truth is that they are just lying out their asses all the time...
Actually, there is a HUGE difference in the two examples you gave.
While bombs can literally kill thousands of people and are a direct threat to the citizens of this country, copyright control circumvention is only an extremely minor threat to a monstrous international corporation, which in the end will probably not even affect it's bottom line in a visible way.
Therefore, the real intent of the DMCA is to allow certain corporations to gain ever increasing control of IP and create a permanent government granted monopoly on all sorts things, from music, movies, to software and anything else that isn't a physical object.
Obviously, the DMCA is a direct result of corporate corruption in our government, to say otherwise is ridiculous.
I just made a donation in the amount of $75.00. I would have donated a whole lot more for this cause, but I've been spending WAY too much lately and money is tight now.
Somehow this makes me feel like my existence is validated when I donate cash that I earned to such a good cause. This isn't like most charity donations where you don't have any clue what is done with your money, such as donating to your local police. Don't we already pay taxes for that? Somehow I feel that they squander all that money.
Please, everyone, if you can afford it(or not), please donate something to the EFF. Remember, they do not run on a high budget, so every bit you donate is a big help, for real. This is a REAL cause and it is worth it.
Let's do what we can to take this country back.
That's not really good for Mozilla. Mozilla needs a big company to support it in order to get some serious market penetration. I still have hopes that AOL will eventually embed Mozilla directly into AOL.
What else can be done to gain some marketshare? IE ships with almost every computer sold world round, how do you compete with that?
If Mozilla only gains marketshare in *nix, that won't really help us at all. We need some marketshare in Windows for Mozilla to become a viable browser. If we don't get that, the web is doomed to become "Windows Only".
Sure, you may have the docs from MSDN so you really don't need to be able to see how everything works, but if something isn't working quite right, then you are SOL. You won't be able to help yourself because you can't see how it works, and you're not going to get help from MS unless you have billions in the bank.
Come on crackheads, read the damn article, it's not that long. The LUG people were handing out CD at the showroom entrance, no one's "turf".
Of course there were people hanging out greeting people there and all, but Microsoft complained that they were handing out CD, which is just bullshit, every expo I've ever been to people were handing me free shit as I walked in.
This was simply Microsoft not wanting any attention to be distracted away from them, so they open their big mouths and bith and whine and get their way.
Do you think Microsoft doesn't hand out shit at these things? Of course they do, it's just not "free software".